Re: 7-digit Job IDs

2018-07-02 Thread Jantje.
On Sat, 30 Jun 2018 06:27:59 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >A search of Google for seven-digit jobs leads to headhunter sites. > I am sure you deserve a seven-digit salary -- but are not getting it :-( Try adding site:ibm.com to your Googling. Cheers, Jantje.

Re: ICSF and millions of RSA keys

2018-07-02 Thread R.S.
Arnold, Thank you very much for your help, I appreciate it. When talking about performance I also thouth about key "life management" like new key, key change, key delete. I don't expect it would be very frequent operation, but even that in multi-milion (10-20M rather than 2-3M) key database

SHARE App - Still no St. Louis?

2018-07-02 Thread Michael Babcock
I still don’t see St. Louis in the SHARE app. Is that available yet or .? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Using JCL Symbld and TYPRUN=SCAN

2018-07-02 Thread John McKown
On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 12:12 PM Hobart Spitz wrote: > )Why don't we just skip the JCL, and write our jobs in REXX? The two > > Here, here!! Actually, there is one thing that is critical to retiring > JCL. It's a host command that allows a REXX program to list and wait for > all it's datasets

Connect:Direct and VOL=REF ?

2018-07-02 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek)
After pouring thru the connect:direct pubs and finding that REF= is support, I've not been able to find the correct syntax to do a VOL=REF=dsn within a Connect:Direct Proc on the TO parameters. Can anyone offer any suggestions/advice/direction? The documented syntax is: VOL = (

Re: Formatting (was: JCL ERROR : IGD01022I)

2018-07-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
AFAIK, I have never used KOI8-R; I can't speak to what m$ outhouse may have done behind my back. Maybe it copied the charset from the message I was responding to? Do you have human beings doing had encoding of messages? If not, then I'm obviously talking about software. Alas, while I know of

Re: REXX as JCL replacement

2018-07-02 Thread Hobart Spitz
How about something like this? Use REXX syntax and a JCL host command with JCL-like semantics: /* REXX */ arg String /* From SUBMIT or start task command. */ "jcl job myjob: (acct),'john smith',class=t,msgclass=h,notify="userid() "jcl exec pgm=myprog,parm="date("s") "jcl sysprint: dd sysout=*"

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Connect:Direct and VOL=REF ?

2018-07-02 Thread Steve Thompson
Folks: If it is documented (and I don't have time to pull down the latest doc), it will get addressed as a problem and not an RFE. The C:D change team and the dev guys know the internals of the product very well. Regards, Steve Thompson On 07/02/2018 02:26 PM, Dyck, Lionel B.

TSO TEST breakpoint subcommand call either looping or not being executed

2018-07-02 Thread Joseph Reichman
Hi I have a TSO TEST breakpoint with a call subcommand when I return to the offset of the breakpoint the program loops over and over again. When I return to the NSI the instruction where the breakpoint is doesn't get executed Thanks

Re: TSO TEST breakpoint subcommand call either looping or not being executed

2018-07-02 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 2 Jul 2018 15:37:34 -0400 Joseph Reichman wrote: :>I have a TSO TEST breakpoint with a call subcommand when I return to the :>offset of the breakpoint the program loops over and over again. When I :>return to the NSI the instruction where the breakpoint is doesn't get :>executed I do

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Connect:Direct and VOL=REF ?

2018-07-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 2 Jul 2018 15:53:02 -0400, Joe Monk wrote: >I think it is saying that the system picks the volume from the referenced >dsn, which must be cataloged (i.e. can't be a temp data set). >On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 3:49 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> > >> >

Re: REXX as JCL replacement

2018-07-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 2 Jul 2018 14:41:44 -0400, Steve Smith wrote: >There appears to be a visceral urge in some to force others to conform to >their great vision of the new and better way (ergo DST). That isn't at all >necessary ... Just do it. Yourself. > Force? Not in that case. Set your wrist watch

Re: Formatting

2018-07-02 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
My post did not come out as I expected. No flowing. I'm going to shut up. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM

SUSE splits from Microfocus

2018-07-02 Thread Rob Schramm
https://itsfoss.com/suse-eqt-acquisition/ Can anyone spell "we need cash"? Rob Schramm -- Rob Schramm -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message:

Re: SUSE splits from Microfocus

2018-07-02 Thread Charles Mills
A good deal for MicroFocus. They bought the whole dang thing of Attachmate for $1.2B. They just sold one part of that for $2.5B. Wish I was that smart. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rob Schramm Sent:

Re: Transaction jobs?

