Re: March 18: Exploring z/OS Container Extensions Live Webcast

[Timothy Sipples]

Massimo Biancucci wrote:
>it would be really appreciated if you'll post a recording of the event.

I'll try, but I cannot promise that yet.

Peter Farley wrote:
>I do see what you saw when I clicked the Attend button, it forces
>you to sign up with Meetup to attend the meeting.

Your other two choices are to log in with a Google or Facebook account.

Be aware of the starting time, though: 10:00 a.m. India Standard Time on 
March 18, 2020. For example, in New York this'll be starting just a few 
minutes before James Corden and Seth Meyers go on the air.

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Re: Attitude of companies toward mainframers working from home?

[Seymour J Metz]

Typo for WFH. Work From Marid might be acceptable, but McD is a place that I 
only enter under threat of lethal force.

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WFM? Work From McDonalds?

On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 4:42 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:

> I would prefer WFM with an option to occasionally come to the office, but
> that assumes that I have a permanent location in the office where I can red
> things. Back in the old days when I had to read dumps over the telephone
> the distraction of other conversations was an issue. It doesn't matter
> whether the other telephone calls were business or personal, either way
> they were a distraction and soured me on the idea of cubicle farms. But
> when you're collaborating it's nice to meet in person once in a while, even
> if the team has access to technologies like electronic whiteboards.
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf
> of Bob Bridges 
> Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2020 3:58 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Attitude of companies toward mainframers working from home?
>
> I think WFH is one place where, especially, everyone's different.  For a
> few years one of my employers had a bunch of us developers working in a
> cubicle environment where the walls were only waist-high.  I've heard since
> then that many folks hate that sort of thing, but the most inconvenient
> part of it, for my money, was that I had less space on which to pin up
> reference pages and racks for various bits of equipment (pens, a forms
> ruler, highlighters etc, fashioned from repurposed paper clips).  What most
> people complained about, the distraction, turned out not to bother me at
> all; there was a continual background of light chatter in which I could
> participate or not.  I found it very pleasant.  I'm not saying there's
> anything wrong with you if you don't; just "folks are different".
>
> (Some years ago _60 Minutes_ apparently did a segment on adults who
> probably had ADD when they were kids, before ADD was a thing.  I missed it,
> but for months after that friends and family members exclaimed to me "Did
> you see that 60-Minutes episode?  They had a picture of Bob Bridges on that
> show!".  I gather people who had ADD before it became a fashionable
> diagnosis simply had to learn to focus without drugs.  Whether for that or
> some other reason, noise just doesn't bother me.)
>
> So you'd think I'd hate working from home, but no.  Sometimes I play loud
> music (and sometimes I set the work aside, pick up my recorder and wail
> along with the music), sometimes I put leftovers in the microwave,
> sometimes I take a call from one of my kids.  But mostly I'm at my desk,
> plugging away until all hours of the night.  I have to remind myself to get
> up and leave the house occasionally - which I read recently is a good idea
> for WFHers anyway.
>
> Maybe it's like the old principle of "dressing for work".  One argument I
> used to hear in favor of wearing ties at work is that it's a sort of mental
> discipline:  If you're dressed to relax, you won't be mentally prepared to
> work.  The argument made sense to me, but once my employers started
> allowing jeans and T-shirts at work I found that (in my case at least) it
> didn't hold water.  Again, I don't doubt that some sort of recognized work
> attire works better for some people, but I don't seem to be a clothes
> person.  YMMV.
>
> Just fortunate, I guess.  If I hated my job, I'll bet I'd be much more
> opinionated about which conditions help or hinder.
>
> ---
> Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313
>
> /* Democracy is where you can say what you think even if you don't think.
> */
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353
> Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2020 14:00
>
> I disagree that it takes more "concentration and effort" to work at home
> than in one of those "bullpen" offices that so many companies now seem to
> favor, with little or no private or semi-private space for any employees.
>
> I have had WFH options as an ordinary applications programmer since the
> late 1980's at various employers, starting back when a 9600 baud dial-up
> connection was the gold standard.  I would far rather be working at home
> than in a "bullpen", as I find those offices far too noisy and
> concentration-killing than any distractions at home could ever be.
>
> I always found that I got far more work done at home than at any office.
> YMMV I suppose, but that has been my experience.
>
> I guess I am also l

Re: Attitude of companies toward mainframers working from home?

