Re: class C3 commands taking long

2014-02-24 Thread baby eklavya
Class C3 commands are ordinary attached commands that run in the CONSOLE address space . Such as Route commands On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 1:01 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.plwrote: W dniu 2014-02-24 01:14, baby eklavya pisze: Hello , Any idea why MVS class C3 commands take so long

Re: class C3 commands taking long

2014-02-24 Thread Jake anderson
Ok this for ROUTE Command in CONSOLE.. it would vary from shop to shop and time depends upon the configuration.(CONSOLxx). So in your Shop, how long does it takes ? On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 1:58 PM, baby eklavya baby.ekla...@gmail.comwrote: Class C3 commands are ordinary attached commands that

Re: class C3 commands taking long

2014-02-24 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
baby eklavya wrote: Any idea why MVS class C3 commands take so long to execute . While I see it is probably ROUTE command, where is 'class C3' documented? It seems like console address space can't process more than 50 commands at a time . We had to clear the command queue often to relieve the

Re: DFSort support for REXX E15?

2014-02-24 Thread Binyamin Dissen
The issue is not how to invoke DFSORT thru rexx - LINKMVS works fine (though it is sad that DFSORT does not support the alternate DDNAME parameter). I wish to sort all dsnames that fit pattern prefix.Dyyymmdd.Thhmmss. As these are not GDG's, JCL alone will not do the job. I need step (1), find

Re: DFSort support for REXX E15?

2014-02-24 Thread Binyamin Dissen
You got it, though I was referring to standard non-compiled rexx. On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 22:51:27 -0600 Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net wrote: :Hi: : :Maybe I am misunderstanding the original op statement. :I *THOUGHT* that the original op was doing : : sort field=(1,5,ch,a) : sort

Re: class C3 commands taking long

2014-02-24 Thread baby eklavya
We submitted a batch job having around 60 - 70 vary commands routed to 3 LPARS using COMMAND statement and we saw that the commands were queued up for long . A display of GRS contention showed that there was a system level enq on SYSZMCS by the console address space . The route commands were

Re: class C3 commands taking long

2014-02-24 Thread baby eklavya
It is documented in MVS system Commands manual - under Command Flooding section http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.zos.r12.ieag100%2Fiea2g1b134.htm We dont have any exits in place to handle commands . But the manuals states only 50 commands can run in

Re: class C3 commands taking long

2014-02-24 Thread Jake anderson
Can you share your Contention output ? How long is it happening ? Recently ? On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 3:50 PM, baby eklavya baby.ekla...@gmail.comwrote: It is documented in MVS system Commands manual - under Command Flooding section

Re: Convert Tcp/IP translate tables from binary to source

2014-02-24 Thread Bill Godfrey
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 09:06:11 +0200, Gadi wrote: Hi, I need to convert a customized binary version of a TCP/IP translation table to the source version. Is there a way to do this? I know that the CONVXLAT program will do the reverse. Thanks Gadi If it is an SBCS table named

Re: class C3 commands taking long

2014-02-24 Thread baby eklavya
ISG343I 17.28.56 GRS STATUS 866 S=SYSTEM SYSZMCS ROUTE-GROUP--CNID SYSNAMEJOBNAME ASID TCBADDR EXC/SHRSTATUS SYSP CONSOLE0009 00775078 EXCLUSIVEOWN SYSP CONSOLE0009 00785400 EXCLUSIVEWAIT SYSP CONSOLE

Re: class C3 commands taking long

2014-02-24 Thread Jake anderson
This looks to be similar to your issue : http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1OA18994 On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 4:02 PM, baby eklavya baby.ekla...@gmail.comwrote: ISG343I 17.28.56 GRS STATUS 866 S=SYSTEM SYSZMCS ROUTE-GROUP--CNID SYSNAMEJOBNAME ASID TCBADDR

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-24 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 18:15:07 +1100 Wayne Bickerdike wayn...@gmail.com wrote: :ASM to PL/I should be quite simple. :PL3 becomes FIXED DEC(3,0) etc. Not (5,?) ? :CL6 becomes CHAR(6), : :BL1 becomes BIT(8) (I think) : : : : :On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Ron Thomas ron5...@gmail.com

Re: class C3 commands taking long

2014-02-24 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
baby eklavya wrote: ISG343I 17.28.56 GRS STATUS 866 S=SYSTEM SYSZMCS ROUTE-GROUP--CNID SYSNAMEJOBNAME ASID TCBADDR EXC/SHRSTATUS SYSP CONSOLE0009 00775078 EXCLUSIVEOWN SYSP CONSOLE0009 00785400 EXCLUSIVEWAIT Hmm,

Re: S0C2 in DB2 application program (was Stored Procedure) IFF run from a PDSE

2014-02-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In aa6ff5ba011f44418bf62c515f71757d21bed...@ch2wpexch1.na.ds.ussco.com, on 02/21/2014 at 07:58 PM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com said: We think we have a diagnosis; waiting for the programmer to compile/link the suggested change and verify operation. If resolved, I'll post the diagnosis we

Re: CamelCase Field Names (Was: Re: HLASM continuation...)

