Re: zPDT Learner's Edition

2021-09-24 Thread Skip Robinson
A silver lining to global warming? On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 9:56 AM Ed Jaffe wrote: > On 9/24/2021 8:57 AM, Grant Taylor wrote: > > It seems as if the announcement on IBM's site may have been slightly > > premature (O(weeks)) as it has purportedly been withdrawn and someone > > else in the

Re: zPDT Learner's Edition

2021-09-24 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 9/24/2021 8:57 AM, Grant Taylor wrote: It seems as if the announcement on IBM's site may have been slightly premature (O(weeks)) as it has purportedly been withdrawn and someone else in the community has said that it should be available in mid October. ISTR the "z/OS Hobby License" SHARE

Re: zPDT Learner's Edition

2021-09-24 Thread Tom Brennan
Glad you mentioned "contemporary z/OS". Even if the thing runs slower than an A01, modern software makes it far better for education than the Hercules TK4 setup or even the elephant Ray mentioned. P.S. If I run your email sig through Rexx it comes up with UNIXDIE which is probably not what

The Business Case for **BatchPipes** in the z/OS Base

2021-09-24 Thread Hobart Spitz
As a developer, I love REXX and I love Pipes. Together, they are programmer heaven. Whenever I write something new, whether in z/OS or z/VM, I write a REXX EXEC. Under z/OS, I SPAWN the EXEC when I want to run it in batch. I have used BatchPipes only briefly, but I know Pipes fairly well.

Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: Re: zPDT Learner's Edition

2021-09-24 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Agreed - $120 is something affordable by most, and I'm really excited to see this coming out Jerry Whitteridge jerry.whitteri...@albertsons.com Manager Mainframe Systems & HP Non-Stop Albertsons Companies -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Grant Taylor

Re: zPDT Learner's Edition

2021-09-24 Thread Grant Taylor
On 9/24/21 9:41 AM, Tom Brennan wrote: Like Ray, for years I've been advocating something free or nearly free with every IBM manager I happen to see.  No effect so far.  If this works it could be a big change for future education. I feel like $120 / year is well within the reach of any

Re: zPDT Learner's Edition

2021-09-24 Thread Tom Brennan
Ha ha - and worse for me. Getting a LinkedIn account will be more upsetting to me than the $120 :) Hope I'm allowed to get one of the dongles, even just to see how it all works. Like Ray, for years I've been advocating something free or nearly free with every IBM manager I happen to see. No

Re: The Business Case for Pipes in the z/OS Base (was: Re: REXX - Interpret or Value - Which is better?)

2021-09-24 Thread Hobart Spitz
Martin wote: >I'm not familiar with FANOUT but if it writes a record to, say, two destinations, it's got to copy one of them. Actually not. I know it sounds like magic, but there is still only one copy. I'll give you my best rendition of what I think is happening. Don't worry if you don't get

Re: zPDT Learner's Edition

2021-09-24 Thread John McKown
Sounds nice. I'll need to remove the years of encrustation and rust from my LinkedIn account. On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 8:59 AM Farley, Peter x23353 < 031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Someone on one of the mainframe groups.io lists posted this link to a > LinkedIn article

Re: The Business Case for Pipes in the z/OS Base (was: Re: REXX - Interpret or Value - Which is better?)

2021-09-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 24 Sep 2021 08:01:27 -0500, Hobart Spitz wrote: >Mike wrote: >>Could something be developed similar to a SORTOUT exit that implements >this switch? >BatchPipes fittings are like sort exits on steroids: They can be applied >to almost any DD, ... > SORTWKnn? A problem posed earlier was to

Re: The Business Case for Pipes in the z/OS Base (was: Re: REXX - Interpret or Value - Which is better?)

2021-09-24 Thread Hobart Spitz
Phil, thanks again for the helpful feedback and the great food for thought. Your point is well taken. I'll try to break it down as best I can: MIPS or CPU usage, main memory or working set, and input/output operations. (I'd be happy if someone else has better information.) MIPS is dependent

Re: zPDT Learner's Edition

2021-09-24 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Someone on one of the mainframe groups.io lists posted this link to a LinkedIn article on this offering by Ray Mullins: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/raymullins_ibmz-activity-684653939335168-Ah68 Interesting reading. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: The Business Case for Pipes in the z/OS Base (was: Re: REXX - Interpret or Value - Which is better?)

2021-09-24 Thread Hobart Spitz
Mike wrote: >Could something be developed similar to a SORTOUT exit that implements this switch? BatchPipes fittings are like sort exits on steroids: They can be applied to almost any DD, can use most Pipes filters, do not require compiled code, and they are not restricted to a single program. I

Re: [IBM External] Re: [IBM External] Re: IPL's POR's frequency

2021-09-24 Thread Martin Packer
"a fully configured parallel sysplex" - in the sense you meant it - is something I see less often than I'd like. :-( As a Performance guy, often the conversations I have with customers - based on their data - have a big dollop of Resilience in them. There are those that have embraced "a fully