Re: [EXTERNAL] Vendor Licensing Frustrations

2017-04-24 Thread Edward Gould
> On Apr 24, 2017, at 10:07 AM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) > wrote: > —SNIP > Lionel B. Dyck One of the things we did at DR was to run under VM and use the same serial numbers. Hey it worked. We were not cheating we were definitely doing DR. Ed >

Re: FTP Failing with space issues

2017-04-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:44:10 -0500, Bill Godfrey wrote: >>> >>From "man ssh" (on Linux): >> >>NAME >> ssh - OpenSSH SSH client (remote login program) >> >>SYNOPSIS >> ssh [-options] [user@]hostname [command] >> >>DESCRIPTION >> ... >> If command is specified, it is executed on the

Re: KC Authentication failed

2017-04-24 Thread Tom Conley
On 4/24/2017 3:43 PM, Susan Shumway wrote: Tom, are you still having trouble? I'm able to access https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.iea/iea.htm and all Init&Tuning Ref links on it. If you still can't, I'll try to figure out why you're getting an authenticati

Re: Vendor Licensing Frustrations

2017-04-24 Thread Mike Schwab
How about reaching an agreement with IBM. When they get a SCRT report that includes your product, they send you a copy. Then when contacting a site, the disclosure agreement to get the trial copy and the final contract indicate that IBM will send you a copy of SCRT results for billing purposes.

Re: FTP Failing with space issues

2017-04-24 Thread Bill Godfrey
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:36:29 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >On 2017-04-24, at 16:17, Pew, Curtis G wrote: >>> >>> sftp depends on ssh. But ... is it possible to configure ssh so only the >>> sftp >>> agent, not a shell, is allowed as an ssh agent on the server? >> >> Yes, at least on Linux. We

Re: SYNCSORT SEQNUM not restarting at 1 or incrementing by 1 for changes in RESTART value

2017-04-24 Thread Bill Woodger
1. "This manual left intentionally blank". Try a DATASORT. If you have that, you probably have everything. 2. Yes, symbols are great. SyncSORT doesn't call them symbols as such, I think they are "dictionary" or something like that. I've been known to change Kolusu's inline comments to symbols.

Re: SYNCSORT SEQNUM not restarting at 1 or incrementing by 1 for changes in RESTART value

2017-04-24 Thread Bill Woodger
If you don't need the physical file for anything except to extract from it, you can just establish a SEQNUM for each selection, and just use an OUTFIL (or more) with your selection by number. Saves the SORT, the creation of the new file, and the processing of the new file, just cutting straight

Re: FTP Failing with space issues

2017-04-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2017-04-24, at 16:17, Pew, Curtis G wrote: >> >> sftp depends on ssh. But ... is it possible to configure ssh so only the >> sftp >> agent, not a shell, is allowed as an ssh agent on the server? > > Yes, at least on Linux. We have a server where most of the accounts are > specified with ‘sf

Re: FTP Failing with space issues

2017-04-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2017-04-24, at 12:20, Nims,Alva John (Al) wrote: > > ... you have to write to zFS first and then you can do a "!cp / > //'CH2ICST.X.Y.R1'" (without the double quotes) to get it to MVS. > Why bother with a copy. Just leave it in zFS and adjust DD statements in subsequent jobs as needed.

Re: Who Needs Spill/Overflow Pools anymore?

2017-04-24 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I guess that my SVCDUMP problem sort of triggered this threadlet. The main purpose for 'overflow' is when you have a 'proprietary' pool that is more or less dedicated to one business unit or function. In our case, SVCDUMPs need to be taken to a specific set of volumes so that our RYO dump manage

Re: FTP Failing with space issues

2017-04-24 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Apr 24, 2017, at 5:05 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > sftp depends on ssh. But ... is it possible to configure ssh so only the sftp > agent, not a shell, is allowed as an ssh agent on the server? Yes, at least on Linux. We have a server where mo