2014-02-24 Thread Peter Relson
Rats, sorry. Meant for assembler-list. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: CamelCase Field Names (Was: Re: HLASM continuation...)

2014-02-24 Thread Peter Relson
The DSECTs have improved greatly in recent years, but the executed macro-language statements are often plain wrong, Examples, please? We're unlikely to correct something that we don't know is broken. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design

Re: Curious observation: lack of a simple optimization in a C program

2014-02-24 Thread Peter Relson
SLR R0,R0 IC R1,0(,R1) CHI R1,=H'13' BNE ... Ignoring that this is lousy code (unless, perhaps, the value is looked at again, in which case having it in a reg could be advantageous), I hope that this was a slightly incomplete snippet, or a typo; R1 needs to be zeroed for the IC/CHI, not

Re: Convert Tcp/IP translate tables from binary to source

2014-02-24 Thread גדי בן אבי
It's not perfect (I see the lowercase letter e between the entries), but it's something I can work with. Thanks. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Godfrey Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 12:26 PM To:

Re: Why does a dataset that should never migrate does occassionally (hsm)

2014-02-24 Thread David Devine
Hi Mike, i think you have 2 basic problems. The first is that primary days in your mgmtclas definition is set to blank, and as far as hsm is concerned, the default is 2 days if there is no entry. Which leads onto the second problem, and it looks like your job scheduler allocates but does not

Re: Convert Tcp/IP translate tables from binary to source

2014-02-24 Thread Bill Godfrey
Out of curiosity, exactly where do you see the lowercase letter e? Is it on a separate line, or between the hex numbers on each line? Or are you referring to the file produced by CONVXLAT? I tested it with TCIP.STANDARD.TCPXLBIN, and it looks ok on my system. I also ran CONVXLAT with the

Re: Convert Tcp/IP translate tables from binary to source

2014-02-24 Thread גדי בן אבי
I see the e in the first character on every line and then between each pair of hex characters The first line looks like this: e00e01e02e03e37e2De2Ee2Fe16e05e25e0Be0Ce0De0Ee0F Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of

Re: Curious observation: lack of a simple optimization in a C program

2014-02-24 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com wrote: SLR R0,R0 IC R1,0(,R1) CHI R1,=H'13' BNE ... Ignoring that this is lousy code (unless, perhaps, the value is looked at again, in which case having it in a reg could be advantageous), I hope that this was a slightly

Re: Convert Tcp/IP translate tables from binary to source

2014-02-24 Thread Bill Godfrey
I was able to reproduce your problem with the e characters. If this command (which is what I wrote): od -An -tx1 -j256 xlbin_2 | tr -s ' ' tcpx_2 was entered with an e after the quotes, like this: od -An -tx1 -j256 xlbin_2 | tr -s ' ' e tcpx_2 or with a string beginning with e, like this:

Re: DFSort support for REXX E15?

2014-02-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 07:35:10 +, Martin Packer wrote: I think the original question was about using REXX in an E15 exit (or equivalently an E35). This is something I've contemplated doing in the past but the required machinery is beyond me (or at least my patience). :-) I'm also not sure

Re: z/OS 1.9 under z/VM 6.3 on zBC12

2014-02-24 Thread Mark Jacobs
I've got a few comments on this question/response; 1) WLM under zOS 1.9 isn't going to recognize any processor later than an z196, so you might have some interesting decisions made by it. 2) If you're using ICSF, it might not recognize CryptoExpress 4 cards. 3) Depending on your ISV software

Re: S0C2 in DB2 application program (was Stored Procedure) IFF run from a PDSE

2014-02-24 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Chase, John -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mike Bell the first thing to check would be entry point - a non-zero entry point is one of the easiest things to loose

Re: S0C2 in DB2 application program (was Stored Procedure) IFF run from a PDSE

2014-02-24 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote: snip We'd still like to know why loading the program from a PDSE apparently changed how (and more importantly, where) the system passed the PARM= string. -jc- I would consider this explanation to be unlikely. The

Re: Curious observation: lack of a simple optimization in a C program

2014-02-24 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
john.archie.mck...@gmail.com (John McKown) writes: Wasn't there something about a PASCAL programmer knowing the value of everything and the Wirth of nothing? two people from the Los Gatos VLSI lab originally did mainframe pascal for VLSI chip tools ... this goes on eventually to become the

