Re: IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper

2017-02-10 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu (Paul Gilmartin) writes: > Nowadays (or is it next year's model?), on the z, practically every one. > Nothing will run without the PR/SM hypervisor. > > In the twilight of Sun Microsystems, Sine Nomine ported OpenSolaris > to z. It required z/VM for

Re: Subject : DCB NECESSSARY?

2017-02-10 Thread Edward Gould
> On Feb 9, 2017, at 8:00 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht > wrote: > > Lizette Koehler wrote: > >> This is documented in the SAMPLIB (I am not at work so I think this is where >> it is) for HSM. ARC member name prefix name. > > Ah, this is it! I found it in ARCSTRST

Re: zOS SYSPROG jobs

2017-02-10 Thread Edward Gould
> On Feb 9, 2017, at 7:18 AM, R.S. wrote: > > W dniu 2017-02-08 o 19:57, Edward Gould pisze: >>> On Feb 8, 2017, at 9:14 AM, R.S. wrote: >>> >>> W dniu 2017-02-07 o 17:58, Bobbie Justice pisze: I've seen several for NYC and

Re: IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper

2017-02-10 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
charl...@mcn.org (Charles Mills) writes: > independently of z/VM, but that is no longer true. > > I'm quite familiar architecturally with CMS. Yes, it is in one sense > an operating system. If I drew a picture of z/VM with a bunch of > guests, CMS would be a peer to VSE, z/OS and Linux, all of

Re: IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper

2017-02-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 16:58:10 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >[... CMS ...] It is more of a >single-user terminal session than an OS. And yes, it no longer can be IPLed >on the hardware, so a purist might say that disqualifies it as an operating >system right there. What kind of operating system

Re: Job Loyalty

2017-02-10 Thread David Purdy
16 years at my previous employer. I was the oldest guy, and they restaffed my position two years later. I'm sure there were other considerations... In 2001, I was also one of the few IT staff that did not participate in a mass resignation attempt to threaten to shutdown IT. Yep, my loyalty

Re: IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper

2017-02-10 Thread Edward Finnell
Back in the days. There was CMS for MVS in the early 80's. One of the developers was a regular at SHARE and I guess resigned due to the decision to shelve it for 'Marketing Considerations'. Went on the shelf right next to the Clist Compiler-CLIC. In a message dated 2/10/2017 6:58:25 P.M.

Re: Job Loyalty

2017-02-10 Thread Gibney, Dave
Almost 36. But, they're vexing me a bit right now :) > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs - Listserv > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 4:55 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Job Loyalty > >

Re: IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper

2017-02-10 Thread Charles Mills
> CMS is indeed an operating system. Early on it used to be able to run independently of z/VM, but that is no longer true. I'm quite familiar architecturally with CMS. Yes, it is in one sense an operating system. If I drew a picture of z/VM with a bunch of guests, CMS would be a peer to VSE,

Re: Job Loyalty

2017-02-10 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv
Almost 22 for me, 16 at my previous position. Mark Jacobs Frank Swarbrick February 10, 2017 at 6:53 PM I've been with my current employer for 25 years. But I will admit we're rather an anomaly these days! From: IBM

Re: SYSLOG/OPERLOG Keyword Search

2017-02-10 Thread David Crayford
> On 11 Feb 2017, at 4:18 am, Donald J. wrote: > > Splunk looks very interesting. > Too bad they don't support z/Linux. > The elastic ELK stack will run on zLinux as its JVM based and can do everything Splunk does. > -- > Donald

Re: Job Loyalty

2017-02-10 Thread Frank Swarbrick
I've been with my current employer for 25 years. But I will admit we're rather an anomaly these days! From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Bobbie Justice <0013e2d84072-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Friday,

Re: IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper

2017-02-10 Thread Hylton Tom P
Don't know about the rockhopper, but we cabled up an emperor a few months ago. Looks just the same as the z13s sitting beside it. It isn't 8 core, it's 141. Yes, it's IFL only and uncapped. I think kvm was an option, but we've used zVM from the beginning on the shared boxes before we got

Re: Where's my dump?

