Re: Is z/OS FTP encrypted?
Sftp would need to be on the clients (OP) desktop/laptop - and it probably is with all recent operating systems. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2024 11:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is z/OS FTP encrypted? On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 08:33:52 -0500, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >You might try sftp - even if you don't have the Dovetail Co:Z Toolkit for z/OS >access you can still sftp to your omvs filesystem and then use OGET or cp to >copy into z/OS datasets. That is 100% secure. > Does that "sftp" require that the OP has sftp available on his desktop? (BTW, is IND$FILE z/FS savvy?) -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Is z/OS FTP encrypted?
You might try sftp - even if you don't have the Dovetail Co:Z Toolkit for z/OS access you can still sftp to your omvs filesystem and then use OGET or cp to copy into z/OS datasets. That is 100% secure. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2024 8:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is z/OS FTP encrypted? The OP was just asking a casual question, and as soon as he heard that z/OS FTP isn't encrypted by default he went on to other matters. I've been following the subsequent conversation but for now I'm just gritting my teeth and using IND$FILE, which is what everyone else at that installation seems to do anyway. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Hmmm, I found a strange piece of plastic on the floor that looks like it broke off of something, but I have no idea what. Better save it in the junk drawer until I die. */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lionel B. Dyck Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 13:19 Did the OP ever confirm that sftp was not an option? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Is z/OS FTP encrypted?
Did the OP ever confirm that sftp was not an option? Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ISPF/PDF list/log file allocations
Another option for list and log is to allocate them to sysout. That means that you need to have a different means to access them so I wrote something and documented it here https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/blogs/lionel-dyck 2/2022/06/02/ispf-list-and-log-improved-access?communityKey=200b84ba-972f-4f 79-8148-21a723194f7f Hope this helps - true it is different but it does work well once you get used to it (about 30 seconds +/-) Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Michael Oujesky Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 7:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISPF/PDF list/log file allocations Exit ISPF normally and when it asks for Log/List options, select option 4 (Keep data set and allocate new data set). You also have the option of specifying the space via: * Lines per page . . . . 60 * Primary pages . . . . 10 * Secondary pages . . . 10 Note that the log is not blocked due to how ISPF writes to it: Organization . . . : PS Record format . . . : VA Record length . . . : 125 Block size . . . . : 129 1st extent blocks . : 648 Secondary blocks . : 582 I usually make my own VBA copy of it when it gets too large. Michael At 03:36 PM 9/16/2024, Bert de Wet wrote: >Where can the settings for ISPF-LOG and -LIST files be changed? >The default we have is pri: 150trks, sec.10trks. Some of our users are >running out of space (E37 abends). > >Thanks > >-- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Is z/OS FTP encrypted?
Any chance you can use sftp (ssh) ? FTP between the mainframes would not be encrypted unless you are using TLS of some flavor. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 1:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Is z/OS FTP encrypted? Newbie question: I've just started work for a new client, and they (understandably) don't care for me using Win FTP to load up my REXX tools because it's not encrypted; the REXX execs aren't secret, but my ID and password should be. But once I've laboriously gotten a bunch of things uploaded using IND$FILE, what about moving them from one complex to another? Is FTP encrypted once I'm talking between two mainframes? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* ...in February, United States coalition-building efforts are dealt a severe blow when France announces that it will not participate in the impending Iraq invasion, a decision that, in the words of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, "could seriously impair our ability to surrender". -Dave Barry’s 2003 Year in Review */ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Is z/OS FTP encrypted?
Perchance are you connecting via VPN? Or using FTP TLS? In those cases it would be encrypted but otherwise clear as day. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 1:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Is z/OS FTP encrypted? Newbie question: I've just started work for a new client, and they (understandably) don't care for me using Win FTP to load up my REXX tools because it's not encrypted; the REXX execs aren't secret, but my ID and password should be. But once I've laboriously gotten a bunch of things uploaded using IND$FILE, what about moving them from one complex to another? Is FTP encrypted once I'm talking between two mainframes? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* ...in February, United States coalition-building efforts are dealt a severe blow when France announces that it will not participate in the impending Iraq invasion, a decision that, in the words of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, "could seriously impair our ability to surrender". -Dave Barry’s 2003 Year in Review */ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Simple Rexx question
You can use listdsi - check sysreason for a value of 3 A value of 2 indicates it isn't allocated Sysmsglvl2 has IKJ58403I THE DATA SET IS A TYPE THAT CAN NOT BE PROCESSED. hth Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Billy Ashton Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2024 2:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Simple Rexx question Hi all, I have a simple question, but my searches are eluding me (maybe I don't know what to ask for). In my Rexx program, before I try to do an EXECIO against it, I want to do something to make sure the DD statement is there and control the error. I tried ListDSI, but that only works on DASD files and not on instream (DD *) data. How can I test that I have the ABCXYZ DD statement allocated, if it is DD * or DD DATA? Likewise, how can I test for DD JKLMNO that is allocated to SYSOUT=* to be sure it is there (as I am writing via EXECIO to it)? Thank you and best regards, Billy Ashton -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Improving OMVS performance using WLM ?
Are there any studies, white papers, redbooks, presentations, articles, or ... that address how to use WLM to effectively improve the performance of long running shell scripts invoked via (a) TSO OMVS, (b) Batch job, or (c) ssh? With the script spawning several address spaces this can be a challenge. Thanks for any pointers. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Minor Announcement
Congratulations on your new role and thank you for ALL your help with DFSort. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Sri Hari Kolusu Sent: Friday, August 16, 2024 11:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Minor Announcement Hi All, Today is my last day as a developer with team DFSORT. I am still with IBM and will be moving to a new role in DevOps effective August 19th, 2024. So, answering DFSORT related questions will not be as quick as I did earlier. I *may* continue to answer questions, but it depends on my responsibilities/availability/flexibility of my new team. Thanks, Kolusu -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Sic transit PDF?
Colin - agree 10,000% - the thumbs up/down is cute but I use the PDFs and there is no way to report issues with a PDF. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Colin Paice Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2024 11:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Sic transit PDF? I sometimes got replies from the ID people when I raised comments the old way. With the thumbs up and down, I've yet to see any ofthe many comments I made actually make it into the books. I've noticed that if you are mid-comment, go to another page, eg to copy some text, come back to the comments box, and it sometimes automatically sends your partial comment, before you can complete it Also, I've reported one problem, then spotted another problem, but you cannot raise more than one comment a day on a page, so you have to find another version of the page write your comment in an editor, raise the comment, and paste it all in. All in all, quite a deterrent to raising comments. Colin On Thu, 15 Aug 2024 at 16:30, Peter Relson wrote: > Gil wrote > > I was in an off-list discussion with a Developer where I mentioned > where an M&C PDF Programmer response contained insufficient > information to resolve a problem. Developer supplied URL of the web > page, which contains the necessary information. > > Catch-22: RCF process is gone. Doc problems can be reported by > Feedback via a web page which, in this case, does not exhibit the > problem. > > > The official word is: > > Use "was this topic helpful?" for the corresponding web page, and > describe the problem and that the problem is with the PDF. > You can make your own choice of whether to go with "thumbs up" or > "thumbs down" but I suspect I know what most will choose. > > Peter Relson > z/OS Core Technology Design > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Filezilla & ZOS "native" datasets?
Look for Data Set File System in the IBM pubs. Lionel B. Dyck < Website: GitHub.com/lbdyck Sent from my iPhone 15 Pro Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden > On Aug 3, 2024, at 1:11 PM, Mark Jacobs > <0224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > There doesn't seem to be a DSFS users guide available, but here's a link to > a document that was published in our monthly technical newsletter which > describes what DSFS does and how it can be used. > > https://drive.proton.me/urls/FT10X4RGWR#KsrsAJeFBorL > > Mark Jacobs > > > Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. > > GPG Public Key - > https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com > > >> On Saturday, August 3rd, 2024 at 1:00 PM, Paul Gilmartin >> <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 3 Aug 2024 16:35:05 +, Mark Jacobs wrote: >>> >>> Not directly but you might be able to leverage DSFS to do so. >> >> Don't know. Where's the DSFS User's Guide? >> >> Might one of the ISV products, Dovetailed or Rocket facilitate this? >> >> (S)FTP was not designed for GUI or scripting. It presumes human >> intelligence (AI?) to suss the content of the host's native directory >> listing. >> >>>> On Saturday, August 3rd, 2024 at 12:12 PM, Steve Estle wrote: >>> >>>> Recently downloaded Filezilla FTP client to compare with WinSCP which I've >>>> had for awhile on my PC. It appears to be a bit more "mainframe / ZOS" >>>> aware, but am trying to tailor it to be able to view traditional ZOS >>>> datasets via secure connections (SFTP) - or if that can't work I'm open to >>>> using it via native FTP as well. What I'm seeing when I connect with >>>> Filezilla to some of our systems with native FTP is by default the >>>> directory will display a list of native ZOS datasets under my TSO userid >>>> high-level-qualifier (like ISPF 3.4) but when I connect via SFTP my >>>> default directory is my Unix system file system (ZFS) for my home >>>> directory. >>>> >>>> So has anyone figured out a way to get a ZOS dataset listing directory >>>> when connecing with SFTP - if so, what needs to be tailored to make that >>>> happen? Anyone who has tips/tricks in using Filezilla is much appreciated. >> >> >> -- >> gil >> >> -- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
A blast from the past
>From the SHARE Songbook (back when we used to sing at SHARE) Song 028 Take Me Out To The Ball Game Take me out to the SHARE meet. Let me go down to SCIDS. So I can sing the old 'HASPenpoof song.' Let me write some HASP res-o-lu-tions; When they accept it's so neat. For it's two, three, four times a year At the old SHARE meet. repeat No wooden paddle required. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Problem when transfereing PDS members using ftp.
Agree 10,000% Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2024 10:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Problem when transfereing PDS members using ftp. Mr. Kolusu, I just want to give a public "thank you" for your service to this list. You are always quick to jump in with help well outside of your "official" duties with DFSort. Your responses are always courteous and professional. Many of us on this list have been recipients of your assistance when we've come here for guidance. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Sri Hari Kolusu Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2024 4:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Problem when transfereing PDS members using ftp. > When he looked at the destination he say that the last update time was 3 hours less than it should have been. Gadi, Check this https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/time-tags-inco rrect-ftp-generated-ispf-statistics__;!!KjMRP1Ixj6eLE0Fj!sfbyXOvCvvACBz1kNPh o_k4Ugi-EcQOpwoRpNVeu0qGgCFEb2BGleP69PvVnwQtcTqmIHrabIlelRQkccaI$ Thanks, Kolusu DFSORT Development IBM Corporation -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- The information contained in this message is confidential, protected from disclosure and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, distribution, copying, or any action taken or action omitted in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Tech Library -- Where is it hidden now
By drilling down you can find that link - https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=documentation-pdf-files-zos-310-library I was thinking that from the main link you can find that for any release. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Sri Hari Kolusu Sent: Monday, July 15, 2024 12:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Tech Library -- Where is it hidden now > You can find all the releases here https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos - > just drill down for the release you want from 2.1 to 3.1 Lionel, Thanks. I am aware of the main publications link for all the releases, however Gil mentioned that about MONTHLY refresh of the "2.5 Adobe Indexed PDF/PDX Collection", I wanted that link. Thanks, Kolusu -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Tech Library -- Where is it hidden now
You can find all the releases here https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos - just drill down for the release you want from 2.1 to 3.1 Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Sri Hari Kolusu Sent: Monday, July 15, 2024 12:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Tech Library -- Where is it hidden now >> But it was better at 2.5 when there was apparently a monthly refresh of the >> "2.5 Adobe Indexed PDF/PDX Collection", with the files date stamped and >> including the .pdx keyword index. Gil, Do you have the link to 2.5 that shows the monthly refresh ? May be we can get a similar link to 3.1 too. Thanks, Kolusu -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Tech Library -- Where is it hidden now
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos and then drill down and you'll find it Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Thompson Sent: Friday, July 12, 2024 7:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Tech Library -- Where is it hidden now I have been doing various searches, and M/S pilot doesn't help. I can't seem to find a link to the z/OS (and related) pdf documentation. I'd like to download the current z/OS environment manuals (or a subset specific to what I'm working on). Anyone know the link or keywords that would find it. I'm getting tired of running into IBM sales literature. :) -- Regards, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
to tbsarg/tbscan or just tbscan - that is the question
Cross posting to ISPF-L and IBM-Main So, I can do "tbsarg table namecond(var,eq)" "tbscan table" Or I can do "tbscan table arglist(var)" Both provide the same results, at least in my limited testing. What advantages are there in using the tbsarg/tbscan compared to just using tbscan? Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM z/OS 3.1 zsh command delete issue
Let me try to answer 1. Using putty 2. no other .zshrc changes needed 3. putty to z/OS has issue but putty to ubuntu does not 4. same issue using windows command window ssh to z/OS and ubuntu is still good Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rick Troth Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 1:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM z/OS 3.1 zsh command delete issue > # Fix Delete Key > bindkey '^[[3~' delete-char Is this sufficient? Once that's added to~.zshrc is there any other work needed? If that addition makes it work then I'd say run with it and don't flag it as a ZSH bug. The reason I say this is that delete key has been a pain in the arse on Unix systems for decades. BASH gets around the problem by having its own belt-and-suspenders logic for handling a variety of byte sequences for "delete". Though I'm surprised you don't run into the same problem on Linux. Probably need more context: what terminal emulation is happening? I mean, are you using GNOME term on Linux and PuTTY on Windows (for SSH into USS)? The root of the problem is in the terminal device driver logic. Historically there was >one< keystroke which was assigned to "delete" and perhaps another for "backspace". But more than that, the musical terminals (and now mostly emulators) amplify the challenge. We're not all on a VT100 anymore. Also, can one have multiple bindings in ~.zshrc? Dunno if this helps, but a fun topic. -- R; <>< On 6/18/24 7:18 AM, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: > When using the new zsh the delete key does not work properly as it > replaces the deleted characters with a ~. > > IBM Idea ZOS-I-4046 requesting IBM to fix this has been marked as 'Not > under consideration' while providing in the comments a workaround: > > Add the following to your .zshrc file: > > # Fix Delete Key > bindkey '^[[3~' delete-char > > Note: I have not had to do this on any other zsh implementation (think > several flavors of Linux). > > > Lionel B. Dyck <>< > Github:https://github.com/lbdyck > System Z Enthusiasts Discord:https://discord.gg/sze > > “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is > what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - > John Wooden > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email tolists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
IBM z/OS 3.1 zsh command delete issue
When using the new zsh the delete key does not work properly as it replaces the deleted characters with a ~. IBM Idea ZOS-I-4046 requesting IBM to fix this has been marked as 'Not under consideration' while providing in the comments a workaround: Add the following to your .zshrc file: # Fix Delete Key bindkey '^[[3~' delete-char Note: I have not had to do this on any other zsh implementation (think several flavors of Linux). Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: As a long-time Rexx programmer
Just be glad we do have a REXX API to invoke SDSF 😊 Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Phil Smith III Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2024 1:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: As a long-time Rexx programmer ...am I the only one who SMH at the documentation for things like ISFEXEC (https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=language-issuing-commands-isfexec)? It reads like it was written by someone who doesn't quite understand how variables/literals work in Rexx: -- You issue commands with the ISFEXEC host command as follows: Address SDSF "ISFEXEC sdsf-command (options)" sdsf-command is a supported SDSF command, including any parameters. If the command contains special characters or blanks, enclose it in single quotation marks. -- The rest of the doc seems to be similar. If only IBM had some Rexx experience.oh, wait. Yes, I'm being snide, but this is just grim. And embarrassing. I realize unlikely to be fixed at this late date, of course. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CVT and PROCLIB
This should work for you
/* rexx */
x = isfcalls('on')
Address SDSF "ISFEXEC proc"
do i = 1 to dsname.0
say dsname.i
end
x = isfcalls('off')
You can also see my LSTPROC at https://github.com/lbdyck/lstproc which is an
ISPF dialog that uses ISRDDN to display the proclibs.
