Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-29 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
The old system would disable the dial if no coin was deposited, however, the hook switch (rest) would still pulse the line. When the handset was lifted a resistance was put across the line allowing current to flow. At this point the line would supply dial tone and listen for dial pulses. The stro

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 13:34:04 -0500, Bob Bridges wrote: >That's a new one on me. How did tapping instead of dialing save you the >fourpence? I'd have thought that whatever allowed the call to go through a) >didn't know the difference between tapping and dialing, and b) wouldn't go >without bei

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-29 Thread Bob Bridges
That's a new one on me. How did tapping instead of dialing save you the fourpence? I'd have thought that whatever allowed the call to go through a) didn't know the difference between tapping and dialing, and b) wouldn't go without being paid. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 3

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
sage -- > From: "Mitch Mccluhan" <005d889cebf0-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu > Sent: 28-Feb-20 12:05:35 > Subject: Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as > placeholder] > > > Boomer? > > > >

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Seymour J Metz
List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Doug [d...@bkassociates.net] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 12:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder] Boomers code better anyway. Doug Fuerst 718.921.2620 (O) 917

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Seymour J Metz
Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder] On Feb 28, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: > > Guys, on the matter of French spacing (as with the Oxford comma) neither side > can legitimately argue that the debate is over. It's just not true that th

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Seymour J Metz
Gilmartin [000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 2:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder] On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 18:43:11 +, Pew, Curtis G wrote: >... >I learned th

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Seymour J Metz
erv.ua.edu] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 2:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder] On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 18:43:11 +, Pew, Curtis G wrote: >... >I learned the two-space rule when I started typing on my

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 14:53:36 -0500, Bob Bridges wrote: > >And I remember first discovering by experiment that all a rotary phone does is >put a counted number of clicks onto the line - and that I could "dial" a >number equally well by just tapping on the receiver to simulate the clicks. >... >

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Bob Bridges
I'm just barely old enough to remember that my childhood telephone number was like that, something like "Barrymore 7-1234" where "Barrymore" indicated the first two numbers of the exchange. Long gone, that convention. And I remember first discovering by experiment that all a rotary phone does i

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Tom Brennan
Maybe my problem is hereditary! My mom in La Mirada, California still has a working rotary dial phone hanging on the wall. I believe it doesn't even belong to her - they probably add a few dollars to the bill for rent. Printed in the center of the dial is the phone number, "LA-1 " which

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 13:12:53 -0600, Mike Schwab wrote: >Well, how about a rotary dial cell phone? >https://gizmodo.com/someone-built-a-distraction-free-cellphone-with-a-worki-1841636089 > There are limitations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=updE5LVe6tg -- gil -

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Mike Schwab
gt; To: IBM-MAIN > > Sent: Fri, Feb 28, 2020 9:49 am > > Subject: Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as > > placeholder] > > > > Boomer :) > > > > On 2/28/2020 7:40 AM, Mitch Mccluhan wrote: > >>I VOTE FOR 2 SP

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 18:43:11 +, Pew, Curtis G wrote: >... >I learned the two-space rule when I started typing on my mom’s Selectric back >in the 70s, but I’ve gotten out of the habit now that word processors usually >reformat my input in any case. > Vim is an idiot. It prefers: Dr.

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Mike Schwab
---Original Message- > > From: Joel C. Ewing > > To: IBM-MAIN > > Sent: Fri, Feb 28, 2020 9:26 am > > Subject: Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as > > placeholder] > > > > This is a sentence ending with one space. This is

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Bob Bridges
Is it, really? I'm usually a good speller, but I guess I've been doing that one wrong since I first read "The Hobbit". --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* It's far more impressive when others discover your good qualities without your help. */ -Original Message

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Feb 28, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: > > Guys, on the matter of French spacing (as with the Oxford comma) neither side > can legitimately argue that the debate is over. It's just not true that the > consensus has established "the rule"; you'll find, rather, a significant body > of

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Bob Bridges
Guys, on the matter of French spacing (as with the Oxford comma) neither side can legitimately argue that the debate is over. It's just not true that the consensus has established "the rule"; you'll find, rather, a significant body of thought on both sides. I've had to settle back and agree to

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Bob Bridges
Baby-boomer, I presume he means. Born during the '50s, mostly. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Westheimer's Discovery: A couple of months in the laboratory can save a couple of hours in the library. -Frank H Westheimer, chemistry professor (1912- ) */ -Origi

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Tom Brennan
-Original Message- From: Tom Brennan To: IBM-MAIN Sent: Fri, Feb 28, 2020 9:49 am Subject: Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder] Boomer :) On 2/28/2020 7:40 AM, Mitch Mccluhan wrote:   I VOTE FOR 2 SPACES!!!  Is that loud enough?  It has ALWA