2017-02-10 Thread Bill Woodger
For the PARM, the setting of Language Environment option CBLOPTS determines whether parm information on the left or the right of the / goes to the COBOL program. The CEEOPTS DD is a very convenient way to do it. Having said that, if it is a simple exercise program, you may be able to bust it

Re: Where's my dump?

2017-02-10 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
//CEEOPTS DD * TRAP(OFF,NOSPIE),TRMTHDCT(UADUMP,,96) //* Or on the EXEC statement use PARM='CobolPgmParm/TRAP(OFF,NOSPIE),etc.' Check the spelling of the TRMTH... parameter in the LE Programmer's Guide under Runtime Options, not sure I remembered that one accurately or not. HTH Peter

Where's my dump?

2017-02-10 Thread Greg Boyd
I'm trying to debug a COBOL program that is getting a S0C4, but I'm not getting a dump when it abends. I'm pretty sure this is a simple issue. I'm not a COBOL programmer, but I can copy and paste from samples. I've put together some code to make an ICSF API call and it compiles and binds

Re: IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper

2017-02-10 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 2/10/2017 at 03:58 PM, Charles Mills wrote: > Everything I know about Linux administration could be engraved on the back of > a postage stamp but I would think that if one were a pure Linux sort of > person then one would almost certainly use kvm for Rockhopper

Re: IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper

2017-02-10 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 2/10/2017 at 03:06 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > So the Rockhopper is built on a z12 and Emperor on a z13. But: Not any more. With the release of the z13s, that changed. > ... The z13 mainframe series can hold up to 10 TBs of memory. >

Re: IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper

2017-02-10 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 2/10/2017 at 10:43 AM, Charles Mills wrote: > Anyone have any idea how successful it has been? Is it catching on as a > general Linux server, or does the Linux community view it as some weird > mainframey thing? Since the current Rockhopper is, in terms of hardware

Re: SYSLOG/OPERLOG Keyword Search

2017-02-10 Thread Barry Merrill
JCL===// EXEC SAS JCL===//SYSLOG DD DSN=YOUR.SYSLOG,DISP=SHR JCL===//SYSIN DD * DATA _NULL_; INFILE SYSLOG; INPUT @; IF INDEX(_INFILE_,'TEXT I WANT') GT 0 THEN LIST; Nope, it ain't SPLUNK but will search any file and print the record. Barry

Re: IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper

2017-02-10 Thread Charles Mills
That's a launch article; does not really speak to how successful the product has been in the past year and a half. Everything I know about Linux administration could be engraved on the back of a postage stamp but I would think that if one were a pure Linux sort of person then one would almost

Re: Job Loyalty

2017-02-10 Thread Bobbie Justice
There used to be loyalty, back before constant cost-cutting. I stayed at one place for 15 years in the 80s and early 90s. However with constant cost-cutting, the term "full time employee" is a misnomer. All it takes is "management by airline magazine" and any concept of a full time employee

Re: SYSLOG/OPERLOG Keyword Search

2017-02-10 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
The hardest task in searching the system log is that rarely are you interested only in a particular character string. What you normally want is the contextual environment of that string. Even a message id is not very useful if all you get is the one line containing that id. You really need the

Re: SYSLOG/OPERLOG Keyword Search

2017-02-10 Thread Donald J.
Splunk looks very interesting. Too bad they don't support z/Linux. -- Donald J. dona...@4email.net On Fri, Feb 10, 2017, at 06:44 AM, Pew, Curtis G wrote: > On Feb 10, 2017, at 8:30 AM, Donald J. wrote: > > > > What programs (free or IBM or other) are available for

