Re: EXSPATxx member

2015-04-07 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Mon, 6 Apr 2015 03:48:07 -0400, Jim Mulder wrote: There is no way to specify endless spinning. No doubt a good thing. I do recall once placing a CPU in a hard stop - caused all the other CPUs to go into spin loops. Back in the days of running on the bare metal. Fortunately I had the

Re: AMATERSE and PDSE ?

2015-04-07 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 03:59:30 -0500, Juergen Kehr wrote: Hello, I'm a little bit confused about the the topic named in the subject of this thread. We're using z/OS V1.13 and I successfully tersed/untersed several PDSE datasets, but now I get a RC=40 during UNTERSE of a PDSE (Load) LIBRARY. In

AMATERSE and PDSE ?

2015-04-07 Thread Juergen Kehr
Hello, I'm a little bit confused about the the topic named in the subject of this thread. We're using z/OS V1.13 and I successfully tersed/untersed several PDSE datasets, but now I get a RC=40 during UNTERSE of a PDSE (Load) LIBRARY. In various documentation I found statements that PDSE is

Re: AMATERSE and PDSE ?

2015-04-07 Thread Lizette Koehler
What error message are you getting? Can you post the error? Could you post the message from the TERSE process? Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Juergen Kehr Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 2:00 AM To:

Re: Secure FTP

2015-04-07 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Richards, Robert B. wrote: Norbert's suggestions worked. Great! Which one worked for you? Or did you need both of them? (Norbert wrote about: FWFRIENDLY TRUE and/or EPSV4 TRUE) Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht --

Re: Secure FTP

2015-04-07 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Norbert's suggestions worked. Thanks to Kurt and Norbert!! :-) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Kurt Quackenbush Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 9:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Secure FTP snip GET

Re: Backup of Uncatalogued dataset

2015-04-07 Thread Burrell, C. Todd (CDC/OCOO/OCIO/ITSO) (CTR)
Couldn't you just do a DFDSS dump and select the uncatalogued file and point the dump to the volume where the uncatalogued dataset resides? Something like this (add your own jobcard): //DUMPDSN EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=8M,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*

Backup of Uncatalogued dataset

2015-04-07 Thread Jake Anderson
Hello, I am looking for a sample JCL on backing up the uncatalogued dataset alone. Is there anyone who have a working JCL ? Jake -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Backup of Uncatalogued dataset

2015-04-07 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Jake Anderson wrote: I am looking for a sample JCL ... Do you have access to DFDSS manuals? There are good sample JCLs there. ... on backing up the uncatalogued dataset alone. Do you mean you only want to backup Non-SMS datasets including PS, PDS, etc? Is there anyone who have a working JCL ?

Re: A New Performance Model ?

2015-04-07 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Farley, Peter wrote: Though your [Timothy] points are well spoken and reasoned, you still did not address the basic organizational issue the OP is facing Agreed 100%. As far as I see, the OP is sitting somewhere very uncomfortable and wishing for a quick relief. I agree there may be a

Re: AMATERSE and PDSE ?

2015-04-07 Thread Tony Harminc
On 7 April 2015 at 05:29, Norbert Friemel nf.ibmm...@web.de wrote: On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 03:59:30 -0500, Juergen Kehr wrote: [...] Is there any special condidition for PDSE (Load) Libraries (RECFM=U) compared to other PDSE libraries (RECFM=FB or VB)?

Re: AMATERSE and PDSE ? (and IEBCOPY and SMP/E)

2015-04-07 Thread Scott Ford
I used Transmit on a PDSE, downloaded it as binary, reap loaded ad binary , TSO received it, everything fine. This was z/OS 1.13 Scott On Tuesday, April 7, 2015, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote: On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 04:29:15 -0500, Norbert Friemel wrote:

Re: CP to a fixed length output file

2015-04-07 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Dana, Use TRAILINGBLANKS TRUE parm as explained here http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/f1a1b4b1/18.154? Thanks, Kolusu IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU wrote on 04/07/2015 09:32:42 AM: From: Dana Mitchell mitchd...@gmail.com To:

Re: A New Performance Model ?