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Subject: CVT and PROCLIB
Is there any way to obtain a list of PROCLIB concatenation programatically?
(I mean REXX)
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Re: UUID for z/OS Instances
Take a look at https://www.newera.com/INFO/032223_Marna_I_Didnt_Know.pdf - page 31 Planned for z/OS 3.1, is the capability to correlate a UUID with a running z/OS system, which can then programmatically retrieve the SMP/E CSI which represents the running system when used as directed. ❖ This function is limited to the z/OS operating system Software Instance only. Separately deployed program products and middleware are not applicable, hope this helps (found the answer by asking on the System Z Enthusiasts discord Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Matt Hogstrom Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2024 12:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: UUID for z/OS Instances I wasn’t clear, I’m looking for a means to uniquely identify the instance. I can gen a UUID but I’m looking to see if there is a generally accepted approach to uniquely identify a z/OS instance. Matt Hogstrom > On Jun 4, 2024, at 12:39, lbd...@gmail.com wrote: > > I can confirm that it is available with the z/OS Open Tools collection. > > /u/>uuidgen -h > > Usage: > uuidgen [options] > > Create a new UUID value. > > Options: > -r, --randomgenerate random-based uuid > -t, --time generate time-based uuid > -n, --namespace ns generate hash-based uuid in this namespace > available namespaces: @dns @url @oid @x500 > -N, --name name generate hash-based uuid from this name > -m, --md5 generate md5 hash > -s, --sha1 generate sha1 hash > -x, --hex interpret name as hex string > > -h, --help display this help > -V, --version display version > > /u/>uuidgen -V > uuidgen from util-linux 2.39.3-dirty > > Lionel B. Dyck <>< > Github: https://github.com/lbdyck > System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze > > “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you > are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden > > From: Rick Troth > Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2024 11:35 AM > To: Matt Hogstrom > Cc: Ed Jaffe ; Lionel B Dyck > ; Phil Smith III > Subject: Re: UUID for z/OS Instances > > [off-list, but including a few luminaries] See if you have the > 'uuidgen' command in USS/OMVS. > I don't know how/where you would apply a unique ID of that size/length/kind, > but unique IDs are commonly produced by tools such as 'uuidgen'. > I suspect the command I'm thinking of is *not* stock USS but might be > available from the "Open Tools" collection. > > -- R; <>< > > > On 6/4/24 12:15 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote: > I’m looking for a way to uniquely identify a z/OS instance across multiple > clients/customers. I see that z/OSMF has a get UUID but it appears to be for > the z/OSMF instance and not for each z/OS. > > Is anyone aware of a generally accepted way to uniquely identify an instance? > > I’m asking because when emitting OTel telemetry data its common to > have a UUID for an instance but that concept has really been foreign > to z/OS > > > > Matt Hogstrom > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to mailto:lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO > IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Bash freeware for OMVS
Or - you can get it from IBM via ShopZ for 2.5 or 3.1 - included with your existing S&S Read about it here https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/blogs/hyder-naqvi/2024/05/31/open-enterprise-foundation-for-zos?communityKey=64d1d1bd-66bc-4ecb-b9e8-0372b18c5bcb -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Bash freeware for OMVS
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Re: Mounted file systems vs BPXPRMxx
I have just cobbled together such a tool - see https://github.com/lbdyck/zfsckmnt Comments/suggerstions/improvements welcome Released under the Copyleft license. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Upgrade by cutting a wire?
I recall hearing the 370/135 and 370/145 could be upgraded to 370/138 or 370/148 with a snip but that was 2ne/3rd hand. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Phil Smith III Sent: Friday, May 31, 2024 8:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Upgrade by cutting a wire? I remember hearing that some Amdahl 370 clone was upgradable by cutting a wire. Anyone else ever hear this? Can't find a cite on the web. Just curiosity, no real point to this...! (But it is Friday.) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mounted file systems vs BPXPRMxx
I don't have anything to test on so I'll trust you Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 1:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mounted file systems vs BPXPRMxx Lionel, My experience is only shows missing, or mount options that don’t match parmlib. Nothing “new”. Dave Jousma Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Lionel B. Dyck <057b0ee5a853-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Date: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 2:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mounted file systems vs BPXPRMxx If you have health checker running and sdsf then use the SDSF HC command and look at the USS_PARMLIB display which should let you know of changes (add/change/remove) to mounted filesystems. I learned this from Steven Perva over on the System If you have health checker running and sdsf then use the SDSF HC command and look at the USS_PARMLIB display which should let you know of changes (add/change/remove) to mounted filesystems. I learned this from Steven Perva over on the System Z Enthusiasts discord 😊 Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/lbdyck__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!kEAaRkKthDhNSbo7Q34P4TjLR0hzRAypDFJYVFQyrKI-1H4xN8IsLMPFPglgsO5gd-1AicidGVqU9o-ttLJKZ_vmusRP3mQ9fvs$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/lbdyck__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!kEAaRkKthDhNSbo7Q34P4TjLR0hzRAypDFJYVFQyrKI-1H4xN8IsLMPFPglgsO5gd-1AicidGVqU9o-ttLJKZ_vmusRP3mQ9fvs$> System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://discord.gg/sze__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!kEAaRkKthDhNSbo7Q34P4TjLR0hzRAypDFJYVFQyrKI-1H4xN8IsLMPFPglgsO5gd-1AicidGVqU9o-ttLJKZ_vmusRPO9yiidI$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/discord.gg/sze__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!kEAaRkKthDhNSbo7Q34P4TjLR0hzRAypDFJYVFQyrKI-1H4xN8IsLMPFPglgsO5gd-1AicidGVqU9o-ttLJKZ_vmusRPO9yiidI$> “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 12:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Mounted file systems vs BPXPRMxx Are there any tools/products/methods to assist in ascertain whether there are any manually mounted file systems that aren't in a BPXPRMxx member. I know we can get a list of file systems that are mounted in the sysplex and use brute force to compare it against BPXPRMxx but was wondering if someone already cracked that nut. Mark Jacobs Sent from [ProtonMail](https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://protonmail.com__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!kEAaRkKthDhNSbo7Q34P4TjLR0hzRAypDFJYVFQyrKI-1H4xN8IsLMPFPglgsO5gd-1AicidGVqU9o-ttLJKZ_vmusRP2OR6l3c$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/protonmail.com__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!kEAaRkKthDhNSbo7Q34P4TjLR0hzRAypDFJYVFQyrKI-1H4xN8IsLMPFPglgsO5gd-1AicidGVqU9o-ttLJKZ_vmusRP2OR6l3c$>), Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjacobs@protonmail.com__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!kEAaRkKthDhNSbo7Q34P4TjLR0hzRAypDFJYVFQyrKI-1H4xN8IsLMPFPglgsO5gd-1AicidGVqU9o-ttLJKZ_vmusRPIGuR67E$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjacobs@protonmail.com__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!kEAaRkKthDhNSbo7Q34P4TjLR0hzRAypDFJYVFQyrKI-1H4xN8IsLMPFPglgsO5gd-1AicidGVqU9o-ttLJKZ_vmusRPIGuR67E$> -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archiv
Re: Mounted file systems vs BPXPRMxx
If you have health checker running and sdsf then use the SDSF HC command and look at the USS_PARMLIB display which should let you know of changes (add/change/remove) to mounted filesystems. I learned this from Steven Perva over on the System Z Enthusiasts discord 😊 Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 12:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Mounted file systems vs BPXPRMxx Are there any tools/products/methods to assist in ascertain whether there are any manually mounted file systems that aren't in a BPXPRMxx member. I know we can get a list of file systems that are mounted in the sysplex and use brute force to compare it against BPXPRMxx but was wondering if someone already cracked that nut. Mark Jacobs Sent from [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com), Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mounted file systems vs BPXPRMxx
And ISPF 3.17 also has an option to show all mounted filesystems by either mount point or file system name. There are also some zfs tools that can show you what is mounted, including usage info. But nothing that will compare the currently mounted filesystems with what's defined in the PARMLIB BPXPRMxx members. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 12:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mounted file systems vs BPXPRMxx Not aware of anything, but will point out there is the SDSF FS option to display all mounted file systems. Dave Jousma Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering Are there any tools/products/methods to assist in ascertain whether there are any manually mounted file systems that aren't in a BPXPRMxx member. I know we can get a list of file systems that are mounted in the sysplex and use brute force to compare it against BPXPRMxx but was wondering if someone already cracked that nut. Mark Jacobs This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mounted file systems vs BPXPRMxx
That sounds like an interesting exercise. Can you join the System Z Enthusiasts discord (https://discord.gg/sze) and then direct message me and maybe we can work something out. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 12:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Mounted file systems vs BPXPRMxx Are there any tools/products/methods to assist in ascertain whether there are any manually mounted file systems that aren't in a BPXPRMxx member. I know we can get a list of file systems that are mounted in the sysplex and use brute force to compare it against BPXPRMxx but was wondering if someone already cracked that nut. Mark Jacobs Sent from [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com), Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: hints and tips and help for Git and GitHub for mainframers
I might be able to help you with some that focus on using Git using ZIGI. DM me on discord or direct email. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rick Troth Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 8:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: hints and tips and help for Git and GitHub for mainframers howdy folks ... I was asked this week for help with Git. The target audience is mainframe people. (But I don't expect to be presenting.) I had previously helped this particular group get on-board using Git and GitHub, but that was several months ago. They're again looking at it, so their leader asked me for whatever material I might have. But I got nuthin. I don't see a PowerPoint deck in any of my stuff. Therefore, does anyone here have a PPT deck or a SHARE PDF for a Git/GitHub how-to for mainframers? thanks -- R; <>< -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: REXX SDSF
Take a look at this excellent tool (free) https://planetmvs.com/freeware/tcpipm.html Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Roberto Halais Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 1:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: REXX SDSF I was just issuing the command: D tcpip,tn3270,t,conn,max=* In order to list all tn3270 connections and capture it in the rexx. It was captured in the rexx but it was also written to the system log. Output was around 8,000 lines. That’s why I wanted to avoid writing to system log. Politics: Poli (many) - tics (blood sucking parasites) On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 1:48 PM Paul Gilmartin < 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Tue, 21 May 2024 12:24:14 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: > > >I certainly hope not. The system log is supposed to be a log of > >things > done to the system. > > > I'd hardly regard DISPLAY, for example, as "things done to". If > there's a security concern, the command should be rejected, not executed and > logged. > > But what was the OP trying to do, and what alternatives exist? > > > >On Tue, 21 May 2024 13:19:03 -0400, Roberto Halais wrote: > > > >>I have a rexx that issues console commands thru ISFEXEC. Is there a > >>way > to > >>prevent the command output to not appear in the system syslog. > >>I capture the output in my rexx but it also appears in the system log. > > > -- > gil > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: REXX SDSF
If you are just doing displays then take a look at using sdsf rexx to get at the same information. If you can use an SDSF dialog command then you can using sdsf rexx - and you can let sdsf help you using the RGEN command in the dialog. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Roberto Halais Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 12:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: REXX SDSF Thank you all! I’ll look for other ways. Politics: Poli (many) - tics (blood sucking parasites) On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 1:28 PM Lionel B. Dyck < 057b0ee5a853-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Tom is correct - any/all operator commands entered into the system > will appear in the log. > > > Lionel B. Dyck <>< > Github: https://github.com/lbdyck > System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze > > “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what > you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Tom Marchant > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 12:24 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: REXX SDSF > > I certainly hope not. The system log is supposed to be a log of things > done to the system. > > -- > Tom Marchant > > On Tue, 21 May 2024 13:19:03 -0400, Roberto Halais < > roberto.hal...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >I have a rexx that issues console commands thru ISFEXEC. Is there a > >way to prevent the command output to not appear in the system syslog. > >I capture the output in my rexx but it also appears in the system log. > >Thk u. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: REXX SDSF
Tom is correct - any/all operator commands entered into the system will appear in the log. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 12:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: REXX SDSF I certainly hope not. The system log is supposed to be a log of things done to the system. -- Tom Marchant On Tue, 21 May 2024 13:19:03 -0400, Roberto Halais wrote: >I have a rexx that issues console commands thru ISFEXEC. Is there a way >to prevent the command output to not appear in the system syslog. >I capture the output in my rexx but it also appears in the system log. >Thk u. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
System Z Enthusiasts Discord
Just a reminder that there is a place for y'all over on Discord - yes - that's the thing the youngin's are using to communicate when they are playing games *but* it is very usable for asynchronous discussions and has a community of over 1700 members, including many IBMers. It's free and (imho) easier to use than Slack or Teams. Check it out https://discord.gg/sze Discussions are separated by topic areas for more focused discussions and there is the option for audio/video chats with your friends. There is also a monthly Water Cooler webcast hosted here where we discuss topics of interest to the community. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS freeware
At first blush I didn't see anything - you could write your own using the sdsf rexx interface but not sure it's worth the effort/time. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of rpinion865 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2024 8:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS freeware We are in the process of converting from one JCL/SYSOUT archiver to another one. We need the ability to feed the current and new archiver. At my previous life, we used JRB to accomplish that. My current employer will not spend the additional money to get JRB (even though it is relatively inexpensive, and can be rented on a monthly basis). Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Tuesday, May 14th, 2024 at 9:33 AM, Lionel B. Dyck <057b0ee5a853-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > What functions/features do you need? > > > Lionel B. Dyck <>< > > Github: https://github.com/lbdyck > System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze > > “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is > what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John > Wooden > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Behalf > Of rpinion865 > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2024 8:24 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: z/OS freeware > > I need the functionality of McKinney Systems JRB (JES Report Broker) product, > but for free. Is there anything on the CBTTape that would do what JRB does? > > Sent with Proton Mail secure email. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS freeware
What functions/features do you need? Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of rpinion865 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2024 8:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: z/OS freeware I need the functionality of McKinney Systems JRB (JES Report Broker) product, but for free. Is there anything on the CBTTape that would do what JRB does? Sent with [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/) secure email. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Restore members in a PDS - how/which tool?