Re: SYNCSORT SEQNUM not restarting at 1 or incrementing by 1 for changes in RESTART value

2017-04-24 Thread Steve Smith
Just some general suggestions that may be helpful: 1. ICETOOL has a number of commands that may make it easier to do what you want. It's worth getting familiar with it. I've recently discovered that SYNCTOOL handles my ICETOOL jobs just fine. I've not seen a byte of doc on SYNCTOOL, so there ma

Re: FTP Failing with space issues

2017-04-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:34:09 -0500, John McKown wrote: > >​NO! > >You can NOT do a "!cp ..." to copy the file on the _server_ to a dataset on >the _server_. That is because the "!..." sftp command runs the given >command _ON THE CLIENT_ (i.e. your machine). Otherwise, some clever person >could poss

Re: Vendor Licensing Frustrations

2017-04-24 Thread zMan
So C- as in, "Not great but they would have passed"? Just clarifying... On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > Some time ago I heard an interview on the efficacy of SOX in the real > world of IT. The interviewee estimated--hypothetically and well after the > fact--that Enron

Re: SYNCSORT SEQNUM not restarting at 1 or incrementing by 1 for changes in RESTART value

2017-04-24 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks Bill, that put me on the right track. Another regular poster also offered me some other options offline that might require fewer passes, which I am exploring. I will report back for the archives when I figure out what I am going to use. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainfr

Re: Who Needs Spill/Overflow Pools anymore?

2017-04-24 Thread Cafiero, Tobias M.
Team, I agree with the below. There is usually some Testing that doesn't get announced or unexpected work load. It's better have extra around, then explaining why you have x amount of TB's available, but Applications abended on space. Tobias Cafiero Data Resource Management Core Systems Tec

Re: Who Needs Spill/Overflow Pools anymore?

2017-04-24 Thread Lizette Koehler
So - ODM has replaced the previous functions in HSM. However, there are some pools that are small on purpose (like DB2 Offload Log Pool). The only time we have issues with it - someone decides they need to run an analyze on the last month of DB2 logs. That can recall a lot of logs and fill u

Re: SYNCSORT SEQNUM not restarting at 1 or incrementing by 1 for changes in RESTART value

2017-04-24 Thread Bill Woodger
Also, your initial BUILD creates the extra byte which is used. You can change the subsequent BUILDs to OVERLAY which just change the one byte at column 5: (will save you one BUILD per record, you'll notice). If 220k+ were really large, you could also (since the test values are mutually exclusiv

Re: SYNCSORT SEQNUM not restarting at 1 or incrementing by 1 for changes in RESTART value

2017-04-24 Thread Bill Woodger
It doesn't matter where you physically locate the SORT control card, SORT will execute after INREC. You need to put anything which the SORT relies upon in INREC, and anything which relies upon the SORT in OUTREC. -- For IBM-MAI

Re: KC Authentication failed

2017-04-24 Thread Susan Shumway
Tom, are you still having trouble? I'm able to access https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.iea/iea.htm and all Init&Tuning Ref links on it. If you still can't, I'll try to figure out why you're getting an authentication error for an open site... Yours truly

Re: Who Needs Spill/Overflow Pools anymore?

2017-04-24 Thread Ronald Kristel
What about 'in case of emergencies?'. (I think) almost all our storagegroups are directed to one substantial big overflow storagepool, _just_ for occurances where for whatever reason, something starts to heavily use a specific storage pool. I agree, it's not very efficient to have a massive amo

Re: Vendor Licensing Frustrations

2017-04-24 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Some time ago I heard an interview on the efficacy of SOX in the real world of IT. The interviewee estimated--hypothetically and well after the fact--that Enron would likely have scored a C- in a full SOX audit. As I said, minimal protection achieved. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California

Re: FTP Failing with space issues

2017-04-24 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
You are correct! Al Nims University of Florida -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 2:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FTP Failing with space issues On Mon, Apr 24, 2

Who Needs Spill/Overflow Pools anymore?