2015-04-07 Thread Scott Ford
Elardus, Agree you 100%. Maybe they need a second pair of eyes to review the design. I know I do and I will bet other software designers and system programmers do. A second pair of eyes is like a Dr.'s second option.. Like you mentioned something was missed and the easy out was a mainframe

Re: AMATERSE and PDSE ? (and IEBCOPY and SMP/E)

2015-04-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 04:29:15 -0500, Norbert Friemel wrote: On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 03:59:30 -0500, Juergen Kehr wrote: ... I get a RC=40 during UNTERSE of a PDSE (Load) LIBRARY. ... http://publibfp.dhe.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr/BOOKS/iea2v1c2/17.4.1 Partitioned data sets extended (PDSE) containing

CP to a fixed length output file

2015-04-07 Thread Dana Mitchell
I'm working with developers to convert FTP jobs to use secure FTP. The first step is to cp the MVS dataset to a USS directory so sftp can transfer it. They noticed when transferring an FB 80 file that trailing blanks have been stripped off. Is there some combination of cp options that would

Re: AMATERSE and PDSE ?

2015-04-07 Thread Scott Ford
I agree with Lizette can you provide us a snippet of the error and JCL ...? Pls On Tuesday, April 7, 2015, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: What error message are you getting? Can you post the error? Could you post the message from the TERSE process? Lizette -Original

Re: Backup of Uncatalogued dataset

2015-04-07 Thread retired mainframer
What tool are you using for normal backup and recovery? Doesn't this tool handle uncatalogued datasets? Do you want the backup version to be part of your backup and recovery system or are you looking to have a recovery method independent of your normal system? If so, why? You implied there

Re: Backup of Uncatalogued dataset

2015-04-07 Thread Jake Anderson
We use FDR and I was trying to backup a PDSE. On 7 Apr 2015 21:58, retired mainframer retired-mainfra...@q.com wrote: What tool are you using for normal backup and recovery? Doesn't this tool handle uncatalogued datasets? Do you want the backup version to be part of your backup and recovery

Re: A New Performance Model ?

2015-04-07 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
idfzos...@gmail.com (Scott Ford) writes: Agree you 100%. Maybe they need a second pair of eyes to review the design. I know I do and I will bet other software designers and system programmers do. A second pair of eyes is like a Dr.'s second option.. Like you mentioned something was missed and

Re: AMATERSE and PDSE ? (and IEBCOPY and SMP/E)

2015-04-07 Thread Tony Harminc
On 7 April 2015 at 12:22, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote: IIRC, AMATERSE has a restriction that a PDS can not be PACKed directly to a tape, but must first be PACKED to DASD (another (large) workfile), then copied to tape. I don't know IYRC, but it sounds

Re: A New Performance Model ?

2015-04-07 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I've been a perf/cap analyst since 1981, and I can unequivocally state that the original statement is specious! Upgrades are cheaper than they were, but they're still not free! And, I've been fighting against capacity based pricing sin tiers were introduced in 1984. It is still cheaper to

Re: CP to a fixed length output file

2015-04-07 Thread Gibney, David Allen,Jr
FTPS (SSL ftp) is not hard to set-up and deals with ordinary z/OS datasets just fine. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 11:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: AMATERSE and PDSE ? (and IEBCOPY and SMP/E)

2015-04-07 Thread Lizette Koehler
Messages help us to Understand what your problem is. However, This link from 2014 on www.ibm.com indicates a TSO XMIT or PDS/E UNLOAD then AMATERSE the dataset. https://www-304.ibm.com/connections/blogs/SterlingMFT/entry/how_to_terse_a_pdse_library?lang=en_us And from this link

Re: AMATERSE and PDSE ? (and IEBCOPY and SMP/E)

2015-04-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 10:13:57 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: Messages help us to Understand what your problem is. However, Agreed. Do you have Program Objects in the PDS/E you are trying to use? From what you quoted: On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 03:59:30 -0500, Juergen Kehr wrote: ... I get a

CA-Endevor

2015-04-07 Thread Nathan Pfister
A quick google search and search of the archives came up with not a whole lot...so I figured I would ask the list. Does anyone know of any good Endevor administration training that is available (format and cost do not matter, looking for any and all options at this time). If you can suggest

Re: CP to a fixed length output file

2015-04-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 09:57:15 -0700, Sri h Kolusu wrote: Use TRAILINGBLANKS TRUE parm as explained here http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/f1a1b4b1/18.154? So, I try: Remote system type is MVS. ftp TRAILINGBLANKS TRUE ?Invalid command (Well, of course; this was a Linux

Re: CP to a fixed length output file

2015-04-07 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Dana Mitchell mitchd...@gmail.com wrote: I'm working with developers to convert FTP jobs to use secure FTP. The first step is to cp the MVS dataset to a USS directory so sftp can transfer it. They noticed when transferring an FB 80 file that trailing blanks

