Re: AW: Re: How to find which task has been denied to take a dump?

2015-01-17 Thread Jim Mulder
But if the event happened, is there a way to find out what it was. The slip, I think, would only be helpful if you were anticipating the IEA848I. Or is the fact this could happen lead one to always have a slip set for IEA848I in case it happens? ;-D The original poster indicated that

Re: z13 new(?) characteristics from RedBook

2015-01-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 54b8fa04026d0017e...@prv-mh.provo.novell.com, on 01/16/2015 at 09:46 AM, Mark Post mp...@suse.com said: You'll need to be a little more verbose. What about error recovery? Does KVM on a bare LPAR have code to recover from I/O, memory and processor failures? Does it have code to record

coding standards (was: Re: abend S602-0 when in AMODE 64)

2015-01-17 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Same rule at my recent site; with new PL/1, it is even possible to make all STATIC definitions NONASSIGNABLE by default, so that you have to code STATIC ASGN, if you want a STATIC variable to be ASSIGNABLE. Often the PL/1 knowledge is dramatically limited by the site standards of the site

use of STATIC storage (was: Re: abend S602-0 when in AMODE 64)

2015-01-17 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
At my recent site, we wanted all programs to be naturally reentrant for several reasons ... no matter, if PL/1, ASSEMBLER, or C. With the old compilers, we achieved this by telling the developers that the STATIC variables must not be changed during execution. We had some test systems that

Re: AW: Re: How to find which task has been denied to take a dump?

2015-01-17 Thread Jim Mulder
For IEA848I it says The question was how to find the task that triggered the message because it is not authorized. It is more general and not restricted to this specific message: How to find the task related with a message if ther is no jobid? SLIP

Re: AW: Re: How to find which task has been denied to take a dump?

2015-01-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
But if the event happened, is there a way to find out what it was. The slip, I think, would only be helpful if you were anticipating the IEA848I. Or is the fact this could happen lead one to always have a slip set for IEA848I in case it happens? ;-D Lizette -Original Message- From:

Re: z13 new(?) characteristics from RedBook

2015-01-17 Thread Mark Post
On 1/17/2015 at 06:37 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In 54b8fa04026d0017e...@prv-mh.provo.novell.com, on 01/16/2015 at 09:46 AM, Mark Post mp...@suse.com said: You'll need to be a little more verbose. What about error recovery? Does KVM on a bare

Re: AW: Re: How to find which task has been denied to take a dump?

2015-01-17 Thread Tony Harminc
On 17 January 2015 at 17:02, Jim Mulder d10j...@us.ibm.com wrote: For IEA848I it says The question was how to find the task that triggered the message because it is not authorized. It is more general and not restricted to this specific message: How to find the task related with a message

Re: z13 new(?) characteristics from RedBook

2015-01-17 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 17:05:15 -0700, Mark Post wrote: So, we don't just do z/VM, KVM, or LPARs, we do them all. Thank you Mark, nice synopsis of what's do-able. Now, if I can just find a customer that would do likewise ... ;-) Shane ...

Re: Compile COBOL Programs In 64 Bit.

2015-01-17 Thread Steve Thompson
Mehrshad: No, you do not understand. I was answering Tom on why COBOL should be made to have access to data above the bar (2GB address range) now, not later. That a COBOL program can't execute in the area above 2GB is a completely different issue. Regards, Steve Thompson On 01/17/2015

Console Mode in zOS 1.13

2015-01-17 Thread Dno
Hi, We are migrating to zOS 1.13 and in COMMNDxx I have a SETCON MODE=DISTRIBUTED. What is the difference between MODE=DISTRIBUTED and MODE=SHARED? There are two systems in the sysplex, having the 1.13 system with DISTRIBUTED and the 1.11 system with SHARED cause any issue? Thank you, Dean

Re: How to find which task has been denied to take a dump?

