How does the interpretation of Peter Farley's question depend on anybody's
definition of support except Peter's. Only if IBM asked the question would
IBM's definition be relevant.
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Bill,
check the 2nd post in this topic by Galina
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bit.listserv.ibm-main/2wlNViP1ndc
Thanks,
Kolusu
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On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 17:17:35 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>It may depend on how you define support. There are some utilities that work
>but for which the documentation doesn't mention it. The DD: recognition is
>unsupported in the sense that if it breaks IBM will not consider that an error.
>
I did not intend to start a storm of messages here.
I was simply using the IBM definition of system integrity which they document
here,
https://www.ibm.com/it-infrastructure/z/capabilities/system-integrity
Yes, maybe it is semantics. But many working in IBM mainframe security
community would
Maybe I need a make-up class at Saturday morning vocab class. Then again maybe
it's a distinction without a difference. Here's why you do *not* want to
over-grant update access to the master catalog.
-- For the average user, there should be some user catalog pointed to by an
alias in mcat.
When I order software maintenance and download it, why does it need to go to
USS first?
thanks
Bill
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Dave,
Sorry, but I actually disagree with Master catalog access being an integrity
issue.
I would classify it as a security issue rather than an integrity issue.
The normal controls on the operating system are working correctly and are not
being bypassed, so I don't see that as an integrity
No.
On 2020-09-16 23:18, Seymour J Metz wrote:
JTIP is more of an unsupported SAPI; it doesn't do what SDSF does. Various
versions of Wylbur supported it as an alternative SPOOL access. Do you have a
batch version of Wylbur at your shop?
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Because that is how they built the process
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When I order software maintenance and download it,
Hello
Is there any utility which can help to search the loaded MLPA module ? Is
it possible to load MLPA dynamically by avoiding IPL?(apology if this a
ignorant question)
We have a product which loads via MLPA and we just trying to understand if
it's possible to load it dynamically without the
Gil,
No documentation at all. Merely trial and error observation. A few years ago
I had good business reasons to use z/OS awk for a research project for my
employer and found that it works using "classic" datasets for both input and
output. Whether it was INTENDED by IBM to do so is a
Users probably need read access to mcat so they can access SYS1.MACLIB and
others like it.
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For my money, the quickest and most reliable way to find the 'latest PTF' of a
load module is to use the PDS command or its progeny StarTool. Select the
member you want to query in its load library. For example, we're currently
working on module AMAPDUPL In MIGLIB. Use the 'HISTORY' subcommand:
Peter,
To load into dynamic lpa use setprog,add,modname=
To test if already loaded use d prog,lpa,modname=
There are macro calls for both if you want to do that from a program.
ITschak
בתאריך יום ו׳, 18 בספט׳ 2020, 6:43, מאת Peter :
> Hello
>
> Is there any utility which can help to
IEALPAxx and LPALSTxx treated in same way ?
On Fri, 18 Sep, 2020, 9:44 am Seymour J Metz, wrote:
> You can search an LPA module with IPCS.
>
> In addition to the SETPROG command there's the CSVDYLPA macro.
>
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You can search an LPA module with IPCS.
In addition to the SETPROG command there's the CSVDYLPA macro.
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On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 05:42:35 -0500, Bill Giannelli wrote:
>When I order software maintenance and download it, why does it need to go to
>USS first?
>thanks
>
o If uses tools such as pax for which classic MVS has no equivalent.
o The SMPNTS contains a variety of data organization beyond
the
I could be *completely* wrong .. so ... will wait for the list to correct me.
Think this could be because TCP/IP is built 'in' USS, and therefore the ShopZ
job, which probably does HTTPS to IBM, needs to get its stuff into USS.
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When I order software
Our DR vendor just upgraded their mainframe (upgraded a z13 to a z14) ... when
we recover our system we restore our z/VM 7.1 system first and then restore our
z/OS 2.2 system as a guest under our VM. We have been debating whether we need
to do the Required Service that a FIXCAT report produces
PTF numbers are assigned in increasing order, but there's no real guarantee
that reflects the order they apply in.
In addition to Mark Jacobs' advice, you can also just list the sysmod
you're interested in; as it could have been SUPed and not show up directly
on the MOD entry.
sas
On Thu, Sep
I could damage the catalog, perhaps as easily as adding datasets until I
overflow it. Perhaps not integrity as in ability to upgrade my authority, but
certainly a potential DOS and a threat to system stability.
