Re: Insecure security - was SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 01:55:26 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >The combination of a non-display entry field and blocking paste is devasting >to those with awkward keyboards or coordination issues. > My eyesight is bad enough that I rely heavily on spellcheck, copy/paste and audio I/O. Disability

Re: Insecure security - was SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-14 Thread Steve Thompson
I have disabled the camera in my laptop, and put painter's tape over it (because we found out some years ago when I was an IBM employee, that there was a way to have your camera turned on, and the indicator light to not light up). So in Teams (and related), all you see for me is a blue cloud

Re: Insecure security - was SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-14 Thread Tom Brennan
When I'm home my laptop is on a shelf under my desk, connected to a KVM switch so I can swap to it using my desktop keyboard and screen. I had standard black electrical tape covering the camera and on a meeting I expected to see black for my image, but I saw legs (in pants). I'm guessing the

Re: Insecure security - was SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
The combination of a non-display entry field and blocking paste is devasting to those with awkward keyboards or coordination issues. In my current position I use chip and PIN; much harder to crack, less prone to typos. Scanning finger prints or retinas should also work well, although I have no

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Insecure security - was SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-14 Thread Steve Thompson
Painter's tape for when I really do need to use the camera. On 2/14/2024 5:29 PM, Pommier, Rex wrote: Mine's a gum wrapper.  -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Michael Oujesky Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 4:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Insecure security - was SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-14 Thread Joel C. Ewing
It obviously depends on what websites you visit, but there is only one website of the many I use that completely prevents paste of a password by all methods.   Most of the websites I've encountered that prevent a mouse right-click and selection of "Paste" for login fields will still allow the

Re: Insecure security - was SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 17:28:53 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote: > >But I've encountered sites that prohibit OS desktop Paste into password >> field. > >Plenty of those. And some that allow a paste into the email field, but not >into the "verify email" field. That one just reinforces the feeling that >the

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Insecure security - was SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-14 Thread Pommier, Rex
Mine's a gum wrapper.  -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Michael Oujesky Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 4:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Insecure security - was SDSF PS Command column > >Won't work when there is

Re: Insecure security - was SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-14 Thread Tony Harminc
On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 at 16:17, Paul Gilmartin < 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: But I've encountered sites that prohibit OS desktop Paste into password > field. > Plenty of those. And some that allow a paste into the email field, but not into the "verify email" field. That

Re: Insecure security - was SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-14 Thread Michael Oujesky
Won't work when there is electical tape across the camera lens. Webcam when they open the binder to enter the password. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For

Re: Insecure security - was SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 21:18:28 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: > >Regarding passwords - IMHO private notebook/organizer is much better >than saving passwords in web browser (do you remember password >stealers?) or other "nice and automatic" methods. Even IT illiterates >know how to protect paper

Re: Insecure security - was SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-14 Thread Mike Schwab
On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 2:19 PM Radoslaw Skorupka < 0471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Last, but not least: no hacker know method to read paper notebook. > > -- > Radoslaw Skorupka > Lodz, Poland > Webcam when they open the binder to enter the password. -- Mike A

Re: Query - do you have access to GitHub from your z/OS system? And do you have git on your z/OS system?

2024-02-14 Thread Rick Troth
I previously used CVS and then Subversion. About ten years ago I was introduced to Git and have come to prefer it. Q:    1. Do you have access to GitHub from your z/OS system? A: yes* In two recent roles, my team used an internal GitHub server. Personally I use GitHub.com (heavily) and

Re: Query - do you have access to GitHub from your z/OS system? And do you have git on your z/OS system?

2024-02-14 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Yes and yes. Matt Hogstrom “It may be cognitive, but, it ain’t intuitive." — Hogstrom > On Feb 14, 2024, at 14:16, Frank Swarbrick > wrote: > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > on behalf of Lionel B. Dyck >

Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: Query - do you have access to GitHub from your z/OS system? And do you have git on your z/OS system?

2024-02-14 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
No & No Jerry Whitteridge Sr Manager Managed Services jerry.whitteri...@albertsons.com 480 578 7889 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lionel B. Dyck Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 7:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL EMAIL: Query

Re: Insecure security - was SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-14 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 14.02.2024 o 19:32, Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw pisze: I would hope they are instead using a password generator and password safe such as Keepass, Passwordsafe, Lastpass or Bitwarden. Writing things down is not so good. Welcome to the world of zero-trust. Lennie Well, I frequently advice

Re: Query - do you have access to GitHub from your z/OS system? And do you have git on your z/OS system?

