> On Dec 14, 2016, at 5:59 PM, John Eells wrote:
>
> Password protection of catalogs has not been supported for some time now.
> The current AMS book says:
>
> "Passwords are no longer honored for protecting a catalog, or data sets
> contained in a catalog. If they are specified, they will be
> On Dec 14, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht
> wrote:
>
> Warning! Edward and I am now hijacking this thread to discuss something very
> odd/fishy... ;-D
>
> :-D *-D ;-D
>
> Edward Gould wrote:
>
>> Thirty + years ago (pre-RACF) we put update password on the mastercats.
>> Worked l
On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 18:59:22 -0500, John Eells wrote:
>
>"Passwords are no longer honored for protecting a catalog, or data sets
>contained in a catalog. If they are specified, they will be ignored and
>no message will be issued. Previously, passwords were ignored only for
>SMS-managed data sets.
Password protection of catalogs has not been supported for some time
now. The current AMS book says:
"Passwords are no longer honored for protecting a catalog, or data sets
contained in a catalog. If they are specified, they will be ignored and
no message will be issued. Previously, password
> On Dec 14, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Edward Gould wrote:
>
> Thirty + years ago (pre-RACF) we put update password on the mastercats.
> Worked like a charm for us.
>
> Ed
>> On Dec 14, 2016, at 1:16 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht
>> wrote:
>>
>> Jesse Robinson wrote:
>>
>>> And once you have all protectio
Elardus Engelbrecht wrote, in part:
>Are you or they using quotes? Or are something inside SDSF customized like
>this panel ISFACM4 for example?
>Or, is your automation software capturing that command and then pass it to the
>system in lower case?
Jeez, I'm losing it. Yes, I meant the PARM part
Commands by and large do not need to be folded to uppercase because the SVC34 /
MGCR interface does a smart "fold" which honors quotation marks. I suspect the
immediate /cmd option knows not to mess with the command but the extended panel
is at the mercy of the ISPF uppercase panel option which
Well, "W Mainframe" is not exactly straightforward. Or if that's his or her
real name, I guess the career path was pretty much fore-ordained. Too bad Conor
wasn't named Conor Mainframe.
Charles
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On 14 December 2016 at 14:36, Tony Thigpen wrote:
> Do you really expect anybody to respond positively with such a hidden email
> address. I know where parts and running systems can be purchased, but you
> went to so much trouble to hide your identity that I can't give you the
> information.
That
I think the reason is "least astonishment." Why would anyone expect that saying
"put me in problem state" or "put me in key 0/my own key" would specifically
and intentionally preclude my ability to put myself in my own key?
Ain't gonna change now. Unless someone wants to do a requirement. (Not I
Phil Smith wrote:
>We have some fun yesterday: one of my team was having trouble with an operand
>being passed to an STC from SDSF on startup.
>After a bunch of "it works for me, I'm cutting & pasting what you're saying
>you're doing?!" we finally discovered that he was using the "System Comman
Hmm. I just did the classic d t from the /+ panel and it worked just fine:
RESPONSE= IEE136I LOCAL: TIME=13.45.48 DATE=2016.349 UTC:
RESPONSE=TIME=19.45.48 DATE=2016.349
Perhaps, in addition, some commands are case sensitive and some are not?
Perhaps quoted operands don't get upperca
Do you really expect anybody to respond positively with such a hidden
email address. I know where parts and running systems can be purchased,
but you went to so much trouble to hide your identity that I can't give
you the information.
Tony Thigpen
W Mainframe wrote on 12/14/2016 12:47 PM:
Gu
We have some fun yesterday: one of my team was having trouble with an operand
being passed to an STC from SDSF on startup.
After a bunch of "it works for me, I'm cutting & pasting what you're saying
you're doing?!" we finally discovered that he was using the "System Command
Extension" panel (th
On 14 December 2016 at 08:38, Peter Relson wrote:
> No it is not a bug. The "expectation" is incorrect. The updating of the
> PKM is fully documented and is what we wanted it to be.
I'm not saying it's a bug, but it feels immediately wrong for reasons
I'm having trouble articulating. I guess may
Warning! Edward and I am now hijacking this thread to discuss something very
odd/fishy... ;-D
:-D *-D ;-D
Edward Gould wrote:
>Thirty + years ago (pre-RACF) we put update password on the mastercats.
