Re: Exact AT-TLS parms for SMP/E Download

2023-03-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
That sounds like they are greylisting your provider. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Charles Mills [charl...@mcn.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 3:47

Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

2023-03-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
I'd prefer neither. While I consider them equally offensive, the use of the c-word has sexust connotations that I oppose, sp I would use the a-word. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN

Re: Is z/OS Name/Token pair retrieval supported from REXX?

2023-03-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
Why? Chasing the pointers yourself will make the code more fragile. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Mike Shaw [techsupp...@quickref.com] Sent: Tuesday

Re: Is z/OS Name/Token pair retrieval supported from REXX?

2023-03-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
How much core does your mainframe have? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Paul Gilmartin [042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Tuesday

Re: Is z/OS Name/Token pair retrieval supported from REXX?

2023-03-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
CMS also has macro-driven services, and z/OS also has callable services. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 12:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: BSAM READ AMODE 31 RMODE 31

2023-03-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
(which bsam supoorts) so it had to be a pointer to where the pointer ( in 64 bit that would 8 bytes ) Thanks > On Mar 20, 2023, at 3:46 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > IMHO it's clearer to just use > > READ PDSDECB,SF,PDSDCB,address _of_READ_buffer,MF=E > CHECK PDSDECB > >

Re: PL/I Opt. Compiler V2 manuals?

2023-03-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
Yes, but why doesn't it go into a save dialog instead of rendering it inappropriately? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Mike Schwab [mike.a.sch

Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

2023-03-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
And bum is equivalent to the a-word. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Jeremy Nicoll [jn.ls.mfrm...@letterboxes.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 9:55 AM

Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

2023-03-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
also don't understand why fanny pack is offensive but bum bag is not. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Schmutzok, Mike (US - Georgia) [02dd6b12f291-

Re: BSAM READ AMODE 31 RMODE 31

2023-03-20 Thread Seymour J Metz
IMHO it's clearer to just use READ PDSDECB,SF,PDSDCB,address _of_READ_buffer,MF=E CHECK PDSDECB -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Joseph Reichman

Re: PL/I Opt. Compiler V2 manuals?

2023-03-20 Thread Seymour J Metz
I'd rather stick to the native OS/2 version for the time being, until I have the native Linux version set up. Thanks. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf

Re: location of JCL for started task

2023-03-20 Thread Seymour J Metz
Both JES2 and JES3 have alternative PROC sources. Worst case is a started job with a JCLLIB DD. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Michael Brennan

Re: PL/I Opt. Compiler V2 manuals?

2023-03-20 Thread Seymour J Metz
If someone responds off-list, please send me the link. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Dave Jones [d...@vsoft-software.com] Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023

Re: BSAM READ AMODE 31 RMODE 31

2023-03-20 Thread Seymour J Metz
. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Joseph Reichman [reichman...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 10:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: BSAM READ

Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

2023-03-19 Thread Seymour J Metz
Also Kipling. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Tony Harminc Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 10:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question for our international friends (mostly) On Sun, 19 Mar 2023 at 21:28, Bob Bridges

Re: location of JCL for started task

2023-03-19 Thread Seymour J Metz
Typo doing C should be including a JOB card. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Paul Gilmartin [042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent

Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

2023-03-19 Thread Seymour J Metz
Are "route" and "rut" related? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Tony Harminc [t...@harminc.net] Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2023 1

Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

2023-03-19 Thread Seymour J Metz
Northern ir Southern? Or is "roden" the same in both? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bernd Oppolzer [bernd.oppol...@t-online.de] Sent: Satur

Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

2023-03-19 Thread Seymour J Metz
Well, UK English can also get us Americans in trouble, e.g., "fanny". -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw [032fff1b

Re: location of JCL for started task

2023-03-19 Thread Seymour J Metz
like Generated JOB card Generated EXEC PROC=name from START with keyword parameters from start Generated IEFRDER DD with parameters from START -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN

Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

2023-03-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
I say Id Cams, Zee Oh Ess, Ess Queue Ell. IFOX00 is Assembler (XF), the last free assembler in the CP-67, DOS/360, OS/360 lines. It looked like a rewritten Assembler (F), but there were enough differences that an OS/360 Stage 1 sysgen wouldn't assemble on it. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http

