Re: Cobol upgrade 6.2 linklist

2017-12-15 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Some folks have probably been burned by the abuse of user libraries in the LINKLIST and so preach fire and brimstone against it. To others it is just "business as usual" because they have not experienced such abuse or its consequences. I am one of them. As I said, YMMV. Each company is a mini

Re: DFSORT: RACFICE query - how to extract all commands containing some text value

2017-12-15 Thread Bruce Hewson
Kolusu, Thank you very much for your JCL. I have tweaked it a little to modify the column layout, moving the "who did it" to the end of the line, and keeping "what happened" at the start. Some minor displacement corrections also. Very useful JCL. Thank you very much. Bruce //ITSXSA3U JOB (

Re: Cobol upgrade 6.2 linklist

2017-12-15 Thread Frank Swarbrick
I dunno... when we migrated from VSE to z/OS in 2010 I was almost burned as a heretic for suggesting that user application libraries be placed in the linklist... From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Friday, December 15, 20

Re: RSM Freemained Frames - When do they apply?

2017-12-15 Thread Jim Mulder
It can improve performance for any number of processors, but the value increases as the number of processors increases. We do not condition its use based on the number of processors. Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development, Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie NY "IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

2017-12-15 Thread Gilson
Jesse: In order to map all the printers are in use from all of 12k defined in your VPS system you can use a very simple program that comes with the VPS library that lists all the reports and printers in use but, for make use of it, you need to record SMF register 6. I can send you the so

Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

2017-12-15 Thread Warren Brown
Hey Rob From: "Jackson, Rob" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 4:30 PM Subject: Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment Not sure whom you were asking, but I can answer for our formerly-VPS, now-NPF shop.  We have 65 active physical printers, covered by 174 definit

Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

2017-12-15 Thread Jackson, Rob
Not sure whom you were asking, but I can answer for our formerly-VPS, now-NPF shop. We have 65 active physical printers, covered by 174 definitions. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Friday, Dec

Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

2017-12-15 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
I personally like IP Print Server over NPF. But it is a cost item, as in not free as in NPF. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Roger Bolan Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 4:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

2017-12-15 Thread Roger Bolan
You should also look at Infoprint Server. It's a component of z/OS. I don't know what the LRS VPS definitions look like, but I see another post here that mentions 12K definitions. If you can read those with code, Rexx perhaps, and parse them, you could create a text file of pidu create commands

Re: Cobol upgrade 6.2 linklist

2017-12-15 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Re: #3, that is not necessarily true. Depends heavily on the shop-standard STEPLIB rules (use or don't use production "user library" in STEPLIB's). As long as the "normal" rule is NOT to use production "user library" in STEPLIB's and you choose to use the "two library" approach to migration, p

Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

2017-12-15 Thread Cieri, Anthony
LRS also provides several PCMD keywords that can reduce the need for multiple definitions for the "same" printer. These keywords provide various methods of "injecting" printer commands to control pagination, duplex, fonts etc. For example: PCMDSTRT=(FPS13266,FPS13266,&WRITE

Re: "make" question

2017-12-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 14 Dec 2017 01:58:34 +, Frank Swarbrick wrote: >I wrote my first "makefile" today. Took me some time to understand the >requirement for tab characters. Having only the ISPF editor (oedit), tab >characters are not very friendly on 3270 screens. > Does ISPF (under oedit's covers) sup

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Cobol upgrade 6.2 linklist [USAA Confidential]

2017-12-15 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Absolutely head those 'restrictions' or suggestions about proclib in MSTJCLxx and PARMLIB's - thanks for the sanity checked Darrold ! Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Darrold Usher" <014f796d148d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Frida

Re: Cobol upgrade 6.2 linklist

2017-12-15 Thread Frank Swarbrick
I am surprised no one yet as asked, is the OP referring to 1) The COBOL compiler library, 2) the COBOL runtime library, or 3) user libraries with COBOL programs. 1) Don't see any real need for this. 2) Probably already done, as the COBOL runtime library is CEE.SCEERUN 3) I've been told that "user

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Cobol upgrade 6.2 linklist [USAA Confidential]

2017-12-15 Thread Usher, Darrold
I have plenty of PDSE datasets in my linklist with no issues including the ones you have listed below. The challenge comes with datasets used very early in the IPL (like parmlib and etc.) SMS and the SMSPDSE address spaces are not up yet so don't make those PDSEs. Darrold USAA Confidential --

Re: Converting programs to accommodate 8-character userids and prefixes

2017-12-15 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
john.archie.mck...@gmail.com (John McKown) writes: > ​TSO seems to be about as important to IBM as VSPC was. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Storage_Personal_Computing​ VSPC was to be low-end non-vm370/cms online. They had a performance "model" which predicted benchmark performance ... and