2024-02-14 Thread Frank Swarbrick
I have git installed, but we don't make any real use of it at this point. I don't have access to github because our mainframe has no internet access. Do other shops mainframes have internet access? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Lionel B. Dyck

Re: Query - do you have access to GitHub from your z/OS system? And do you have git on your z/OS system?

2024-02-14 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Feb 14, 2024, at 8:20 AM, Lionel B. Dyck <057b0ee5a853-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Questions: 1. Do you have access to GitHub from your z/OS system? Yes 2. Do you have git installed on your z/OS system? Yes Thank you I spent much of the past two days helping one of our

Re: Insecure security - was SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-14 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
I would hope they are instead using a password generator and password safe such as Keepass, Passwordsafe, Lastpass or Bitwarden. Writing things down is not so good. Welcome to the world of zero-trust. Lennie -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pommier,

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Insecure security - was SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-14 Thread Pommier, Rex
I've used them in the past too, but I would guess the average person on the street just writes their obtuse passwords down. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jay Maynard Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 10:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

AI strikes again in another court...

2024-02-14 Thread Steve Thompson
This is from a Legal news paper (as it were) [law360.com] AI-Generated Fake Case Law Leads To Sanctions In Wage Suit By Rose Krebs The owner of a Missouri-based technology business that was ordered to pay an ex-employee roughly $311,000 in unpaid wages, damages and legal costs was sanctioned

Re: Insecure security - was SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-14 Thread Jay Maynard
This is what password managers were created for. I use Bitwarden, and can't recommend them highly enough. On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 9:13 AM Pommier, Rex wrote: > You make a good point about making security so onerous one can't use it. > At my employer, we use a third party cloud application

Re: How read Cyl 0 from within a program?

2024-02-14 Thread Tom Brennan
I just took a look. That's a good example of an EXCP with its own CCW, which is the way I would have attempted this. Just wondering, how did you find this on the CBT? I always have to ask Sam. On 2/14/2024 5:14 AM, Joe Monk wrote: Take a look at the CBT, file 846. I believe the TRK0SAVE

Insecure security - was SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-14 Thread Pommier, Rex
Steve, You make a good point about making security so onerous one can't use it. At my employer, we use a third party cloud application (unnamed to conceal the perpetrator) that doesn't use multi-factor yet. However their password to get in has to be a minimum of 16 characters. No problem,

Re: SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-14 Thread Steve Thompson
Seymour, this is a very interesting observation you made. I'm now experiencing similar With a certain banking system we use, you logon, and then you have to prove you are the person you say you are by providing more information. While having 2 factor authentication. With a certain cell

Re: Missing LMOD doing APPLY

2024-02-14 Thread Gord Neill
We opened a ticket with IBM, and they said that installing z/OS 3.1 using CBPDO on a brand new system is not supported, we need to use ServerPac. >From the z/OS 3.1 Planning for Installation manual: If you are a new customer and did not have z/OS installed previously, use one of the following

Query - do you have access to GitHub from your z/OS system? And do you have git on your z/OS system?

2024-02-14 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
As part of the z/OS Open Tools project I'm asking if your z/OS system has access to GitHub. The reason for this question is that IBM, ISVs, and open-source developers are increasingly using GitHub. Questions: 1. Do you have access to GitHub from your z/OS system? 2. Do you have

Re: How read Cyl 0 from within a program?

2024-02-14 Thread Joe Monk
Take a look at the CBT, file 846. I believe the TRK0SAVE program takes the IPL records from a DASD and writes them out to a dataset. https://www.cbttape.org/ftp/cbt/CBT846.zip Joe On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 12:20 PM Charles Mills wrote: > I am interested in writing a program to read the IPL

Re: Banks migrate from mainframes to AI-driven cloud

2024-02-14 Thread Allan Staller
Classification: Confidential Thae last LzLabs project I was involved in was finally completed 1 1/2 years late and the overrun ate up all of the potential saving to the client. LzLabs now has a total AFAIK 2 "production" implementations. My USD $0.02 worth -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: Banks migrate from mainframes to AI-driven cloud

2024-02-14 Thread Andrew Wilkinson
Perhaps I misunderstood the original remark.The business of migrating to the cloud must be doing well if IBM has decided to sue.I don't know how the actual case is progressing. Cheers,Andrew -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff