Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 2 May 2020 to 3 May 2020 (#2020-125)

2020-05-04 Thread Tom Brennan
I don't think it matters much. If the PC gets hacked then the hacker can probably figure out ways to get access to the mainframe whether it's setup to automatically logon or not. On 5/4/2020 1:31 PM, Tom Marchant wrote: On Mon, 4 May 2020 19:14:31 +, Frank Swarbrick wrote: What I would

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 2 May 2020 to 3 May 2020 (#2020-125)

2020-05-04 Thread Gibney, Dave
The vast majority of z/OS users don't need elevated authority, unlike much of Windows Workstations. I don't think it would be a good idea to include Sysprogs and z/OS Security Admins in the extended length world. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf

Re: Using Windows ssh with z/OS

2020-05-04 Thread Don Poitras
In article <6673472942485742.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu> you wrote: > On Mon, 4 May 2020 17:39:39 -0500, Wendell Lovewell wrote: > > > >Installing Rocket's bash provided the cursor history scrolling I was looking > >for. > > > >I don't perceive a difference between

Re: AW: Using Windows ssh with z/OS

2020-05-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 4 May 2020 17:39:39 -0500, Wendell Lovewell wrote: > >Installing Rocket's bash provided the cursor history scrolling I was looking >for. > >I don't perceive a difference between TERM=xterm+256color and TERM=xterm in >the command-line-only functions I use. (I don't see any coloring in

Re: AW: Using Windows ssh with z/OS

2020-05-04 Thread Jack J. Woehr
On 5/4/20 4:39 PM, Wendell Lovewell wrote: I have "bash" as the last line in /etc/profile. This seems to work, but I do have to enter "exit" twice to close the window. Is there a way to invoke bash so that this is not necessary? I'm also not sure if this matters, but "echo $SHELL" still

Re: AW: Using Windows ssh with z/OS

2020-05-04 Thread Wendell Lovewell
Thanks to everyone for the advice. Installing Rocket's bash provided the cursor history scrolling I was looking for. I don't perceive a difference between TERM=xterm+256color and TERM=xterm in the command-line-only functions I use. (I don't see any coloring in the ls or other output for

Re: Mainframe user ID length

2020-05-04 Thread Frank Swarbrick
I know on my MQ instance I have installed on my home Windows machine, MQ truncates my Windows user ID "Frank Swarbrick" to "Frank Swarbr". From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Seymour J Metz Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 2:46 PM To:

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 2 May 2020 to 3 May 2020 (#2020-125)

2020-05-04 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Well, in our case at least the workstation refers to a company provided and managed workstation. We can't log on to z/OS from our personal devices. And we use SSO for many applications. I don't know how it works; only that it does work. From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Mainframe user ID length (not ... Digest ...)

2020-05-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 4 May 2020 15:31:52 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: >On Mon, 4 May 2020 19:14:31 +, Frank Swarbrick wrote: > >>What I would love to see is some sort of "single signon" option, where a user >>would only need >>to sign on to their personal workstation and not need to explicitly sign on

Re: Mainframe user ID length

2020-05-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
The maximum length on Linux is 32; whether MQ will work with a name longer than 12 is a separate issue. There are also Linux commands that will display the UID instead of a username longer than 8. LDAP can map long names to short. I don't know about non-IBM LDAP. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 2 May 2020 to 3 May 2020 (#2020-125)

2020-05-04 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 4 May 2020 19:14:31 +, Frank Swarbrick wrote: >What I would love to see is some sort of "single signon" option, where a user >would only need >to sign on to their personal workstation and not need to explicitly sign on to >z/OS at all. IMO, this is a bad idea unless you can count

Re: S0F9 and SOFD ABENDs and SVC dumps - oh my!

2020-05-04 Thread Tony Harminc
On Mon, 4 May 2020 at 04:23, Barbara Nitz wrote: > Doesn't matter. With an IMS region, you cannot use cancel (z/OS: > "non-cancelable, use force arm"). You cannot use force arm (z/OS: "cancel > first, please"). And you cannot use force because IMS intercepts that and > tells you to terminate

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 2 May 2020 to 3 May 2020 (#2020-125)

2020-05-04 Thread Frank Swarbrick
It's simple enough to write your own CICS signon screen to allow for longer user IDs (and passwords/phrases), but I think CICS would have to add support for the EXEC CICS SIGNON command to allow for a longer user ID. Currently: " USERID(data-value) Specifies the 8-byte sign-on user ID. The

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 2 May 2020 to 3 May 2020 (#2020-125)

2020-05-04 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Interesting stuff. I certainly won't claim to understand it all. What I would love to see is some sort of "single signon" option, where a user would only need to sign on to their personal workstation and not need to explicitly sign on to z/OS at all. It seems like (to me, anyway!) a user could

Re: zOSHF / zFS

2020-05-04 Thread Allan Staller
The root, is not the same as the sysplex root. /* syplex root file system - z/OS sysplex root */ <- /global/zosmf needs to be here ROOT FILESYSTEM('OMVS.') TYPE(ZFS) MODE(RDWR) AUTOMOVE

Re: Mainframe user ID length

2020-05-04 Thread Frank Swarbrick
MQ does, in fact, support that, and I've used it. It's the "Channel Authentication" user mapping feature. I was just wondering if it was "directly supported" without a mapping, if the presented user ID was more than 8 characters. Thanks. From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Mainframe user ID length

2020-05-04 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
> As a side note, why won't JCL accept all legal e-mail address? I thought there was an IBM stated aim to get to this, but I cannot find it. Certainly the recently added (Z/OS 1.3 I think) email field (WAEMAIL) in the RACF WORKATTR segment has a requirement to be unique within the RACF

Re: zOSHF / zFS

2020-05-04 Thread Steve Beaver
Allan It is the first entry off the root All the other zFS of interest are hung off of /REL240 meaning the JAVA's and the Liberty_zos -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 1:48 PM

Re: zOSHF / zFS

2020-05-04 Thread Allan Staller
Is the mountpoint /global/zosmf hung off of the sysplex root? In all cases, I would think any system would complain the ZFS is already mounted. Check the mount mode for the zosmf zfs (s/b R/W) SYSPLEX(YES) should make the zosmf zfs visible to all images provided the mountpoint is available.