at 2.5 I think IBM ISPF changed the member delete to delete the member and all generations so a PDSE wouldn't have been helpful at that point. glad you had a backup available. On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 3:03 PM Thomas Berg < 0619bfe39560-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I did the delete in ISPF 3.1. By some reason the space was released so only > 1 track was left. I tried with PDS86 but it didn't find any member. > We found a decently fresh backup so I only lost 2 days of work. That was > acceptable. > > Thomas Berg > > Den tors 9 maj 2024 17:22Seymour J Metz skrev: > > > Alas, if he did a fast bulk erase then they're toast. That's also true > for > > PDS. > > > > -- > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי > > נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר > > > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf > > of Tom Marchant <000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > > Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2024 11:04 AM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: Restore members in a PDS - how/which tool? > > > > I believe PDSE member generations won't help if the member was deleted. > > > > -- > > Tom Marchant > > > > On Thu, 9 May 2024 11:58:59 +, Seymour J Metz > wrote: > > > > >For PDS: PDS96 > > > > > >For PDSE: define it with multiple versions > > > > > >-- > > >Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > > >http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > >עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי > > >נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר > > > > > > > > >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on > behalf > > of <0619bfe39560-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > > >Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 9:43 PM > > >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > >Subject: Restore members in a PDS - how/which tool? > > > > > >I have screwed up badly as I succeded to delete all members in my rexx > ds. > > > > > >I know that there are tools/methods to restore them but those were among > > the members I deleted... > > >(That is by working with the pds as it is itself.) > > > > > >Any that info about how? > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com "Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Restore members in a PDS - how/which tool?
Is there a way to swap?
Actually, you can edit the old generation and save it which will create a new
base (generation 0) member and the original base will become the -1 generation.
That's about the best you can do.
With PDSEGEN you can compare any generation to any generation if that helps.
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Subject: Re: Restore members in a PDS - how/which tool?
On Thu, 9 May 2024 10:11:35 -0500, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:
>It actually depends on how the member was deleted - sadly many tools will only
>delete the base (generation 0) member and leave the non-zero generations
>alone. However if that is the case then you need a tool that can display those
>non-zero generations as, once again, many tools will ignore them (such as the
>default ISPF browse/edit/view).
>
Is there any way to swap two generations of a member to do a regression test
control ("Did this happen before?") and swap them back after?
We used a UNIX-based CM product from an ISV (later acquired by IBM), that
relied heavily on symbolic links. A coder could use a GUI to create a working
"SYSLIB" composed of symlinks to members of various generations to build a
working version (we used a cross
assembler.)
DSFS may have approached the wrong objective: more value in making UNIX files
accessible to traditional utilities than in making traditional data sets
accessible to UNIX utilities.
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Re: Restore members in a PDS - how/which tool?
It actually depends on how the member was deleted - sadly many tools will only delete the base (generation 0) member and leave the non-zero generations alone. However if that is the case then you need a tool that can display those non-zero generations as, once again, many tools will ignore them (such as the default ISPF browse/edit/view). The Review command (cbttape file 134) will show the generations as well as PDSEGEN (cbttape file 969) and both are ***free***. There are vendor products that can be used as well if you have them but some may require a special command or option to view the generations. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2024 10:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Restore members in a PDS - how/which tool? I believe PDSE member generations won't help if the member was deleted. -- Tom Marchant On Thu, 9 May 2024 11:58:59 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >For PDS: PDS96 > >For PDSE: define it with multiple versions > >-- >Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz >http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 >עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי >נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר > > >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on >behalf of ><0619bfe39560-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> >Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 9:43 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Restore members in a PDS - how/which tool? > >I have screwed up badly as I succeded to delete all members in my rexx ds. > >I know that there are tools/methods to restore them but those were among the >members I deleted... >(That is by working with the pds as it is itself.) > >Any that info about how? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Restore members in a PDS - how/which tool?
If the PDS was a PDS then if you, or the system, hasn't performed a compress you should be good. If it was a PDSE then you're toast (sorry). If a PDS then get the PDS command from CBTTape file 182. This command in PDS will restore all members - unfortunately it can't recover the original member names but at least you'll have something. >From ISPF: PDS dataset-name Restore $$ repeat display noprompt Or enter O.RES to be prompted for the command syntax Hope this helps Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 8:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Restore members in a PDS - how/which tool? I have screwed up badly as I succeded to delete all members in my rexx ds. I know that there are tools/methods to restore them but those were among the members I deleted... (That is by working with the pds as it is itself.) Any that info about how? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IEFBR14 -- DSCB set? [WAS: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets]
Actually IEFBR14 is SR 15,15 BR 14 Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Beaver Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 12:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IEFBR14 -- DSCB set? [WAS: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets] BR14 is 2 instructions LA 15,0 BR14 Sent from my iPhone No one said I could type with one thumb > On May 8, 2024, at 12:00, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > Could you be thinking of the option to write an EOF when allocating a new PS? > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי > נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on > behalf of Steve Thompson > Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 12:54 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: IEFBR14 -- DSCB set? [WAS: Consultation on the Potential > Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets] > > I remember some releases ago of z/OS that the system will effectively > do an OPEN if a DSN is created using IEFBR14. But now I can't seem to > find where that is documented. So far I can't find it in the z/OS 2.2 > or 3.1 JCL User's guide. > > I think that if the allocation specified the DCB info (LRECL, RECFM, > and blksize) that this would be put into the VTOC when > IEFBR14 was used to do the allocation. > > So in a case like this, would the last ref date be "empty"? > > Steve Thompson > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: DFSort Report question
In this case here is a sample record
HEADER('PassPhrase') ON(616,10,CH)
The ON value found in the input could be "LEGACY", "KDFAES" or "NOPHRASE".
What I would like to do is change LEGACY/KDFAES to PASSPHRASE if possible.
Thanks
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>> The ON value could be "LEGACY", "KDFAES", "PASSWORD" or "NOPHRASE".
Lionel,
How do you determine which header value need to be used? I am guessing that
it is going to depend on a value in the file. If So we can dynamically
change it.
Thanks,
Kolusu
DFSORT Development
IBM Corporation
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DFSort Report question
Does anyone know who to change the value found in the ON to a more
meaningful value:
For example this: HEADER('PassPhrase') ON(616,10,CH)
The ON value could be "LEGACY", "KDFAES", "PASSWORD" or "NOPHRASE".
Thanks in advance
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Re: Rexx and DSFS
The dataset is FB 80 Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, April 22, 2024 8:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Rexx and DSFS On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 06:50:15 -0500, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >I ran a test and this is what I found - IT WORKS FINE > >/dsfs/txt/lbdyck/lionel.exec>dir whoson >t IBM-1047T=on -rwxrwxrwx 1 BPXROOT OMVSGRP11367 Jan 31 15:14 >whoson > Interesting: <https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=system-program-module-support> seems to imply that only members of RECFM=U PDS(E) are regarded as executable. What were the MVS DCB attributes of the data set? >/dsfs/txt/lbdyck/lionel.exec>./whoson >Interactive Users on 1 Systems: TSO Users: 1 SSH Users: 2 > >System: CBT Users: 3 >xxx xxxxx (ssh) >LBDYCKLionel B. Dyck >LBDYCKLionel B. Dyck (ssh) > >/dsfs/txt/lbdyck/lionel.exec> > Are there two different definitions of "executable" which the publication fails to distinguish? Could "chmod a-x" make the member mon-executable? -- Thanks, gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Rexx and DSFS
One more point on this - the very 1st line of the REXX code *must* have /* REXX */ starting in column 1. While TSO and VM REXX just care that the word rexx is in a comment on the 1st line - the shell REXX requires it begin in column 1 with the 1st word being REXX. hth Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2024 8:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Rexx and DSFS Can a Rexx Rexx exec usefully reside in a DSFS? It would need to be marked as executable. The following doesn't make it clear: <https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=system-zos-unix-attributes-versus-data-set-attributes> Is there better information in the DSFS User's Guide? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Rexx and DSFS
I ran a test and this is what I found - IT WORKS FINE /dsfs/txt/lbdyck/lionel.exec>dir whoson t IBM-1047T=on -rwxrwxrwx 1 BPXROOT OMVSGRP11367 Jan 31 15:14 whoson /dsfs/txt/lbdyck/lionel.exec>./whoson Interactive Users on 1 Systems: TSO Users: 1 SSH Users: 2 System: CBT Users: 3 xxx x (ssh) LBDYCKLionel B. Dyck LBDYCKLionel B. Dyck (ssh) /dsfs/txt/lbdyck/lionel.exec> Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2024 8:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Rexx and DSFS Can a Rexx Rexx exec usefully reside in a DSFS? It would need to be marked as executable. The following doesn't make it clear: <https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=system-zos-unix-attributes-versus-data-set-attributes> Is there better information in the DSFS User's Guide? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
SHARE Kansas City - August 4-8
Attention all those attending, or planning to attend, the next SHARE in Kansas City #sharekc2024. When you plan your travel don't forget that there are sessions on Thursday afternoon with the last session ending at 4pm. What this means is that if you leave early that you will miss out on the opportunity to attend a few dozen sessions. Using the last SHARE in Orlando as an example, if you had departed at noon you would have missed sessions on: - CICS TS 6.1 Performance - Exploring MQ Clustering - including Uniform Clusters - Keep Your Data Safe - User Experience - moving to a well-managed sysplex - What's New in PowerMax storage - z/OS Communication Server Intrusion Detection Services - Bit Bucket - CICS TS Nuts, Bolts, and Gotchas - Configuring LPARs to Optimize Performance - MQ Q-Sharing Group - Help with Workload Skewing - Software Containers on zCX in Real Production Environments - Sysplex Network Technologies and Considerations - Using AI Prompts for Mainframe Software Analysis And there were more sessions than just these and SHARE Kansas City will be just as good - if not better. Go to https://www.share.org/Events/SHARE-Kansas-City-2024 for details. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: grep ascii files...