Re: S0C2 in DB2 application program (was Stored Procedure) IFF run from a PDSE

2014-02-24 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John McKown On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote: snip We'd still like to know why loading the program from a PDSE apparently changed how (and more importantly, where) the

MIH Setting for DS8100/DS8300

2014-02-24 Thread Herring, Bobby
We randomly run into a problem where DFDSS Flashcopy gets an ADR935W error. Looking at the return/reason codes, it says it was unable to complete an establish request because of the request being canceled by system Missing Interrupt Handler (MIH) processing. We found that the output device on

Re: Curious observation: lack of a simple optimization in a C program

2014-02-24 Thread John McKown
Again, my thanks to all for the help, which was my fault in not realizing that I had used the -o switch instead of the -O switch and so was not having my code optimized. On the off chance that anybody was wondering why I was doing this, it was just a test to try to determine the best way to see

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4528858360446052.wa.ron5174gmail@listserv.ua.edu, on 02/23/2014 at 11:23 AM, Ron Thomas ron5...@gmail.com said: Hello. I am new to assembler so not sure whether i am asking the right query? We have a assembler copybook and the corresponding file is a VSAM KSDS. I'm not sure what you

Re: Optimization, CPU time, and related issues

2014-02-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1068899486.316495.1393186164299.javamail.r...@comcast.net, on 02/23/2014 at 08:09 PM, DASDBILL2 dasdbi...@comcast.net said: Just for future reference, since the name of this list-server is IBM Mainframe Discussion List, what particular IBM systems, other than System/360 and its descendants,

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In cahtjz9lpe6q2ades818nb0a1pd1v3o2a27_7ktkptr3ctdo...@mail.gmail.com, on 02/24/2014 at 06:15 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wayn...@gmail.com said: ASM to PL/I should be quite simple. PL3 becomes FIXED DEC(3,0) etc. WTF? PL3 is 24 bits; that's 5 digits and a sign. Why would it not be DEC(5)? --

Re: S0C2 in DB2 application program (was Stored Procedure) IFF run from a PDSE

2014-02-24 Thread Jim Mulder
We'd still like to know why loading the program from a PDSE apparently changed how (and more importantly, where) the system passed the PARM= string. PDSEs are 4K page oriented, so when loaded, they are generally going to start at a 4K boundary. When loading from a PDS, fetch processing

Re: Optimization, CPU time, and related issues

2014-02-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 09:00:43 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: on 02/23/2014 at 08:09 PM, DASDBILL2 said: Just for future reference, since the name of this list-server is IBM Mainframe Discussion List, what particular IBM�systems, other than System/360 and its descendants, are also called

Re: MIH Setting for DS8100/DS8300

2014-02-24 Thread Ron Hawkins
Bobby, From our default IEAIOSnn member. MIH DASD=01:00 HYPERPAV=YES ZHPF=YES Individual addresses can be used to override these values. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Herring, Bobby Sent:

Re: S0C2 in DB2 application program (was Stored Procedure) IFF run from a PDSE

2014-02-24 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jim Mulder We'd still like to know why loading the program from a PDSE apparently changed how (and more importantly, where) the system passed the PARM= string. PDSEs are 4K page oriented, so when loaded,

Re: class C3 commands taking long

2014-02-24 Thread Andy Higgins
I've seen that happen issuing a lot of ROUTE commands from a batch job when the response of the command being routed was suppressed. Try adding T=0 to your ROUTE commands. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Optimization, CPU time, and related issues

2014-02-24 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) writes: Surely, when comparing technologies hardware and software from other vendors should not be considered off-charter. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#62 Optimization, CPU time, and related issues http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#64

Re: S0C2 in DB2 application program (was Stored Procedure) IFF run from a PDSE

2014-02-24 Thread John McKown
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2E2B0/31.6 quote | *VSM* *USEZOSV1R9RULES(NO|YES)* | YES causes GETMAIN and STORAGE OBTAIN behavior to be unchanged from | its historic behavior. NO causes GETMAIN and STORAGE OBTAIN behavior | for user-region private area subpools that

Re: Curious observation: lack of a simple optimization in a C program

2014-02-24 Thread Tony Harminc
On 24 February 2014 10:44, Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com wrote: two people from the Los Gatos VLSI lab originally did mainframe pascal for VLSI chip tools ... this goes on eventually to become the vs/pascal product. Amoung other things it was used to implement the original mainframe

Re: Curious observation: lack of a simple optimization in a C program

2014-02-24 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
t...@harminc.net (Tony Harminc) writes: You've mentioned this a number of times, but I don't think you've explained what you did to the Pascal code to get a 500x improvement. Was the original code exceptionally bad, was your new code exceptionally brilliant, did you take advantage of some

Re: DFSort support for REXX E15?

