Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 8592377061499272.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 01/22/2014 at 05:33 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: I try to double check my facts The relevant fact was that I overlooked something[1]. You assumed that it was deliberate; nothing remotely like checking your facts.

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 06:30:43 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: The relevant fact was that I overlooked something[1]. You assumed that it was deliberate; nothing remotely like checking your facts. [1] Well, that plus misleading text in the manual. Cite. I saw only an apparent excerpt with

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4955235761654675.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 01/21/2014 at 12:09 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: And your (mis)interpretation to be disingenuous rather than misinformed. Then I consider you ro be a fool and a hypocrite. Presumably you have never overlooked an

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 09:39:14 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: on 01/21/2014 at 12:09 AM, Paul Gilmartin said: And your (mis)interpretation to be disingenuous rather than misinformed. Then I consider you ro be a fool and a hypocrite. Presumably you have never overlooked an individual

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-21 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
I'm trying to use pax to write to a ddname. I'm doing this from a REXX exec that's running in batch under IKJEFT01. I'm not getting it to work. Various replies by Elardus, John, Jon, Kirk, Leonardo, Lloyd, Paul, Scott and Shmuel Thanks all for the comments and ideas. I'm trying out a couple

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 02:21:11 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: on 01/17/2014 at 08:59 AM, John McKown said: paxRC=bpxwunix(wCMD,,DD:PAX,stderr.) That provides a DD for stdout; the OP needs a dd for stdin: paxRC=bpxwunix(wCMD,DD:PAX,STDOUT.,STDERR.) I agree with John, rather the

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 0158509868278815.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 01/20/2014 at 11:17 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: I agree with John, rather the Shmuel. In the OP's command (which Shmuel trimmed), it appears that he was trying to write a pax archive, not extract one. The

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:09:50 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: on 01/20/2014 at 11:17 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: I agree with John, rather [than] Shmuel. In the OP's command (which Shmuel trimmed), it appears that he was trying to write a pax archive, not extract one.

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 9f187145e7dd6e4398287ff781d211350a308...@046-ch1mpn1-042.046d.mgd.msft.net, on 01/17/2014 at 01:12 PM, van der Grijn, Bart (B) bvandergr...@dow.com said: I can't figure out how to override this setting for my IKJEFT01 step. What happens if your REXX code sets _BPX_SHAREAS using the

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In caajsdjhom97scaffzr_jbb6rokt-yo9+wst3-dxgkca5+cj...@mail.gmail.com, on 01/17/2014 at 08:59 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said: paxRC=bpxwunix(wCMD,,DD:PAX,stderr.) That provides a DD for stdout; the OP needs a dd for stdin: paxRC=bpxwunix(wCMD,DD:PAX,STDOUT.,STDERR.) --

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1389977617.39838.yahoomail...@web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com, on 01/17/2014 at 08:53 AM, Lloyd Fuller leful...@sbcglobal.net said: Look at your DSName.  It is not a valid MVS dataset name:  What gives you that idea? too many characters without a period. No; look at the trace he gives in a

pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-17 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
I'm trying to use pax to write to a ddname. I'm doing this from a REXX exec that's running in batch under IKJEFT01. I'm not getting it to work. The following code: ... wCMD = pax -w -X -z -x pax -f //DD:PAX aDir ALLOC DD(PAX) DSN('aBackupDsn') OLD release paxRC = bpxwunix(wCMD,,stdout.,stderr.)

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-17 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
code RELEASE or write to tape. Thanks, Bart -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 9:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS van der

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-17 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:12 AM, van der Grijn, Bart (B) bvandergr...@dow.com wrote: I'm trying to use pax to write to a ddname. I'm doing this from a REXX exec that's running in batch under IKJEFT01. I'm not getting it to work. The following code: ... wCMD = pax -w -X -z -x pax -f

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-17 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
van der Grijn, Bart (B) wrote: Thanks Elardus, You're welcome! :-) z/OS in question is z/OS 1.12 Ok. Should have clarified this in my original note, but I'm not trying to write to a 'unix' file, I'm trying to write to a MVS dataset allocated to a DDName. Using a dataset name in the pax

