On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 21:52:07 -0400, John Gilmore wrote:
Qua sysprog, I am sure thjat you are aware that PDSEs are problematic
early in an IPL process; but none of these problems obtains for COBOL
APs.
Very late to this, so sorry if my concerns have been answered earlier.
What about shops with a
In
0539133098161601.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu,
on 09/05/2013
at 03:31 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za
said:
You can wish, but big blue wants backward compatibility,
How is that an obstacle? If they do it, I'm sure that there will be a
switch to
In 5227bf91.7010...@aim.com, on 09/04/2013
at 05:17 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
On 1 September 2013 00:51, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
LE gave me WAD with a rationale so outrageous that I gave up in
disgust, making no effort to escalate.
An outrageous rationale is precisely
In p06240805ce4d9305cf4f@[192.168.1.11], on 09/04/2013
at 09:55 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg hal9...@panix.com said:
Except for one MAJOR difference - PASS will leave the tape mounted
(although it might rewind it) while KEEP will unload the tape
Not if you specify RETAIN. Unfortunately, there's
In
2091430682-1378385115-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-518132742-@b4.c1.bise6.blackberry,
on 09/05/2013
at 12:45 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca said:
Who are you to determine the needs of the user (whom you are
[supposedly] supporting).
There's only one user at your shop? Or
In 522b1cbc.1070...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 09/07/2013
at 02:31 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said:
Sometimes you know (or at least you feel) that your system is not
bullteproof. In such case you could do the following: a) make your
system bullteproof. WRONG. Usually you would
In 3044928827063159.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
09/05/2013
at 08:30 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Wouldn't it be nice to be able not to ABEND, but to checkpoint the
job when it reaches the limlt and allow the user to insert more
coins and continue?
Submit a
In 011401ceaa8d$7b6acab0$72406010$@mcn.org, on 09/05/2013
at 04:13 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
EST5EDT
Due to parsing ambiguity, that doesn't tell you when to switch.
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ISO position; see
In 0810432924290538.wa.dbohnaegonusa@listserv.ua.edu, on
09/06/2013
at 08:16 AM, Bohn, Dale db...@aegonusa.com said:
The non-loaded class are only supported in the PM3(?) load modules
which the binder will only put into a PDSE.
Don't confuse load modules with program objects. The BINDER
In
4ee2851a2279b94cb70cd69b17410609ae51c...@s1flokydce2kx01.dm0001.info53.com,
on 09/06/2013
at 12:01 PM, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com said:
A program object is a new style GOOF executable that is the output
from the binder when binding an object module from Enterprise
COBOL V5.1.
No.
In vnetibm.20130907162208.9...@bldgate.vnet.ibm.com, on 09/07/2013
at 09:22 AM, Tom Ross tmr...@stlvm20.vnet.ibm.com said:
No, the COBOL Migration Guide is correct, all COBOL programs
produce GOFF output with COBOL V5, so after Binding you will have
a program object and it must reside in a
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:
In 011401ceaa8d$7b6acab0$72406010$@mcn.org, on 09/05/2013
at 04:13 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
EST5EDT
Due to parsing ambiguity, that doesn't tell you when to switch.
--
Shmuel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tz_database does tell you when to switch.
And when to add or subtract leap seconds.
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:
In 011401ceaa8d$7b6acab0$72406010$@mcn.org, on 09/05/2013
at 04:13 PM, Charles Mills
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tz_database Does tell you the offset,
when to switch.
And when to add or subtract leap seconds.
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Shane's surmise that the PDSE requirement for COBOL 5.1 executables
will slow its adoption in many shops is certainly correct. All such
requirements do so.
Where Shane and I differ, and I suspect that this difference is
visceral, is that I am radically impatient with the conservatism of
these
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
You can wish, but big blue wants backward compatibility,
How is that an obstacle? If they do it, I'm sure that there will be a switch
to enable the new algorithm and that, once enabled, the new algorithm will
only be used incrementally.
Agreed, Shmuel. Thanks
On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 08:04:35 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tz_database Does tell you the offset,
when to switch.
And when to add or subtract leap seconds.
z/OS is the only OS of which I know that accommodates leap
seconds in its hardware clock (are there others?)
I
WOW. How did it use drum as main memmory? Did it have like 1K of real memory
and have hardware to move from drum upon address resolution? Or is drum a
similar architecture to ram?
Jon Perryman.
From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net
On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 09:58:29 -0700, Jon Perryman wrote:
WOW. How did it use drum as main memmory? Did it have like 1K of real memory
and have hardware to move from drum upon address resolution? Or is drum a
similar architecture to ram?