Gil - no need to insult. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 8:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: grep ascii files... On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 07:36:15 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: >Behold the power of Unix pipelines: > >$ iconv -f ISO8859-1 -t IBM-1047 myasciifile | grep MATCH > >iconv is not "first converting" the the whole file to EBCDIC since both >iconv and grep run at the same time :-) > OK, smartass. How about "grep -r". -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: grep ascii files...
I just used grep on a file tagged ISO8859 and it worked without using iconv. t ISO8859-1 T=on -rwxr-xr-x 1 XXX ZZZ 2618 Feb 20 08:21 cleanvi >grep 'IBM' cleanvi # Copyright 1996 IBM Corp. # The following enclosed code is sample code created by IBM # IBM product and is provided to you solely for the purpose # IBM shall not be liable for any damages arising out of your I used both /bin/grep and /zopen/grep and both worked Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Itschak Mugzach Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 7:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: grep ascii files... Kirk, I want to directly grep ascii files instead of iconv first. ITschak *| **Itschak Mugzach | Director | SecuriTeam Software **|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for Z/OS, zLinux and IBM I **| * *|* *Email**: i_mugz...@securiteam.co.il **|* *Mob**: +972 522 986404 **|* *Skype**: ItschakMugzach **|* *Web**: www.Securiteam.co.il **|* בתאריך יום ה׳, 18 באפר׳ 2024 ב-15:37 מאת Kirk Wolf : > Behold the power of Unix pipelines: > > $ iconv -f ISO8859-1 -t IBM-1047 myasciifile | grep MATCH > > iconv is not "first converting" the the whole file to EBCDIC since > both iconv and grep run at the same time :-) > > Kirk Wolf > Dovetailed Technologies > https://coztoolkit.com > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024, at 4:03 AM, ITschak Mugzach wrote: > > Is there any command to grep ascii files without the need to first > convert > > them to ebcdic (iconv -f)? > > > > ITschak > > > > ITschak Mugzach > > *|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous > > Monitoring for z/OS, x/Linux & IBM I **| z/VM coming soon * > > > > > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO > > IBM-MAIN > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Program to split a jobs output
dsfs will definitely help Lionel B. Dyck < Website: GitHub.com/lbdyck Sent from my iPhone 15 Pro Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden > On Apr 9, 2024, at 8:00 PM, Paul Gilmartin > <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 08:42:37 +, גדי בן אבי wrote: >> >> Today I had to sent a jobs output to IBM to help determine a problem. >> The jobs had 11 sysout datasets, and I wanted to send each one individually. >> >> Does anyone know of a program to do this automagically, before I see how >> complicated it would be to write one? >> > Willl DSFS help with this? > > WHr does the DSFS User's Guide say about this? > > -- > gil > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
DSFS IBM Idea - Please consider voting
Please consider voting on my new IBM Idea for /dsfs https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I-4024 - this is requesting that dsfs have access to input datasets in the spool along with the currently supported output datasets. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Standard Packaging Rules for z/OS-Based Products - current version ???
S.BUILD(MAJV116S),DISP=SHR > //SYSUT2 DD DSN=&&TEMP,DISP=(MOD,PASS) > //END EXEC PGM=IEBGENER > //SYSUT1 DD DATA,DLM=$$ > ++ PROC (JVMPRC16) DISTLIB(APROCLIB) SYSLIB(PROCLIB) TXLIB(APROCLIB). > $$ > //SYSUT2 DD DSN=&&TEMP,DISP=(MOD,PASS) > //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* > //SYSINDD DUMMY > //END EXEC PGM=IEBGENER > //SYSUT1 DD DATA,DLM=$$ > ZZ > // > $$ > //SYSUT2 DD DSN=&&TEMP,DISP=(MOD,PASS) > //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* > //SYSINDD DUMMY > //SAVEIT EXEC PGM=IEBGENER > //SYSUT1 DD DSN=&&TEMP,DISP=(MOD,PASS) > //SYSUT2 DD DSN=SMPE.ZOS25.USERMODS(MAJV116),DISP=SHR > //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* > //SYSINDD DUMMY > > Dave Jousma > Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering > > > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf > of Lionel B. Dyck <057b0ee5a853-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2024 at 2:01 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Standard Packaging Rules for z/OS-Based Products - current > version ??? > The most current version of this pub that I can find is SC23-3695-10 and > it is from June 2003. The link for this is https: //urldefense. > com/v3/__https: //www. ibm. > com/resources/publications/OutputPubsDetails?PubID=SC23-3695__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!gG_my_jr_L8pFWOn6SH9laQW0OKkdjH816l_JWZA2Q5bldKsgKTPTUA0snjMDNVOH6MVVquK6anGn2fJd-6GXrsy2hdyv1UlzrU$ > > > The most current version of this pub that I can find is SC23-3695-10 and it > > is from June 2003. > > > > The link for this is > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ibm.com/resources/publications/OutputPubsDetails?PubID=SC23-3695__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!gG_my_jr_L8pFWOn6SH9laQW0OKkdjH816l_JWZA2Q5bldKsgKTPTUA0snjMDNVOH6MVVquK6anGn2fJd-6GXrsy2hdyv1UlzrU$ > < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.ibm.com/resources/publications/OutputPubsDetails?PubID=SC23-3695__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!gG_my_jr_L8pFWOn6SH9laQW0OKkdjH816l_JWZA2Q5bldKsgKTPTUA0snjMDNVOH6MVVquK6anGn2fJd-6GXrsy2hdyv1UlzrU$ > > > > -10 > > > > Does anyone know of a link to a current version? > > > > Specifically, I'm curious about packaging for z/OS Unix System Services > > applications. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Lionel B. Dyck <>< > > Github: > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/lbdyck__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!gG_my_jr_L8pFWOn6SH9laQW0OKkdjH816l_JWZA2Q5bldKsgKTPTUA0snjMDNVOH6MVVquK6anGn2fJd-6GXrsy2hdyPDHVvtw$ > < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/lbdyck__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!gG_my_jr_L8pFWOn6SH9laQW0OKkdjH816l_JWZA2Q5bldKsgKTPTUA0snjMDNVOH6MVVquK6anGn2fJd-6GXrsy2hdyPDHVvtw$ > > > > System Z Enthusiasts Discord: > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!gG_my_jr_L8pFWOn6SH9laQW0OKkdjH816l_JWZA2Q5bldKsgKTPTUA0snjMDNVOH6MVVquK6anGn2fJd-6GXrsy2hdyOxGUDZo$ > < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!gG_my_jr_L8pFWOn6SH9laQW0OKkdjH816l_JWZA2Q5bldKsgKTPTUA0snjMDNVOH6MVVquK6anGn2fJd-6GXrsy2hdyOxGUDZo$ > > > > > > “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what > you > > are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may > be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If > you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate > it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, > copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is > prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender > that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your > computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com "Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Standard Packaging Rules for z/OS-Based Products - current version ???
The most current version of this pub that I can find is SC23-3695-10 and it is from June 2003. The link for this is https://www.ibm.com/resources/publications/OutputPubsDetails?PubID=SC23-3695 -10 Does anyone know of a link to a current version? Specifically, I'm curious about packaging for z/OS Unix System Services applications. Thanks in advance. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IGGCSI00 Catalog Search interface
Once you have the dataset name from the catalog you can use the REXX LISTDSI service to get the dataset type (dsorg). Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Farley, Peter Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 10:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IGGCSI00 Catalog Search interface Not everyone has access to DCOLLECT data (we are not all sysprogs with privileged access rights). IGGCSI00 can be used by most folks to query catalog data. Understanding that the DSNTYPE isn’t available in the catalog data, perhaps IEHLIST could be used (clumsily I admit) to “print” the VTOC data for each dataset and then scrape the listing for the answer? Possibly in the “SMS flags” area? Peter From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Michael Oujesky Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 11:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IGGCSI00 Catalog Search interface Have you looked at DCOLLECT data? Michael At 08:19 AM 3/14/2024, Don Johnson wrote: >Good morning! > >I am working with the IGGCSI00 module, and have looked at the field >descriptions and think I am missing something. > >Does anyone know the CSI field name and format where I can discover >if a file is a BASIC or LARGE DSNtype? > >Thanks! >Don -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Recent CBTTape Updates
Some recent updates to https://cbttape.org/updates.htm as reported using the CBTView ISPF Dialog (found in file 043) sorted with the most current date on top: File DescriptionDate 135 Greg Price Load Module library * 24/02/22 182 PDS Command Package--Version 8.6.21.0-PDSE Support * 24/02/22 035 LOAD MODULE file - Quick install of useful programs * 24/02/22 492 SHOWzOS 8.02 and 7.25, plus SHOWMVS 7.10 and 6.30* 24/02/21 614 SHOWMVS and SHOWzOS Load Libraries FB-80 XMIT format * 24/02/21 435 Frank Clarke's execs having to do with TSO userids * 24/02/14 433 Frank Clarke's collection of REXX execs, etc.* 24/02/14 997 ISPF Git Interface - ZIGI* 24/02/14 1051 ZEMF Dynamic SMF Exits Alteration Facility - B.Marino* 24/02/14 001 CBT DOC - Modified File 001 for Version 506 * 24/02/13 043 The Official CBT Dialog for easy access to all files * 24/02/12 648 ZRMS Resource Monitoring Subsystem from Ben Marino * 24/02/11 417 RACFADM - ISPF Dialog to make RACF admin easier. * 24/02/08 314 Lionel Dyck Collection of Utilities. TX thru Z * 24/02/01 312 Lionel Dyck Collection of Utilities. A thru R * 24/01/30 029 Cook Book instructions to Enlarge the VTOC of a pack * 24/01/24 977 URL Table for MOSHIX YouTube Mainframe Videos* 24/01/24 Just to highlight a few check out the enhanced PDS command (182), updated SHOWZOS (614), How to enlarge a VTOC (029), User Friendly RACF Dialog (417), and two new tools from Ben Marino (648 and 1051). Lionel B. Dyck <>< #IBMChampion #OMPAmbassador Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Query - do you have access to GitHub from your z/OS system? And do you have git on your z/OS system?
GitHub does not offer a self-hosting option. There is GitLab which does have self-hosting but not on z/OS. Only the git client runs on z/OS under OMVS and there are two options for that - Rocket Software or z/OS Open Tools. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Colin Paice Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 4:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Query - do you have access to GitHub from your z/OS system? And do you have git on your z/OS system? Is there a guide to installing and using github on z/OS? Or perhaps any gotchas? On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 at 09:09, Rob Scott wrote: > We use git on z/OS extensively throughout the company and it is one of > those tools where you end up thinking "how on earth did I function > effectively without it?". > > We also use BitBucket for our remote repos as it interfaces very > nicely with Jira. > > Rob Scott > Rocket Software > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Matt Hogstrom > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 8:32 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Query - do you have access to GitHub from your z/OS system? > And do you have git on your z/OS system? > > EXTERNAL EMAIL > > > > > > Yes and yes. > > > > Matt Hogstrom > > “It may be cognitive, but, it ain’t intuitive." > — Hogstrom > > > On Feb 14, 2024, at 14:16, Frank Swarbrick > > > wrote: > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > <mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>> on behalf of Lionel B. Dyck > > <057b0ee5a853-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu > > <mailto:057b0ee5a853-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 7:20 AM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU <mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> > > mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>> > > Subject: Query - do you have access to GitHub from your z/OS system? > > And > do you have git on your z/OS system? > > > > As part of the z/OS Open Tools project I'm asking if your z/OS > > system has access to GitHub. The reason for this question is that > > IBM, ISVs, and open-source developers are increasingly using GitHub. > > > > Questions: > > > >1. Do you have access to GitHub from your z/OS system? > >2. Do you have git installed on your z/OS system? > > > > Thank you > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > Rocket Software, Inc. and subsidiaries ■ 77 Fourth Avenue, Waltham MA > 02451 ■ Main Office Toll Free Number: +1 855.577.4323 Contact Customer > Support: > https://my.rocketsoftware.com/RocketCommunity/RCEmailSupport > Unsubscribe from Marketing Messages/Manage Your Subscription > Preferences - > http://www.rocketsoftware.com/manage-your-email-preferences > Privacy Policy - > http://www.rocketsoftware.com/company/legal/privacy-policy > > > This communication and any attachments may contain confidential > information of Rocket Software, Inc. All unauthorized use, disclosure > or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, > please notify Rocket Software immediately and destroy all copies of > this communication. Thank you. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Query - do you have access to GitHub from your z/OS system? And do you have git on your z/OS system?