>Worked like a charm for us.
Passwords? Hmmm, my very first boss (now dead) used that, but
On 12/14/2016 10:29 AM, Tom Marchant wrote:
On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 10:00:19 -0800, Ed Jaffe wrote:
Obviously, this will need to be looked at if we ever move it above the
bar...
... or run AMODE 64.
If this module ever runs AMODE(64), all we need to do is change this:
OILH R15,X'8000'
On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 10:00:19 -0800, Ed Jaffe wrote:
>Obviously, this will need to be looked at if we ever move it above the
>bar...
... or run AMODE 64.
If I was to implement something like this now, I would build a 128-bit
PSW and use LPSWE.
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Thanks!
Charles
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On 12/14/2016 8:47 AM, Charles Mil
On 12/14/2016 8:47 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
Interesting. I have avoided going there, but perhaps I should.
The code (originally developed many, many years ago) builds and saves a
model left-half PSW at initialization time, thus allowing the actual
switch back to problem state and TCB key to b
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Good thought.
We try to avoid obstacles to quick POC installation, but that has merit.
Charles
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Interesting. I have avoided going there, but perhaps I should.
Charles
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Thanks.
We don't like "significantly slower" moves.
There are also pointers to update with CSG.
Charles
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I am not sure how much more efficient using a two MODESET SVCs to flip in and
out of Key0/Sup would be compared to a single PC-ss.
I would also advise to not use key0 for any of your application memory unless
absolutely necessary.
Have you considered a PPT entry for your jobstep program so tha
On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
> Well, yes, the why is to access shared 64-bit common.
>
> It's worked well for years. A PC service to move some data and increment a
> pointer (millions of times per hour) seemed like overkill.
>
> Charles
>
>
​Just talking out of my hat, w
On 12/14/2016 6:04 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
My only interest in using SPKA was to avoid having to use an SVC just to
effectively reduce my privileges (key 0 to key 8). The program does this
switch from key 8 to key 0 and back over a million times per hour per LPAR
at several locations. Using an
Well, yes, the why is to access shared 64-bit common.
It's worked well for years. A PC service to move some data and increment a
pointer (millions of times per hour) seemed like overkill.
Charles
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Try cycling HSM
Lizette
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> Subject: Re: HSM old tape cleanup
>
> Well, I tried the audit co
We got by our chpid problem resolved. We were able to perform an audit
for the bad tape.
Thanks.
Tony Thigpen
Tony Thigpen wrote on 12/14/2016 10:11 AM:
Well, I tried the audit command. Now I have a dead-lock situation.
I did not know that the command would attempt to read the old tape. The
3
You might look at SMF Record 92. It might help in this case.
Lizette
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Anyone using the Win7 NFS client with the z/OS NFS server, and if so, what
is the mount command to use to get to a file, say a PDS member?
Thanks,
Mark Regan
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Thirty + years ago (pre-RACF) we put update password on the mastercats.
Worked like a charm for us.
Ed
> On Dec 14, 2016, at 1:16 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht
> wrote:
>
> Jesse Robinson wrote:
>
>> And once you have all protections in place, remember that someone has to
>> have the key to master
Charles
I am struggling to understand why you would want to run key0 and problem state
anyway - it seems like a very strange brew and a bit of an oxymoron.
Another question - why do you need Key0 in the first place? Is it just to
access non-user key CSA ?
If you have code that is running 99.9%
Well, I tried the audit command. Now I have a dead-lock situation.
I did not know that the command would attempt to read the old tape. The
3490 drives and the chipid had been taken offline. Then the 3490 powered
down.
When I issued the command, HSM wants a 3490 tape drive I receive:
STC05537
On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Paul Gilmartin <
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 02:16:08 -0600, Baby Eklavya wrote:
> >
> >When working through omvs shell, our home has a .sh_history file that
> records what was done. But what if it is done from Ishel
On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 02:16:08 -0600, Baby Eklavya wrote:
>
>When working through omvs shell, our home has a .sh_history file that records
>what was done. But what if it is done from Ishell ? Do we have a similar place
>where we can see the history of what was done on Ishell ?
>
>Why I am asking t
People sometimes use "investment" (and its cognates) more loosely than a CPA
would.