[Laurence Chiu]

I've been asked in my current organization to check if I can work from
home. Many of my colleagues said they'd be happy to do it if the
organization gave them lighter laptops to carry home each day. And a couple
raised the question could the VPN infrastructure support that many
concurrent users.   Good questions.

On Sat, Mar 7, 2020, 2:54 PM Mark Jacobs <
0224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> It'll be interesting to see how many companies need to enhance their VPN
> infrastructure if/when they increase their remote workforce. With the
> current coronavirus event, that move to a remote workforce might happen
> sooner than planned.
>
> Mark Jacobs
>
> Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email.
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>
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Friday, March 6, 2020 7:52 PM, Bob Bridges 
> wrote:
>
> > Good point; yeah, that's gotta have an effect, though I suppose it may
> be slight.
> >
> > What I've noticed, in the last five or ten years, is the increasing
> range of the ~types~ of jobs that are being done remotely. Twenty years ago
> I would have been surprised to find that companies were willing to have me
> work on their mainframe security from home. Ten years ago I noticed they
> were doing it with systems programmers, too. Nowadays I see the occasional
> req for remote managers. I suppose there are some jobs that simply cannot
> be done from home, forever, but fewer than before.
> >
> >
> ---
> >
> > Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313
> >
> > /* The worst thing about new books is that they keep us from reading the
> old ones. -Joseph Joubert (1754-1824) */
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson
> > Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 18:56
> >
> > Came across this lengthy thread from last year. No one seemed to mention
> the effects of a world-wide pandemic. You just can't think of everything...
> >
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Re: Attitude of companies toward mainframers working from home?

[zMan]

WFM? Work From McDonalds?

On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 4:42 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:

> I would prefer WFM with an option to occasionally come to the office, but
> that assumes that I have a permanent location in the office where I can red
> things. Back in the old days when I had to read dumps over the telephone
> the distraction of other conversations was an issue. It doesn't matter
> whether the other telephone calls were business or personal, either way
> they were a distraction and soured me on the idea of cubicle farms. But
> when you're collaborating it's nice to meet in person once in a while, even
> if the team has access to technologies like electronic whiteboards.
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf
> of Bob Bridges 
> Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2020 3:58 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Attitude of companies toward mainframers working from home?
>
> I think WFH is one place where, especially, everyone's different.  For a
> few years one of my employers had a bunch of us developers working in a
> cubicle environment where the walls were only waist-high.  I've heard since
> then that many folks hate that sort of thing, but the most inconvenient
> part of it, for my money, was that I had less space on which to pin up
> reference pages and racks for various bits of equipment (pens, a forms
> ruler, highlighters etc, fashioned from repurposed paper clips).  What most
> people complained about, the distraction, turned out not to bother me at
> all; there was a continual background of light chatter in which I could
> participate or not.  I found it very pleasant.  I'm not saying there's
> anything wrong with you if you don't; just "folks are different".
>
> (Some years ago _60 Minutes_ apparently did a segment on adults who
> probably had ADD when they were kids, before ADD was a thing.  I missed it,
> but for months after that friends and family members exclaimed to me "Did
> you see that 60-Minutes episode?  They had a picture of Bob Bridges on that
> show!".  I gather people who had ADD before it became a fashionable
> diagnosis simply had to learn to focus without drugs.  Whether for that or
> some other reason, noise just doesn't bother me.)
>
> So you'd think I'd hate working from home, but no.  Sometimes I play loud
> music (and sometimes I set the work aside, pick up my recorder and wail
> along with the music), sometimes I put leftovers in the microwave,
> sometimes I take a call from one of my kids.  But mostly I'm at my desk,
> plugging away until all hours of the night.  I have to remind myself to get
> up and leave the house occasionally - which I read recently is a good idea
> for WFHers anyway.
>
> Maybe it's like the old principle of "dressing for work".  One argument I
> used to hear in favor of wearing ties at work is that it's a sort of mental
> discipline:  If you're dressed to relax, you won't be mentally prepared to
> work.  The argument made sense to me, but once my employers started
> allowing jeans and T-shirts at work I found that (in my case at least) it
> didn't hold water.  Again, I don't doubt that some sort of recognized work
> attire works better for some people, but I don't seem to be a clothes
> person.  YMMV.
>
> Just fortunate, I guess.  If I hated my job, I'll bet I'd be much more
> opinionated about which conditions help or hinder.
>
> ---
> Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313
>
> /* Democracy is where you can say what you think even if you don't think.
> */
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353
> Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2020 14:00
>
> I disagree that it takes more "concentration and effort" to work at home
> than in one of those "bullpen" offices that so many companies now seem to
> favor, with little or no private or semi-private space for any employees.
>
> I have had WFH options as an ordinary applications programmer since the
> late 1980's at various employers, starting back when a 9600 baud dial-up
> connection was the gold standard.  I would far rather be working at home
> than in a "bullpen", as I find those offices far too noisy and
> concentration-killing than any distractions at home could ever be.
>
> I always found that I got far more work done at home than at any office.
> YMMV I suppose, but that has been my experience.
>
> I guess I am also lucky that my current employer already had a large,
> distributed, and robust VPN infrastructure well suited to dispersing far
> more of the workforce to WFH than they did even before the coronavirus
> event.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf
> Of Steve Beaver
> Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 10:03 PM
>
> Working from home takes a lot of concentration and effort.  It’s not easy
> but I’ve done it for years
>
> -