As part of the z/OS Open Tools project I'm asking if your z/OS system has access to GitHub. The reason for this question is that IBM, ISVs, and open-source developers are increasingly using GitHub. Questions: 1. Do you have access to GitHub from your z/OS system? 2. Do you have git installed on your z/OS system? Thank you Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Question
I got this update from an IBM contact - hope it helps: "I'm not sure if the question was answered, but any Python from Rocket at the 3.10 or later level is the IBM SDK." Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of kekronbekron Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2024 11:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question Someone will correct me if/where I'm wrong. Open Enterprise SDK for Python - Just python. Comes with pip and virtualenv or venv, which are included in Python distribution these days. pip = package manager. virtualenv / venv = environment manager. Rocket Python = Rocket delivers the open source tools it delivers through Anaconda, which is a Python environment + package manager. I haven't looked but I believe they deliver Bash, and some other tools also via Anaconda "channels". ZOSOpen Tools's Python = It's an empty wrapper. At the moment, it just exists to add itself as a dependency to any Python project you may want to port. All it does is check if Python exists in your sys. Upstreaming zOS-relevant bits of code to Python, I think, is happening completely separate from ZOSOpen Tools's Python. Some of it may well be tied with "Python AI Toolkit for Z". PATZ = Close to OE SDK for Python, but delivered via an IBM hosted & managed repository manager (ex: JFrog Artifactory, Sonatype Nexus). The difference is, PATZ is also a source for python packages that have zOS support (+ acceleration where possible I think) added. There's also the layer of safety of it coming from an IBM "stash" rather than pypi.org directly. pypi = the "stash" where "pip install thing" will get a package from, by default. On Thursday, February 8th, 2024 at 00:01, Rick Troth wrote: > The closest standard is Python's "ctypes". > Now ... some of the guides I have read say that CTYPES only works with > C, but I've found that (within limits) LE calling convention works > well with other languages, not just C. > > In a previous life, I was able to call C from Python (the point being > "to call /native/") without any special rigging other than CTYPES > (included w Python). > > -- R; <>< > > > > On 2/7/24 12:32, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: > > > Add to that question how does the z/OS Open Tools port of python > > compare to Rockets and to the IBM Open Enterprise SDK? > > > > Lionel B. Dyck <>< > > Github:https://github.com/lbdyck > > System Z Enthusiasts Discord: > > https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 > > > > “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is > > what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - > > John Wooden > > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion listibm-m...@listserv.ua.edu On > > Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick > > Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2024 11:30 AM > > To:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: Question > > > > So here's a curious question. Are IBM Open Enterprise SDK for Python > > and the Python from Rocket Software basically the same, or no? > > > > Frank > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion listibm-m...@listserv.ua.edu on > > behalf of Peter sylvesterpeter.sylves...@gmail.com > > Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2024 11:15 PM To:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: Question > > > > Yes, from the IBM pax installation. And a bit of pipifax. :-) > > > > Python 3.12.0 (heads/pyz_dev-3.12:ef647e3673, Oct 31 2023, 19:02:59) > > [Clang > > 14.0.0 (build 1465bdb)] on zos On 06/02/2024 19:47, Ed Jaffe wrote: > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > : >python > > > Python 3.11.4 (heads/pyz_dev-3.11.ziip:39640ccf4b, Jul 15 2023, > > > 05:46:13) [Clang 14.0.0 ] on zos Type "help", "copyright", "credits" > > > or "license" for more information > > > On 2/6/2024 10:15 AM, Steve Beaver wrote: > > > > > > > Does anyone have Python installed in your shop? > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > -- For IBM-MA
Re: Question
Add to that question how does the z/OS Open Tools port of python compare to Rockets and to the IBM Open Enterprise SDK? Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2024 11:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question So here's a curious question. Are IBM Open Enterprise SDK for Python and the Python from Rocket Software basically the same, or no? Frank From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Peter Sylvester Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2024 11:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question Yes, from the IBM pax installation. And a bit of pipifax. :-) Python 3.12.0 (heads/pyz_dev-3.12:ef647e3673, Oct 31 2023, 19:02:59) [Clang 14.0.0 (build 1465bdb)] on zos On 06/02/2024 19:47, Ed Jaffe wrote: > Yes. > > : >python > Python 3.11.4 (heads/pyz_dev-3.11.ziip:39640ccf4b, Jul 15 2023, > 05:46:13) [Clang 14.0.0 ] on zos Type "help", "copyright", "credits" > or "license" for more information > >>> > > On 2/6/2024 10:15 AM, Steve Beaver wrote: >> Does anyone have Python installed in your shop? >> >> >> Steve -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SDSF PS Command column
You will need to issue the `ps -ef` command while using sudo, or su, to see all the processes and then the command field will be full. You can do that using bpxwunix from within a rexx exec. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jon Perryman Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 2:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF PS Command column On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 13:53:54 -0600, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >Perhaps someone who knows the internals could help out here. It's unlikely someone here will know the internals to PS command in SDSF because it's designed for those who avoid UNIX. 40 bytes for a UNIX command can be very small when it can be up to 512 bytes. Since "/" did not get you the full line command, try the "D" line command. If that doesn't work, REXX exec can be run from the command line. Maybe someone has a REXX that extracts the information that you want. Maybe a D OMVS command gives you the information that you want. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SDSF PS Command column
Perhaps someone who knows the internals could help out here. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 1:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF PS Command column This both works and does not work. It expands the column, but, for this column at least, only pads past 40 with spaces. Perhaps the full command is stored only as 40 characters. 🙁 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Lionel B. Dyck Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 12:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF PS Command column In the menu bar click View then Arrange and then find Command in the popup table and change the width. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 1:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF PS Command column Sorry, I am not trying to type a command. Rather I am looking at the "Command" column, and it is 40 characters in size. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Ituriel do Neto <03427ec2837d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 12:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF PS Command column Hi, If you type "/", a panel will pop up with more space to type commands Best Regards Ituriel do Nascimento Neto z/OS System Programmer Em sexta-feira, 2 de fevereiro de 2024 às 16:30:56 BRT, Frank Swarbrick escreveu: Is there any way to get more than the first 40 characters of the associated command line for a job in the PS screen? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SDSF PS Command column
In the menu bar click View then Arrange and then find Command in the popup table and change the width. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 1:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF PS Command column Sorry, I am not trying to type a command. Rather I am looking at the "Command" column, and it is 40 characters in size. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Ituriel do Neto <03427ec2837d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 12:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF PS Command column Hi, If you type "/", a panel will pop up with more space to type commands Best Regards Ituriel do Nascimento Neto z/OS System Programmer Em sexta-feira, 2 de fevereiro de 2024 às 16:30:56 BRT, Frank Swarbrick escreveu: Is there any way to get more than the first 40 characters of the associated command line for a job in the PS screen? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ISPF edit - clone a column
There are a number of ispf edit macros on the CBTTape and mention working with columns. I haven't tried them but I did find them using the CBTView dialog by searching for column and then edit. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Radoslaw Skorupka Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 9:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: ISPF edit - clone a column Sometimes I need clone text column. For larger files I use DFSORT or IEBGENER utility, however maybe I'm missing some quick & simple to use facility of ISPF Editor? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Replacement for LMAC program in ISPF 3.1
This would work great if IBM hadn't also changed some control block offsets ☹ Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Michael Oujesky Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2024 5:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Replacement for LMAC program in ISPF 3.1 In LMAC CSECT, offset BD4 is '5.8' and BD7 is '7.9'. Code segment at 152 does the checking. Michael At 08:37 AM 1/30/2024, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >After looking into it the code is in a load module that appears to have >been written in PL/X. There are no visible constants for either >5.8 or 7.9 that could be zapped. > >CBTtape file 961 by Yves Colliard is an excellent replacement with many >build in edit line commands. It isn't the same as LMAC as it isn't >dynamic but it would be worth investigating. > >Lionel B. Dyck <>< >Github: https://github.com/lbdyck > >"Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is >what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - - - John Wooden > >-Original Message- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On >Behalf Of Schmitt, Michael >Sent: Monday, January 29, 2024 1:19 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: Replacement for LMAC program in ISPF 3.1 > >ISPF has 3 variables that an application can interrogate for the >version: ZOS90RL, ZISPFOS, and ZENVIR. The fact that the edit says the >ISPF version must be between 5.8 and 7.9 makes me suspect it is using >ZENVIR. > >What is in the ISPF ZENVIR variable on your z/OS 3.1 system? For >example, on a z/OS 2.4 system it is 'ISPF 7.4MVS TSO'. > > >I'm wondering if the high release is a real requirement. You might try >zapping the program to change or bypass the edit, so that it can run, >and see what happens. > >-Original Message- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On >Behalf Of Billy Ashton >Sent: Monday, January 29, 2024 12:36 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Replacement for LMAC program in ISPF 3.1 > >Hello, we just turned on z/OS 3.1, and its component ISPF 3.1 here. > >Now, I just saw when editing a member that my LMAC program (from Doug >Nadel originally) no longer works, and gives me a message: >LMAC005 You must be running an ISPF version greater than 5.8 and less >than 7.9 to run LMAC. > >How should I deal with this? A quick look on the web indicated that I >should use the utility function to define each line command to a macro. >I currently have 85 macros in my single Rexx driver, and cannot imagine >splitting this and going through that. > >Do I have any way to drive my single macro program like I had before >with LMAC? > >Thank you and best regards, >Billy Ashton > >-- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > >-- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > >-- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ISPF Line Command Table (was LMAC)
Hank - great point. This is great but the LMAC tool was dynamic and didn't require exiting Edit/View to return to pick up the new table. Cheers Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Hank Oerlemans Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2024 8:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISPF Line Command Table (was LMAC) Clearly missing the point but what's the difference between your idea and https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=316-line-command-table-support ? Hank -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Greg Dyck
Sad news - prayers for his family during this time of loss. I had the pleasure of meeting him a few times over the years at SHARE conferences and was always impressed with his knowledge and willingness to share with others. Just to clarify: We were not related, as some people thought due to our last names, and we pronounced our last names differently. His passing is a loss to the mainframe community. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2024 8:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Greg Dyck It is with great sadness that I have to report the sudden passing of Greg Dyck. Greg has been working at Rocket Software for the last 8 years or so, but most of you will know him from decades spent working on the deep internals within both z/OS and DB2. A brilliant developer and software architect, he will leave his fingerprints on many core components and also in the memories of the countless people who benefited from his kindness and willingness to help. I came across Greg in the 1990s on IBM-Main and was amazed at the level with which he was prepared to educate and help the posters on the forum. I finally met him in person when he worked at Rocket and could actually shake his hand and thank him for everything he taught me over the years from reading his posts. I know that generations of mainframers have benefitted from his assistance and that he helped make everyone he came across a better programmer. He will be greatly missed. Rob Scott Principal Architect, Mainframe Systems Tools Distinguished Engineer Rocket Software 77 Fourth Avenue . Suite 100 . Waltham . MA 02451-1468 . USA Tel: +1.781.684.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com<mailto:rsc...@rs.com> Web: www.rocketsoftware.com<http://www.rocketsoftware.com/> Rocket Software, Inc. and subsidiaries ? 77 Fourth Avenue, Waltham MA 02451 ? Main Office Toll Free Number: +1 855.577.4323 Contact Customer Support: https://my.rocketsoftware.com/RocketCommunity/RCEmailSupport Unsubscribe from Marketing Messages/Manage Your Subscription Preferences - http://www.rocketsoftware.com/manage-your-email-preferences Privacy Policy - http://www.rocketsoftware.com/company/legal/privacy-policy This communication and any attachments may contain confidential information of Rocket Software, Inc. All unauthorized use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Rocket Software immediately and destroy all copies of this communication. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
ISPF Line Command Table (was LMAC)
With LMAC being unsupported and now no longer usable with z/OS 3.1 we need the ability to dynamically define line commands, either via a line command table or individual line commands. To that end Ive created this IBM Idea (formerly known as RFE) https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I-3974 --- ISPF: Provide a way to dynamically define a line command table With the demise of LMAC due to lack of support there needs to be a way to dynamically define an ISPF Edit/View line command table for the life of the Edit/View session. This would over-ride the global_line_command_table from the ispf config. Alternately provide a way to dynamically define line commands for the life of the Edit/View session much like one is able to do with Edit Macro Define. --- Please consider voting and/or add your comments. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [ISPF-L] Replacement for LMAC program in ISPF 3.1
It was written by Doug Nadel while he was working at IBM so it was definitely the IBM PL/X. My guess is that the code dynamically creates the ISPF line command table and then hooks it in dynamically using control blocks, or ???, that Doug knew as he was in ISPF development. Unfortunately that interface has not been exposed for the rest of us. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: 'Paul Gilmartin' via ISPF discussion list Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2024 9:46 AM To: ispf-l-l...@nd.edu Subject: Re: [ISPF-L] Replacement for LMAC program in ISPF 3.1 On 1/29/24 23:16:53, Pedro Vera wrote: > If I had this problem, I would browse the load module and search for '5.8' > and use AMASPZAP to modify the text to an acceptable value. > . Bypass a validity check!? The authors may have had a reason to code that. But it may have been only that they were unable to test at a higher level. > Likewise, I might use the dis-assembler that is part of Hi-Level assembler > and look at the source that it produces. And fix that source. > . PL/X? Was this an IBM product? Or a licensed vendor? > On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 1:17:28 PM UTC-8 mark wrote: > > Bummer! Line macro support works but it was missing one thing at the > time. I don’t even recall for sure, maybe it was GLOBAL_LINE_COMMAND_TABLE > which I see now. I also recall opening a requirement for whatever it was. I > still use LMAC, but some of my sandbox LPARs are using a line macro called > LINEMAC and I also supply the table – LINETBL in XMI format on my web site > and CBT file 434. -- gil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISPF discussion list" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ispf-l-list+unsubscr...@nd.edu. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/nd.edu/d/msgid/ispf-l-list/7e4965bc-543f-4e06-91fb-433e3a3f4930%40AIM.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Replacement for LMAC program in ISPF 3.1