Re: Mainframe user ID length

2020-05-04 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Wow! That's a lot to digest. A couple of things. First, I see the following documented: “On z/OS® and UNIX and Linux, the maximum length of a user ID is 12 characters.” From https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSFKSJ_9.1.0/com.ibm.mq.sec.doc/q010300_.htm I wonder how this works if

Re: zOSHF / zFS

2020-05-04 Thread Steve Beaver
We have SYSPLEX(YES) and FORK(COW) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 12:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: zOSHF / zFS Steve, I replied earlier to one of your other

Re: zOSHF / zFS

2020-05-04 Thread Bulent Dülger
Do you see all the zOSMF zfs file systems when you issue the /D Omvs,f command in the LPAR IZUANG1 fails. And what kind of messages do you see in the IZUANG1 joblog referencing failure? Saygılarımla / Best Regards. Bülent Dülger Principal Mainframe IT Consultant and CoFounder ServiZ

Re: zOSHF / zFS

2020-05-04 Thread Jousma, David
Steve, I replied earlier to one of your other threads about this. Unless you are running with Shared Sysplex Root, you cannot mount the same filesystem on multiple systems for READ/WRITE. You will know if you are or are not by BPMPRMxx SYSPLEX (YES|NO) setting.There is quite a bit of

zOSHF / zFS

2020-05-04 Thread Steve Beaver
I have come up against and INTERESTING problem. Ona zOS 2.4 system On my MONOPLEX the zFS for zOSMF showed MOUTED in ISH and when I look at in SDSF FS it's all good zOSMF operates as it should. In my 4-way SYSPLEX the JAVA's and the LIBERTY zFS are correct in ISH and in SDSF FS Now the ZOSMF

Re: Mainframe user ID length

2020-05-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
Your claim was "You can specify pretty much anything you want in JCL." Regardless of why it is coded that way, the code is in the C/I and the error message comes from the C/I. The fact remains that you are limited in what you can specify in JCL. My first thought was that you meant that JECL had

Re: Z/VM LPAR

2020-05-04 Thread Mike Schwab
Never. Dynamic LPAR addition and deletion. On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 12:09 PM Nai, Dean wrote: > > Anyone know if we need a POR to activate a new Z/VM LPAR > > > Dean Nai > > > > > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 2 May 2020 to 3 May 2020 (#2020-125)

2020-05-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
Keep in mind that it would be the short userid that would be used to complete unqualified data set names, except when the prefix is used. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: z/OS performance question

2020-05-04 Thread Edgington, Jerry
Thanks, everyone. We are running z/OS v2.1, just upgraded from z/OS v1.12. Over the weekend, I add a second structure to the CLASSDEF SML. Hopefully, that will help with the issues. Thanks again, Jerry From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of

Z/VM LPAR

2020-05-04 Thread Nai, Dean
Anyone know if we need a POR to activate a new Z/VM LPAR Dean Nai > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: S0F9 and SOFD ABENDs and SVC dumps - oh my!

2020-05-04 Thread Martin Packer
This is the whole "bound to another address space" issue. Does it matter what sequence you take the address spaces down in? And I wonder if the same applies to Db2 and MQ. (I would guess not as the binding/attachment must be different.) Cheers, Martin Martin Packer zChampion, Systems

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 2 May 2020 to 3 May 2020 (#2020-125)

2020-05-04 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Not CESL. On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 6:40 PM Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > There are more CICS users than TSO users. Is there a howto for the CICS > signon screen to accept long IDs and Passphrases? > > On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 6:03 PM Timothy Sipples wrote: > >> Bob Bridges wrote: >> >So maybe -

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 2 May 2020 to 3 May 2020 (#2020-125)

2020-05-04 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
There are more CICS users than TSO users. Is there a howto for the CICS signon screen to accept long IDs and Passphrases? On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 6:03 PM Timothy Sipples wrote: > Bob Bridges wrote: > >So maybe - maybe, I don't know either - if I sign on to z/OS with a > >certificate, or LDAP, or

Re: S0F9 and SOFD ABENDs and SVC dumps - oh my!

2020-05-04 Thread Barbara Nitz
On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 09:09:32 -0400, Peter Relson wrote: > >z/OS FORCE did not work > > >Wanna bet? > >FORCE,ARM runs in the address space so would have been affected. >FORCE does not. Doesn't matter. With an IMS region, you cannot use cancel (z/OS: "non-cancelable, use force arm"). You cannot

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 2 May 2020 to 3 May 2020 (#2020-125)

2020-05-04 Thread Timothy Sipples
Bob Bridges wrote: >So maybe - maybe, I don't know either - if I sign on to z/OS with a >certificate, or LDAP, or anything other than the usual, the sign-on routine >MAKES UP an 8-byte ID and stores it in the ACEE. If so, after that >everything works fine, I guess. I don't think RACF itself