Re: System Sysmbolic

[Steve Horein]

NetView provides PIPE QSAM:
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSZJDU_6.2.1/com.ibm.itnetviewforzos.doc_6.2.1/dqs_piphqsa.html


... as well as a SUBSYM function:
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSZJDU_6.2.1/com.ibm.itnetviewforzos.doc_6.2.1/dqg_anv_cd2txt.html


Could these be combined to fit your needs?

On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 3:26 PM Steve Beaver  wrote:

> I just may have to cheat the old fashion way and make it a "At Startup" STC
> since it runs  in the blink of an
> Eye.  The JOB is just gathering information at the end of the system IPL
> using a NetView the CLIST that does everything else
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Jousma, David
> Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 3:19 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: System Sysmbolic
>
> Make sure the jobclass the job will run in allows for the use of system
> symbols...the old caveat still applies...symbol resolution at conversion
> time vs execution...
>
>
> 
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>
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>
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> )/ddname dd *,symbols=jclonly
>
> ITschak
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> בתאריך יום ב׳, 9 במרץ 2020, 21:53, מאת Steve Beaver ‏<
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> > How can you use a reference SYSTEM SYMBOLIC in an in-stream job?
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Re: System Sysmbolic

[Steve Beaver]

I just may have to cheat the old fashion way and make it a "At Startup" STC
since it runs  in the blink of an
Eye.  The JOB is just gathering information at the end of the system IPL
using a NetView the CLIST that does everything else

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Make sure the jobclass the job will run in allows for the use of system
symbols...the old caveat still applies...symbol resolution at conversion
time vs execution...


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I'm more interested in DSN=LIBRARY.PDS(&SYSSYM) symbol substitution not a
SYSIN DD *,SYMBOLS=JCLONLY



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)/ddname dd *,symbols=jclonly

ITschak

בתאריך יום ב׳, 9 במרץ 2020, 21:53, מאת Steve Beaver ‏:

> How can you use a reference SYSTEM SYMBOLIC in an in-stream job?
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Re: System Sysmbolic

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Make sure the jobclass the job will run in allows for the use of system 
symbols...the old caveat still applies...symbol resolution at conversion time 
vs execution...

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)/ddname dd *,symbols=jclonly

ITschak

בתאריך יום ב׳, 9 במרץ 2020, 21:53, מאת Steve Beaver ‏:

> How can you use a reference SYSTEM SYMBOLIC in an in-stream job?
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Re: System Sysmbolic

[Steve Beaver]

I'm more interested in DSN=LIBRARY.PDS(&SYSSYM) symbol substitution not a SYSIN 
DD *,SYMBOLS=JCLONLY



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)/ddname dd *,symbols=jclonly

ITschak

בתאריך יום ב׳, 9 במרץ 2020, 21:53, מאת Steve Beaver ‏:

> How can you use a reference SYSTEM SYMBOLIC in an in-stream job?
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Re: System Sysmbolic

[Steve Smith]

Not quite.  Best to go to the source, which is the MVS JCL Reference.
SYMBOLS on the DD card is what you're looking for.

sas


On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 3:05 PM ITschak Mugzach  wrote:

> )/ddname dd *,symbols=jclonly
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Re: System Sysmbolic

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)/ddname dd *,symbols=jclonly

ITschak

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How can you use a reference SYSTEM SYMBOLIC in an in-stream job?