2018-07-02 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 7/2/2018 3:22 PM, Charles Mills wrote: The SSI manual makes repeated references to "transaction job IDs" and "transaction job names." What is a "transaction job" in this sense? APPC/MVS and z/OS UNIX transactions create output, but are never assigned complete JES job structures. For

Re: REXX as JCL replacement

2018-07-02 Thread CM Poncelet
D'accord - and the next 'complaint' will be about that pesky machine code and how to get rid of it. Those who find JCL challenging argue that it is not needed. As Aesop's fox said, "the grape is sour." My ha'penny. CP On 02/07/2018 19:41, Steve Smith wrote: > There appears to be a visceral urge

Re: Formatting (was: JCL ERROR : IGD01022I)

2018-07-02 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 7/2/2018 11:55 AM, Edward Finnell wrote: I looked at the archives and Senior Jaffe's post appears correctly formatted. It has plain/text and proportional font. Was this intended to be "Señor Jaffe?" Or was it a comment on my age and/or experience? ;-) -- Phoenix Software International

Transaction jobs?

2018-07-02 Thread Charles Mills
The SSI manual makes repeated references to "transaction job IDs" and "transaction job names." What is a "transaction job" in this sense? Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Formatting (was: JCL ERROR : IGD01022I)

2018-07-02 Thread Edward Finnell
Sort of an amalgamation from long ago posts. Just trying to dodge the lightning bolts. Guess it could mean senior techy too. In a message dated 7/2/2018 5:06:42 PM Central Standard Time, edja...@phoenixsoftware.com writes:   Was this intended to be "Señor Jaffe?" Or was it a comment on my age

Re: Formatting (was: JCL ERROR : IGD01022I)

2018-07-02 Thread Charles Mills
There you go using them dang Unicode characters again. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 3:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Formatting (was: JCL ERROR :

Re: TSO TEST breakpoint subcommand call either looping or not being executed

2018-07-02 Thread Joseph Reichman
Didn’t know you can put in parens to force sequence of execution > On Jul 2, 2018, at 4:31 PM, Binyamin Dissen > wrote: > > If I understand you correctly and you repetitively want this to occur, you > will need: > > AT +8 (AT +C (off +c;call ..;go);go) > > (assuming you want the

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Connect:Direct and VOL=REF ?

2018-07-02 Thread Steve Beaver
Suggestion Code the parms on a DD statement and once you have that working transfer it to the CD COPY Statement -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek) Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 10:34 AM

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Connect:Direct and VOL=REF ?

2018-07-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 2 Jul 2018 15:07:07 -0400, Joe Monk wrote: >REF allows you to place a data set on the same volume as the referenced >data set. It must be cataloged on the system where it is referenced. >

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Connect:Direct and VOL=REF ?

2018-07-02 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek)
The use of VOL=SER=xx works but that is only useful for the 1st data set being copied. I've tried variations of ,'s also without success. Time for a PMR :-) -- Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor) < Mainframe Systems Programmer

REXX as JCL replacement

2018-07-02 Thread John Melcher, Jr
Once upon a time a LONG time ago this was a GUIDE requirement. It was voted down due to the amount of automated systems that generated JCL. You'd have to keep JCL, probably forever, because of those systems. -- This message (and reply) was read by Google and the NSA.

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Connect:Direct and VOL=REF ?

2018-07-02 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek)
I don't think I can accept an RFE on this one - the documentation clearly shows it should work :-) That and we need it to work -- Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor) < Mainframe Systems Programmer – RavenTek Solution Partners

Re: REXX as JCL replacement

2018-07-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 2 Jul 2018 11:10:31 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >Oh my gosh, you would have to maintain JCL forever for that and a dozen other >reasons. > >BUT! Conceivably ... conceivably ... you might stabilize it and do everything >new in Rexx going forward. > If the replacement had a superset of

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Connect:Direct and VOL=REF ?