2015-01-17 Thread Peter Hunkeler
SLIP SET,A=SVCD,MSGID=IEA848I,ML=1,ID=M848,END Thanks, Jim, this confirms to me there is no way to find out from the operlog, only. I got this request long after the IPL from our second level. I have not yet looked if it happens regularly. First, I was interested to find out if I'm missing

AW: abend S602-0 when in AMODE 64

2015-01-17 Thread Peter Hunkeler
I'd say that it is C that confused static with constant. Humans would think of static data as being constant (at least constant once loaded). Writeable static is, to me, an oxymoron. Static is just one of the terms used with computing that is being used with different meanings. When I

AW: Re: AW: Re: SMF RDW

2015-01-17 Thread Peter Hunkeler
If I have insulted you, please accept my apology, You have not. It takes much more to do so ;-) but like many IBM-MAIN members, I try to help for free and when I have time. So do I, and I have spent and still do spend much time working with IBM-MAIN anf other lists. And I have

Re: abend S602-0 when in AMODE 64

2015-01-17 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
all languages: static vs. auto: different allocation technique and time, as already explained; static: allocated once, lifetime of the variable is the whole process auto: allocated on every call of the proc or function, removed at the end in C: keyword static to denote static variables, no

Re: Logger Space

2015-01-17 Thread Nick Jones
You don't want to 3.4 delete the data sets, this may cause logger to think the log stream is damaged. You'll want to evaluate what is in the log streams and archive the data appropriately. See z/OS MVS Setting Up a Sysplex (SA23-1399), Planning for system logger applications, Deleting log

Re: abend S602-0 when in AMODE 64

2015-01-17 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Bernd Oppolzer wrote: static vs. auto: different allocation technique and time, as already explained; static: allocated once, lifetime of the variable is the whole process auto: allocated on every call of the proc or function, removed at the end [ ... snipped ... ] Thanks for your informative

Re: abend S602-0 when in AMODE 64

2015-01-17 Thread John Gilmore
PL/I provides the storage class controlled for implementing anchors and the like in reentrant routines. C and its sequelæ did/do not, and this lacuna led to the need for such uglinesses as writable static. -- John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

How to find which task has been denied to take a dump?

2015-01-17 Thread Peter Hunkeler
In the OPERLOG, I see the following messages while system CH02PROD is being shutdown for IPL (more messages in context further down): N 002 CH02PROD 14333 08:01:23.54 0281 IEA848I DUMP SUPPRESSED - USER NOT AUTHORIZED BY SAF N 000 CH02PROD 14333 08:01:23.54

AW: Re: abend S602-0 when in AMODE 64

2015-01-17 Thread Peter Hunkeler
static NEVER means constant Yip. I believe all wannabee programmers should learn this fact. How difficult can it be to be understand? Difficult, if you start as a trainee at a company that decided to force that all STATIC variables be set to NONASSINGABLE. They very much look like

Re: How to find which task has been denied to take a dump?

2015-01-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
For IEA848I it says For USER NOT AUTHORIZED, the security authority can be changed to allow the application programmer to get the necessary dump by permitting the user to have READ or UPDATE access to the IEAABD.DMPAUTH facility as described in the z/OS Security Server RACF Security

Re: Logger Space

2015-01-17 Thread Rob Schramm
Just delete the log stream using the utility and then redefine it. Rob Schramm On Jan 17, 2015 9:34 AM, Nick Jones nrjo...@us.ibm.com wrote: You don't want to 3.4 delete the data sets, this may cause logger to think the log stream is damaged. You'll want to evaluate what is in the log

Re: How to find which task has been denied to take a dump?

2015-01-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
The other area I found of interest: IGW467I DFSMS RlsAboveTheBarMaxPoolSize 414 D 414 0090 PARMLIB VALUE CHANGED ON SYSTEM: **ALL** D 414 0090 OLD

Re: Logger Space

2015-01-17 Thread Robert Hahne
Mark , Since you are looking at deleting orphaned logstream datasets , neither TSO delete or deleting the logstream is going to work Ane excerpt from MVS setting up a sysplex - Finding and deleting orphaned log data sets says , The orphaned data sets should be deleted using the IDCAMS delete

Re: abend S602-0 when in AMODE 64

2015-01-17 Thread John Gilmore
In PL/I---Things are very different in toy languages like C---the only legitimate use for static variables is as constants initialized in their declarations and never altered thereafter. In PL/I it is also possible to declare and use scalar constants. Thus declare pi static binary float(53)

AW: Re: How to find which task has been denied to take a dump?

2015-01-17 Thread Peter Hunkeler
For IEA848I it says For USER NOT AUTHORIZED, the security authority can be changed to allow ... Thanks for the various tips, Lizette. I'm aware of the FACILITY profile. I'll have to think about UACC(READ). The question was how to find the task that triggered the message because it is