Re: Young's Black Hat 2013 talk - was mainframe tribute song

2015-01-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 05ea01d02ddc$927328a0$b75979e0$@mcn.org, on 01/11/2015 at 12:24 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: Logica was a professional service bureau with a professionally-maintained z/OS. FSVO, They got breached. How? One might infer that other MVS sites, and not just those with lax

Re: Young's Black Hat 2013 talk - was mainframe tribute song

2015-01-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 050701d02c6d$4c43bef0$e4cb3cd0$@mcn.org, on 01/09/2015 at 04:35 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: A stitch in time saves nine. Whoosh! Let me rephrase that in simple terms. Have there been any successful cracking attempts in the wild against real, present-day mainframes that

Re: Young's Black Hat 2013 talk - was mainframe tribute song

2015-01-11 Thread Charles Mills
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Young's Black Hat 2013 talk - was mainframe tribute song In 050701d02c6d$4c43bef0$e4cb3cd0$@mcn.org, on 01/09/2015 at 04:35 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: A stitch in time saves nine. Whoosh! Let me rephrase that in simple terms. Have there been any

Re: Young's Black Hat 2013 talk - was mainframe tribute song

2015-01-11 Thread Andre Massena
] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 12:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Young's Black Hat 2013 talk - was mainframe tribute song In 050701d02c6d$4c43bef0$e4cb3cd0$@mcn.org, on 01/09/2015 at 04:35 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said

Re: Young's Black Hat 2013 talk - was mainframe tribute song

2015-01-11 Thread Charles Mills
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Young's Black Hat 2013 talk - was mainframe tribute song Do I know about a violation of the statement of integrity that IBM has not addressed? No, of course not. I am not certain that MVS exposures versus lax security is a black and white dichotomy. It's easy

Re: Young's Black Hat 2013 talk - was mainframe tribute song

2015-01-11 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
charl...@mcn.org (Charles Mills) writes: I am not certain that MVS exposures versus lax security is a black and white dichotomy. It's easy to look after the fact at any breach and say aha! You should not have done X. I don't think the role of we security practitioners is solely pointing out

Re: Young's Black Hat 2013 talk - was mainframe tribute song

2015-01-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 54aae54e.7060...@acm.org, on 01/05/2015 at 01:26 PM, Joel Ewing jcew...@acm.org said: But, the password encoding in the RACF data base only becomes a security issue if READ access to the RACF data base itself is not properly restricted by RACF. The ironic thing is that while I have never

Re: Young's Black Hat 2013 talk - was mainframe tribute song

2015-01-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 047801d0291f$5efb31f0$1cf195d0$@mcn.org, on 01/05/2015 at 11:39 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: The fact is there have been several successful real hacks of production mainframes, so some sort of real, present-day hacker exposure is not unheard-of in the wild. The Devil is in the

Re: mainframe tribute song

2015-01-05 Thread Pedro Vera
I had not heard (and do not fully believe) that the hashed password data set is generally readable (UACC=READ?). It is not clear what data set you are referring to. I believe the hashed password is stored in SYS1.RACF, which should be UACC=NONE. I suppose I should watch the video.

Re: Young's Black Hat 2013 talk - was mainframe tribute song

2015-01-05 Thread Joel Ewing
On 01/03/2015 09:23 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 10:13:21 -0600, Ed Gould wrote: Indeed it was at least interesting. I would be curious if IBM would like to comment on some of the statements on how how RACF encrypts the passwords. I disagree with how RACF encryption is done

Re: Young's Black Hat 2013 talk - was mainframe tribute song

2015-01-05 Thread Charles Mills
, with disastrous results. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Joel Ewing Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 11:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Young's Black Hat 2013 talk - was mainframe tribute song On 01/03/2015 09

Re: mainframe tribute song

2015-01-03 Thread Ed Gould
://youtu.be/uL65zWrofvk Anyway, it's about his efforts to do z/OS hacking. Thanks, Mark Regan, USNR-Ret, 1969-1991 - Original Message - From: Pedro Vera pe...@us.ibm.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Cc: Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 12:35 PM Subject: mainframe tribute song Earlier

Re: mainframe tribute song

2015-01-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 10:13:21 -0600, Ed Gould wrote: Indeed it was at least interesting. I would be curious if IBM would like to comment on some of the statements on how how RACF encrypts the passwords. I disagree with how RACF encryption is done (at least by the commentator)but I am not RACF

Re: mainframe tribute song

2015-01-02 Thread Mark Regan
/OS hacking. Thanks, Mark Regan, USNR-Ret, 1969-1991 - Original Message - From: Pedro Vera pe...@us.ibm.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Cc: Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 12:35 PM Subject: mainframe tribute song Earlier this year, they had a talent show at work. I foolishly

Re: mainframe tribute song

2015-01-02 Thread Charles Mills
: mainframe tribute song Great song. While watching the video, I noticed that YouTube listed another video to watch: Black Hat 2013 - Mainframes: The Past Will Come to Haunt You, by a Philip Young and it's about an hour long. It's available at: http://youtu.be/uL65zWrofvk Anyway, it's

mainframe tribute song

2015-01-02 Thread Pedro Vera
Earlier this year, they had a talent show at work. I foolishly volunteered to sing. Please enjoy my mainframe tribute song! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ__nvHJGLA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: mainframe tribute song

2015-01-02 Thread Sam Siegel
Brilliant. Thanks for sending it out. On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Pedro Vera pe...@us.ibm.com wrote: Earlier this year, they had a talent show at work. I foolishly volunteered to sing. Please enjoy my mainframe tribute song! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ__nvHJGLA

Re: mainframe tribute song

2015-01-02 Thread Tom Brennan
Nice - I like the powerpoint with the 0C4. Only 105 views? Something must be wrong with the youtube counter. Pedro Vera wrote: Earlier this year, they had a talent show at work. I foolishly volunteered to sing. Please enjoy my mainframe tribute song! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v

Re: mainframe tribute song

2015-01-02 Thread Ed Finnell
http://www.mxg.com/thebuttonman/boney.asp In a message dated 1/2/2015 11:54:31 A.M. Central Standard Time, s...@pscsi.net writes: Brilliant. Thanks for sending it out. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: mainframe tribute song

2015-01-02 Thread Sam Siegel
Thanks! On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Ed Finnell 000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote: http://www.mxg.com/thebuttonman/boney.asp In a message dated 1/2/2015 11:54:31 A.M. Central Standard Time, s...@pscsi.net writes: Brilliant. Thanks for sending it out.

Re: mainframe tribute song

2015-01-02 Thread Ed Finnell
File 33 on cbttape.org is JES2 song book. In a message dated 1/2/2015 4:21:18 P.M. Central Standard Time, s...@pscsi.net writes: Thanks! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: mainframe tribute song

2015-01-02 Thread Charles Mills
tribute song Philip Young is http://soldieroffortran.org/ and http://mainframed767.tumblr.com/. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN