Re: z/OS under Linux ?

2017-02-14 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
sipp...@sg.ibm.com (Timothy Sipples) writes: > Uh huh. And so can z/VM, and so can KVM for IBM z Systems and > LinuxONE. Moreover, I would argue that Concurrent Processor Drawer > Add and Concurrent Processor Drawer Repair/Replace are extremely > sophisticated instances of live system movement wit

Re: z/OS under Linux ?

2017-02-14 Thread Timothy Sipples
David Crayford wrote: >I was blown away when I was first saw Hyper-V live >migration. It can literally move a running system >to another server! VMWare has similar features. Uh huh. And so can z/VM, and so can KVM for IBM z Systems and LinuxONE. Moreover, I would argue that Concurrent Processor D

Re: z/OS under Linux ?

2017-02-14 Thread David Crayford
On 14/02/2017 2:51 AM, Allan Staller wrote: Intel/AMD folks consistently over-estimate the capabilities of their platforms. I used to think that too but now I'm convinced the opposite is true. Mainframe folks underestimate the capabilities of x86. I was blown away when I was first saw Hyper-V

Re: z/OS under Linux ?

2017-02-13 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Carmen Vitullo wrote: > Agree 1000% :) - been thru a couple disastrous MF to Emulated MF platforms > that tout the can preform as well or better than any Z enterprise system at > 1/3 the cost. > these other solutions providers are still stuck with 1980's technolog

Re: z/OS under Linux ?

2017-02-13 Thread Carmen Vitullo
U Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 12:51:28 PM Subject: Re: z/OS under Linux ? I have heard too many oops! Stories for my comfort around people like this (just ask John McK). Make *DAMN SURE* you get iron-clad performance and SLA guarantees before letting them do any *REAL* work. e.g. *all progr

Re: z/OS under Linux ?

2017-02-13 Thread Allan Staller
Intel/AMD folks consistently over-estimate the capabilities of their platforms. As I stated in my previous reply, Get ironclad SLA and performance guarantees. i.e. they *PAY YOU* of guarantees are not met. Other questions. Who(m) takes over development? Maintenance(?) application conversion mana

Re: z/OS under Linux ?

2017-02-13 Thread Allan Staller
f Joe Ellis Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 12:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: z/OS under Linux ? anyone tried or have experience with this ? <http://www.tmaxsoft.com/us_en/openframe_us_en/> -- For IBM-MAI

Re: z/OS under Linux ?

2017-02-13 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 2/13/2017 at 01:26 PM, Joe Ellis wrote: > anyone tried or have experience with this ? > > You had me worried there for a minute. I was afraid someone was claiming you could actually run z/OS as a virtual machine on Linux. Application re

z/OS under Linux ?

2017-02-13 Thread Joe Ellis
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