SVC 99 RLSE text unit on DISP=SHR allocation with a PDS/PDSE member name

2020-10-27 Thread Thomas David Rivers
I have a DYNALLOC set up with a default of adding the RLSE text unit (to release the space after a CLOSE.) This is to retrieve a system-provided DD name for an eventual OPEN OUTPUT operation, for opening a DSN(MEM) PDS/PDSE member. The PDS in question already exists (happens to be a PDSE.)

Re: Generic name for PDS/PDSE

2020-10-27 Thread Charles Mills
Grrr. As a frequent writer of documentation I struggle with that one. I would say either "PDS(E)" (which my PC keeps trying to auto-correct to PDS€) or a preamble something like "In this document, the term PDS means either a Partitioned Dataset (PDS) or a Partitioned Dataset Extended (PDSE)

Re: UNIX fork() performance (was: SMF to capture ... )

2020-10-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 11:17:24 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: > >_BPX_SHAREAS won't have any effect on bash, since what _BPX_SHARE does is >to tell spawn() to "local spawn" the new child process to the same address >space. It doesn't change how fork() works, which is what bash uses. >/bin/sh uses spawn()

Re: Syncsort to DFSORT - my time has come.

2020-10-27 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Here is our ICEPRM00, if you are interested. JCL DYNALOC=(SYSDA,12) DYNAUTO=YES MSGDDN=SYSOUT PARMDDN=DFSPARM SMF=NO INV DYNALOC=(SYSDA,12) DYNAUTO=IGNWKDD ERET=ABEND MSGDDN=SORTMSG PARMDDN=SORTPARM SMF=SHORT TSO SMF=SHORT TSOINV SMF=SHORT TD1 SMF=SHORT

Re: DFSORT Migration Documents

2020-10-27 Thread Gibney, Dave
Thank you. I knew these existed, but hadn't searched them out yet. They will be very helpful. From: Sri h Kolusu Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 10:59 AM To: Gibney, Dave Subject: DFSORT Migration Documents Hi Dave, Not sure you already have these documents, but the following are the

Re: Syncsort to DFSORT - my time has come.

2020-10-27 Thread Sri h Kolusu
> I can evaluate and transfer our long time SYNCSORT options. And the manual does offer advice in this area. Dave, I sent you an email offline about DFSORT equivalent installation options for syncsort. As always please feel free to send me any kind of questions related to migration. Thanks,

Generic name for PDS/PDSE

2020-10-27 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Is there a standard "generic" name for PDS/PDSE? Is it "PDS(E)"? Or maybe something like "MVS library" or "MVS dataset library"? Just wondering. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: SVC 99 RLSE text unit on DISP=SHR allocation with a PDS/PDSE member name

2020-10-27 Thread Charles Mills
Don't most member allocation parameters apply to the entire dataset? I would expect RLSE to behave that way. Consider that classic error in which the newbie codes DSN=WHATEVER(FOO),DISP=(OLD,DELETE) and is surprised that the whole dataset, not just FOO, goes away. Not what you asked, but is

Re: Syncsort to DFSORT - my time has come.

2020-10-27 Thread Gibney, Dave
Thank you, and Sri. I can evaluate and transfer our long time SYNCSORT options. And the manual does offer advice in this area. I've had this migration on my potential to-do list for some time. the incentive has become the imminent expiration of the license with Precisely. We literally have

Re: Generic name for PDS/PDSE

2020-10-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 21:17:17 +, Frank Swarbrick wrote: >Is there a standard "generic" name for PDS/PDSE? Is it "PDS(E)"? Or maybe >something like "MVS library" or "MVS dataset library"? > I use "PDS(E)". Sometimes the cumbersome "DSORG=PO", which is sort of a misnomer because the

Re: SVC 99 RLSE text unit on DISP=SHR allocation with a PDS/PDSE member name

2020-10-27 Thread Steve Smith
Space management inside PDSes and PDSEs is not under your control. PDSes have to be compressed sometimes, and PDSEs handle it automatically. RLSE applies to datasets, and is working as designed and documented. I expect it would work in JCL if specified correctly. sas On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at

Re: UNIX fork() performance (was: SMF to capture ... )

2020-10-27 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 28/10/2020 12:41 am, Paul Gilmartin wrote: But since OMVS manages address spaces by highwater mark, calling BPXAS only when the level rises and reaping after 30 seconds (is this configurable?) I'd expect orders of magnitude fewer SMF 30 than you observed. The SMF records are written for the

Re: Syncsort to DFSORT - my time has come.

2020-10-27 Thread Sri h Kolusu
> And, fwiw, and fyi. The version of SHOWZOS I recently pulled from > cbt seems not to observe the results of > START ICEOPT,ICEPRM=00 Dave, You can list the installation defaults with the following JOB. It will show you the updated values either from parmlib or icemac. //STEP0100 EXEC

Re: TSOLIB within a rexx pgm

2020-10-27 Thread Tom Conley
On 10/27/2020 6:02 PM, ITschak Mugzach wrote: I am trying to allocate a "steplib" using tsolib command. I know that TSOLIB only operates under TSO READY prompt, so I run a TSO BATCh job with the below prg. The program is called from SYSIN with parm PHASE1. In this case, it should queue the

Re: Syncsort to DFSORT - my time has come.

2020-10-27 Thread Gibney, Dave
After review of our SYNCSORT settings, I have: * JCL (ICEAM1) JCL DYNALOC=(3390,10) DYNAUTO=IGNWKDD EQUALS=NO ERET=ABEND SORTLIB=SYSTEM Y2PAST=0 * * INV (ICEAM2) INV DYNALOC=(3390,10) DYNAUTO=IGNWKDD

Re: Syncsort to DFSORT - my time has come.