2017-04-24 Thread Lizette Koehler
This is just a discussion topic (Thank you Skip for making me think about this ;-O) In the past we needed to have them as we were tight on storage. But today, is that still the case. What is a good reason to either have or don't have SPILL/OVERFLOW pools when we can just add more storage to the

Re: FTP Failing with space issues

2017-04-24 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Nims,Alva John (Al) wrote: > I agree with Walt, you are using sftp, which is a different beast that ftp > and as far as I know, yes I have not worked with sftp, just had to do a > cursory look at it recently, but have not gone down the road, sftp does NOT > suppor

Re: FTP Failing with space issues

2017-04-24 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
I agree with Walt, you are using sftp, which is a different beast that ftp and as far as I know, yes I have not worked with sftp, just had to do a cursory look at it recently, but have not gone down the road, sftp does NOT support MVS data sets directly, it only works with zFS (USS), so you have

Re: DFHEXLI vs DFHECI

2017-04-24 Thread Frank Swarbrick
I don't think that EXCI is truly being used in this case. Unless the program is compiled with the CICS('EXCI') option, or it calls the "callable" EXCI routine (DFHXCIS) directly, the fact that you have linked in the EXCI stubs doesn't seem to matter. As for DFHECI, isn't that an older CICS st

SYNCSORT SEQNUM not restarting at 1 or incrementing by 1 for changes in RESTART value

2017-04-24 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I am trying to partition a fairly large RECFM=VB dataset (220K+ records) by various characteristics of the records using a unique identifier byte and a SEQNUM. The goal is to be able to subsequently extract in a second pass some "count" number of records by "type" to create an extracted sample

Re: Vendor Licensing Frustrations

2017-04-24 Thread Charles Mills
Please allow me to add that I have been thinking about this problem space for 25 years. I did not wake up one morning and say "what could I do today to annoy mainframe customers?" I feel the customer pain. I have also felt the pain of "how am I going to make payroll this week?" I have been respons

Re: RMM question

2017-04-24 Thread Mike Wood
Richard, Just chanced upon this question from you . and cant see any reply yet, so will try to answer it. You cannot mix RETAINBY volume and RETAINBY set for VRS retention. However that does not really answer the question What rmm will do for a "set" of volumes depends on what is actual

Re: FTP Failing with space issues

2017-04-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 09:45:02 -0500, Walt Farrell wrote: >On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 08:17:55 -0500, Ron Thomas wrote: >> >>Script >>--- >>sftp to1c...@cray.cps.se.com >><< EOF >>site blocksize=0 lrecl=3000 recfm=fb prim=25 sec=25 cyl >>put /sap/co2ekh/backup/global_chgback_escoa_2017-01-22:22:00

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Vendor Licensing Frustrations

2017-04-24 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
There has been some great discussion on this topic - I can only hope/pray that somehow change happens. I've been working on DR planning for one of our locations and out of 15 non-IBM products, ONLY 3 will continue to operate without temp codes, and of those 3, 1 expires after 2 days and the oth

Re: Erase on Scratch

2017-04-24 Thread Larre Shiller
Ed - Yes. Larre -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: FTP Failing with space issues

2017-04-24 Thread Walt Farrell
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 08:17:55 -0500, Ron Thomas wrote: >i executed the below script from Linux VM and the below is what it says. >Looks like site command is not supported . So any idea on how this could be >resolved or is there any work around ? > >Script >--- >sftp to1c...@cray.cps.se.