Re: CA-Endevor

2015-04-07 Thread Bill Ashton
I second the suggestion about the communities...I have found some to be very helpful, and have avoided opening a support ticket in one or two cases. I don't know the Endevor one specifically, but it would be a good place to start. Billy On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Lizette Koehler

Re: CP to a fixed length output file

2015-04-07 Thread Bob Rutledge
On 4/7/2015 12:32 PM, Dana Mitchell wrote: I'm working with developers to convert FTP jobs to use secure FTP. The first step is to cp the MVS dataset to a USS directory so sftp can transfer it. They noticed when transferring an FB 80 file that trailing blanks have been stripped off. Is

Re: CP to a fixed length output file

2015-04-07 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Why can't you use OCOPY to copy the file instead of cp? o For an MVS data set in fixed record format: Any line longer than the record size is truncated. If the line is shorter than the

Re: AMATERSE and PDSE ?

2015-04-07 Thread Lucas Rosalen
I didn't go look ADRDSSU's manual, but here's an output of a RESTORE with RENAMEU that I've run some months ago: ADR711I (001)-NEWDS(01), DATA SET CSDOMVS.JAVA64.NACB.VZRES21.SAJV17L.ZFS HAS BEEN ALLOCATED WITH NEWNAME OMVS.JAVA64.NACB.VZRES21.SAJV17L.ZFS USING STORCLAS

Re: CA-Endevor

2015-04-07 Thread Lizette Koehler
I would contact CA for that information. There is also a COMMUNITIES on the Support.ca.com website. You could join the Endevor community and get help there as well. https://communities.ca.com/community/ca-endevor Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: AMATERSE and PDSE ?

2015-04-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 11:46:39 -0400, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net wrote: AMATERSE uses its own scheme for unloading and transmitting the PDS[E] directory, rather than doing what most such programs do which is to invoke IEBCOPY for this part of the work. ... Sigh. The simple answer is to run

Re: AMATERSE and PDSE ?

2015-04-07 Thread Tony Harminc
On 7 April 2015 at 15:52, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote: I once looked into ADRDSSU as an interchange vehicle. I stumbled on a statement in the Manual that the recipient (if renaming) must have READ access to the original DSN. This seems supremely stupid

Re: AMATERSE and PDSE ?

2015-04-07 Thread Anthony Fletcher
The documentation clearly says that AMATERSE does not support Program Objects in a PDSE but has anyone tried raising a PMR to get this caught at TERSE time rather than at UNTERSE time? regards, Anthony Fletcher - NZ MIITP Team Lead NZ SMM (AirNZ, Westpac NZ , NWM AU) IBM Strategic

Re: CP to a fixed length output file

2015-04-07 Thread Dana Mitchell
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll give OCOPY or IEBGENER a try. I originally chose cp for convenience of the developers. They are replacing ftp steps with sftp steps in their batch jobs. I wanted to keep it at 'replace STEP A' with STEP B. So with the constraints of BPXBATCH being able to

Re: Backup of Uncatalogued dataset

2015-04-07 Thread retired mainframer
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jake Anderson Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 9:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Backup of Uncatalogued dataset We use FDR and I was trying to backup a PDSE. And

Re: CP to a fixed length output file

2015-04-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2015-04-07 15:12, Dana Mitchell wrote: ... with the constraints of BPXBATCH being able to only execute one command, ... There is no such constraint. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: AMATERSE and PDSE ?

2015-04-07 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 17:26:48 -0300, Lucas Rosalen rosalen.lu...@gmail.com wrote: CSDOMVS.JAVA64.NACB.VZRES21.SAJV17L.ZFS is one of many datasets present in the dump dataset and I don't have CSDOMVS ALIAS defined to my system, and no RACF profile protecting it as well. If there's no RACF profile

Re: CP to a fixed length output file

2015-04-07 Thread Gibney, David Allen,Jr
No JCL changes needed for SSL ftps. Just some certificate work and changes to userid.FTP.DATA -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dana Mitchell Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 2:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: AMATERSE and PDSE ?

2015-04-07 Thread Lucas Rosalen
Thanks Walt. I'm glad I've used Or maybe RACF works differently when you don't have anything protecting the original dataset phrase :) Lucas Em 07/04/2015 21:07, Walt Farrell walt.farr...@gmail.com escreveu: On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 17:26:48 -0300, Lucas Rosalen rosalen.lu...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: A New Performance Model ?

2015-04-07 Thread David Mingee
I agree with Ed.  There are always cases where the effort and cost might outweigh the benefit of tuning, but there are still many cases where thereis cost savings.  As others have mentioned there is always value in meeting the business SLA's and the online files being available.  A side benefit