Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

I say Id Cams, Zee Oh Ess, Ess Queue Ell. IFOX00 is Assembler (XF), the last free assembler in the CP-67, DOS/360, OS/360 lines. It looked like a rewritten Assembler (F), but there were enough differences that an OS/360 Stage 1 sysgen wouldn't assemble on it. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz

Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

Hi Andrew, This reminds me of the time I had temporarily been part of a team to do an ACF2->RACF conversion at a large Canadian bank. (That is a whole story in itself and almost cost me my IBM job.) Anyway ... There was this customer person, who in every meeting kept pronouncing it Ra-KEFF.

Re: location of JCL for started task

The job cards from MSTJCL IEFJOBS Dd is newer that started tasks. Sounds to me like your STC is started by S procname and any JOB card is system generated. If started before JESx, then it's from the proclib concatenation in MSTJCL If after, and your JES proclib concatenation is different, then

Re: location of JCL for started task

Try IPLINFO and look for your PROCLIB concatenation. It should be the first matching member name. Maybe put the library and member name as a comment in each member? On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 6:27 PM Bill Giannelli wrote: > > I see in the system log is was submitted from STCINRDR > > > On Sat, 18

Re: location of JCL for started task

The PROC panel in SDSF can be used to show the JES2 PROCLIB concatenations and from there you can issue "SRCH mask" to hunt for a member name mask. If the STC in question was started under JES2 subsystem, this might help the OP locate the source of the JCL. Note that the SRCH command can be

Re: location of JCL for started task

I don't know IOF. In SDSF, I can select the STC and FIND for EXPANDED FROM to see where it came from. On Saturday, March 18, 2023, Bill Giannelli wrote: > I see in the system log is was submitted from STCINRDR > > > On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 13:02:55 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > >>On Sat, 18 Mar

Re: location of JCL for started task

I see in the system log is was submitted from STCINRDR On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 13:02:55 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 12:26:19 -0500, Bill Giannelli wrote: > >>we have a PDS for job cards for started tasks, which reference our system >>proclib. >>I have a started task that is

Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

On 18/03/2023 11:54 pm, Bob Bridges wrote: Now that you mention this, I guess I'm being inconsistent when I say "see eye see ess" and "eye em ess", but privately chuckle when ignorami say "are ay see eff" instead of "rack-eff". RACF always amused me, because "rack off" is a (Australian?) way

Re: location of JCL for started task

(Aside: Hurray for IOF! I've used SDSF and SYSVIEW, but I still think IOF is easiest. And they had a REXX interface before SDSF did, or at least before I found out that SDSF has one.) --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* I explained what was happening, using words

Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

Most of those are familiar to me, but I've always said "eye dee cams" and "zee oh ess". "SQL" I hear both ways, and pronounce it according to my mood at the time. Never heard of "IFOX00". --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Public opinion: What everyone thinks

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Ah! I always thought "loaf" in that context was a reference to the shape of the head, like "nut". Although come to think of it, maybe "nut" (for "nutbread") is rhyming slang too. I wonder how many other rhyming-slang items have made their way into American English without our being aware of

Re: location of JCL for started task

It is also possible that the task was started from proc IEESYSAS בתאריך שבת, 18 במרץ 2023 ב-20:03 מאת Paul Gilmartin < 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>: > On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 12:26:19 -0500, Bill Giannelli wrote: > > >we have a PDS for job cards for started tasks, which reference

Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

We (in The Netherlands) say “kicks” like the Brits. Sent from Outlook for iOS From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Phil Smith III Sent: Friday, March 17, 2023 8:15:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Question for our

Re: location of JCL for started task

On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 12:26:19 -0500, Bill Giannelli wrote: >we have a PDS for job cards for started tasks, which reference our system >proclib. >I have a started task that is executing, yet I can not find the actual JCL >(Jobcard, etc). I can find the proc. >How can I find where the JCL is being

Re: location of JCL for started task

Bill, does this help at all: https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.2.0?topic=language-setting-up-started-tasks-master-jcl Thank you and best regards, Billy Ashton -- Original Message -- From "Bill Giannelli" To IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Date 3/18/2023 1:42:45 PM Subject Re: location of

Re: location of JCL for started task

hi Steve, We have IOF not SDSF. But I do not see anywhere where it indicates the pds where the JCL came from for that proc. thanks Bill On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 12:30:25 -0500, Steve Beaver wrote: >Go into the running STC in SDSF and in the section that gives the stats it >will be first line >

Re: location of JCL for started task

Go into the running STC in SDSF and in the section that gives the stats it will be first line Sent from my iPhone No one said I could type with one thumb > On Mar 18, 2023, at 12:26, Bill Giannelli wrote: > > we have a PDS for job cards for started tasks, which reference our system >

location of JCL for started task

we have a PDS for job cards for started tasks, which reference our system proclib. I have a started task that is executing, yet I can not find the actual JCL (Jobcard, etc). I can find the proc. How can I find where the JCL is being read from? thanks Bill