After looking into it the code is in a load module that appears to have been written in PL/X. There are no visible constants for either 5.8 or 7.9 that could be zapped. CBTtape file 961 by Yves Colliard is an excellent replacement with many build in edit line commands. It isn't the same as LMAC as it isn't dynamic but it would be worth investigating. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Schmitt, Michael Sent: Monday, January 29, 2024 1:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Replacement for LMAC program in ISPF 3.1 ISPF has 3 variables that an application can interrogate for the version: ZOS90RL, ZISPFOS, and ZENVIR. The fact that the edit says the ISPF version must be between 5.8 and 7.9 makes me suspect it is using ZENVIR. What is in the ISPF ZENVIR variable on your z/OS 3.1 system? For example, on a z/OS 2.4 system it is 'ISPF 7.4MVS TSO'. I'm wondering if the high release is a real requirement. You might try zapping the program to change or bypass the edit, so that it can run, and see what happens. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Billy Ashton Sent: Monday, January 29, 2024 12:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Replacement for LMAC program in ISPF 3.1 Hello, we just turned on z/OS 3.1, and its component ISPF 3.1 here. Now, I just saw when editing a member that my LMAC program (from Doug Nadel originally) no longer works, and gives me a message: LMAC005 You must be running an ISPF version greater than 5.8 and less than 7.9 to run LMAC. How should I deal with this? A quick look on the web indicated that I should use the utility function to define each line command to a macro. I currently have 85 macros in my single Rexx driver, and cannot imagine splitting this and going through that. Do I have any way to drive my single macro program like I had before with LMAC? Thank you and best regards, Billy Ashton -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [ISPF-L] Replacement for LMAC program in ISPF 3.1
I cross posted this to https://discord.com/channels/880322471608344597/1201602121225752746 on the System Z Enthusiasts discord. Have you looked at CBTTape Fole 961 for Yves Colliard’s YCLMAC - A collection of user line commands for use in ISPF Edit and View ? Hope this helps – unfortunately as you probably have discovered, the LMAC routine is a load module with no source available. If you do find a solution please share as I’m sure a LOT of others will have the same challenge. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: <https://github.com/lbdyck> https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden From: ispf-l-l...@nd.edu On Behalf Of Billy Ashton Sent: Monday, January 29, 2024 12:36 PM To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List ; isp...@listserv.nd.edu Subject: [ISPF-L] Replacement for LMAC program in ISPF 3.1 Hello, we just turned on z/OS 3.1, and its component ISPF 3.1 here. Now, I just saw when editing a member that my LMAC program (from Doug Nadel originally) no longer works, and gives me a message: LMAC005 You must be running an ISPF version greater than 5.8 and less than 7.9 to run LMAC. How should I deal with this? A quick look on the web indicated that I should use the utility function to define each line command to a macro. I currently have 85 macros in my single Rexx driver, and cannot imagine splitting this and going through that. Do I have any way to drive my single macro program like I had before with LMAC? Thank you and best regards, Billy Ashton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISPF discussion list" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ispf-l-list+unsubscr...@nd.edu <mailto:ispf-l-list+unsubscr...@nd.edu> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/nd.edu/d/msgid/ispf-l-list/em8ed84d04-ba7a-44bf-84e0-62134d3dcc8b%40dbe89808.com <https://groups.google.com/a/nd.edu/d/msgid/ispf-l-list/em8ed84d04-ba7a-44bf-84e0-62134d3dcc8b%40dbe89808.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Custom ISPF command
I have an exec that I defined in the ISPF ZSTART variable that dynamically adds my personal fast path commands to the ispf commands table each time ISPF starts - no need to restart for them to be available. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 7:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Custom ISPF command "Obviously, you still need to restart ISPF to enable the new commands." It isn't obvious to me. For another example of modifying the command table dynamically, see Gilbert Saint-Fluor's FASTPATH command on the CBT tape. I use it regularly. Issuing the FASTPATH command within ISPF adds some commands to the command table and they are immediately usable. -- Tom Marchant On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 14:03:30 +, Robert Prins wrote: >Here's the free-of-any errorchecking, I've only ever used it myself, >small exec to update command tables using the standard ISPF dialog. >Obviously, you still need to restart ISPF to enable the new commands. >And of course saving them, like I do, in my private EXEC library could be >omitted. > >Enjoy > >/* REXX exec to update my command tables */ >/*** trace ?r * \| * >* (C) Copyright Robert AH Prins, 2009-2010 * >*** >* >* -- * >* | Date | By | Remarks | * >* |+--+--| * >* || | | * >* |+--+--| * >* | 2010-05-13 | RAHP | Use ISPTABL, not ISPPROF | * >* |+--+--| * >* | 2009-04-16 | RAHP | Now RAHP- and HERECMDS | * >* |+--+--| * >* | 2009-04-08 | RAHP | Initial version | * >* |+--+--| >* > >* UCMDS is a REXX exec to update my site-independent (RAHPCMDS) and* >* site-specific (HERECMDS) tables. Because it is not possible to * >* update an open ISPF command table, this exec copies it to CMDS, * >* invokes ISPUCM (the command table update program) with a parameter * >* of and then copies the updated table back to USERCMDS. Note * >* that is necessary to restart ISPF to enable any new commands.* >* * >* Copies of the new command tables are saved to my exec library. * >* * >* Note:* >* * >* *"GETVAR" is my routine that retrieves site-dependent information,** >* *such as the names of my datasets allocated to ISPF etc.* * > >* Send questions, suggestions and/or bug reports to: * >* * >* rob...@prino.org / robert.ah.pr...@gmail.com * >* * >* Robert AH Prins * >* Ozkiniu gatve 48 * >* Vilnius 08405* >* Lithuania* > >* This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or* >* modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as * >* published by the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of * >* the License, or (at your option) any later version. * >* * >* This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, * >* but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of * >* MERCH
Re: Custom ISPF command
Create a site ISPF command table and add your commands to that. See ISPF 3.9 and it will show you the defined ISPF command tables. There is one for each application (i.e. ISR), and then up to 3 user tables, 3 site tables, and one system table (ISP). You define the command table names (prefixes) using TSO ISPCCONF to update the ISPF configuration table which is a load module for your linklist or steplib or ispllib. Hope this helps point you in the right direction. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Radoslaw Skorupka Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 9:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Custom ISPF command (It is better to ask than to stay uninformed) I have created few simple REXX scripts for other folks. Such script is located in SYSEXEC concatenation, so it can be issued using TSO SCRIPT1 or TSO SCRIPT2 PARM Recently I was asked to "make it ISPF native" - mean no TSO prefix in the command. I believe it is feasible, but... how to do it? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Opinion
I use two 34" curved monitors side by side 😊 Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Hitefield Sent: Monday, January 15, 2024 11:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Opinion Steve, I have not used that specific monitor, but I do use a curved monitor. Love it! For me, much better than a flat monitor. I was hooked after I tried the first one (a Samsung). Bill Hitefield > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Steve Beaver > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2024 12:33 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Opinion > > Does anyone have an opinion on > > > > LG - 49" IPS LED Curved UltraWide Dual QHD 144Hz FreeSync and G-SYNC > Compatible Monitor with HDR (HDMI, DisplayPort, USB) - Black > > > > > > Steve Beaver > > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications
With Vendor support like that . . . . . Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Regan Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 1:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications To restate. In our case, ChangeMan ZFS is functioning as an SMTP client, so we want to change it to use CSSMTP as the SMTP client by having the created email go out to the spool as SYSOUT, but we need to know how to configure ChangeMan so that it knows what the external writer name will be for CSSMTP, i.e., CSSMTP would be the writer name of choice for us. Anyway, the vendor has not been of any help and suggested posting the question to their community board, which I have. So far, no response. Regards, Mark Regan, K8MTR General, EN80tg CTO1 USNR-Retired (1969-1991), RUENAAA/CNO WASHINGTON DC//OP-009QCP (CNO SPINTCOMM, 1976-1979) Nationwide Insurance, Retired (1986-2017), z/OS Network Infrastructure Engineering Consultant Email: marktre...@gmail.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-t-regan On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 11:25 AM Lionel B. Dyck wrote: > From a practical standpoint the transition from SMTP to CSSMTP was > trivial for those applications that I'm aware of, For XMITIP it just > required a change to the output writer name from SMTP to CSSMTP. > > > Lionel B. Dyck <>< > Github: https://github.com/lbdyck > > “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what > you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Seymour J Metz > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 10:22 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications > > The devil is in the details. The output writers SMTP and CSSMTP have > documented differences. > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי > נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר > > ____ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on > behalf of Lionel B. Dyck > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 10:58 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications > > If changeman supported SMTP then it should support CSSMTP as well - > the easy way to do it is by writing the e-mail to a sysout class that > CSSMTP will pick up and process. > > > Lionel B. Dyck <>< > Github: https://github.com/lbdyck > > “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what > you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Steve Beaver > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 9:53 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications > > I would suggest you avail yourself of Serena's help. > > I've setup CSSMTP but it was for internal use only > > > Regards, > > > Steve > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Steve Beaver > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 2:41 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications > > My first question to you is your Changeman current on it maintenance? > > > > Steve > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Mark Regan > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 2:34 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications > > What must you change in ChangeMan ZFS to get it to use CSSMTP to send > out its email notifications? I know about the sample skeleton > CNM$$ENT, which mentions using sample ENOTIFY2, but it lacks details > about how to use it with CSSMTP. > > Regards, > > Mark Regan, K8MTR General, EN80tg > CTO1 USNR-Retired (1969-1991), > RUENAAA/CNO WASHINGTON DC//OP-009QCP (CNO SPINTCOMM, 1976-1979) > Nationwide Insurance, Retired (1986-2017), z/OS Network Infrastructure > Engineering Consultant > Email: marktre...@gmail.com > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-t-regan > > -- > For IBM
Re: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications
>From a practical standpoint the transition from SMTP to CSSMTP was trivial for >those applications that I'm aware of, For XMITIP it just required a change to >the output writer name from SMTP to CSSMTP. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 10:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications The devil is in the details. The output writers SMTP and CSSMTP have documented differences. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Lionel B. Dyck Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 10:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications If changeman supported SMTP then it should support CSSMTP as well - the easy way to do it is by writing the e-mail to a sysout class that CSSMTP will pick up and process. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Beaver Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 9:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications I would suggest you avail yourself of Serena's help. I've setup CSSMTP but it was for internal use only Regards, Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Beaver Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 2:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications My first question to you is your Changeman current on it maintenance? Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Regan Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 2:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications What must you change in ChangeMan ZFS to get it to use CSSMTP to send out its email notifications? I know about the sample skeleton CNM$$ENT, which mentions using sample ENOTIFY2, but it lacks details about how to use it with CSSMTP. Regards, Mark Regan, K8MTR General, EN80tg CTO1 USNR-Retired (1969-1991), RUENAAA/CNO WASHINGTON DC//OP-009QCP (CNO SPINTCOMM, 1976-1979) Nationwide Insurance, Retired (1986-2017), z/OS Network Infrastructure Engineering Consultant Email: marktre...@gmail.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-t-regan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications
If changeman supported SMTP then it should support CSSMTP as well - the easy way to do it is by writing the e-mail to a sysout class that CSSMTP will pick up and process. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Beaver Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 9:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications I would suggest you avail yourself of Serena's help. I've setup CSSMTP but it was for internal use only Regards, Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Beaver Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 2:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications My first question to you is your Changeman current on it maintenance? Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Regan Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 2:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications What must you change in ChangeMan ZFS to get it to use CSSMTP to send out its email notifications? I know about the sample skeleton CNM$$ENT, which mentions using sample ENOTIFY2, but it lacks details about how to use it with CSSMTP. Regards, Mark Regan, K8MTR General, EN80tg CTO1 USNR-Retired (1969-1991), RUENAAA/CNO WASHINGTON DC//OP-009QCP (CNO SPINTCOMM, 1976-1979) Nationwide Insurance, Retired (1986-2017), z/OS Network Infrastructure Engineering Consultant Email: marktre...@gmail.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-t-regan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: NFS Export of Data Set File System
Not to argue - they should have a User's Guide but they don't. The key with dsfs is that once you understand the /dsfs/type (txt/bin/rec/sysout) that is it no different than using any other file in a filesystem. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 10:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: NFS Export of Data Set File System On Wed, 10 Jan 2024 09:12:29 -0600, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >There is no users guide ... > Has IBM not noticed the lack? >... but there is an admin guide at > https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=administration-dsfs-guide > That's for admins. But if there are differences between DSFS and a POSIX filesystem they should be described in a User's Guide. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: NFS Export of Data Set File System
There is no users guide but there is an admin guide at https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=administration-dsfs-guide Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 9:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: NFS Export of Data Set File System On Wed, 10 Jan 2024 14:37:22 +, Mark Jacobs wrote: >Can /dsfs and the directories under it be NFS exported such that Windows/Linux >clients can connect to it and then directly read/write z/OS datasets? > What are you looking for beyond: <https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=introduction-zos-conventional-mvs-data-sets> Where's the DSFS User's Guide, which ought to treat such topics? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Checking status of multiple datasets in CLIST and REXX
Paul is spot on - and you can use BPXWDYN to concatenate as well. See examples here https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=output-examples-calling-bpxwdyn-from-rexx-program Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, December 29, 2023 9:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Checking status of multiple datasets in CLIST and REXX On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 14:47:29 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >I need to check whether any of a list of datasets exists and whether any of a >list of ddnames is allocated. I'd rather not trap and parse the output of >LISTALC and LISTCAT, and I'd rather not call LISTDSI for each one. Is there a >simple way to do that in REXX, or would it be better to write a small service >routine in assembler? > How useful would BPXWDYN(INFO ,,,) be? <https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=output-requesting-allocation-information> -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Checking status of multiple datasets in CLIST and REXX
That works well for checking the catalog status *but* not the allocation status. For that you'll need to trap LISTALC or write your own. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Friday, December 29, 2023 8:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Checking status of multiple datasets in CLIST and REXX Of course' how did I forget that :-( Thanks. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of kekronbekron <02dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2023 9:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Checking status of multiple datasets in CLIST and REXX There's a catalog search interface (CSI), and I think there's a sample REXX for using it in SAMPLIB. On Friday, December 29th, 2023 at 20:17, Seymour J Metz wrote: > I need to check whether any of a list of datasets exists and whether any of a > list of ddnames is allocated. I'd rather not trap and parse the output of > LISTALC and LISTCAT, and I'd rather not call LISTDSI for each one. Is there a > simple way to do that in REXX, or would it be better to write a small service > routine in assembler? > > I don't have a requirement to handle XTIOT. > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי > נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: What is the PDS command?