Sales rep: "So your total investment in this software would be $86,500" -- in
spite of the fact that the company will probably expense the cost, not
capitalize it. "Investment" sounds so much better than "price"
W dniu 2016-12-14 o 15:27, Tom Marchant pisze:
On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 18:05:26 -0500, Gabe Goldberg wrote:
plans to hire about
25,000 people in the U.S. and invest $1 billion over the next four
years
Did anyone else notice this? If you hire 25,000 people and pay
them a $10,000 salary, that would
I don't think that the number ($1billion) and the number of hires are
necessarily related.
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FYI - Salary is not investment. Salary is an expense. Investment is money
spent generally on physical items, although it can be for R & D, which in the
world of software is 99.9% salary.
$10,000 doesn't get you a programmer in India, let alone in the USA which is
where they are saying they ar
On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 18:05:26 -0500, Gabe Goldberg wrote:
>plans to hire about
>25,000 people in the U.S. and invest $1 billion over the next four
>years
Did anyone else notice this? If you hire 25,000 people and pay
them a $10,000 salary, that would add up to $250 million per year,
or a billion
I agree 100%.
And while I am here, may I vent? I spend ten minutes composing a thoughtful
RCF. I hit Submit. The page sits there spinning its wheels for about five
minutes. And then "Our apologies.The page you requested cannot be
displayed." G.
Charles
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I would argue that the principal of "least astonishment" would suggest that
granting key0 would not imply the loss of current key. But I guess doc is doc.
On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 08:38:50 -0500 Peter Relson wrote:
:>>Yep, it is a bug.
:>
:>>The PSW key mask has key 0 and key9 after the combination.
@Peter, thanks.
Please note that *I* never called it a bug. I asked for help figuring out
what was going on -- which I received. Thank you all.
> why not simply be in supervisor state so that you can use SPKA without
concern about the PKM?
I think I mentioned that I believe in "least privilege."
Tony,
How about the brute force method?
HSEND LIST TTOC(153818) which should give you the list of active datasets on
the tape, then HDEL of each dataset, emptying the tape? Once the tape is
empty, HSM and CA1 should just scratch the tape without requiring a mount of it.
Rex
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>Yep, it is a bug.
>The PSW key mask has key 0 and key9 after the combination. Not key 8. I
would
>not expect MODESET to alter the key mask.
No it is not a bug. The "expectation" is incorrect. The updating of the
PKM is fully documented and is what we wanted it to be.
If you want to be switch
Tony,
ARC0378I TTOC RECORD AND TAPE MEDIA CONTENTS ARE INCONSISTENT
You can fix this error by issuing the following:
HSEND AUDIT MEDIACONTROLS VOLUMES(volser) FIX ODS(your.dsn)
For the tapes with "IEC514D DCK OR LBL ERR" you will have to delete either
the T records in the OCDS or their ass
There are variations on the syntax of the DELVOL command. One of them should do
what you want.
If not, the LIST TTOC and delete of individual items will always work as well
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sounds about right.
On Wednesday, December 14, 2016 7:58 AM, Donald J.
wrote:
I tried to re-apply for an opening.
Got to page 9 of the 10 page online form.
It said something about if former employee, fill out item X.
Unfortunately item X was not on that page, and hitting
NEXT button as
I tried to re-apply for an opening.
Got to page 9 of the 10 page online form.
It said something about if former employee, fill out item X.
Unfortunately item X was not on that page, and hitting
NEXT button asked again to complete item X.
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On Tue, Dec 13, 20
They are in both catalogs. I am not currently concerned with the CA-1
catalog since CA-1 normally scratches the tape when HSM recycles a tape.
Anyway, I can handle CA-1 when/if I get HSM cleaned up.
I am trying to clean-up un-readable 3490 tapes listed in the output from:
HSEND LIST TTOC SELECT
I think you are right Phil. I recall the P70 purely for PWD customers. This was
essentially replaced by FLEX (which sold in their hundreds) for PWD and
Commercial users worldwide. Sadly 'killed off' by IBM after the Platform
Solutions debacle.
Cheers!
ALH
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Hello Listers ,
When working through omvs shell, our home has a .sh_history file that records
what was done. But what if it is done from Ishell ? Do we have a similar place
where we can see the history of what was done on Ishell ?
Why I am asking this question is because we had a weird issue r
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