2014-02-24 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Martin, Thanks for clarifying what OP really wanted. Binaymin Dissen, Here are the answers to your questions. Q.it is sad that DFSORT does not support the alternate DDNAME parameter). Answer : DFSORT indeed supports alternate DDnames with option SORTDD. SORTDD= Specifies a four-character

Re: SOURCEID (again)

2014-02-24 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
SMP/E releases before V3R5 cannot process the MCS input that is developed specifically for V3R5, nor can they process data in the SMPCSI data set. In SMP/E V3R4, if your SOURCEID value meets either of the following conditions, a message is shown to indicate that your operand contains a value that

Re: SOURCEID (again)

2014-02-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 14:13:04 -0500, Kurt Quackenbush wrote: Why oh why are you asking questions about this old stuff? All currently supported releases of SMP/E and z/OS support long sourceids. The last release of z/OS that only tolerated long sourceids was V1.9 (contained SMP/E V3.4), which

Re: Curious observation: lack of a simple optimization in a C program

2014-02-24 Thread Bob Shannon
Was the original code exceptionally bad, was your new code exceptionally brilliant, When I worked on Strobe we saw this all of the time. One shop saw job runtime drop from 24 hours to eight minutes. We could only wonder what they had done in the first place. Bob Shannon Ex-Programart

DSLIST block commands [was: Deleting multiple data sets]

2014-02-24 Thread Neil Duffee
Woo Hoo, Elardus! After all these years of griping about having to use an X on many lines of DSLIST results, you've pointed out my lack of investigation. //X ... // works beautifully! Tks *very* much. signature = 6 lines follows Neil Duffee, Joe Sysprog, uOttawa, Ottawa,

Re: Convert Tcp/IP translate tables from binary to source

2014-02-24 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi Bill, I see the problem, It looks like the exit oget 'tcpx_2' tcpx2 lines were concatinated to the end of the od command. Since I wasn't sure what was being done, I just copied and pasted. I will try again tommorow, and see what happpens. Thanks for your help Gadi

Re: S0C2 in DB2 application program (was Stored Procedure) IFF run from a PDSE

2014-02-24 Thread DASDBILL2
Excellent forensics.  And thanks for the detailed explanation. Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: John Chase jch...@ussco.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 9:02:54 AM Subject: Re: S0C2 in DB2 application program (was Stored Procedure) IFF run

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-24 Thread DASDBILL2
Your guess is correct.  Copybook is the way most Assembler programmers for DOS/360 or VSE systems pronounce DSECT. Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 7:53:29 AM

Re: Curious observation: lack of a simple optimization in a C program

2014-02-24 Thread David Crayford
I bet if you timed it the strchr() TRT in a loop is faster. On 25/02/2014, at 12:19 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: Again, my thanks to all for the help, which was my fault in not realizing that I had used the -o switch instead of the -O switch and so was not having my

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-24 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
It would be DEC(5) I'm sure he'll work through this without taking everything literally. An ISPF edit macro could easily do the job CHANGE ALL PL3 FIXED DEC(5,0) ; etc.. On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 1:13 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In

Re: Curious observation: lack of a simple optimization in a C program

2014-02-24 Thread Charles Mills
As I posted recently in another thread, I certainly appreciate the intellectual challenge etc., etc. of finding the absolute fastest way of performing some machine function. However, I hope you realize that in real life the exact speed of TRT versus SRST is going to be dwarfed by the cost of

Re: Convert Tcp/IP translate tables from binary to source

2014-02-24 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi Bill, I found the problem, and now the od command is producing the correct output. Thanks for your help Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Godfrey Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 3:32 PM To:

Re: z/OS 1.9 under z/VM 6.3 on zBC12

2014-02-24 Thread Brian Westerman
They are not trying to run on the hardware directly, they are asking about running under z/VM as a guest. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with

Re: z/OS 1.9 under z/VM 6.3 on zBC12

2014-02-24 Thread Jose Munoz
Brian, We don't have z/VM, we will use only for the migration in case to be required. You must tell me what will be the best migration path with or w/o z/VM. biut an the end we can remove z/VM or keepit, depends of the solution and if it's necessary. On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Brian

List sysmods applied on a certain date

2014-02-24 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi, Is it possible to lis all sysmods (ptfs) applied on a certain date, or during a date range? Thanks Gadi לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי חברת מלם מערכות בעמ ו/או כל חברת בת ו/או חברה קשורה שלה (להלן : החברה) וזכויות החתימה בהן, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה,