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On Behalf Of Shane Ginnane
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 12:47 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SORT JCL
Thanks a lot Kolsu.. It worked. Thanks!
Now that this has finally
Ed Gould wrote:
As to ddlist and dslist, I am not familiar with those. Perhaps they are in
house???
I think it is ISRDDN before it was made available and documented.
(dslist - not to be confused with listds)
But of course, I may be wrong... If so, please correct me...
Groete / Greetings
Thomas Berg wrote:
Well, we just have to look at DFSORT as a programming language - with what
follows. OTOH, what it does it does very fast and efficient so it's worth the
effort to learn it IMHO.
Indeed. Look at my JCL for SMF record 89 I posted sometime ago on IBM-MAIN.
In the past, I
Thanks for doing IBM's documentation for them. g
I'm sure we all thank the posters for the clarifications and suggestions,
but better would be for this information to be sent in by you as a
suggestion.
It is rarely helpful just to say that a section is bad (or to complain
only in this venue),
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 06:36:45 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
I still find it amazing that DFSORT can handle VB datasets and put results
into a FB dataset. That alone enabled me to discard undocumented, but slow
programs which do that same trick.
I customarily use IDCAMS REPRO for that
On 2014-09-16, at 02:32, R.S. wrote:
Question: what is the proper purpose of IEFBR14?
IMHO this is the only use of IEFBR14 by the users. OK, maybe some tricks with
CONDs, but it's marginal.
Somtimes because it's the only way to conditionally suppress
execution of the first step in a job
On 2014-09-15, at 22:40, Ed Gould wrote:
On Sep 15, 2014, at 10:57 PM, Ed Gould wrote:
-SNIP__
editor, but AFAIK there isn't one out there(anyone know of one?)
nedit.
Hello,
I have 2 separate DB2 systems on the same lpar.
For accessing them, I have the datasets added to my ispf command proc.
Cuurently, I have to logoff and logon with a different logon / command proc
to access the other DB2 system.
I would like to access both DB2 systems from the same logon
On Sep 16, 2014, at 6:05 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
Ed Gould wrote:
The nightly production meeting was held and I had to get up and
explain WTF had happened and how I fixed it. There was a grizzled
old female first sergeant that didn't like my explanation as she
knew everything.
In my userid.CLIST(SIGNON), I have these lines at the bottom:
WRITENR TO ALLOCATE DB2 LIBRARIES - P=PROD, T=TEST(G,H), N=NONE:
READ ANS
IF ANS = N THEN EXIT
WRITE STARTING DB2ALLOC CLIST
IF ANS = T THEN DB2ALOCT
IF ANS = P THEN DB2ALLOC
To change, type LOGONGO at the ready
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On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:07 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Deleting Cluster Using IEFBR14 or IDCAMS
On 2014-09-16, at 02:32, R.S. wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 16:22:06 +0200, Thomas Berg wrote:
Sometimes less clearly as NOT CATALOGUED 2.
I HATE that one.(That it allocates it as non-catalogued. Can it happen
anymore, BTW ? Was a long time ago...)
Non-SMS? I believe there's an option. PARMLIB?
-- gil
Ed Gould wrote:
In the Army you weren't supposed to question (her) authority.
Ops. No firing squad for you? ;-)
No... I had to go up two floors to the commanding officer and explain it to
him, which I did, but I used nicer language :)
Ouch! I think most IBM-MAIN members would also use
Freaking pedants. You all know the base is still MVS.
I know it's a sport to some, but it would sure be nice if every damn thing
didn't have to be argued and picked apart.
Steven F. Conway, CISSP
AO-DTS- CTHO-HSD INFRASTRUCTURE (INFR)
z/OS Systems Support
Phone: 703-295-1926
Mobile:
looking for the like button.
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Of Steve Conway
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:42 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: MVS
Freaking pedants. You all know the base is
Are you using the DB2 ISPF option that is provided? Or are you doing something
else.
The DB2I panel has a function to select the DB2 SSID you want to access.
Typically DB2 is accessed with the SSID. Unless you have a modified ISPF
environment for DB2.
As I recall, you will need to STEPLIB
I would check out Thomas Conley's Dynamic ISPF process on the CBTTAPE.ORG
File #495.
If you question is beyond DB2, that you want to access ISPF functions more
dynamically, this is where you can start.
If it is just DB2, then IDUG.ORG is a good place to check the archives.
Lizette
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Shane Ginnane
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 07:25:10 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
Can't we forget MVS (that's *so* 20th Century), and talk instead about
z/OS, which is the topic of the Redbook (see URL)?
Nope.
Up to,
John Chase wrote:
z/OS is a package. MVS is just an operating system that's included in
z/OS.