This is a great, albeit a bit dated, overview of the PDS command - aka the Swiss Army Knife of Utilities. There have been many updates, including support for PDSE data sets, but this should give everyone a great overview. https://share.confex.com/share/115/webprogram/Handout/Session7417/zOS%20Basics%20Freeware%20-%20PDS%20The%20Swiss%20Army%20Knife%20of%20Utilities%20-%20Hands-On%20Lab.pdf Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Brennan Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 10:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What is the PDS command? Possibly the only file on the CBT that has its own web page, and it certainly deserves it. I can't imagine working without it. Thanks to John Kalinich and all those who came before. On 12/27/2023 2:05 AM, Mike Schwab wrote: > https://www.cbttape.org/freepds.htm > > On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 3:58 AM Edward Gould < > 04bcc43af339-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > >> HI Roger, >> The PDS command as I remember it from 40 years ago did a lot more >> than ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Dataset File System
It works fine Lionel B. Dyck < Website: GitHub.com/lbdyck Sent from my iPhone 15 Pro Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden > On Dec 23, 2023, at 2:44 PM, Frank Swarbrick > wrote: > > Has anyone used sftp or scp to access an MVS dataset through DSFS? > I can't see any reason it wouldn't work. > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of > Lionel B Dyck > Sent: Friday, December 22, 2023 4:40 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Dataset File System > > I’ve experimented with it and found it has great potential. I also wrote > this > https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/blogs/lionel-dyck2/2023/10/20/data-set-file-system-aka-dsfs-simplified-administr > > Lionel B. Dyck < > Website: GitHub.com/lbdyck > Sent from my iPhone 15 Pro > > Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you > are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden > >> On Dec 22, 2023, at 5:37 PM, Frank Swarbrick >> wrote: >> >> Has anyone made use of DSFS yet? How do you like it? Are there any >> caveats or other weirdness? >> Frank >> >> -- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Dataset File System
I looked and could not find an IBM Idea to address the DFSMShsm migration issues with DSFS so I created on: https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I-3936 Please vote and add your comments. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 10:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dataset File System On 12/22/2023 3:37 PM, Frank Swarbrick wrote: > Has anyone made use of DSFS yet? How do you like it? Are there any caveats > or other weirdness? I really like DSFS, but it has one major failing: migrated data sets. If a data set is migrated, it becomes 100% invisible to DSFS. If you can't see it, you can't even initiate a recall. Therefore, if you wish to grep through a directory or something like that, you must first prepare the environment by recalling everything. That's inconvenient. I realize migrate/recall is somewhat "old fashioned" but we still do it and I suspect others do as well. -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 https://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ This e-mail message, including any attachments, appended messages and the information contained therein, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient or have otherwise received this email message in error, any use, dissemination, distribution, review, storage or copying of this e-mail message and the information contained therein is strictly prohibited. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of this email message and do not otherwise utilize or retain this email message or any or all of the information contained therein. Although this email message and any attachments or appended messages are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by the sender for any loss or damage arising in any way from its opening or use. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Dataset File System
IBM does provide a z/OS Data Set File System Administration and a z/OS Data Set File System Messages and Codes. There is no Users Guide because there is no real need once one understands how it works. DSDS, in a nutshell, is a root mount point from which the OMVS shell users access z/OS datasets as if they were just another file. There a nuances for text, record format, binary, and spool files that the users need to understand. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, December 22, 2023 7:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dataset File System On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 17:40:43 -0600, Lionel B Dyck wrote: >I’ve experimented with it and found it has great potential. I also >wrote this >https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/blogs/lionel >-dyck2/2023/10/20/data-set-file-system-aka-dsfs-simplified-administr > Which begins: BM introduced the Data Set File System (DSFS) with z/OS 2.5 as an option for shell users of z/OS to easily access z/OS datasets using traditional shell services. Where's the User's Guide? If, as I believe, interaction of traditional shell services with DSFS differs significantly from interaction with z/FS, the difference should be documented in a User's Guide. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Dataset File System
I’ve experimented with it and found it has great potential. I also wrote this https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/blogs/lionel-dyck2/2023/10/20/data-set-file-system-aka-dsfs-simplified-administr Lionel B. Dyck < Website: GitHub.com/lbdyck Sent from my iPhone 15 Pro Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden > On Dec 22, 2023, at 5:37 PM, Frank Swarbrick > wrote: > > Has anyone made use of DSFS yet? How do you like it? Are there any caveats > or other weirdness? > Frank > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Rexx to clone users in RACF
You can always try the open-source REXXADM ISPF dialog found at www.cbttape.org (check the updates page for the most recent) or at https://github.com/lbdyck/racfadm (I host it but I didn't write it - just contributed to it) Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of ITschak Mugzach Sent: Friday, November 17, 2023 6:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Rexx to clone users in RACF If you do not have a product, use RACF unload utility and look for all records associated with the source user and generate racf commands to copy the user. The records are described in racf macros and interfaces guide. ITschak בתאריך יום ו׳, 17 בנוב׳ 2023 ב-14:44 מאת Steve Beaver < 050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>: > You only have 3 choices. zSecure or VRA Or write your own utility > > Sent from my iPhone > > No one said I could type with one thumb > > > On Nov 16, 2023, at 23:08, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > > > > *Doesn't the RACF ISPF interface have the ability to close a user?* > > > > No, Consul RACF which became z/Secure has that capability. As > > Radowslaw says, set up a template or use an ISPF file tailoring > > skeleton with a set of templates and generate from a panel. > > > > > >> On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 1:55 PM Jon Perryman > wrote: > >> > >>> On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 08:04:47 +0400, Peter > wrote: > >>> > >>> I am looking for a rexx logic which can multiple RACFID based on > >>> one > >> model user ? > >> > >> Doesn't the RACF ISPF interface have the ability to close a user? > >> > >> --- > >> --- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO > >> IBM-MAIN > >> > > > > > > -- > > Wayne V. Bickerdike > > > > > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO > > IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Rocket miniconda frustrations
With the z/OS Open Tools you don't need to use zopen, or any front-end, to install any of their ports. For example, here is a direct link to the curl port https://github.com/ZOSOpenTools/curlport Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 5:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Rocket miniconda frustrations I find having to have an entire front-end to install something that can just be expanded with a tar or pax command way overkill. Dave Jousma Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of David Crayford Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 6:21:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Rocket miniconda frustrations > On 3 Nov 2023, at 1: 59 am, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: > > > You can get another port of curl from https: //urldefense. > com/v3/__https: //zosopentools. github. > io/meta/*/__;Iw!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!k_US3TMoavpn0TTm6PL_t4rNIIj6tb_vQCrZ > o3Woa9SZfCu8-YcuyurtSKg-wqbEMfgyiqFe5Wlf2nWnRsA$ > On 3 Nov 2023, at 1:59 am, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: > > You can get another port of curl from > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://zosopentools.github.io/meta/*/__;I > w!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!k_US3TMoavpn0TTm6PL_t4rNIIj6tb_vQCrZo3Woa9SZfCu8-Y > cuyurtSKg-wqbEMfgyiqFe5Wlf2nWnRsA$ > and it is very simple - much easier (imho) than using miniconda. If he’s got problems going through a proxy couldn't the same kind of problems occur using zopen and GitHub with Github tokens? I don’t find using zopen to be easier to use then conda. It’s certainly nowhere near as powerful, for example, virtual environments. I like zopen but I find having to source .env files a PITA and slow when configured in profile scripts. Using conda is just like using homebrew on my Mac. Hat’s off the z/OS Open Tools devs for getting something working well enough with only shell scripts. > > We also discuss things related to the z/OS Open Tools here > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://discord.com/channels/8803224716083 > 44597/1118254421202182185__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!k_US3TMoavpn0TTm6PL_t4rNIIj6tb_vQCrZo3Woa9SZfCu8-YcuyurtSKg-wqbEMfgyiqFe5Wlf3e-1v2I$ > and you're welcome to join us. > > > Lionel B. Dyck <>< > Website: > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.lbdsoftware.com__;!!MwwqYLOC6b > 6whF7V!k_US3TMoavpn0TTm6PL_t4rNIIj6tb_vQCrZo3Woa9SZfCu8-YcuyurtSKg-wqb > EMfgyiqFe5WlfHGqYwrU$ > Github: > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/lbdyck__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6w > hF7V!k_US3TMoavpn0TTm6PL_t4rNIIj6tb_vQCrZo3Woa9SZfCu8-YcuyurtSKg-wqbEM > fgyiqFe5Wlfg7_GH4U$ > > “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you > are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Jousma, David > Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 12:54 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Rocket miniconda frustrations > > All, > > I have a simple need to make cURL available in my environment. I > downloaded, and installed MiniConda from the Rocket open source webpage. > We are behind a proxy, and am having all sorts of problems trying to > get that to work. > > Does anyone know of a way to download the needed “repository” that > miniconda uses, and do a disconnected install? > > Dave Jousma > > > > This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may > be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If > you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or > disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, > any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this > information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by > informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, > please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this > error is appreciated. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, sen
Re: Rocket miniconda frustrations
You can get another port of curl from https://zosopentools.github.io/meta/#/ and it is very simple - much easier (imho) than using miniconda. We also discuss things related to the z/OS Open Tools here https://discord.com/channels/880322471608344597/1118254421202182185 and you're welcome to join us. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 12:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Rocket miniconda frustrations All, I have a simple need to make cURL available in my environment. I downloaded, and installed MiniConda from the Rocket open source webpage. We are behind a proxy, and am having all sorts of problems trying to get that to work. Does anyone know of a way to download the needed repository that miniconda uses, and do a disconnected install? Dave Jousma This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Extracting SMP/e details
Check out File 778 or File 941 on www.cbttape.org as it may have the basics for what you want Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of ITschak Mugzach Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2023 9:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Extracting SMP/e details The standard solution is gimapi. We developed an assembler program since we failed to use rexx. However, you can list the csi and process the output ITschak בתאריך יום ה׳, 19 באוק׳ 2023 ב-17:33 מאת Lizette Koehler < stars...@mindspring.com>: > I need a simple process to get the following out of SMP/e > > PTF. Fmid. Date received. Date applied > > I am thinking of writing a Rexx or icetool to read a listing to > produce the one liners > > Just wanted to check here to see if there was a better way > > I have not found much on cbttape > > From time to time I need to show when fixes went in. So this just > needs to be a simple report > > Thanks > > Sent from EarthLink Mobile mail > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: System Z Enthusiasts discord (yes - Z folks do use discord)
Along with Nitro, users can 'boost' a Discord server with a monthly subscription but that is not required. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jay Maynard Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 8:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: System Z Enthusiasts discord (yes - Z folks do use discord) As I understand it, Discord has a corporate version. They also get funding from users' Nitro subscriptions. On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 8:00 AM Rick Troth wrote: > On 10/11/23 12:55, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: > > There is an online community for all System Z Enthusiasts on discord > that is > > growing. There are discussions ranging from the z/OS Open Tools to > Hercules > > to CBTape tools to Stack Overflow questions on Z to nearly anything > > and everything related to Z. > > > > Check it out at: https://discord.gg/3PKgUayuSV > > > Second this. > > If you wish, you can think of it as a VMSHARE work-alike. It's an > "online conference". > > Thanks Lionel for inviting us. Thanks Steven for setting it up. > > > > > Lionel B. Dyck <>< > > Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com > > Github: https://github.com/lbdyck > > > > “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is > > what > you > > are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden > > > I should also qualify this endorsement. There are two concerns, and > maybe they can be addressed in the near future. > First is supporting the forum. When you look at massively popular > platforms like Twitter and Facebook, you see their demise. How is > Discord funded? We should keep in mind that we likely will have to > step-up to some sort of support down the road. > LISTSERV gets by on the generosity of academic institutions (in this > case the University of Alabama, "Roll Tide!"). But even these > sometimes have to trim their budgets. > > Secondly, and this is personal, I much prefer interaction via email. > Would love to see platforms like Discord support that mode of > communication. Two very important "circles" in my own life use FB > Messenger, which is horribly captive. (But the others don't get it, > not being techie; they don't see the entrapment.) If someone happens > to know of a plug-in or a mod (in this case, to Discord) enabling > email please do share. The problems with email are historical (the > original design) and a tragedy of the commons (the unpoliced shared > space will be marred by the nere do wells). > > > -- R; <>< > > > > > > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO > > IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Jay Maynard -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