Re: Cobol upgrade 6.2 linklist

2017-12-15 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Hum , I know COBOL object modules 5+ need to be PDS/E, but I've never knew about the linklist restrictions with PDS/E , so what about IBM libraries in the linklist from my serverpac build? alway had in CPAC.PARMLIB and migrated forward. SYS1.SHASLNKE SYS1.SIEALNKE SYS1.SIEAMIGE

Re: Cobol upgrade 6.2 linklist

2017-12-15 Thread Jousma, David
Are you sure you aren’t thinking of LPALSTxx? There are quite a few IBM supplied PDSE in linklist. SIEALNKE, SIEAMIGE, SHASLNKE _ Dave Jousma Manager Mainframe Engineering, Assistant Vice President david.jou...@53.com 1830 Ea

Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

2017-12-15 Thread Keith Smith
LRS provides a report of printer use, if you are collecting the SMF, If you don't have 13 months of data then make sure to sample month end, quarter end and year end processing dates... if not, you may miss some limited use printers. On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > Al

Re: Converting programs to accommodate 8-character userids and prefixes

2017-12-15 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Friday history lesson. A shop I used to work at had an (overly) elaborate charge back system that required users to logon with an account number associated with the task(s) they were performing at the time. So most every application programmer had several account numbers in the ACCOUNT tree. Eac

Re: Cobol upgrade 6.2 linklist

2017-12-15 Thread Lizette Koehler
As you will find out. Any Cobol program compiled from the Cobol Compiler from 5.0 up will REQUIRE PDSE for the Load lib - Object LOAD. If you have your application batch load library in the LINKLST then you will need to move it into the place where you start other PDS/E Dataset in the Linklst

Re: Cobol upgrade 6.2 linklist

2017-12-15 Thread Mike Schwab
Cobol 5+ objects must be in PDSE. Some early IPL functions can't list a PDSE. Only restriction. On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:50 AM, Jake Anderson wrote: > Hi > > A general question > > Do you still cobol load module in linklist post upgrade to 6.2 ? > > Regards > Jake > >

Re: Converting programs to accommodate 8-character userids and prefixes

2017-12-15 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote: > On 12/15/2017 7:43 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > >> On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 01:09:58 -0500, Sam Golob wrote: >> >>> One way of getting around it is not to turn on the 8-character id >>> support. But people in IBM have told me that they want to e

Re: Converting programs to accommodate 8-character userids and prefixes

2017-12-15 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 12/15/2017 7:43 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 01:09:58 -0500, Sam Golob wrote:     One way of getting around it is not to turn on the 8-character id support.  But people in IBM have told me that they want to eventually make 8-character id support the default, so we've got to

Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

2017-12-15 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
All I want for Xmas is the answer to the question of how many. ;-) We have over 12K (!) VPS definitions, but... 1. Many of those are multiple entries for the same physical device with varying format attributes like double-sided, landscape, two-up, etc. For example, one device I picked at random

Re: DFSORT: RACFICE query - how to extract all commands containing some text value

2017-12-15 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Elardus, Thank you for your kind words Kolusu From: Elardus Engelbrecht To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 12/15/2017 01:02 AM Subject:Re: DFSORT: RACFICE query - how to extract all commands containing some text value Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List Sri h Ko

Re: Converting programs to accommodate 8-character userids and prefixes

2017-12-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 01:09:58 -0500, Sam Golob wrote: > >     One way of getting around it is not to turn on the 8-character id >support.  But people in IBM have told me that they want to eventually >make 8-character id support the default, so we've got to get there >sooner or later. > Underreachin

Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

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Cobol upgrade 6.2 linklist

2017-12-15 Thread Jake Anderson
Hi A general question Do you still cobol load module in linklist post upgrade to 6.2 ? Regards Jake -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INF

Re: RSM Freemained Frames - When do they apply?

2017-12-15 Thread Christopher Y. Blaicher
z13 and later. It works on the z14 also. I would imagine that IBM saw the problem when they got to a large number of processors. The overhead internally probably became more expensive that the RSM program overhead. I don't know, but they may turn it on and off based on the number of processo

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Re: DFSORT: RACFICE query - how to extract all commands containing some text value

2017-12-15 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Sri h Kolusu wrote: >>>Elardus : Careful, Sri will SORT you out... ;-D >Nooo. I am not a RACF expert, So I have to agree with Robert. Hahaha, and I am not a SORT expert. ;-) >You can try the JCL that I sent offline and see if that works Amazing example. ONE pass with SS statement and various