Re: how to display storage(memory) for an lpar

thank you, sir! On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 12:00:00 -0400, Gord Tomlin wrote: >On 2023-03-18 11:38 AM, Bill Giannelli wrote: >> I mean, total physical storage (memory) >> On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 10:34:55 -0500, Bill Giannelli >> wrote: >> >>> how do you display the current amount of storage (memory) for

Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

It might be my memory, then. As it happens, using CICS maps laid some of the groundwork for programming 3270 datastreams the hard way (addresses in base 64, Start Field Extended and so on). Roops On Sat, 18 Mar 2023, 15:10 Martin Trübner, < 047eec287bd9-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

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Re: how to display storage(memory) for an lpar

On 2023-03-18 11:38 AM, Bill Giannelli wrote: I mean, total physical storage (memory) On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 10:34:55 -0500, Bill Giannelli wrote: how do you display the current amount of storage (memory) for an LPAR? thanks Bill D M=STOR IEE174I 11.58.56 DISPLAY M 487 REAL STORAGE STATUS

Re: how to display storage(memory) for an lpar

I mean, total physical storage (memory) On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 10:34:55 -0500, Bill Giannelli wrote: >how do you display the current amount of storage (memory) for an LPAR? >thanks >Bill > >-- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

how to display storage(memory) for an lpar

how do you display the current amount of storage (memory) for an LPAR? thanks Bill -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

Was some CICS work done in Denver? Yes, before it came to Hursley. Also "Denver foot hill" was used However, I insist in Dieter Fritz Hans (since the krauts made it in the beginning) ;-) Martin -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

South of England: CICS 'kicks' IMS 'eye em ess' VSAM 'vee sam' IDCAMS 'id cams' (id rhymes with lid) zOS 'zed oss' ('zee arse' makes me snigger internally :-) ) JES3 'jez three' SQL 'sequel' IFOX00 'eye fox zero zero' Incidentally, the DHF prefix in CICS was explained to me as 'Denver Forest

Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

Yes, although it's "A for 'orses" (hay for horses) and so it goes part-way to explaining itself. Proper rhyming slang doesn't explain itself and you just need to know that "loaf" -> "loaf of bread" -> head. Thus "Use your loaf!" was one I heard throughout my teens :-) Roops On Sat, 18 Mar 2023,

Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

On Sat, 18 Mar 2023, at 12:47, Bob Bridges wrote: > I suppose this is based on rhyming slang? I wouldn't begin to know how > to decipher it. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockney_Alphabet where there's explanations. -- Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own.

Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

Now that you mention this, I guess I'm being inconsistent when I say "see eye see ess" and "eye em ess", but privately chuckle when ignorami say "are ay see eff" instead of "rack-eff". I've heard "zoss", but I can't imagine ever adopting it. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336

Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

I suppose this is based on rhyming slang? I wouldn't begin to know how to decipher it. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* The first virtue is to restrain the tongue; he approaches nearest to the gods who knows how to be silent, even though he be in the right. -Cato

Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

I'm a Texan ( it's a whole nother country 鸞). I have started saying zed like the Brits. Zee is too easy to confuse with cee, tee, and pee. On Fri, Mar 17, 2023, 16:00 Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > I was giving a talk to some of our guys in Phoenix about REXX. About an > hour into my talk, one of

Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

This Texan always spelled out CICS, and pronounces the piece of networking equipment, the woodworking tool, and the path taken on a trip with the same vowel value, rOWt. My roommate is from north central Wisconsin, and does so as well...and hates Bobby Troup for "Route 66"'s pronunciation. On

Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

In Australia "rooter" means something rather different, so I suggest you don't look it up. I was always surprised that most of my USA friends say rowt , but they all agree they get their kicks (CICS?) on root 66. Lennie -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of

Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

Thank you very much, the 2nd word is "roden" in today's German language, roden is the infinitive form. "Ich rode, Du rodest, er rodet, ..." etc. a "normal" German verb. Roden means: cut a (large amount) of trees and leave an area without trees (Google translate says: clearing, the German word

Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

Back in the days of analogue mobile phones, I used phonetics a lot! Once or twice, I used the Cockney phonetics ;-) A for 'orses B for mutton C for miles ... X for breakfast Y for girlfriend Z for a joke (i.e. 'said for a joke') On Sat, 18 Mar 2023, 00:23 Bob Bridges, wrote: > Under marginal

Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

> > > I have been sayyng kicks for as long as I have been involved in IBM mainframe, starting in the US in 1982 and on and off until now. The US is not my home country so I count myself as international. Note that since CICS came from Hursley and the Brits say kicks, then that is the right