Re: ChatGPT writes mainframe jokes for St. Patrick;s

2023-03-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
The only tools that I'm aware of for that sort of quoting were offline readers, e.g., OLX. Format=flowed is for Internet e-mail and I'm not aware of anybody retrofitting it to BBS software. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: ChatGPT writes mainframe jokes for St. Patrick;s

2023-03-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
382-7313 /* I am CopyCat of Borg. Your tagline will be assimilated. */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Friday, March 17, 2023 10:55 Tagline? There's a term I haven't seen in decades. I fondly remember offline readers that co

Re: Git, and other Open Tools, Alternative for z/OS

2023-03-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
, anything from UOW (although the latter eventually morphed into chargeable, also with good support.) -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Dave Jousma

Re: ChatGPT writes mainframe jokes for St. Patrick;s

2023-03-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
nitials >" style of quoting? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 17, 2023 10:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV

Re: Processing SMF Type 15 records help

2023-03-16 Thread Seymour J Metz
; Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2023 11:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Processing SMF Type 15 records help I already included it: ** ASMA044E Undefined symbol - SMF82ITE ** ASMA435I Record 273 in SYS1.MACLIB(IHBOPLTX) on volume: A4RES1 On 2023-03-16 11:00, Seymour J Metz wrote:

Re: Processing SMF Type 15 records help

2023-03-16 Thread Seymour J Metz
/000) _RMDSSETC '000' RMDS (nnn/000) _DFSMS07 SETC 'NO' DFSMS ST 07 (YES/NO)new in DFSMS 1.2 Error Messages: ** ASMA044E Undefined symbol - SMF82ITE ** ASMA435I Record 273 in SYS1.MACLIB(IHBOPLTX) on volume: A4RES1 Regards, David On 2023-03-16 10:02, Seymour J Metz wrote: > What m

Re: Processing SMF Type 15 records help

2023-03-16 Thread Seymour J Metz
What macro libraries did you use? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of David Spiegel <0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2023 10:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Processing SMF Type 15

Re: Processing SMF Type 15 records help

2023-03-16 Thread Seymour J Metz
You should be able to process them in PL/I. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Steve Doonan Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2023 9:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Processing SMF Type 15 records help Good Day Listserv readers, I

Re: linklist error at IPL

2023-03-16 Thread Seymour J Metz
Look for the message in the Master Trace. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Richard McIntosh Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2023 9:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: linklist error at IPL Is there anyway to get alerted to a linklist

Re: Help with BSAM WRITE VBA getting 002-30

2023-03-16 Thread Seymour J Metz
Just seeing if you were awake. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Why change the carriage control from single space to eject? Thanks. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN

Re: Help with BSAM WRITE VBA getting 002-30

2023-03-15 Thread Seymour J Metz
The first HW is the length for both BDW and RDW. BDW DS0H DCY(*-SOF) DCH'0' DCY(*-SOF) DCH'0' DCC' ' SOF EQU * From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Joseph

Re: CS/CDS instruction

2023-03-15 Thread Seymour J Metz
Yes, with STFL. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Ituriel do Neto [03427ec2837d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2023 9:30 AM

Re: not using SMPe

2023-03-15 Thread Seymour J Metz
They do, however, have the concept of dependency among packages. The configuration control software that I mentioned does quite a bit more. Are they as powerful as SMP? No, but they fill a similar niche. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: not using SMPe

2023-03-15 Thread Seymour J Metz
I coined the term "stupidity above and beyond the call of duty" for such incidents. Richard Feynman (ז״ל) would have referred to it as "cargo cult systems programming". -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: not using SMPe

2023-03-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
There are a lot of people using package managers in the Linux world, and a lot of software available as, e.g., deb, rpm, files. To say nothing of, e.g., cvs, git, SCCS, svn. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe

Re: not using SMPe

2023-03-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
Yes, and it is a *VERY* bad idea. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bill Giannelli [billgianne...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2023 8:40 AM To: IBM

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Bad backup stories (was: Re: Ransomware in VSAM and DB2)

2023-03-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
? The BUNCH machine's I'm familiar with were somewhat earlier, and didn't have removable disks. What machine and drive was that? FWIW, I know something about all five but have only used CDC and UNIVAC, plus a dwarf not part of the BUNCH. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu

Re: IEC036I 002-30 trying to write messages to snapx

2023-03-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
If your longest message is 120 then you only need 129. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Joseph Reichman [reichman...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 13

Re: IEC036I 002-30 trying to write messages to snapx

2023-03-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
+9; +4 for BDW, +4 for RDW, +1 for ANSI carriage control character. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Joseph Reichman [reichman...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday

Re: IEC036I 002-30 trying to write messages to snapx

2023-03-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
I responded before I saw this. Yes, you need both BDW and RDW. They should not have the same value; the length in the BDW should include the BDW. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN

Re: STP timer information under z/OS?

2023-03-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
Yes, the TOD clock uses UTC, but doesn't z/OS still apply adjustments when displaying time? I haven't checked, but I suspect that z/VM does as well. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN

Re: IEC036I 002-30 trying to write messages to snapx

2023-03-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
You don't need to write a large block but you do need to construct both a BDW and an RDW. The length in the RDW should be 5 (control character plus RDW) than the length of the text, and the lenght in the BDW should be 4 more than that.. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: IEC036I 002-30 trying to write messages to snapx

2023-03-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
: Re: IEC036I 002-30 trying to write messages to snapx I m in bed but I remember the DECB I just put in my working storage dsect Like so WS_DSECT DS 18F IHADECB DSECT=NO WORKAREA. DS.CL100 On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 12:03 AM Seymour J Metz

Re: IEC036I 002-30 trying to write messages to snapx

2023-03-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
That's not all of the code. How did you define WRITEWRK and DECB? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Joseph Reichman Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2023 11:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IEC036I 002-30 trying to write messages to

Re: SMP)e

2023-03-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
Maybe it's time for an RFE. Is there a business case for a new hold class to address this? something like MANUALPRE(UY12345)? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: SMP)e

2023-03-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
Was there a HOLD un the PTF with an explanation that it had to be on a separate APPLY from the prereq? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Barbara Nitz

Re: zOSMF

2023-03-09 Thread Seymour J Metz
MVS/SE R1 ("SE1") installed on top of OS/VS2 R3.7 and MVS/SE R2 ("SE2") installed on top of OS/VS2 R3.8; in both cases one of the prerequisite selectable units disabled DSS ("By the pricking of my thumbs, SU7 this way comes.") MVS/SP V1 replaced SE2 and exploited, but did not

Re: zOSMF

2023-03-08 Thread Seymour J Metz
? DFP is not a prerequisite for MVS/SP. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Mike Schwab Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2023 2:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: zOSMF

Re: NJE history

2023-03-08 Thread Seymour J Metz
? I don't see z/OS in the article. JES2 is also part of the base charge, although there once was a chargeable NJE product for MVS. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Ad TCP/Socket programs in REXX (Re: Mainframe REXX (Re: Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx - again (Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-03-08 Thread Seymour J Metz
There is lots of Rexx off of the mainframe; it just doesn't get much press. I just wish that it had native regexen with named captures. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN

Re: zOSMF

2023-03-08 Thread Seymour J Metz
ns or Technical Newsletters." Gotta love bitsavers. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of David Spiegel [0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Tu

Re: Ad TCP/Socket programs in REXX (Re: Mainframe REXX (Re: Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx - again (Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-03-08 Thread Seymour J Metz
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of René Jansen [rene.vincent.jan...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2023 4:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re

Re: NJE history

2023-03-08 Thread Seymour J Metz
Thanks; I've added a link. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bfishing [bfish...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2023 8:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN

NJE history

2023-03-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
source it. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: zOSMF

2023-03-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
ITYM OS/VS2 3.8J. I would have expected that by 1986 most MVS customers would have installed MVS/SE if not MVS/SP; both MVS/SE and MVS/SP V1 installed on top of OS/VS2 3.8 with an appropriate SU repertoire.. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: zOSMF

2023-03-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
uesday, March 7, 2023 8:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: zOSMF Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, Do you remember MVS/SP V1 R3.8? I don't. Freilichen Purim Regards, David On 2023-03-06 23:39, Seymour J Metz wrote: > MVS/SP V1 R3.8? I believe that was the last release that did

Re: zOSMF

2023-03-06 Thread Seymour J Metz
MVS/SP V1 R3.8? I believe that was the last release that did not require XA or better. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of David Spiegel [0468385049d1

Re: BookManager

2023-03-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
AFAIK, IBM used the BookManager BUILD tag set, which is a superset of BookMaster. Note that the PC versions of BookManager BUILD were totally different and did not support Script input. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
AFAIK, the only issues for connecting two LPARS with a CF running on a CP of the same CEC are cost and performance. For cross-CEC connections, a CTCA link is enough for XCF, but anything more, e.g., GRS star, requires a CF link. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: Virtual Storage Manager - LDA.

