Re: Migration of Mainframe to other plat form.

2017-05-03 Thread Linda
Hi James, More to consider - Most businesses have legal holding requirements for at least some, perhaps a lot of customer data, business tax data, employee data, retirement data, and other benefits data. Harvesting and converting that data - along with the data dictionaries necessary to

Re: Migration of Mainframe to other plat form.

2017-05-03 Thread Steve Thompson
One thing the legal department needs to be asked about: How long do they have to be able to reproduce reports/documents or be able to do a report? Now, will the new system be able to process the old system's data for that period, or will some arrangement need to be made to do this with their

Re: Adventures in JCL: PROCs, symbols and instream data

2017-05-03 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 27/04/2017 10:54 PM, Tom Marchant wrote: Glad you got it to work, but it should have worked the way you had it. I hope you will open a Service Request to get it fixed. I had forgotten how frustrating it is to open Service Requests. IBM has many brilliant people dedicated to improving z/OS.

Re: Storage Creep

2017-05-03 Thread scott Ford
Hey E, I didn't find a WKSP, do I assume Subpool 0 doing Nextc to extract userids. Definitely ugh..i will post a snip... Scott On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 8:37 AM Elardus Engelbrecht < elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote: > scott Ford wrote: > > >I found the issues, one as CM mentioned was the

Re: Migration of Mainframe to other plat form.

2017-05-03 Thread Steve Beaver
What is the sending platform and what do you want to emulate without 20,000 hours of contract labor? Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 12:05 PM To:

Re: Migration of Mainframe to other plat form.

2017-05-03 Thread John McKown
On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 7:57 AM, Allan Staller wrote: > From previous experience (with another vendor), > > Beware of any promises made by sales team (sales, tech marketing,). > If (whatever it is) is promised and agreed to, ensure it is written into > the contract with

Re: Migration of Mainframe to other plat form.

2017-05-03 Thread π
On Wed, May 03, 2017 at 07:54:00AM -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: > > Leap year, Leap Second, how is that handled on the new platform? How does > the clock change occur? Is it manual? Is it automatic? Will the > application need to be shut-down when we go back or forward? > Almost any other

Zip archives (Was: SHARE Proceedings self-extacting ZIP File reguesting Admin rights??

2017-05-03 Thread David W Noon
On Wed, 3 May 2017 11:11:55 +0200, Peter Hunkeler (p...@gmx.ch) wrote about "AW: Re: AW: Re: SHARE Proceedings self-extacting ZIP File reguesting Admin rights??" (in ): [snip] > What is "standard unzip"? Long ago, Windows had no ZIP support, so I > bought WinZip.

Re: job output into dataset

2017-05-03 Thread Barkow, Eileen
SDSF has a REXX interface which is documented in the SDSF OPERATION and CUSTOMIZATION manual. I have a clist that extracts certain SYSOUT datasets from various jobs on the output queue and writes them out to datasets. I can send you the routine if that would help. -Original Message-

Re: Migration of Mainframe to other plat form.

2017-05-03 Thread Lizette Koehler
Others have given good advice. This is just observations and comments. Things to think about. Note: You cannot translate all functions in running on mainframe to a different platform. The process needs to be written according to the platform it will run on. If you have IMS, you need to

Re: job output into dataset

2017-05-03 Thread Lizette Koehler
First, You cannot "cut" messages from the task. You can only spin it. I am sure there are consultants you can hire to help you write this code. This is a friendly list, but you are asking for some effort to be done. You can have JES spin the job at the number of lines you want, it does not

Re: Migration of Mainframe to other plat form.

2017-05-03 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Seen this as my last gig, same company promising to 'emulate' the entire enterprise, no code changes, CICS, JES2 - the folks runing the migration allow the company three failed attempts before they started listening to reason. our biggest workload was DB2/CICS, so it was determined that DB2

Re: How is the name for UID=0 chosen in directory listing in Unix System Services

2017-05-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 3 May 2017 04:54:41 -0500, Jantje. wrote: > >I have 55 users (mostly for deamons, but not all) having UID=0. When I do a >ls -l >on any directory, I see the files belonging to root (owner uid = 0) are >attributed to belong to one user ID out of that list of 55. I know the UID is >what

Re: Migration of Mainframe to other plat form.

2017-05-03 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
Yeah, just ask John McKown about his company's recent experience. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 8:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Migration of Mainframe to

Re: Migration of Mainframe to other plat form.

2017-05-03 Thread Allan Staller
From previous experience (with another vendor), Beware of any promises made by sales team (sales, tech marketing,). If (whatever it is) is promised and agreed to, ensure it is written into the contract with an appropriate penalty for non-performance (up to and including cancellation of the

Re: Storage Creep

2017-05-03 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
scott Ford wrote: >I found the issues, one as CM mentioned was the Freemain and secondly I found >some old assembler RACF macros - ICHEINTY ...and there were NO freemains...ugh >...I reproduced their problem. Oh, thats a bigh ugh! What is value of WKSP in that ICHEINTY? There are weird but

Re: job output into dataset

2017-05-03 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
It just seems to show the first output with the same name, not the output I selected. If I select it with an 'S' it works fine, but sometimes (HSM is an example) I want to filter the long list of messages and try to use SE (Display in ISPF Edit). Same issue with SB (Display in ISPF Browse) I

Re: job output into dataset

2017-05-03 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
venkat kulkarni wrote: >... So, my idea is to create rexx program, which keep checking ( once in day) >particular address spaces like IMS, CICS, or any other which are continuously >running in system and find that if the lines are exceed in the job with the >limit we set in rexx program then

Re: Storage Creep

2017-05-03 Thread scott Ford
CM and All : I found the issues, one as CM mentioned was the Freemain and secondly I found some old assembler RACF macros - ICHEINTY ...and there were NO freemains...ugh ...I reproduced their problem. This is a design I inherited so I am obviously in the stage of changing... I appreciate

Re: job output into dataset

2017-05-03 Thread venkat kulkarni
Thanks for all suggestion. Currently, we don’t have any third party product for doing this task. So, my idea is to create rexx program, which keep checking ( once in day) particular address spaces like IMS, CICS, or any other which are continuously running in system and find that if the lines are

How is the name for UID=0 chosen in directory listing in Unix System Services

2017-05-03 Thread Jantje.
Dear Listers, I have 55 users (mostly for deamons, but not all) having UID=0. When I do a ls -l on any directory, I see the files belonging to root (owner uid = 0) are attributed to belong to one user ID out of that list of 55. I know the UID is what is holding the single truth about

AW: Re: AW: Re: SHARE Proceedings self-extacting ZIP File reguesting Admin rights??

2017-05-03 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>Interesting! I've not seen or used WinZip, but standard unzip has handled them for many years. What is "standard unzip"? Long ago, Windows had no ZIP support, so I bought WinZip. Has the "unzip" become Windows command when support for ZIP files was added? -- Peter Hunkeler

Migration of Mainframe to other plat form.

2017-05-03 Thread James Wellingtin
Hey I know this here might be a bit of a nasty question to ask Have a customer who has intensions of migrate to another platform than IBM Mainframe, don't know what ? They have asked MetaWare to be the stakeholder in this . At the moment it is in the very very beginning of he process. I think