Nope. None of the above. The drum was real. From:
Also consider WPS as a SAS alternative which is MXG-certified.
http://www.teamwpc.co.uk/products/wps
Scott Barry
SBBWorks, Inc.
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So I guess you guys haven't worked on Wall Street, three + firewalls in and out
of an environment. Complex firewall rules, RACF or ACF2 or Top-Secret rules.
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
from my IPAD
'Infinite wisdom through infinite means'
On Sep 7, 2013, at 8:58 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour
Nothing is per se bulletproof, system wise IMHO . It's the same as 100% uptime.
You can hit about 99%, been there using Fiber Options ,Sonet Rings, but the
last 1 % is difficult if not impossible without a lot of cash
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
from my IPAD
'Infinite wisdom through
W dniu 2013-09-08 20:46, Scott Ford pisze:
So I guess you guys haven't worked on Wall Street, three + firewalls in and out
of an environment. Complex firewall rules, RACF or ACF2 or Top-Secret rules.
...and your point is?
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Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland
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Tre tej wiadomoci moe
You can secure the environment one is responsible for with correct knowledge
and funding
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
from my IPAD
'Infinite wisdom through infinite means'
On Sep 8, 2013, at 3:22 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote:
W dniu 2013-09-08 20:46, Scott Ford pisze:
W dniu 2013-09-08 21:34, Scott Ford pisze:
You can secure the environment one is responsible for with correct knowledge
and funding
...unless the environment you have is insecure by design and cannot be
secured despite of budget used.
You can make the strongbox (safe) insecure by stupid
I'm not sure I understand Paul's last post.
z/OS does keep the current leap-second count at hand. This value
changes at most twice a year, at the end of June and at the end of
December; and ample advance notice, at least six months' notice under
BIPM's rules, is given of an impending increment
R.S.
Agreed ...but security is difficult nowdays with hackers on the 'Net' ...
The problem when I worked on Wall Street was the time to implement changes
Too too long because of security, it's like traveling nowdays by Air..
Security has to have a better solution we deal with AES128 encryption
On 6 Sep 2013 08:22:58 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
Hello
We have a job in which the input file that is comming has one on the field
(Location Number) is defined as X(4). This file is comming from a different
system.
Now here in our programs we are modifying the this field to 5
In 1378659509.50854.yahoomail...@web181006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com, on
09/08/2013
at 09:58 AM, Jon Perryman jperr...@pacbell.net said:
WOW. How did it use drum as main memmory?
Same way as any other drum computer.
Did it have like 1K of real memory
A drum *is* real memory. In this case, 2K 10
In
cajtoo5-bqbx01z2xwzf_z0eoc5nzua+5pxat6rep1oazzwc...@mail.gmail.com,
on 09/08/2013
at 08:02 AM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tz_database does tell you when to
switch.
The Devil is in the details. The string EST5EDT doesn't have enough
information to
There are two issues here that need to be disentangled.
Storage representations of packed-decimal values always contain an odd
number of digits, viz., one of 1, 3, 5, . . . , 2i - 1, . . . , 31 for
i - 1, 2, 3, . . . , 16.
If now in COBOL you declare a number of digits d for a computational-3
On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 16:22:53 -0400, John Gilmore wrote:
I'm not sure I understand Paul's last post.
z/OS does keep the current leap-second count at hand. This value
changes at most twice a year, at the end of June and at the end of
December; and ample advance notice, at least six months' notice
CVTPCCAT-PCCAVT-PCCA-PSA
If you are not serialized properly, any reference to the PCCA can blow up
as the PCCA may be freed if the processor is taken offline.
If you are referencing your PSA, PCCA-PSA is incorrect (hint: look up
reverse prefixing).
Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design
Do I need to hold any locks ?
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 8, 2013, at 9:35 PM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com wrote:
CVTPCCAT-PCCAVT-PCCA-PSA
If you are not serialized properly, any reference to the PCCA can blow up
as the PCCA may be freed if the processor is taken offline.
If you are
No matter how much knowledge and money you have available, you can't be 100%
secure (we still have APF). You can only secure known exposures as well as the
technologie permits and reduce area's of risk. While z/OS can be extremely
secure, you don't review IBM's code for exposures. How about
Data area's says that serialization is disablement. Does this mean you need to
run disabled or lock the CPU associated with the PCCA in question?
Jon Perryman.
From: Micheal Butz michealb...@optonline.net
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Sent: Sunday, September
Hi everyone,
Today, the mainframe staff in any enterprise work on PC running special
software(the terminal emulator) to connect to the *mainframe server* over
the company intranet. But, back in the 1960's, when mainframes were young,
what were some of input devices? Has anyone typed TSO or
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