2018-07-02 Thread Joe Monk
I think it is saying that the system picks the volume from the referenced dsn, which must be cataloged (i.e. can't be a temp data set). Joe On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 3:49 PM, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Mon, 2 Jul 2018 15:07:07 -0400, Joe Monk

Re: TSO TEST breakpoint subcommand call either looping or not being executed

2018-07-02 Thread Joseph Reichman
Binyamin For example AT +8 (CALL PROGRAM PARM(parms) RETRUN(+C)) If +8 contains a STM r0,r15,saveregs in this scenario the STM is never executed and return to +C If for example at +8 (call program PARAM(parms) Return(+8)) the program is called repeatedly I would like what is +8 to get

Question about the z/OS Binder API

2018-07-02 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
The documentation for the z/OS V2.2 Binder API in the manual "z/OS MVS Program Management: Advanced Facilities" in "Appendix D. Binder API buffer formats", page 279 (PDF page count 297) has a footnote #3 for field ESD_ELEM_OFFSET which says: 3. Calculated on the ED and ER records, required

Re: Formatting (was: JCL ERROR : IGD01022I)

2018-07-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
Implementing any new RFC is a big order. If the mail clients on both ends implement RFC 3676, then cut-and-paste works. If a brain dead application simply slaps in format=flowed without following the specifications in the RFC, then blame that application. Again, do you know of any problem when

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Connect:Direct and VOL=REF ?

2018-07-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 2 Jul 2018 17:26:00 +, Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek) wrote: >The use of VOL=SER=xx works but that is only useful for the 1st data set >being copied. I've tried variations of ,'s also without success. > >Time for a PMR :-) > What if they tell you that has to be an RFE? (I suppose

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Connect:Direct and VOL=REF ?

2018-07-02 Thread Joe Monk
REF allows you to place a data set on the same volume as the referenced data set. It must be cataloged on the system where it is referenced. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/CD_PROC_LANG/com.ibm.help.cdprocstmtsparams.doc/cdproc_stmt_zos_Process_Parameters.html Joe On Mon, Jul 2,

Re: TSO TEST breakpoint subcommand call either looping or not being executed

2018-07-02 Thread Joseph Reichman
Either way as long as the breakpoint instruction Gets executed I’ll try it when I get home thanks Joe Reichman 170-10 73 rd ave Fresh meadows NY 11366 > On Jul 2, 2018, at 4:31 PM, Binyamin Dissen > wrote: > > If I understand you correctly and you repetitively want this to occur, you >

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Connect:Direct and VOL=REF ?

2018-07-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 2 Jul 2018 10:31:58 -0600, Roger Bolan wrote: >The syntax you showed makes me think that preceding commas are required. > That's what it seems to say, but does it mean it? Is this JCL, or an attempt to replicate JCL syntax? I can produce from this either: VOL = ( , , , SER = (

Re: Formatting (was: JCL ERROR : IGD01022I)

2018-07-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
(Yaay! You're no longer using koi8-r!) On Mon, 2 Jul 2018 17:06:08 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Implementing any new RFC is a big order. If the mail clients on both ends >implement RFC 3676, then cut-and-paste works. If a brain dead application >simply slaps in format=flowed without

Re: Looking for IMS Sysprog

2018-07-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
AOL. We don't need any ethnic slurs here. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Gord Tomlin Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2018 3:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: Looking for

Re: REXX as JCL replacement

2018-07-02 Thread Charles Mills
Oh my gosh, you would have to maintain JCL forever for that and a dozen other reasons. BUT! Conceivably ... conceivably ... you might stabilize it and do everything new in Rexx going forward. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: REXX as JCL replacement

2018-07-02 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek)
I like this up to a point - I would prefer to have an execution command and then be able to do if/then/else and another step, etc. Or just use standard TSO allocation and program call syntax, perhaps simplified to be more JCL 'like'

Re: REXX as JCL replacement

2018-07-02 Thread Steve Smith
There appears to be a visceral urge in some to force others to conform to their great vision of the new and better way (ergo DST). That isn't at all necessary in this case (nor DST). Just do it. Yourself. Now, or whenever you have the time. The simultaneous enqueue issue seems to be the

Re: Formatting (was: JCL ERROR : IGD01022I)