z/OS root filesystem
I just learned about these SAMPLIB members - and found a few of my associates who also were unaware. Sharing: - SYS1.SAMPLIB(BPXMKDIR) - for root file system (version root) - SYS1.SAMPLIB(BPXISYS1) - for sysplex root Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
DSFS IBM Idea
Please consider voting for this idea to have DSFS createparm support masking: https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I-3869 Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS DSFS IBM Idea - please consider voting
It's a full filesystem so /etc wouldn't be appropriate and that would add an extra 'qualifier' on the path for the users. Instead of entering /dsfs/txt/hlq/file it would have to be /etc/dsfs/txt/hlq/file. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, October 13, 2023 1:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS DSFS IBM Idea - please consider voting On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 13:31:22 -0500, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >The mount point for dsfs must be /dsfs in the root and if the root filesystem >is replaced there isn't much the site can do but be aware of it in the new >filesystem. > I paid too much attention to "won't be lost" and too little to "please deliver ". Regardless, IBM service shouldn't obliterate site-peculiar additions to '/', especially when one is required by an IBM product. That should be APAR-able, not merely an Idea. Or, the required mount point shoulc be changed to /etc/dsfs. >-Original Message- >From: Of Paul Gilmartin >Sent: Friday, October 13, 2023 1:18 PM >> >With the default SMP/E root filesystem please deliver it with a /dsfs >mount point so that it is there and won't be lost with maintenance. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS DSFS IBM Idea - please consider voting
The mount point for dsfs must be /dsfs in the root and if the root filesystem is replaced there isn't much the site can do but be aware of it in the new filesystem. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, October 13, 2023 1:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS DSFS IBM Idea - please consider voting On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 11:56:47 -0500, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >Please review, and vote, for this idea to add the /dsfs as a default >mount point on the IBM z/OS distributions. >https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I- >3868 > Where I read: In the default z/OS distribution predefine empty mount point /dsfs With the default SMP/E root filesystem please deliver it with a /dsfs mount point so that it is there and won't be lost with maintenance. Underreaching. A better requirement would simply be: Don't lose site-defined mount points with maintenance. Doesn't IBM take pains not to regress site changes in /etc? Would /etc/dsfs be a durable mount point; no Idea needed? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
z/OS DSFS IBM Idea - please consider voting
Please review, and vote, for this idea to add the /dsfs as a default mount point on the IBM z/OS distributions. https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I-3868 Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation
Shmuel - this appears to be an issue unique to Edge and one that Microsoft will have to address. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Friday, October 13, 2023 10:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation Have you gotten index.html to work with edge? Specifically, it seems to "download" the PDF instead of opening a new tab. Changing target=_blank to target=_new didn't help. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Tom Brennan Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 3:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation Well, I said "today" but it's now 8 minutes after midnight so I missed it by that much. The IBM index file was changed again so my old code needed to be pretty-much redone. It seems to work ok for me, creating directories and shortcuts. It also creates a new file index.html which is a simpler version of the ibm browser index, with links on the titles so you don't have to tediously move the mouse over to the right to select something. If anybody is interested see this page on the server under my desk: https://secure-web.cisco.com/1viklOGAw9OqNB2SkOE2E_expAQAttX-vsXqku-YeNBBprd wRJVOP-1Ia44YaEkD51KHejjQIJlf-lgX8rOjf-zjwymUUTMvoJCN75kF96pQX33u6iyQiSix1gD YwWMLUUNVNbCs0WwGyJL0UCOfxvcdZicnparUusSBIB1YAI7VfP-EbZkZUgrbyVu3pMT5Z57_y8q pp18jHeoEQ4fYAtsIDUmv-SvQFjiFmwGNTwjN6W1Cld3yj0EwwwWh1ym0XHUa7jGxSHHigczTNH8 jTvGu9Ed1U17_lN8KH8vJF1oIeDoZYJYyW3t1g93xK7_wF_DCJLzC8FrBqKr8SWIef7FBa-mUpQk HLWg52pkoBEHk9uISvY87FqQY3mWZhNqOd173hzlUDGyZ_yA9cdpCHBlVR7KEo4g9iy56mdTGh8h AztzX3ICo4R1JRnvH5tcx7/https%3A%2F%2Fblog.mildredbrennan.com%2F%3Fp%3D797 On 10/10/2023 9:46 PM, Brian Westerman wrote: > Tom, > > Do you still have the PC script that builds the nice directory with the manual names? > > Brian > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation
I use Chrome as my browser on Windows but thought I'd try Edge (something I haven't tried for months). I opened the index html (read me 1st) and clicked on a link for a pub and it did 'download' the pub even though is it local. Seems like an issue with Edge but not sure how to fix it - just confirming. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Friday, October 13, 2023 10:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation Have you gotten index.html to work with edge? Specifically, it seems to "download" the PDF instead of opening a new tab. Changing target=_blank to target=_new didn't help. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Tom Brennan Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 3:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation Well, I said "today" but it's now 8 minutes after midnight so I missed it by that much. The IBM index file was changed again so my old code needed to be pretty-much redone. It seems to work ok for me, creating directories and shortcuts. It also creates a new file index.html which is a simpler version of the ibm browser index, with links on the titles so you don't have to tediously move the mouse over to the right to select something. If anybody is interested see this page on the server under my desk: https://secure-web.cisco.com/1viklOGAw9OqNB2SkOE2E_expAQAttX-vsXqku-YeNBBprd wRJVOP-1Ia44YaEkD51KHejjQIJlf-lgX8rOjf-zjwymUUTMvoJCN75kF96pQX33u6iyQiSix1gD YwWMLUUNVNbCs0WwGyJL0UCOfxvcdZicnparUusSBIB1YAI7VfP-EbZkZUgrbyVu3pMT5Z57_y8q pp18jHeoEQ4fYAtsIDUmv-SvQFjiFmwGNTwjN6W1Cld3yj0EwwwWh1ym0XHUa7jGxSHHigczTNH8 jTvGu9Ed1U17_lN8KH8vJF1oIeDoZYJYyW3t1g93xK7_wF_DCJLzC8FrBqKr8SWIef7FBa-mUpQk HLWg52pkoBEHk9uISvY87FqQY3mWZhNqOd173hzlUDGyZ_yA9cdpCHBlVR7KEo4g9iy56mdTGh8h AztzX3ICo4R1JRnvH5tcx7/https%3A%2F%2Fblog.mildredbrennan.com%2F%3Fp%3D797 On 10/10/2023 9:46 PM, Brian Westerman wrote: > Tom, > > Do you still have the PC script that builds the nice directory with the manual names? > > Brian > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Israel
SVC 13 Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jerome Benting Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 1:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Israel BLAH BLAH BLAH -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lionel B. Dyck Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 8:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Israel This thread was dead until you resurrected it. Darren is a volunteer and is doing a great job keeping this Listserv alive for us and deserves our appreciation. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jerome Benting Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 1:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Israel Emmie . I am 100 percent with you on this. Too much vanity here.. Darren you have to act and KILL this stupid thread -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 8:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Israel Yes. I am glad that your brought it up. No talk about the Russian invasion was posted. There are different rules for different topics. Darrin should appoint another administrator to manage the board. He has failed to enforce the rules. On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 03:06:03 p.m. EDT, Radoslaw Skorupka <0471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: There are other methods to check someone's safety. One of them is to send an email to that person and NOT to THOUSAND others. BTW: the topic is not about the person, it is about country. AFAIR there was no such topic about Ukraine. We (polish people) had been receiving over 100k refugees *daily*. 100k places to sleep, meals, clothes, etc. I was the part of the community which helped and tried to organize it. However I didn't talk about it on IBM-MAIN. Not because it was something not important - just because this is a list about mainframes. P.S. I also fully support people in Israel, I am willing to help them as I can. But I won't create off-topic noise on IBM-MAIN - it won't help anyone. P.P.S. Sometimes I exchange emails with some persons from IBM-MAIN list, in many cases the topic is not related to mainframes. We do it OFF LIST just to reduce the noise. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 10.10.2023 o 19:08, Lionel B. Dyck pisze: > It is not unreasonable to be concerned about the health and safety of the > community here. > > > Lionel B. Dyck <>< > Website:https://www.lbdsoftware.com > Github:https://github.com/lbdyck > > “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is > what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - > John Wooden > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of esmie moo > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 12:06 PM To:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Israel > > It is too bad that Darrin did not purge your post from the outset. Darren > please do your job as administrator and stop this thread. > Elspeth > On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 12:37:32 p.m. EDT, Steve > Beaver<050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > I started this thread to see if Benyamin Disson was ok. > > Let's stop this thread unless one of the guys in Israel gets hurt. > > Steve > > -- > -- > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of willie bunter > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 11:19 AM To:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Israel > > Yes, of course it has. The rules depend upon the "subject" being posted. > It may have nothing to do with technical information. > > On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 08:05:48 p.m. EDT, Dave > Beagle<0525eaef6620-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Have the rules been suspended? > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Monday, October 9, 2023, 4:55 PM, esmie > moo<012780d99c7b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Enough please about politics. This is a technical information board. Daren > please pull the plug on this thread. > >
Re: Israel
This thread was dead until you resurrected it. Darren is a volunteer and is doing a great job keeping this Listserv alive for us and deserves our appreciation. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jerome Benting Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 1:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Israel Emmie . I am 100 percent with you on this. Too much vanity here.. Darren you have to act and KILL this stupid thread -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 8:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Israel Yes. I am glad that your brought it up. No talk about the Russian invasion was posted. There are different rules for different topics. Darrin should appoint another administrator to manage the board. He has failed to enforce the rules. On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 03:06:03 p.m. EDT, Radoslaw Skorupka <0471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: There are other methods to check someone's safety. One of them is to send an email to that person and NOT to THOUSAND others. BTW: the topic is not about the person, it is about country. AFAIR there was no such topic about Ukraine. We (polish people) had been receiving over 100k refugees *daily*. 100k places to sleep, meals, clothes, etc. I was the part of the community which helped and tried to organize it. However I didn't talk about it on IBM-MAIN. Not because it was something not important - just because this is a list about mainframes. P.S. I also fully support people in Israel, I am willing to help them as I can. But I won't create off-topic noise on IBM-MAIN - it won't help anyone. P.P.S. Sometimes I exchange emails with some persons from IBM-MAIN list, in many cases the topic is not related to mainframes. We do it OFF LIST just to reduce the noise. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 10.10.2023 o 19:08, Lionel B. Dyck pisze: > It is not unreasonable to be concerned about the health and safety of the > community here. > > > Lionel B. Dyck <>< > Website:https://www.lbdsoftware.com > Github:https://github.com/lbdyck > > “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is > what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - > John Wooden > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of esmie moo > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 12:06 PM To:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Israel > > It is too bad that Darrin did not purge your post from the outset. Darren > please do your job as administrator and stop this thread. > Elspeth > On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 12:37:32 p.m. EDT, Steve > Beaver<050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > I started this thread to see if Benyamin Disson was ok. > > Let's stop this thread unless one of the guys in Israel gets hurt. > > Steve > > -- > -- > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of willie bunter > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 11:19 AM To:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Israel > > Yes, of course it has. The rules depend upon the "subject" being posted. > It may have nothing to do with technical information. > > On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 08:05:48 p.m. EDT, Dave > Beagle<0525eaef6620-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Have the rules been suspended? > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Monday, October 9, 2023, 4:55 PM, esmie > moo<012780d99c7b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Enough please about politics. This is a technical information board. Daren > please pull the plug on this thread. > > On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 12:46:05 p.m. EDT, Steve > Beaver<050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Has anyone heard from Benyamin in Israel since the shit storm has started? > > Sent from my iPhone > > No one said I could type with one thumb > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access inst