Re: IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper

2017-02-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 07:43:14 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >Anyone have any idea how successful it has been? Is it catching on as a >general Linux server, or does the Linux community view it as some weird >mainframey thing? > >The answer matters to the MVS community because if IBM can sell a

Re: Job Loyalty

2017-02-10 Thread Allan Staller
100% agreed. I was a recent victim of the same mentality. Essential function cut to the bone and then the bone was broken. Done by an executive 8000 miles away with no clue as to the function provided. ​I think the OP was talking more about large companies. Why is it? Well, as best as I can

Re: Job Loyalty

2017-02-10 Thread Charles Mills
What I said certainly applies to large companies -- that is, my diagnosis of the problem, not necessarily the fact that I tried to implement a solution. The "bonus" factors you describe certainly come into play also. One of the mantras I had to learn was "employees do what they are rewarded

Re: Job Loyalty

2017-02-10 Thread Lester, Bob
Hi Charles, I think you hit it on the head. I've been in IT for 40+ years, 25+ with the same company. My skills now are much different than they were when I started. Else, I wouldn't still be here! I started as a DASD Administrator - to get my foot in the door. Then

Re: Job Loyalty

2017-02-10 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Charles Mills wrote: > > "No company will pay you as much to STAY as another will pay you to GO" > > As an entrepreneur interested in employee retention I gave this a lot of > thought. Why should this be? After all, one would think you should be

Re: System Symbol For Master Catalog

2017-02-10 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
If you can use a REXX based solution, Mark Zelden's ( http://mzelden.com/mvsutil.html ) IPLINFO REXX exec has a lot of helpful information and can be used as a function in REXX to supply the Master Catalog info: Master_DSN = IPLINFO(VAR,MCATDSN) Master_Vol = IPLINFO(VAR,MCATVOL) Or: MCat =

Re: Job Loyalty

2017-02-10 Thread Charles Mills
> "No company will pay you as much to STAY as another will pay you to GO" As an entrepreneur interested in employee retention I gave this a lot of thought. Why should this be? After all, one would think you should be more valuable where you already are: you're all trained, there is no need for

Re: KC!? Susan Shumway?

2017-02-10 Thread Susan Shumway
Hi Paul(Gil?), That's great to hear that KC works on Midori! It's always nice to have a surprise that's pleasant every once in a while... Regarding your wishes: > o That ToC sidebar should have resize handles, vertically so I can see more > lines at once, and horizontally so I can see

Re: System Symbol For Master Catalog

2017-02-10 Thread John Eells
If the master catalog is tied to the IPL volume, you can name the master catalog volume in a way that can be derived from the IPL volume serial, and then set it from the value of the system-defined symbol, (If it's not, I don't know an automatic way to get what you want.) Andrew Metcalfe

Job Loyalty

2017-02-10 Thread John Mattson
Loyalty is dead in the workplace. Companies will dump you in a flash unless they have an immediate need, and employees should be ready to take any better offer which comes along. I coined a phrase many years ago "No company will pay you as much to STAY as another will pay you to GO".

Re: IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper

2017-02-10 Thread Charles Mills
Anyone have any idea how successful it has been? Is it catching on as a general Linux server, or does the Linux community view it as some weird mainframey thing? The answer matters to the MVS community because if IBM can sell a warehouse full of them it will support further mainframe hardware

Re: IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper

2017-02-10 Thread Mike Beer
Link to some pricing info: https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=SP=PM=LUS12345USEN=LUS12345USEN.PDF Mike -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Attachmate Reflections 3270 Client and detecting URLs

2017-02-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2017-02-09, at 12:34, Grinsell, Don wrote: > I just did a simple test in CICS with a long URL that wrapped my 80 column > screen. Bluezone only highlighted the first line but clicking it used the > entire URL up to the trailing blank. It's totally up to the 3270 emulation > vendor as to

IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper

2017-02-10 Thread Steve Beaver
Has anyone in the group ever priced out an IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper? Steve -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: System Symbol For Master Catalog