2020-10-27 Thread Gibney, Dave
And, fwiw, and fyi. The version of SHOWZOS I recently pulled from cbt seems not to observe the results of START ICEOPT,ICEPRM=00 > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Gibney, Dave > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 3:05 PM > To:

Re: z/osmf Network Configuration Assistant

2020-10-27 Thread Roberto Halais
We are using manual modifications. Before, we used the Windows application which was excellent. We tried z/OSMF NCA but don't like it. Maybe IBM will force us to use it. On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 12:21 PM Keith Gooding < 034af3894af4-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Is anyone using this

Re: SMF to capture user login history

2020-10-27 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 27/10/2020 2:53 am, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Does that include OMVS fork()? Seems like overkill given that some jobs may do copious forks. OMVS can produce a lot of SMF records. I did some testing on a short shell script, and 1000 iterations of a loop produced about 28,000 type 30 records -

Re: z/osmf Network Configuration Assistant

2020-10-27 Thread Michael Babcock
I also use manual modification and it works fine. NCA in the other hand seems daunting to me. A question and answer format like zCX would be far better IMHO. On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 7:05 AM Roberto Halais wrote: > We are using manual modifications. Before, we used the Windows application >

Re: emptying a PDS: was RE: [IBM-MAIN] getting XCFAS down

2020-10-27 Thread Peter Relson
> Interesting. That completion code would not have been in correct IBM code > (Fxx abends have indicated the non-availability of SVC xx, for as long as > the SVC FLIH has existed, as far as I know). It was many moons ago, maybe it was z/OS 1.4 or earlier (OS/390 2.10?). Definitely it was RMM

IMS module DVRX0000 purpose

2020-10-27 Thread Bill Giannelli
We decommissioned IMS a couple of years back. We now find that an application is still using an IMS module, DVRX. Can someone tell me what this module does? Is seems, from a google search, it is some type of old IMS DPROP module. thanks Bill

UNIX fork() performance (was: SMF to capture ... )

2020-10-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 21:39:11 +1100, Andrew Rowley wrote: > >OMVS can produce a lot of SMF records. I did some testing on a short >shell script, and 1000 iterations of a loop produced about 28,000 type >30 records - around 200 records/second.  The good news is that the >records are likely small

Re: IMS module DVRX0000 purpose

2020-10-27 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Looked at my IMS 15 product libraries and found no such module. Does it have the fmid inside? Why do you think it is IMS? ITschak ITschak Mugzach *|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for z/OS, x/Linux & IBM I **| z/VM comming son * On Tue, Oct 27, 2020

Re: z/osmf Network Configuration Assistant

2020-10-27 Thread Tom Conley
On 10/26/2020 12:21 PM, Keith Gooding wrote: Is anyone using this to maintain AT-TLS policies or any other policies ? Any views on NCA vs manual editing of the policy file ? When I first encountered AT-TLS I used the Windows version to generate a simple policy file for one type of

Re: IMS module DVRX0000 purpose

2020-10-27 Thread Steve Beaver
IMS DataPropagator for z/OS: Reference - IBM DPROP Support for Orderly and Controlled Status Changes... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Conley Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 8:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: IMS module DVRX0000 purpose

2020-10-27 Thread Tom Conley
On 10/27/2020 9:00 AM, Bill Giannelli wrote: We decommissioned IMS a couple of years back. We now find that an application is still using an IMS module, DVRX. Can someone tell me what this module does? Is seems, from a google search, it is some type of old IMS DPROP module. thanks Bill

Re: UNIX fork() performance (was: SMF to capture ... )

2020-10-27 Thread Greg Price
On 2020-10-28 12:41 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: (Pro tip: I use ": >>broken/$f" rather than "touch broken/$f" when I create a file but don't need to update its timestamp. Fewer forks; fewer keystrokes.) Are you saying "different strokes for different forks"? :)

Re: UNIX fork() performance (was: SMF to capture ... )

2020-10-27 Thread Kirk Wolf
On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 8:42 AM Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 21:39:11 +1100, Andrew Rowley wrote: > > > >OMVS can produce a lot of SMF records. I did some testing on a short > >shell script, and 1000 iterations of a loop produced

Re: Syncsort to DFSORT - my time has come.

2020-10-27 Thread R.S.
W dniu 27.10.2020 o 18:16, Gibney, Dave pisze: A fairly quick question. Are there sample ICEPRMxx members provided by IBM for tailoring DFSORT? I don't find any in SICESAMP. Yesterday, in my sandbox, I IPL'd with SICELPA, SORTLPA, SICELINK, SORTLIB ahead of the SYNCSORT libraries and not

Syncsort to DFSORT - my time has come.

2020-10-27 Thread Gibney, Dave
A fairly quick question. Are there sample ICEPRMxx members provided by IBM for tailoring DFSORT? I don't find any in SICESAMP. Yesterday, in my sandbox, I IPL'd with SICELPA, SORTLPA, SICELINK, SORTLIB ahead of the SYNCSORT libraries and not ICEPRMxx. SHOWZOS shows DFSORT as resident sort

Re: Syncsort to DFSORT - my time has come.

2020-10-27 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Dave, That is good new !! We don't have samples for ICEPRMxx, however our Installation and Customization has good examples. Check this link https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.4.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r4.icei100/ice2ci_ICEPRM01_installation_default_overrides.htm#idg9282__iceprm01