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Doug
ter periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder] Boomer? -Original Message- From: Tom Brennan To: IBM-MAIN Sent: Fri, Feb 28, 2020 9:49 am Subject: Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder] Boomer :) On 2/28/2020 7:40 AM, Mitch Mccl

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Mitch Mccluhan
Boomer? -Original Message- From: Tom Brennan To: IBM-MAIN Sent: Fri, Feb 28, 2020 9:49 am Subject: Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder] Boomer :) On 2/28/2020 7:40 AM, Mitch Mccluhan wrote: >  I VOTE FOR 2 SPACES!!!  Is that loud eno

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Tom Brennan
Boomer :) On 2/28/2020 7:40 AM, Mitch Mccluhan wrote: I VOTE FOR 2 SPACES!!!  Is that loud enough?  It has ALWAYS made reading, easier. Mitch -Original Message- From: Joel C. Ewing To: IBM-MAIN Sent: Fri, Feb 28, 2020 9:26 am Subject: Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Mitch Mccluhan
I VOTE FOR 2 SPACES!!!  Is that loud enough?  It has ALWAYS made reading, easier. Mitch -Original Message- From: Joel C. Ewing To: IBM-MAIN Sent: Fri, Feb 28, 2020 9:26 am Subject: Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder] This is a sentence

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Joel C. Ewing
This is a sentence ending with one space. This is a sentence ending with two spaces.  My email client is supposedly using a proportional, variable width font, and the typical smaller width used for a space character tends to make sentences merge together visually when only a single space is use

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Joe Monk
The rule now is 1 space after a period. Two spaces after a period was the rule on a typewriter, because the fonts weren't proportional, they were monospace. This led to uneven spacing of words on paper, so two spaces was the rule. Nowadays, on a computer, the fonts are proportional. For instance

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-27 Thread Mike Schwab
Vs e e cummings. https://cummingsatsilverlake.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/cummingscartoon.jpg On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 9:55 PM David Spiegel wrote: > > *JRR Tolkien > > > > On 2020-02-27 22:43, Bob Bridges wrote: > > I think most people spell that without any spaces at all, ie "i.e.". Also > >

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-27 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
As a Yorkshireman, two spaces is a waste of paper :) Then there's the tale of the Scotsman and the pins in an early stock control system. On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 4:01 PM zMan wrote: > It's considered "old" because it's how people were taught to type on > typewriters, so the theory is "If you do

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-27 Thread zMan
It's considered "old" because it's how people were taught to type on typewriters, so the theory is "If you do this, you learned back when people learned on typewriters, which makes you old". In any case, it's not considered standard any more: style guides eschew it. On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 10:44 P

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-27 Thread David Spiegel
*JRR Tolkien On 2020-02-27 22:43, Bob Bridges wrote: I think most people spell that without any spaces at all, ie "i.e.". Also "e.g.". Me, I eschew periods in abbreviations that are common enough; "ie", "eg", "Mr", "Dr", "JRR Tolkein" and so on. I add them to my dictionary so spell-check

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-27 Thread Bob Bridges
I think most people spell that without any spaces at all, ie "i.e.". Also "e.g.". Me, I eschew periods in abbreviations that are common enough; "ie", "eg", "Mr", "Dr", "JRR Tolkein" and so on. I add them to my dictionary so spell-check doesn't get annoyed. (Spell-check always believes me, sm

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-27 Thread Mike Schwab
Single space after a period if not end of sentence. I. E. abbreviations. On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 2:59 PM Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 15:48:44 -0500, Steve Smith wrote: > > >Thanks for another reminder I'm "really old" :-). The ru

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 15:48:44 -0500, Steve Smith wrote: >Thanks for another reminder I'm "really old" :-). The rule, btw, is two >spaces at the end of a sentence. And I think it makes at least as much >sense for proportional fonts as mono. You can (and I do) have Word check >to make sure they're

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-27 Thread Steve Smith
Thanks for another reminder I'm "really old" :-). The rule, btw, is two spaces at the end of a sentence. And I think it makes at least as much sense for proportional fonts as mono. You can (and I do) have Word check to make sure they're always there... sas ... > > > P.S. I've heard that you

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
metz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Farley, Peter x23353 [peter.far...@broadridge.com] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 1:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-27 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
(ROFLOL) I resemble that remark! Two spaces after every period that ends a sentence was the ironclad rule they taught us in high school typing class on those old manual typewriters, and it still makes sense today! Two spaces after periods makes paragraphs typed in the monospace fonts (yay for