Re: Can I use IGGCSI00 to Access an Entire Catalog Without Specifying a Filter ?

2012-09-27 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
>Shmuel is correct. No, he's not. My point was that with REXX you *can* do a substr(source,8,5) with a source shorter than 13 bytes and REXX will pad the 3 characters from the source with two blanks and *will assign* a 5 character string to the target (varchar) variable. So,with REXX the stateme

Re: Loop in STORAGE under ZOS 1.13?

2012-09-27 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 09/27/2012 07:02:40 PM: > I have a customer who is having a hard loop trying to get a CML lock. > > The program (SS-PC) is issuing a STORAGE macro (against the primary address > space). At the timer that the job is canceled, the linkage stack shows a > ge

Loop in STORAGE under ZOS 1.13?

2012-09-27 Thread Binyamin Dissen
I have a customer who is having a hard loop trying to get a CML lock. The program (SS-PC) is issuing a STORAGE macro (against the primary address space). At the timer that the job is canceled, the linkage stack shows a getmain. Analyze shows that the task is holding the CPU lock and waiting on the

Re: JCL Source Library Name Available During Execution?

2012-09-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 16:08:18 -0500, McKown, John wrote: > >And I don't see where it is really of any use. Perhaps the OP could help me on >this point. I really am stumped about why anybody would care. Now, being able >to log the entire "job stream" (JCL and data images) might be of some interest

Re: Questions about IARST64

2012-09-27 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:17:32 -0400 Kirk Talman wrote: :>Interesting patent. :>There is prior art in this area dating back at least 2 decades. I used :>the technique they described in a program less than a decade ago to manage :>allocation and freeing of cells in a multi-tasking environment.

Re: JCL Source Library Name Available During Execution?

2012-09-27 Thread Mitch
Dave: No worries. I will provide an answer in the next couple of days. I just need to piece together the process, how it would be set up and where the results would be available (and when and how to access it). FYI, I have been in the JCL business for over 30 years, so I have (almost) seen i

Re: Another Light goes out

2012-09-27 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-09-27 17:01, Joel C. Ewing pisze: On 09/27/2012 08:52 AM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote: "Shmuel Metz , Seymour J." wrote in message news:<20120927125900.3d407f58...@smtp.patriot.net>... In <5063f617.80...@bremultibank.com.pl>, on 09/27/2012 at 08:45 AM, "R.S." said: Excuse me

Re: JCL Source Library Name Available During Execution?

2012-09-27 Thread Gibney, Dave
Since, I don't believe you when if you maintain that from an executing job, you can in all cases determine the dataset (if any) that contained the jobs JCL, please do answer publically. Since it is an easy matter using IEBGENER and the internal reader to piece together JCL from several disparat

Re: JCL Source Library Name Available During Execution?

2012-09-27 Thread Mitch
I had indicated in a previous email that there is a way to do this, but that I would send the information via private reply. If others want to know this, please let me know and I will publish the response to the group, instead. With Regards, Mitch McCluhan, Legacy Modernization Consultant -

Re: JCL Source Library Name Available During Execution?

2012-09-27 Thread McKown, John
When you enter a "submit" command while in ISPF edit, ISPF saves the current data in the "edit buffer" to a data set, then does a TSO SUBMIT against that. So, even if you could log the name of that "temporary" dataset, it wouldn't tell you the name of the member you were editing. And what use wo

Re: JCL Source Library Name Available During Execution?

2012-09-27 Thread Steve Horein
I too have a desire for this same information! I started chasing down (published) IKJ* data areas for when I "sub" a job in ISPF, but know and understand this will fall short when a job is submitted outside of TSO. I'm hoping a positive answer is provided! On Sep 27, 2012 2:51 PM, "Smith, Sean M"

Re: JCL Source Library Name Available During Execution?

2012-09-27 Thread Mitch
Sean: There is a way to do this, but I would prefer to discuss this offline with you so that it is not seen as an advertisement for any particular product. Mitch McCluhan, Legacy Modernization Consultant -Original Message- From: Smith, Sean M To: IBM-MAIN Sent: Thu, Sep 27, 2012 12

JCL Source Library Name Available During Execution?

2012-09-27 Thread Smith, Sean M
Is there a way in a batch job running REXX, for the REXX to figure out the original library and member the JCL came from? My experience tells me no and my hunch tells me the same thing but I thought I would put it out there in case someone has been here and seen this...hidden in a JES control b

Re: Another Light goes out

2012-09-27 Thread Roberts, John J
>a few consultants? 84,500 hrs = 42 person-yrs Ohio interviewed me back in late 2008 for a role on this project. So they have been working on it for nearly 4 years. So an average team size of 11 or 12. Given that they did it with mostly State Staff, they would have had a steep learning curv

Re: Another Light goes out

2012-09-27 Thread Kirk Talman
a few consultants? 84,500 hrs = 42 person-yrs IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 09/26/2012 12:06:30 AM: > From: Ed Gould > http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9231499/ > Ohio_mainframe_exodus_wraps_up_in_84_500_hours?taxonomyId=68 - The info

Re: Questions about IARST64

2012-09-27 Thread Kirk Talman
Interesting patent. There is prior art in this area dating back at least 2 decades. I used the technique they described in a program less than a decade ago to manage allocation and freeing of cells in a multi-tasking environment. The same technique (w/o multi-tasking environment and requireme

Re: Can I use IGGCSI00 to Access an Entire Catalog Without Specifying a Filter ?

2012-09-27 Thread John Gilmore
Shmuel is correct. Your string SOURCE is 10 characters in length. The number of characters in the substring beginning at the one-origin offset 8 is three, to wit the eighth, the ninth and the tenth. The substring defined by your SUBSTR(SOURCE,8,5) is thus two characters too long, and the compile

Re: Another Light goes out

2012-09-27 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 09/27/2012 08:52 AM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote: "Shmuel Metz , Seymour J." wrote in message news:<20120927125900.3d407f58...@smtp.patriot.net>... In <5063f617.80...@bremultibank.com.pl>, on 09/27/2012 at 08:45 AM, "R.S." said: Excuse me, what is misleading? It's obviousm that .NET f

Re: Can I use IGGCSI00 to Access an Entire Catalog Without Specifying a Filter ?

2012-09-27 Thread Jonathan Goossen
Chapter 11 of "DFSMS Managing Catalogs" page 211 explains 'CSIFILTK, Generic Filter Key' very well. Finding this chapter helped me a lot in understanding the examples that I found elsewhere and in using it. Thank you and have a Terrific day! Jonathan Goossen, DTM ACT Mainframe Storage Group P

Re: LLA REFRESH after increasing directory

2012-09-27 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 07:34:31 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: >On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:14:46 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: > >>On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 16:04:06 -0400, Ken Porowski wrote: >> >>>I was a little worried after the first 3 responses of Yes, No, and >>>Maybe. >> >>If you have a sandbox LPAR, it is si

Re: Can I use IGGCSI00 to Access an Entire Catalog Without Specifying a Filter ?

2012-09-27 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
>PL/I With "IBM(R) Enterprise PL/I for z/OS V4.R2.M0" the following code: DCL SOURCE CHAR(10) INIT('0123456789'); PUT SKIP LIST( ">" !! SUBSTR(SOURCE, 8, 5) !! "<" ); leads to msg: "IBM1446I E 4.0 Third argument in SUBSTR reference is too big. It will be trimmed to fit

Re: SMP/E or 11 years of stupidity (rant)

2012-09-27 Thread zMan
Yeah, I wonder if some ignorant person saw "description" and figured it was just a doc issue? On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Joel C. Ewing wrote: > On 09/27/2012 07:45 AM, R.S. wrote: > >> (Hard words, but IMHO justfied) >> >> See APAR II13027. Submitted date: 2001-10-30 >> Product named CCCA