What he said. I'm as pedantic as the next guy (well, not if the next guy is
some of the people on this list) but there are times when MVS is the correct
term. Especially (but not only) when
allan.stal...@kbmg.com (Staller, Allan) writes:
z/VM solved the nested paging issue the late 80's. Usually by making
the guest image so large that paging never became an issue.
There was also the preferred guest feature.
The problem was worse than you can ever imagine. I pontificated a lot
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:25:50 -0700, Phil Smith wrote:
John Chase wrote:
z/OS is a package. MVS is just an operating system that's included in
z/OS.
What he said. I'm as pedantic as the next guy (well, not if the next guy is
some of the people on this list) but there are times when MVS is the
On 9/16/2014 8:58 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
My point, perhaps made too subtly, was Ed G's apparent stubborn refusal
to admit the existence of z/OS. But even so, Unix System Services (Ed called
it the 'others') existed as far back as MVS (not z/OS) 5.2.2 or earlier..
IIRC, OpenEdition MVS (aka
FYI:
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2683239/ibm-cuts-pay-by-10-for-workers-picked-for-training.html
DJ
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FYI:
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The + sign indicates that there is additional info available, but I can not get
that info.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion
z/OS is now clearly an umbrella term, only definable ostensively and
comprised of a proper subset of the technologies that are executable
on z/Architecture machines.
These technologies have, in general, little else in common. I am
reminded of the elements of one of Borges's sets:
{suckling
LISTBC may be getting run by your logon proc or some such, which makes
getting additional info difficult. Once you're logged on, try typing
LISTBC yourself. ? should work then.
.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
Hi Folks,
The program IDCMSGEN from CBT File 360 (Wisconsin State Wilson
Street computing center) creates DEFINE cards to redefine an existing
VSAM dataset. The program does so, by generating a LISTC report
internally, and then scraping that report for information, in order to
format the
First, I'm not in the TCP-L group. Second this is a general question regarding
the behavior of the z/OS
FTP client. Third, I do not read every IBM manual cover to cover and commit to
memory. In this case,
I should have done number three.
We are running z/OS 1.13. Executing the FTP client
That is not FTP only behavior. Try concatenating an empty dataset in any
utility, and any data after the empty dataset is ignored.
_
Dave Jousma
Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering
david.jou...@53.com
1830 East Paris,
I did. I tried IEBGENER (ICEGENER for us) and CoZ's SFTP. Both processed the
entire concatenation.
--- david.jou...@53.com wrote:
From: Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: z/OS FTP client behavior
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014
Are you thinking perhaps of a DUMMY dataset rather than an empty dataset?
Charles
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Sorry, you are correct. I confused myself. The actions I described is when DD
DUMMY is in the middle of a concatenation
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Dave Jousma
Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering
david.jou...@53.com
1830 East Paris, Grand
Yes.
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In 8348187731951949.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
09/15/2014
at 01:54 PM, Paul Gilmartin
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:
Perhaps even worse, nested paging.
AFAIK, PR/SM is strictly V=F, so no paging.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
File 528 on the CBT has my version of something similar.
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Sam Golob sbgo...@cbttape.org wrote:
Hi Folks,
The program IDCMSGEN from CBT File 360 (Wisconsin State Wilson Street
computing center) creates DEFINE cards to redefine an existing VSAM dataset.
The
In 8003041207513935.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
09/15/2014
at 06:15 PM, Paul Gilmartin
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:
(ISPF for CMS allows a choice of PDF or XEDIT
although 2 is not one of the only three nice numbers. ISPF for
z/OS allows no such
Still private?
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On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 9:03 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: EZANS Requirement
This was posted on the TCPIP List
See the RFE
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 15:12:21 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
at 01:54 PM, Paul Gilmartin said:
Perhaps even worse, nested paging.
AFAIK, PR/SM is strictly V=F, so no paging.
And how is that relevant to the OP's question about VM guests?
(Well, z/OS LPARs under z/VM is sort of a
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 15:22:12 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
(ISPF for CMS allows a choice of PDF or XEDIT
although 2 is not one of the only three nice numbers. ISPF for
z/OS allows no such flexibility
Yes it does. I'm not sure why you would want to, unless someone has
ported XEDIT to
Peter -
Thank you.
We have disagreed on this point before but let me say again that if a
customer of mine posted here that my product's documentation was lacking in
some particular area I would thank them, not tell them that they had told me
in the wrong way.
Yes, I quoted only a portion of the
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 11:40:58 -0700, Richard Pinion wrote:
To prevent transferring data from an empty file, FTP checks whether the first
file in a concatenation series is empty and allocates an empty data set. No
data is transferred.