2023-03-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
VSMLIST is certainly the best way to test what z/OS has allocated in large blocks, but I believe that the OP would be better served by using PL/I facilities to allocate and report the storage. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
The issue is performance. Depending on what you are doing, the degraded performance may be acceptable. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Laurence Chiu

Re: Virtual Storage Manager - LDA.

2023-03-03 Thread Seymour J Metz
efficient, you can request storage usage reports with quite a bit of detail. sas On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 2:37 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > I doubt that you will get what you need that way. PL/I subaloocates > storage withing big blocks, and doing your own GETMAIN/STORAGE instead of > using na

Re: Virtual Storage Manager - LDA.

2023-03-03 Thread Seymour J Metz
and give the free/allocated counts. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Massimo Biancucci [mad4...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 2:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

2023-03-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
The timer code was different for S/360 and S/370 and I believe that OS/360 set some control registers when generated for a S/370. There were 3rd party mods to increase the memory limits of some models. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of

Re: Mainframe REXX (Re: Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx - again (Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-03-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
ILC doesn't seem to be a thing in the open source community. It's not an easy thing to achieve. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Rick Troth [tro

Re: Z15 EOM

2023-03-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
? © 2022 IBM CorporationIBM z16 Technical Overview_91 is "© 2022 IBM CorporationIBM z16 Technical Overview_91 IBM zSystems IBM z16 Configuration: PDU based single frame Rear View", not a rack-mounted version. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on

Re: Mainframe REXX (Re: Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx - again (Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-03-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
Reserved words? We don't need no stinking reserved words. That's one of the things I like about PL/I. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of David Crayford

Re: Mainframe REXX (Re: Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx - again (Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-03-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
A good compilers does, e.g., flow analysis, to optimize the generated code. It may be difficult to hand optimize well enough to beat a good compiler and still keep the code readable. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM

Re: CS/CDS instruction

2023-03-01 Thread Seymour J Metz
In addition to the obvious instructions Phil mentioned, there is also PLO. I don't have any relevant performance data. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf

Re: Mainframe REXX (Re: Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx - again (Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-03-01 Thread Seymour J Metz
Is there an active SHARE requirement for ANSI Rexx, ooRexx or both? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Rony G. Flatscher [rony.flatsc...@wu.ac.at] Sent

Re: Load module/program object

2023-03-01 Thread Seymour J Metz
Well, if he's sure that SSI is all he wants, then, yes, IEHLIST is more appropriate, but off the top of my head I don't see a use case, whereas IDR records have a more obvious utility. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

2023-03-01 Thread Seymour J Metz
Did I mention that I hate URL rewriters? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 5:43 AM

Re: Bob Richards

2023-03-01 Thread Seymour J Metz
There was an announcement. If you knew him well, could you write a tribute for cbttape.org? Thanks. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Rick Troth [tro

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

2023-03-01 Thread Seymour J Metz
Alta Vista? That's a blast from the past. I miss the old Deja Vu, before google bought it and destroyed the user interface. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-02-28 Thread Seymour J Metz
ObGungaDin Yes, the documentation is often bad, but having them available makes things so much easier. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Jeremy Nicoll Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 6:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: z/OS 3.1 Announcement US Letter

2023-02-28 Thread Seymour J Metz
practical than it used to be. ;-) From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of David Crayford Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 5:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 3.1 Announcement US Letter On 1/3/23 06:37, Seymour J Metz wrote: > Te

Re: z/OS 3.1 Announcement US Letter

2023-02-28 Thread Seymour J Metz
Telum isn't really an AI engine, but it has, e.g., vector capabilities motivated by AI applications. I expect to see it used for more than AI. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

2023-02-28 Thread Seymour J Metz
The google search engine is really terrible, and I welcome challengers that are more interested in accurate hits than in product placement. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN

Re: Big z/OS Preview Announcement

2023-02-28 Thread Seymour J Metz
UUID to correlate CSI with system. I would expect any port of SSH to include SFTP, but disappointments happen. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Paul

Re: Big z/OS Preview Announcement

2023-02-28 Thread Seymour J Metz
than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 9:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Big z/O

Re: Big z/OS Preview Announcement

2023-02-28 Thread Seymour J Metz
We’re sorry! The page you're looking for may have been moved or deleted. Start a new search on ibm.com or visit one of the popular sites shown below. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Lionel B. Dyck Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 9:38

Re: Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx - again (Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-02-28 Thread Seymour J Metz
C0%7C638131919648698898%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=2ZWUupm87bZlSWwsZ4Oc3Sq1APmiuCHDYQg4IIauddQ%3D=0> [4] Alan Kay: <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-02-28 Thread Seymour J Metz
Read it how? I would expect vastly different timings depending on the answer. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of David Crayford [dcrayf...@gmail.com] Sent

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-02-28 Thread Seymour J Metz
That would be great. CPAN is the main reason that I use Perl and CTAN makes (La)TeX much more useful. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Jay Maynard

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-02-28 Thread Seymour J Metz
, or was it classic Rexx? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of David Crayford [dcrayf...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 7:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-02-28 Thread Seymour J Metz
as a little girl, Who had a little curl, Right in the middle of her forehead. When she was good, She was very good indeed, But when she was bad she was horrid. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 __

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-02-28 Thread Seymour J Metz
extending REXX for CMS and TSO to be easy, although admittedly assembler is mothers' milk to me and I didn't have to deal with LE issues. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-02-28 Thread Seymour J Metz
RECFM=VB unless the compilers won't support it. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of David Crayford [dcrayf...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 12

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-02-28 Thread Seymour J Metz
BPAM? Record access to binary files, where LF has no special significance? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of David Crayford [dcrayf...@gmail.com] Sent

Re: Load module/program object

2023-02-28 Thread Seymour J Metz
Why? That will only list the directory information, while [A|I]MBLIST LISTIDR will give the IDR data as well. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Mike

Re: Cant SPKA to PSW Key 4

2023-02-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
To expand on that, never throw out debug scaffolding after you go production; keep the test cases and AIF out anything that you want to disable rather than deleting it. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe

Re: How long for an experiened z/OS sysprog to come up to speed on a new environment?

2023-02-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
at the joints. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Leonard D Woren [ibm-main...@ldworen.net] Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2023 9:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Cant SPKA to PSW Key 4

2023-02-25 Thread Seymour J Metz
The S0C1 is almost certainly a bug in TESTAUTH, not in his code, and I wouldn't expect him to track down the bug in TEST, nor is it his responsibility. If he's not already licensed, think of this as a marketing opportunity. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: zOSMF

2023-02-25 Thread Seymour J Metz
As long as the network people allow it, NFS is the best solution for a lot of things. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Neil O'Connor [ver.z

Re: Cant SPKA to PSW Key 4

2023-02-23 Thread Seymour J Metz
This sounds like a problem with TEST. Have you tried a different debugger? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Joseph Reichman Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2023 9:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Cant SPKA to PSW Key 4 Hi I

Re: Paddle temporary fix?

2023-02-23 Thread Seymour J Metz
That link is for buttons. I'm looking for material on the paddle that Robert Rannie carried as a symbol of the OS/360 project and which he repaired after an IBM rep broke it. The repair became known as a Paddle Temporary fix (PTYF). -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Paddle temporary fix?

2023-02-23 Thread Seymour J Metz
Does anybody remember the SHARE and players for the "Paddle Temporary Fix" of Robert Ranie's paddle, and is there an online description? Thanks. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 -- Fo

Re: Sam Golob articles are now directly online

2023-02-23 Thread Seymour J Metz
They are already available as XMI files. The point of the individual files is to allow them to be viewed from a web file. The motivation for that was the need to cite therm for, e.g., wiki. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From

Re: How long for an experiened z/OS sysprog to come up to speed on a new environment?

2023-02-22 Thread Seymour J Metz
> the assumption that soneone starting work > at a new site could expect to bring their > own tools with them, with impunity. I can, because I ask for permission. Doing it when you know it's not allowed, OTOH, is, shall we say, ill considered. From: IBM

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