Re: Vendor Licensing Frustrations

2017-04-24 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
scott Ford wrote: >What about theft of software products ? We all know it goes on ... >How do you prevent it ? Y, tell me. As a private programmer (moonlighting) years ago writing programs in Turbo Pascal, Clarion, Clipper, etc. on PCs in those good DOS days, it is pretty easy for them to

Re: FTP Failing with space issues

2017-04-24 Thread Lizette Koehler
Have you talked to you z/OS Sysprogs Linux Sysprogs Vtam/Comm Server Sysprogs TCP/IP Sysprogs? Your shop may have restrictions the list is not aware of - for example EXITS for FTP that impact the usage of common functions. If you talk to them, you may be able to solve your problem faster. L

Re: FTP Failing with space issues

2017-04-24 Thread Ron Thomas
with the modified one like "quote site blocksize=0 lrecl=3000 recfm=fb wrap prim=25 sec=25 cyl" it is showing the same error. Thanks! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@lists

Re: How to parse rows using SORT

2017-04-24 Thread Bill Ashton
Kolusu, thanks for the fix - I had not noticed this problem in my test cases, but now believe I have a more accurate process. I appreciate your time and attention! Have a magnificent Monday! On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Sri h Kolusu wrote: > Bill, > > I apologize for the oversight in parsing

Re: Vendor Licensing Frustrations

2017-04-24 Thread scott Ford
Timothy: What about theft of software products ? We all know it goes on ... How do you prevent it ? Scott On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Charles Mills wrote: > Oh gee, let me try to respond to the most significant points here. > > > Charles Mills argues in defense of software product keys fo

Re: FTP Failing with space issues

2017-04-24 Thread Wheeler, Simon
Would the QUOTE command help in this instance, e.g. quote site Regards, Simon. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ron Thomas Sent: 24 April 2017 14:18 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FTP Failing with space i

Re: Erase on Scratch

2017-04-24 Thread Edward Gould
Larre: Are you currently running 2.2 on all your production machines? Ed > On Apr 24, 2017, at 4:57 AM, Larre Shiller > <0102cb4997b0-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > I have been involved in a number of offline discussions as well as multiple > IBM PMRs and problem records with ou

Re: Vendor Licensing Frustrations

2017-04-24 Thread Charles Mills
Oh gee, let me try to respond to the most significant points here. > Charles Mills argues in defense of software product keys for mainframe software. No, I argue in defense of vendors getting paid (so they can pay their employees, their rent, their SHARE sponsorships, their IBM bills, ...). Keys

Re: FTP Failing with space issues

2017-04-24 Thread Ron Thomas
i executed the below script from Linux VM and the below is what it says. Looks like site command is not supported . So any idea on how this could be resolved or is there any work around ? Script --- sftp to1c...@cray.cps.se.com << EOF site blocksize=0 lrecl=3000 recfm=fb prim=25 sec=25

Re: SMS STORGRP question

2017-04-24 Thread Cafiero, Tobias M.
Hello, Why not use Spill volumes. Create a STOrGRPP called SGSPILL put it under your Dump volumes enable it to spill and problem solved. Tobias Cafiero Data Resource Management Core Systems Technology Lead System Architect DTCC  New York Office: 212-855-1117 E-mail: tcafi...@dtcc.com Web: www

Re: SETRP with DUMP=YES

2017-04-24 Thread Greg Dyck
On 4/22/2017 10:24 AM, esst...@juno.com wrote: Can I issue a SETRP DUMP=YES without other parameters. . Meaning I don't want to specify a retry routine nor do I want to specify a return code. I simply want to issue SETRP DUMP=YES and return to the next sequential instruction following the SETRP

Re: SETRP with DUMP=YES

2017-04-24 Thread Peter Relson
The "abend dump" (SYSABEND, SYSUDUMP, SYSMDUMP depending on JCL) that is the subject of the DUMP=YES/DUMP=NO option of SETRP is initiated by RTM prior to retry, after the recovery routine returns. Recovery routines that want an SVC Dump must initiate that themselves. Peter Relson z/OS Core Tech

Re: Erase on Scratch

2017-04-24 Thread Larre Shiller
I have been involved in a number of offline discussions as well as multiple IBM PMRs and problem records with our DASD hardware vendor concerning EOS and although this is potentially a most useful function, the overhead involved is not zero--there will always be *some* amount of overhead involve