2017-02-10 Thread Andrew Metcalfe
Yes - we switch between LOADA1 (cycle A site1) which uses mastercat A & LOADB1 (cycle B site 1) which uses mastercat B. I realise that I can define a symbol in IEASYMxx but this is error-prone across 90+ z/OS systems in 8 sysplexes. I'll probably invoke something out of IEFSSNxx which gets the

Re: SYSLOG/OPERLOG Keyword Search

2017-02-10 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Feb 10, 2017, at 8:30 AM, Donald J. wrote: > > What programs (free or IBM or other) are available for doing historical > keyword > searches against the SYSLOG or OPERLOG archives? ISPF or otherwise. I don’t think this is exactly what you’re asking for, but we forward

Re: SYSLOG/OPERLOG Keyword Search

2017-02-10 Thread Donald J.
Another team member installed an ISPF product written at one of his former places of employment. We were investigating other products. The ISPF panel allows entering starting/end date and time, along with up to 3 keyword strings with AND or OR operatives. The console log lines with those

Re: SYSLOG/OPERLOG Keyword Search

2017-02-10 Thread Allan Staller
IEHIBALL (FREE) Subject: SYSLOG/OPERLOG Keyword Search What programs (free or IBM or other) are available for doing historical keyword searches against the SYSLOG or OPERLOG archives? ISPF or otherwise. ::DISCLAIMER::

Re: SYSLOG/OPERLOG Keyword Search

2017-02-10 Thread Mike Wawiorko
If you have NetView CANZLOG is very good at this. Mike Wawiorko    Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Donald J. Sent: 10 February 2017 14:31 To:

Re: SYSLOG/OPERLOG Keyword Search

2017-02-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
So you can use (depending on level of z/OS) the SDSF REXX function. REXX DFSORT SAS CA EASYTRIEVE CA EARL SYNSORT And so on. If you have the SYSLOG copied off to a physical file, it is easily read If you are asking about REAL TIME Processing, then you would need to look at

SYSLOG/OPERLOG Keyword Search

2017-02-10 Thread Donald J.
What programs (free or IBM or other) are available for doing historical keyword searches against the SYSLOG or OPERLOG archives? ISPF or otherwise. -- Donald J. dona...@4email.net -- http://www.fastmail.com - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free

Re: System Symbol For Master Catalog

2017-02-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am not sure what version of z/OS You are running. However, there is no symbol for master cat. It is in the LOADxx parms. So are you saying you switch your LOADXX parm with different MCATs on occasion? You can always create a symbol in IEASYMxx for your system with your mcat name. Lizette

System Symbol For Master Catalog

2017-02-10 Thread Andrew Metcalfe
I've obviously not had need for a symbol for the mastercat in the last 30 years so when I went looking for it today I was surprised to find that there isn't one. Am I missing something? Use case: Healthchecker to perform checks against a mastercat in a 10-way sysplex. Six of the systems have

Re: IBM's Marissa Mayer moment: Staff ordered to work in one of 6 main offices – or face the axe (2)

2017-02-10 Thread Dana Mitchell
On Thu, 9 Feb 2017 21:55:21 -0500, Steve Smith wrote: >Well, this about a marketing department. There's no way to tell whether >they accomplish anything or not :-). > >sas > More than just marketing:

Re: Attachmate Reflections 3270 Client and detecting URLs

2017-02-10 Thread Roger Bolan
I don't know about Attachmate, but IBM Personal Communications does this. --Roger On Feb 9, 2017 11:13 AM, "Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)" wrote: > Is there a way to have the Attachmate Reflections 16.0 3270 client detect > a url in the 3270 data and make it clickable? > >

Re: Attachmate Reflections 3270 Client and detecting URLs

2017-02-10 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
I found this as well in experimenting - thanks for sharing - you beat me to it :-) -- Lionel B. Dyck Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA Enterprise Operations (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) Information and Technology, IT