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Re: DevOps Deeper Dive: Mainframe Fallout from BMC's Compuware Buy - DevOps.com

[Allan Staller]

At least the author isn't predicting the imminent demise of the mainframe.

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Re: March 18: Exploring z/OS Container Extensions Live Webcast

[Farley, Peter x23353]

I copied Tomothy's hyperlink and used Chrome to go to the page and the Attend 
button did show up in Chrome.  My employer must have blockers activated for our 
IE11 browser, which they prefer us to use.

I do see what you saw when I clicked the Attend button, it forces you to sign 
up with Meetup to attend the meeting.

Like you I think I'll pass on this one, don’t need another bunch of emails 
flowing in, got too many of those already.

Too bad, really.

Peter

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Tony Harminc
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 1:30 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: March 18: Exploring z/OS Container Extensions Live Webcast

On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 11:45, Farley, Peter x23353  
wrote:
>
> Thanks Ray but I did that and still do not see any red Attend button anywhere 
> on the page.  Do we have to sign up and login for the "Meetup" service to see 
> that?  I did not sign up yet.

Peter - FYI, I have fairly severe ad and tracker blocking in my
(Firefox) browser, and yet I do see the red Attend button in the lower right. 
That said, it's unclear to me why I should have to sign up and provide personal 
information to a third party (Meetup - owned by
WeWork) in order to be able to use yet another third party (Webex - owned by 
Cisco) to attend an online presentation by IBM. IBM used to run all this kind 
of infrastructure itself, and I would be much happier if it had continued to do 
so.

Tony H.

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Re: March 18: Exploring z/OS Container Extensions Live Webcast

[Tony Harminc]

On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 11:45, Farley, Peter x23353
 wrote:
>
> Thanks Ray but I did that and still do not see any red Attend button anywhere 
> on the page.  Do we have to sign up and login for the "Meetup" service to see 
> that?  I did not sign up yet.

Peter - FYI, I have fairly severe ad and tracker blocking in my
(Firefox) browser, and yet I do see the red Attend button in the lower
right. That said, it's unclear to me why I should have to sign up and
provide personal information to a third party (Meetup - owned by
WeWork) in order to be able to use yet another third party (Webex -
owned by Cisco) to attend an online presentation by IBM. IBM used to
run all this kind of infrastructure itself, and I would be much
happier if it had continued to do so.

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Re: SMPE BYPASS(HOLDSYS,HOLDERR)

[Tom Marchant]

On Fri, 6 Mar 2020 20:38:33 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:

>I once had to BYPASS HOLDERR(). It was a new product. There was a hold 
>against the FMID itself. Until the FMID was APPLIed, no further action was 
>possible. So I bypassed that particular HOLDERR, which allowed the FMID 
>itself to APPLY. That in turn allowed me to RECEIVE more PTFs, including one 
>that SUP'ed the problem PTF. I always felt that this was a packaging error, 
>but the result was fine.  

I'm baffled by this. There is no need to APPLY an FMID before you can RECEIVE 
PTFs for that FMID. RECEIVE only requires that the FMID be in the Global zone. 
If the resolving PTF was available, you should have been able to APPLY the FMID 
and the PTF at the same time.

It isn't unusual for an ERROR hold to be placed on an FMID.
If there is no resolving PTF, BYPASS HOLDERR would be necessary.

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Re: March 18: Exploring z/OS Container Extensions Live Webcast

[Farley, Peter x23353]

Thanks Ray but I did that and still do not see any red Attend button anywhere 
on the page.  Do we have to sign up and login for the "Meetup" service to see 
that?  I did not sign up yet.