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On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 14:58:44 +, Farley, Peter x23353
wrote:
>Of course that is an option, particularly the COBOL one. I am personally very
>familiar with awk and z/OS awk does support "classic" datasets via DD, ...
>
Citation needed. According to what IBM document?
On Thu, 17 Sep 2020
There's not much benefit to debating the semantics of "integrity". Nobody
who doesn't thoroughly understand catalog management should be able to
update the master catalog, because you can easily destroy the system by
removing critical dataset entries. Much more typically, it just fills up
with
Classification: HCL Internal
Would you allow random updates of the ROOT directory on a *NIX system?. This is
definitely both a integrity and an operational exposure
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Im sorry I was joking about AWK and especially SED
thought there are people who would do it :-)
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Bill,
If UI70029 supercedes UI69028, then yes, the code correction in UI69028 is
included.
Rex
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No, its because the process uses java...
Joe
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 7:57 AM kekronbekron <
02dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> I could be *completely* wrong .. so ... will wait for the list to correct
> me.
> Think this could be because TCP/IP is built 'in' USS, and
For the current TCB, I want to extract the thread id.
I'm using BPX1GTH.
I'm varying the values for PGTHACCESSID and PGAACCESSTHID.
When I get zeros for return value, return code and reason code, the thread id
is always 0.
I'm wondering if this is the right approach.
If it is, what values are
If I want to know if a given PTF is applied to a specific module, such as
UI69028, but I see UI70029. Does that mean prior PTFs are included?
thanks
Bill
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Unfortunately, no IBM FM here. CA FM is here and might be an option. Its
performance has been adequate for programming needs, but I have not put it to
the test on the really big files.
Peter
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On 9/16/2020 10:21 PM, Barbara Nitz wrote:
Thanks, Brian,
This is almost always a problem with the VTAM definition of the NJE applid that
you are using. Possibly you didn't start it or it was started before VTAM or
JES was ready for it to be started.
The NJE/TCP connection method should
> Can you set an a priori upper bound on the number of 'ABC' records?
> Suppose you're confident that there are at most 1000.
Gil,
Unfortunately that wouldn't work. If your input have less than 1000
records for the key 'ABC' and you code STOPAFT=1001, then it would read the
entire file as we
Indeed, Rexx is an option but not the fastest tool in the box. And I don't know
about sed but z/OS awk (perhaps not intentionally) does indeed support
"classic" datasets via DD.
Peter
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Execute a batch SMP/e job;
LIST MOD(modname) XREF.
That'll list all the PTFS and such that touched that module.
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Of course that is an option, particularly the COBOL one. I am personally very
familiar with awk and z/OS awk does support "classic" datasets via DD, but very
few other programmers in the shop would know how to use it, or support it in my
absence.
And an E15 exit is always a possibility. I
Of course that is possible, and it is an option that I am aware of. It's just
not as immediately usable as a control-card-only solution would be.
Peter
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>>> Note that I changed your EQ to GE. So it would stop after reading no
> more than 1001 irrelevant records, much improving the performance
> for the OP's "very large" SORTIN. Note also that the OP said SORTIN
> had previously been sorted, so no records having key LT,'ABC' would
> precede the
That depends on the type of access they have and on the dataset profiles. The
part about filling up the MC, of course, applies regardless.
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Steve
It's common for IBM to release multiple fixing PTFs for a single APAR, where
the PTFs address essentially the same problem/function in multiple releases.
This is often the case when two or more PTFs are close in numerical sequence.
The best answer is found in IBM ServiceLink function SIS,
It may depend on how you define support. There are some utilities that work but
for which the documentation doesn't mention it. The DD: recognition is
unsupported in the sense that if it breaks IBM will not consider that an error.
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Not if by prior you mean lower number. The safe thing to do is to query the
status of the PTF you're concerned with.
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David,
What are you trying to accomplish with this program or set of programs ?
A little more verb age would be great.
Scott
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 5:53 AM David Spiegel
wrote:
> No.
>
>
>
> On 2020-09-16 23:18, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
> > JTIP is more of an unsupported SAPI; it doesn't do
I have been trying to get the Web Enablement Toolkit for z/OS working using a
sample from SYS1.SAMPLIB member name HWTHXRX1. But I am getting an error
message :
HTTP Web Enablement Toolkit Sample Begin
*ERROR* (hwthconn) at time: 11:59:15
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