Re: Another Light goes out

2012-09-27 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.) writes: > Excuse me, what is misleading? It's obviousm that .NET framework work > on Windows operating system and the windows is not free of > charge. However you can have Windows (for money) and get the framework > with no additional cost. That means it's FREE

Re: SMP/E or 11 years of stupidity (rant)

2012-09-27 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 09/27/2012 07:45 AM, R.S. wrote: (Hard words, but IMHO justfied) See APAR II13027. Submitted date: 2001-10-30 Product named CCCA contains an error. It not error in the code itself, it's error in SMP/E description of one of its elements. ABJ058 has wrong RMID. It blocks some PTFs to the prod

Re: Query for Destination z article on reporting problems

2012-09-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <506316c1.30...@gabegold.com>, on 09/26/2012 at 10:52 AM, Gabe Goldberg said: >I'm writing article for Destination z -- http://destinationz.org/ -- >giving tips for reporting problems to vendors. Off the top of my head: 1. Be honest about severity level. 2. Know escalation procedures

Re: Query for Destination z article on reporting problems

2012-09-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <4614277004675740.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu>, on 09/26/2012 at 10:19 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht said: >Carrier pigeon? IETF updated RFC 1149 with RFC 6214 in 2011 to suppoert IP V6. Hardly ancient (-; -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2

Re: GIM39001E in SMP/E RECEIVE FROMNTS

2012-09-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <2898629948738139.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 09/26/2012 at 08:56 AM, Paul Gilmartin said: >I stand corrected. But still, if RECEIVE tolerates processing a >SYSMOD prior to its PRErequisites on the assumption that APPLY >will sort things out, I might hope for the same flex

Re: Another Light goes out

2012-09-27 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
"Shmuel Metz , Seymour J." wrote in message news:<20120927125900.3d407f58...@smtp.patriot.net>... > In <5063f617.80...@bremultibank.com.pl>, on 09/27/2012 >at 08:45 AM, "R.S." said: > > >Excuse me, what is misleading? It's obviousm that .NET framework > >work on Windows operating system an

Re: Can I use IGGCSI00 to Access an Entire Catalog Without Specifying a Filter ?

2012-09-27 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >>KEY = '**' >>CSIFILTK = SUBSTR(KEY,1,44) >Why not LEFT(KEY,44)? Good question, but that line is coming from the REXX sample kindly supplied by Big Blue. ;-) Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht ---

Re: Can I use IGGCSI00 to Access an Entire Catalog Without Specifying a Filter ?

2012-09-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 09/27/2012 at 09:00 AM, "Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)" said: >You might wonder why the CSI* variables are filled using the >substr() function. Indeed; why not LEFT? >There is a special behavior of substr(), left(), right() in REX that >I haven't seen in other languages (and have indeed b

Re: Can I use IGGCSI00 to Access an Entire Catalog Without Specifying a Filter ?

2012-09-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <0522205521763729.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu>, on 09/26/2012 at 08:28 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht said: >Try >KEY = '**' >CSIFILTK = SUBSTR(KEY,1,44) Why not LEFT(KEY,44)? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2

Re: Another Light goes out

2012-09-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <5063f617.80...@bremultibank.com.pl>, on 09/27/2012 at 08:45 AM, "R.S." said: >Excuse me, what is misleading? It's obviousm that .NET framework >work on Windows operating system and the windows is not free of >charge. However you can have Windows (for money) and get the >framework with

Re: Another Light goes out

2012-09-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 09/26/2012 at 06:28 AM, Ron Wells said: >and too bad...but then computer world has always been a MS fan.. That seems unlikely, given when they started. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2 We don't care. We don't have to

Re: Command EXIT - IDCAMS

2012-09-27 Thread McKown, John
OOPS, meant to include a URL for doc on IDCAMS exits when invoked from another program. http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DGT2I2A1/D.0?SHELF=dgt2bkb2&DT=20120126090739 -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevar

Re: Command EXIT - IDCAMS

2012-09-27 Thread McKown, John
Bottom line: No. Further bottom line: You cannot do what you want to do using any standard IBM service (RACF) or exit. What might you be able to do to accomplish your goal. First, restrict the use of IDCAMS. I.e. don't let these people use it at all. "But they need it!". I realize that. Write y

SMP/E or 11 years of stupidity (rant)

2012-09-27 Thread R.S.
(Hard words, but IMHO justfied) See APAR II13027. Submitted date: 2001-10-30 Product named CCCA contains an error. It not error in the code itself, it's error in SMP/E description of one of its elements. ABJ058 has wrong RMID. It blocks some PTFs to the product. I met this problem for the fir

Re: LLA REFRESH after increasing directory

2012-09-27 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:14:46 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: >On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 16:04:06 -0400, Ken Porowski wrote: > >>I was a little worried after the first 3 responses of Yes, No, and >>Maybe. > >If you have a sandbox LPAR, it is simple to test. I beg to differ. It is simple to try it, testing is

Re: Can I use IGGCSI00 to Access an Entire Catalog Without Specifying a Filter ?

2012-09-27 Thread Scott Ford
John, Your very funny, yeah I can spell but it can't, what can I say Scott ford www.identityforge.com Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:48 AM, "McKown, John" wrote: >> -Original Message-

Re: GIM44336S

2012-09-27 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
GIM44336S ** AN UNUSUAL CONDITION OCCURRED. GIMJVCMF - java.security.InvalidParameterException Did anything interesting or useful get written to SYSPRINT regarding this error? If not, can you reproduce the error, but this time specify javadebugoptions="-Dcom.ibm.smp.debug=severe" in the Cl

Re: Can I use IGGCSI00 to Access an Entire Catalog Without Specifying a Filter ?

2012-09-27 Thread Michael Egle
Thanks Mark, I took a look at your CATSRCH REXX and that appears to be exactly what I was looking for. Thanks I had done several searches on Google, and also within this and several other LISTSERV Archives, but all of the examples that I had come across were expecting to use the Filter, and w

Re: GIM39001E in SMP/E RECEIVE FROMNTS

2012-09-27 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
Why does order matter? Is it because the FMID list in the GZONE entry is not updated until RECEIVE processing for that SYSMOD is complete, only after which it moves on to the next? That is exactly correct. Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development

Re: Can I use IGGCSI00 to Access an Entire Catalog Without Specifying a Filter ?

2012-09-27 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Scott Ford > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 4:40 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Can I use IGGCSI00 to Access an Entire Catalog Without > Specifying a Filter ? >

Command EXIT - IDCAMS

2012-09-27 Thread Jake anderson
Hi, Is there a command EXIT which Restricts the user Specifying not more than LIMIT(3) during GDG base Creation ? Any Pointer or Suggestions Would be highly appreciated. Jake -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: CBT File745 (File Formatter aka OS) - Off topic

2012-09-27 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Peter Hunkeler wrote: >Reminds me that whenever I read that the world will go under at this or that >date, I'm not becoming scared. >In order to be able to go under you first need to know which side is up! >Fortunately we do not exactly know ;-) That is a big relief! ;-) Your remarks remi

Re: CBT File745 (File Formatter aka OS) - Off topic

2012-09-27 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
>We could be the topside of the planet! > >Richard Marchant >Johannesburg Reminds me that whenever I read that the world will go under at this or that date, I'm not becoming scared. In order to be able to go under you first need to know which side is up! Fortunately we do not exactly know ;-)

Re: Can I use IGGCSI00 to Access an Entire Catalog Without Specifying a Filter ?

2012-09-27 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
Since you said you wanted to improve your REXX skills, let me add the following (I'm aware you might already know this): >KEY = '**' >CSIFILTK = SUBSTR(KEY,1,44) ... >CSICATNM = SUBSTR('',1,44) You might wonder why the CSI* variables are filled using the substr() function. There is a special b