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-17 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
John, I think you can make a single change to your REXX program paxRC=bpxwunix(wCMD,,DD:PAX,stderr.) I tried that. In my original note: (I also tried it by specifying a ddname in the bpxwunix call instead of the stdout., but got a truncation error. I suspect that's because it exceeded

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-17 Thread Jon Perryman
Have you tried running PGM=BPXBATCH instead and run the exec as a UNIX script? You would need to place the exec in a UNIX file and change ALLOC to BPXWDYN. As for the truncation error, have you tried changing the dataset's attributes (LRECL, BLKSIZE and RECFM)? Jon Perryman.

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-17 Thread Kirk Wolf
Bart, It isn't clear whether you needed to do this with a TMP and REXX or whether you were just trying to work around the normal issues with BPXBATCH. This is very straight forward to do using our COZBATCH utility: //SHELL EXEC PGM=COZBATCH - a better BPXBATCH //STDIN DD * pax -w -X -x pax -v

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-17 Thread Leonardo Vaz
: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS I'm trying to use pax to write to a ddname. I'm doing this from a REXX exec that's running in batch under IKJEFT01. I'm not getting it to work. The following code: ... wCMD = pax -w -X -z -x pax -f //DD:PAX aDir ALLOC DD(PAX) DSN('aBackupDsn') OLD release paxRC

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-17 Thread Lloyd Fuller
Look at your DSName.  It is not a valid MVS dataset name:  too many characters without a period. Lloyd From: Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 9:59 AM Subject: Re: pax, ddnames

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 13:12:09 +, van der Grijn, Bart (B) wrote: I'm trying to use pax to write to a ddname. The following code: ... wCMD = pax -w -X -z -x pax -f //DD:PAX aDir I don't believe any such construct is supported. Have you seen any documentation that states that it is. Submit a

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-17 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
: Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS Have you tried running PGM=BPXBATCH instead and run the exec as a UNIX script? You would need to place the exec in a UNIX file and change ALLOC to BPXWDYN. As for the truncation error, have you tried changing the dataset's attributes (LRECL, BLKSIZE and RECFM

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-17 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS Bart, It isn't clear whether you needed to do this with a TMP and REXX or whether you were just trying to work around the normal issues with BPXBATCH. This is very straight forward to do using our COZBATCH utility: //SHELL EXEC

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-17 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
Fuller Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 11:54 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS Look at your DSName.  It is not a valid MVS dataset name:  too many characters without a period. Lloyd

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2014-01-17 07:43, van der Grijn, Bart (B) wrote: z/OS in question is z/OS 1.12 Should have clarified this in my original note, but I'm not trying to write to a 'unix' file, I'm trying to write to a MVS dataset allocated to a DDName. Using a dataset name in the pax command works fine,

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-17 Thread Lloyd Fuller
without problem (except syntax issues getting the quotes and double quotes correct). Lloyd From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 2:41 PM Subject: Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS On 2014-01-17

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-17 Thread Kirk Wolf
oh Gil, You know very well that the Command Reference documents only that pax supports MVS data set names and does not mention that DD:XXX names are supported. You have said this many times before, and I agree that IBM should formally support this. Have you opened a requirement? Surely they

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-17 Thread Jon Perryman
MVS archive datasets are supported by the PAX command. The first paragraph of the MAN PAX page says the archive can be HFS file or MVS dataset. I only have access to the EFGLOBE.COM system so it may now say something different but along the same lines. Jon Perryman

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 14:01:34 -0800, Jon Perryman wrote: MVS archive datasets are supported by the PAX command. The first paragraph of the MAN PAX page says the archive can be HFS file or MVS dataset. I only have access to the EFGLOBE.COM system so it may now say something different but along

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-17 Thread Scott Ford
This has been asked before,here On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 16:34:41 +0100, Miklos Szigetvari Post by Miklos Szigetvari Hi We have a number of user ZFS datasets, in NON EXTENDED format , and already has reached the 4Gbyte limit Till now we have allocated a new extended format ZFS and copied into it