Lua: was something else entirely

2013-06-29 Thread Shane Ginnane
Hmmm - I can see the naif (me in this instance) having a hard time not tripping over the and, or and true/false implementations. Could lead to some seriously ugly run-time bugs (i.e. not reported as errors) for those of us from somewhat varied backgrounds. Especially that attempt to describe a

Re: Theology question: Parameter formats

2013-06-29 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
We do insurance math development in C since 1993, and the normal callers are PL/1 (on the mainframe platform, there are other platforms, too). We decided that the main goal is that PL/1 callers feel comfortable, so we never request them to put hex zeroes at the end of the strings that we get,

EXECIO - Was: Great quote on http://slashdot.org (changes frequently)

2013-06-29 Thread Martin Packer
As EXECIO got mentioned... In the Munich System z Technical University conference 2 weeks ago Marna Walle mentioned that in z/OS 2.1 EXECIO is previewed to perform I/O to VBS (as in Spanned :-) ) data sets. To me that says SMF. And removes one lameness in EXECIO. It would be nice to

Re: Great quote on http://slashdot.org (changes frequently)

2013-06-29 Thread Martin Packer
+1 for taking a look at the language - in case its party tricks are compelling. But I wonder how many packages are written in Lua - and that's my real beef. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584

Re: z/OS Configuration for Security - Not RACF or other ESM

2013-06-29 Thread Robert S. Hansel (RSH)
Ken, The reference that perhaps comes closest to what you want is the book OS/390-z/OS Security Audit and Control Features. It used to be available from ISACA but is now out of print. It is a bit dated (2004), somewhat verbose, and mostly focused on RACF. Also from ISACA is the 2009 checklist

Re: EXECIO - Was: Great quote on http://slashdot.org (changes frequently)

2013-06-29 Thread David Crayford
On 29/06/2013 6:39 PM, Martin Packer wrote: As EXECIO got mentioned... In the Munich System z Technical University conference 2 weeks ago Marna Walle mentioned that in z/OS 2.1 EXECIO is previewed to perform I/O to VBS (as in Spanned :-) ) data sets. To me that says SMF. And removes one

Re: Great quote on http://slashdot.org (changes frequently)

2013-06-29 Thread David Crayford
On 29/06/2013 6:39 PM, Martin Packer wrote: Would a Lua port use System XML? I suspect not - which is what it might take to make XML processing for the masses on z/O We're talking about scripting languages. Do you know of any REXX libraries on z/OS that can even parse XML? Do they use System

Re: Great quote on http://slashdot.org (changes frequently)

2013-06-29 Thread Shane Ginnane
Indeed. I basically gave up on REXX, particularly for text processing, ages ago. Even for my RMF reports it's easier to ftp (via hipersockets) down to zLinux and use awk or perl to reformat them as I want, then ftp them back. Cheap MIPS/MSUs too. Must admit I do little scripting in z/OS these

Re: Theology question: Parameter formats

2013-06-29 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
One addition to make it more clear (hopefully): normally pointers to structures are passed between PL/1 and C, and these structures are defined (language independent) using a repository, from which both structure definitions for both languages are generated (and for ASSEMBLER, too, BTW). The

Re: Theology question: Parameter formats

2013-06-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 15:28:06 +0200, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: normally pointers to structures are passed between PL/1 and C, and these structures are defined (language independent) using a repository, from which both structure definitions for both languages are generated (and for ASSEMBLER, too,

Re: Theology question: Parameter formats

2013-06-29 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
First, IBM's C is in no way different from other's C. Then: C passes EVERY parameters as values, that is: if you pass integers (BIN FIXED(31)) to a subroutine, normally PL/1 - and FORTRAN etc. - pass the address of the integer, but C passed the value of the integer - that is, Reg 1 points to

Re: Theology question: Parameter formats

2013-06-29 Thread Steve Comstock
On 6/29/2013 8:29 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 15:28:06 +0200, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: normally pointers to structures are passed between PL/1 and C, and these structures are defined (language independent) using a repository, from which both structure definitions for both

Re: z/OS Configuration for Security - Not RACF or other ESM

2013-06-29 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Robert S. Hansel (RSH) wrote: To add to your list, also offhand, include PARMLIBs, catalogs, JESPARMs (governing entry of operator commands), TSO parms, installation SVCs and Program Calls, Exits, I/O Appendages, PROCLIBs, and IPLPARMs. Add also these: SMP/E usage, z/OS Communication Server

Language environment question

2013-06-29 Thread Sam Siegel
Hello - my process creates several TCBs. Each TCB establishes its own LE enclave using CEEPIPI. As part of the LE runtime options used in testing, RPTSTG(ON) is used. As each task ends, the storage report is printed. The storage report title for each task is Options Report for Enclave CEEPIPI

Re: Language environment question

2013-06-29 Thread Steve Comstock
On 6/29/2013 12:27 PM, Sam Siegel wrote: Hello - my process creates several TCBs. Each TCB establishes its own LE enclave using CEEPIPI. As part of the LE runtime options used in testing, RPTSTG(ON) is used. As each task ends, the storage report is printed. The storage report title for each

Re: Great quote on http://slashdot.org (changes frequently)

2013-06-29 Thread zMan
No Python on z/OS, not now, apparently not ever. Van Rossum doesn't believe in it: How important is z/OS? I'm very skeptical of the viability of any OS that uses an encoding that is not a superset of ASCII. Finger firmly on the pulse of the industry there... On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 10:17 AM,

Re: z/OS Configuration for Security - Not RACF or other ESM

2013-06-29 Thread Rob Schramm
Did anyone mention OMVS? Rob Schramm Rob Schramm Senior Systems Consultant Imperium Group On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: Robert S. Hansel (RSH) wrote: To add to your list, also offhand, include PARMLIBs, catalogs, JESPARMs

Re: Language environment question

2013-06-29 Thread Sam Siegel
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.comwrote: On 6/29/2013 12:27 PM, Sam Siegel wrote: Hello - my process creates several TCBs. Each TCB establishes its own LE enclave using CEEPIPI. As part of the LE runtime options used in testing, RPTSTG(ON) is used. As

Re: EXECIO - Was: Great quote on http://slashdot.org (changes frequently)

2013-06-29 Thread David Crayford
On 29/06/2013 11:15 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 6/29/2013 5:16 AM, David Crayford wrote: On 29/06/2013 6:39 PM, Martin Packer wrote: As EXECIO got mentioned... In the Munich System z Technical University conference 2 weeks ago Marna Walle mentioned that in z/OS 2.1 EXECIO is previewed to perform