Morons. Obsessive-compulsive morons. The test is otiose.
Yup. Over-engineering. Over-validation. Like examining a filename to see if it
is syntactically valid rather than just passing it to the OS's open function
and seeing if it works for the OS.
Charles
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
We are looking for (in addition to the SMP/e contractor) a full-time
salaried z/OS pre-sales person. Here are part of the qualifications/job
description. Further details on request:
We are looking for a person to install and support our mainframe software
offerings. Requirements are
In
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 13:29:57 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
Yup. Over-engineering. Over-validation. Like examining a filename to see if it
is syntactically valid rather than just passing it to the OS's open function
and seeing if it works for the OS.
With the annoying consequence that if someone
Perhaps I'll submit an RCF.
You are a kind soul.
Charles
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 2:36 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Emptiness (was: z/OS FTP client
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 11:40:58 -0700, Richard Pinion wrote:
First, I'm not in the TCP-L group. Second this is a general question
regarding the behavior of the z/OS
FTP client. Third, I do not read every IBM manual cover to cover and commit to
memory. In this case,
I should have done number
In ea1e439b-1f07-415c-928f-367daa81e...@comcast.net, on 09/16/2014
at 05:17 AM, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net said:
I had to get up and explain WTF had happened and how I fixed it.
Is that like explaining how to ride a bicycle. That is, did it take 20
times longer to explain than to do?
In 7f788686-4633-42d3-813b-09a0abccb...@comcast.net, on 09/16/2014
at 08:46 AM, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net said:
On Sep 16, 2014, at 6:05 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
Ed Gould wrote:
The nightly production meeting was held and I had to get up and
explain WTF had happened and how
In 4924742431039275.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
09/16/2014
at 10:58 AM, Paul Gilmartin
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:
My point, perhaps made too subtly, was Ed G's apparent stubborn
refusal to admit the existence of z/OS. But even so, Unix System
Services
Getting this error:
CEE3596S An MVS load of module FBHDLRB failed. The system abend code was
0306; the reason code was 000C.
FBHDLRB is a COBOL user handler that we've specified.
Options Report for Enclave main 09/16/14 5:27:02 PM
Language Environment V01
Forgot a couple of items (always get anxious and hit send too soon!).
z/OS 1.13
The actual program that is executing is the FTP client. It runs fine, it's
only when the system attempts to load the user handler at termination where the
issue occurs.
You may be wondering why we'd run a user
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 15:50:55 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
BTW, how do people feel about components that have the same FMID in
consecutive releases? On balance I believe that IBM is doing the right
thing there, but there are minuses.
Which are they doing? If it's the same thing it
http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r11/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r11.ieah700/h7scc.htm
snippet ---
306
Explanation:
The error occurred during processing of a LINK(X), XCTL(X), ATTACH(X),
or LOAD macro.
An incorrect load to global request was attempted, or the authorized
routine
Hmm, not sure why my search didn't turn up that 306 code. I find it now. I
wonder why we've not seen this issue before . Or perhaps this person is the
first to notice it.
Thanks for the help!
Frank
From: George Young gmyo...@windstream.net
To:
Does this count?
“There's just something obvious about emptiness, even when you try to convince
yourself otherwise.”
― Sarah Dessen, Lock and Key
Charles
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Sent:
Seymour:
There was a bit of discussion offline about SPF and its origins, Can
you shed some of your knowledge from whence it came?
Ed
On Sep 16, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In 60d89285-3b33-4d1a-b667-ea5f868c5...@comcast.net, on 09/16/2014
at 12:14 AM, Ed Gould
On Sep 16, 2014, at 2:34 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In ea1e439b-1f07-415c-928f-367daa81e...@comcast.net, on 09/16/2014
at 05:17 AM, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net said:
I had to get up and explain WTF had happened and how I fixed it.
Is that like explaining how to ride a
On Sep 16, 2014, at 2:44 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In 7f788686-4633-42d3-813b-09a0abccb...@comcast.net, on 09/16/2014
at 08:46 AM, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net said:
On Sep 16, 2014, at 6:05 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
Ed Gould wrote:
The nightly production meeting
Paul:
It wasn't stubbornness so much I find getting on in my age I try not
to ramble with long names that everybody understands (except for
maybe you) and trying to keep things sharp and focused. I don't have
enough time to go on about every option or (OS) there is. When you
floated the
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 13:29:57 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
Yup. Over-engineering. Over-validation. Like examining a filename to see if it
is syntactically valid rather than just passing it to the OS's open function
and seeing if it works for the OS.
There's a partial and mostly unsatisfactory
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