Peter

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of Ray 
Pearce
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 9:51 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: March 18: Exploring z/OS Container Extensions Live Webcast

If you scroll right to the very bottom of the page (past all of the comments 
etc) you might see a red Attend button

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Farley, Peter x23353
Sent: 09 March 2020 13:47
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: March 18: Exploring z/OS Container Extensions Live Webcast

Hi Timothy,

Thanks for the meeting invitation, it looks interesting, but where on that 
"Meetup" page does one "sign up" to attend the meeting?  I did not see any link 
to "attend the meeting", but maybe I missed something?

Peter

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Timothy Sipples
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 3:40 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: March 18: Exploring z/OS Container Extensions Live Webcast

This month Edward McCarthy and I planned to hold a pair of "Exploring z/OS 
Container Extensions" Meetups in Mumbai and Bengaluru, but global 
epidemiological events are forcing certain precautions. Therefore, we'd be 
delighted if even more people join the new virtual Meetup, live at 10:00 a.m. 
India Standard Time (04:30 UTC) on Wednesday, March 18, 2020. To find out more, 
and to enroll, please visit:

https://www.meetup.com/IBM-Z-Technical-Community-in-Asia-Pacific/events/267773033

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Re: March 18: Exploring z/OS Container Extensions Live Webcast

[Ray Pearce]

If you scroll right to the very bottom of the page (past all of the comments 
etc) you might see a red Attend button

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Farley, Peter x23353
Sent: 09 March 2020 13:47
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: March 18: Exploring z/OS Container Extensions Live Webcast

Hi Timothy,

Thanks for the meeting invitation, it looks interesting, but where on that 
"Meetup" page does one "sign up" to attend the meeting?  I did not see any link 
to "attend the meeting", but maybe I missed something?

Peter

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Timothy Sipples
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 3:40 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: March 18: Exploring z/OS Container Extensions Live Webcast

This month Edward McCarthy and I planned to hold a pair of "Exploring z/OS 
Container Extensions" Meetups in Mumbai and Bengaluru, but global 
epidemiological events are forcing certain precautions. Therefore, we'd be 
delighted if even more people join the new virtual Meetup, live at 10:00 a.m. 
India Standard Time (04:30 UTC) on Wednesday, March 18, 2020. To find out more, 
and to enroll, please visit:

https://www.meetup.com/IBM-Z-Technical-Community-in-Asia-Pacific/events/267773033

Whether you're in Mumbai, Bengaluru, or almost anywhere else in the world, we 
hope to see you online with us. Please don't wait until the last moment, 
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Re: March 18: Exploring z/OS Container Extensions Live Webcast

[Farley, Peter x23353]

Hi Timothy,

Thanks for the meeting invitation, it looks interesting, but where on that 
"Meetup" page does one "sign up" to attend the meeting?  I did not see any link 
to "attend the meeting", but maybe I missed something?

Peter

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Timothy Sipples
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 3:40 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: March 18: Exploring z/OS Container Extensions Live Webcast

This month Edward McCarthy and I planned to hold a pair of "Exploring z/OS 
Container Extensions" Meetups in Mumbai and Bengaluru, but global 
epidemiological events are forcing certain precautions. Therefore, we'd be 
delighted if even more people join the new virtual Meetup, live at 10:00 a.m. 
India Standard Time (04:30 UTC) on Wednesday, March 18, 2020. To find out more, 
and to enroll, please visit:

https://www.meetup.com/IBM-Z-Technical-Community-in-Asia-Pacific/events/267773033

Whether you're in Mumbai, Bengaluru, or almost anywhere else in the world, we 
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Re: Two related alias entry address questions

[Charles Mills]

No, no, @Peter, that's not my point. System messages are system messages and
I don't have to like them but they are what they are. I get to vent here but
I accept that they are highly unlikely to change.

My point below is relative only to IEBCOPY. IGG0nnnW messages are documented
as resulting in a return code 4. IEBCOPY is failing to do that.

The documentation matches what you said. The behavior does not match the
documentation.

Charles


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Behalf Of Peter Relson
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 4:59 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Two related alias entry address questions

>IGG01557W

That's hardly a smoking gun, unless I am misunderstanding. Unless your 
smoking gun is having utility messages within "system messages" and you 
think that IBM will think it's worth the $$ to put them somewhere else 
(let alone deal with a case about it).  Maybe the rule is that "system 
utilities" messages are included within "system messages". If so, I was 
obviously wrong about my expectations.

This is a message from a utility. The rules that it uses, that you showed, 
match what I had said.

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Re: IPL...

[Seymour J Metz]

> how many of us still have to IPL?

And how many have to come to work to do it?


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of 
CarlosM Martinez [carl...@solracz.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2020 10:37 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: IPL...

Well folks off to work to IPL ,, Here at SUNY downstate we IPL on SUNDAYS
for spring forward and fall back. I'm I alone here how many of us still have
to IPL?

I am dunning Z/OS 1.0.13  under Z/VM 5.3 on a Z15.


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Re: IPL...

[Pommier, Rex]

Used automation to spring forward.  Operator came in a few hours later to 
bounce the CICS regions (application limitation, not system) and that's when I 
got the phone call.  Scheduler software had crashed at the moment of the time 
change.  Something about "detected a dynamic time change" then promptly 
crashed.  Guess I'll be researching that today.

Rex

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Gibney, Dave
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 12:17 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [External] Re: IPL...

Watched from home. Haven't IPL'd since SET TIMEZONE became available. This 
morning was first time using a JES $TA and  SFORWARD System Rexx exec. It 
mostly worked. I keep forgetting to add a TIMEINT to the FAXR command.

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> Behalf Of CarlosM Martinez
> Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2020 7:37 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: IPL...
> 
> Well folks off to work to IPL ,, Here at SUNY downstate we IPL on 
> SUNDAYS for spring forward and fall back. I'm I alone here how many of 
> us still have to IPL?
> 
> I am dunning Z/OS 1.0.13  under Z/VM 5.3 on a Z15.
> 
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Re: Two related alias entry address questions

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>IGG01557W

That's hardly a smoking gun, unless I am misunderstanding. Unless your 
smoking gun is having utility messages within "system messages" and you 
think that IBM will think it's worth the $$ to put them somewhere else 
(let alone deal with a case about it).  Maybe the rule is that "system 
utilities" messages are included within "system messages". If so, I was 
obviously wrong about my expectations.

This is a message from a utility. The rules that it uses, that you showed, 
match what I had said.

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design


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Re: March 18: Exploring z/OS Container Extensions Live Webcast

[Massimo Biancucci]

Timothy,

it would be really appreciated if you'll post a recording of the event.

Thanks a lot in advance.
Max

Il giorno lun 9 mar 2020 alle ore 08:40 Timothy Sipples 
ha scritto:

> This month Edward McCarthy and I planned to hold a pair of "Exploring z/OS
> Container Extensions" Meetups in Mumbai and Bengaluru, but global
> epidemiological events are forcing certain precautions. Therefore, we'd be
> delighted if even more people join the new virtual Meetup, live at 10:00
> a.m. India Standard Time (04:30 UTC) on Wednesday, March 18, 2020. To find
> out more, and to enroll, please visit:
>
>
> https://www.meetup.com/IBM-Z-Technical-Community-in-Asia-Pacific/events/267773033
>
> Whether you're in Mumbai, Bengaluru, or almost anywhere else in the world,
> we hope to see you online with us. Please don't wait until the last
> moment, though. Enrollments close about 20 hours before the event, and
> based on past experiences you'll want to test your device and network well
> ahead of time.
>
> - - - - - - - - - -
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> I.T. Architect Executive
> Digital Asset & Other Industry Solutions
> IBM Z & LinuxONE
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March 18: Exploring z/OS Container Extensions Live Webcast

[Timothy Sipples]

This month Edward McCarthy and I planned to hold a pair of "Exploring z/OS 
Container Extensions" Meetups in Mumbai and Bengaluru, but global 
epidemiological events are forcing certain precautions. Therefore, we'd be 
delighted if even more people join the new virtual Meetup, live at 10:00 
a.m. India Standard Time (04:30 UTC) on Wednesday, March 18, 2020. To find 
out more, and to enroll, please visit:

https://www.meetup.com/IBM-Z-Technical-Community-in-Asia-Pacific/events/267773033

Whether you're in Mumbai, Bengaluru, or almost anywhere else in the world, 
we hope to see you online with us. Please don't wait until the last 
moment, though. Enrollments close about 20 hours before the event, and 
based on past experiences you'll want to test your device and network well 
ahead of time.

- - - - - - - - - -
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I.T. Architect Executive
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IBM Z & LinuxONE
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