2018-07-02 Thread Edward Finnell
I looked at the archives and Senior Jaffe's post appears correctly formatted. It has plain/text and proportional font.    AFAIK, I've never had an issue posting code fragments on any list. I'm gonna experiment with one right now randomly taken from our

Re: Formatting (was: JCL ERROR : IGD01022I)

2018-07-02 Thread Edward Finnell
Definitely an admin question. The other interlocutor is the distribution server that takes the listserv post and spews it out to the subscribers. It may be munging for compression or just that's all it knows. In a message dated 7/2/2018 2:28:25 PM Central Standard Time,

Re: TSO TEST breakpoint subcommand call either looping or not being executed

2018-07-02 Thread Binyamin Dissen
If I understand you correctly and you repetitively want this to occur, you will need: AT +8 (AT +C (off +c;call ..;go);go) (assuming you want the CALL after the STM) On Mon, 2 Jul 2018 16:07:38 -0400 Joseph Reichman wrote: :>Binyamin :> :>For example AT +8 (CALL PROGRAM PARM(parms)

Re: Transaction jobs?

2018-07-02 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 7/2/2018 5:45 PM, Charles Mills wrote: Thanks. Can I do it with a UNIX command without programming? Absolutely! If you write sysout from z/OS UNIX you are creating that kind of output. -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245

Re: Transaction jobs?

2018-07-02 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks. Can I do it with a UNIX command without programming? (Not that I don't love to program ...) Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 4:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

AW: Re: Formatting

2018-07-02 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>My post did not come out as I expected. No flowing. I'm going to shut up. I concur. When I read the explanation regarding "leading or trailing" blanks, I thought I finally understand. Then came your post, and I'm back to "I don't have a clue why it sometimes does work, and sometimes it does

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Connect:Direct and VOL=REF ?

2018-07-02 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek)
JCL and Connect:Direct syntax, while similar are not the same :-) -- Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor) < Mainframe Systems Programmer – RavenTek Solution Partners -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Connect:Direct and VOL=REF ?

2018-07-02 Thread Roger Bolan
The syntax you showed makes me think that preceding commas are required. On Mon, Jul 2, 2018, 9:43 AM Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek) wrote: > Using C:D 5.2 and yes I had tried that :-) > > The 'error' message, if that is what you want to call it, claims invalid > VOL=SER= usage. > > Banging head

Re: Formatting

2018-07-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
> This code looks fine. My experience in posting to IBM-MAIN is that spaces at > the beginning *or end* > of a line allows the data to look fine. But truncating both leading and > trailing spaces causes the >List processor to flow lines up to the next 'break', That sounds seriously b0rken.

Re: OT: Hot Topics (sort off ... ;-D )

2018-07-02 Thread Nightwatch RenBand
Parker Solar Probe to be launched on or after 2018-07-31. Do not be silly Engelbrecht, Capt Kirk and crew will have gone (note the tense) far closer back in the 1960's. ; ^ ) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: SHARE App - Still no St. Louis?

2018-07-02 Thread Bastin, Justin
Hi Michael, Hope all is well. SHARE St. Louis will not be present in the SHARE App until we are closer to the conference. However, in the meantime, the desktop version is available either from the menu of event.share.org under Agenda/Technical Agenda, or by using this url:

Re: Connect:Direct and VOL=REF ?

2018-07-02 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek) wrote: >After pouring thru the connect:direct pubs and finding that REF= is support, >I've not been able to find the correct syntax to do a VOL=REF=dsn within a >Connect:Direct Proc on the TO parameters. >Can anyone offer any suggestions/advice/direction? >The

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Connect:Direct and VOL=REF ?

2018-07-02 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek)
Using C:D 5.2 and yes I had tried that :-) The 'error' message, if that is what you want to call it, claims invalid VOL=SER= usage. Banging head against the wall removes the pain of trying to figure this out but that is only temporary.

Re: SHARE App - Still no St. Louis?

2018-07-02 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 7/2/2018 6:07 AM, Michael Babcock wrote: I still don’t see St. Louis in the SHARE app. Is that available yet or .? July 9th is the currently scheduled mobile app launch date... -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245

Re: Formatting

2018-07-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
Well, your first two line don't have leading spaces and they didn't get warped (sic). -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Ed Jaffe Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2018 7:02 PM To: