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> Many years ago when Converting a DDA system from Burroughs to IBM,
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Many years ago when Converting a DDA
Many years ago when Converting a DDA system from Burroughs to IBM, Burroughs
packed fields had the annoying habit of putting the sign at the beginning of
the fieldinstead of the end of the field like IBM.
Made for pages and pages of "Move with Offsets" in the Assembler
programsCobol
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On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 16:41:40 -0300, Clark Morris wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 10:28:05 -0500, John McKown wrote:
>I'm having a discussion on another,
>gaming, forum where one person insists that I simply can't be doing what I
>have been for about a month. Because I'm using a tool which "can't do
>that".
When my daughter was in high school she wrote a
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 16:41:40 -0300, Clark Morris wrote:
>How would the WFM (Work Flow Manager IIRC) for the Burroughs B500 and
>successor compare with IBM z/OS JCL and with VSE JCL. How does z/OS
>JCL compare with VSE JCL? My memories of DOS360 JCL probably are
>irrelevant.
I worked on a
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 10:19 AM Seymour J Metz wrote:
> It wouldn't help; lots of people don't know what they platform that they
> are running on can do, much less other platforms. If I had $1 for every
> time somebody told me that, e.g., ISPF, couldn't do that I'd been doing for
> decades ...
Like I said, I was using cards when I last worked on VSE, so it's been a little
while... ;)
I'll be curious to hear whats changed too
Dana
On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 09:15:57 -0400, Tony Thigpen wrote:
>I wish those of you not current on VSE would remember that we have had
>just as many years to
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I wish those of you not current on VSE would
[Default] On 10 Jul 2018 06:16:08 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
t...@vse2pdf.com (Tony Thigpen) wrote:
>I wish those of you not current on VSE would remember that we have had
>just as many years to change things as z/OS has. Oh, wait, we have
>longer. DOS came out before what ever MVS was
W dniu 2018-07-10 o 15:15, Tony Thigpen pisze:
I wish those of you not current on VSE would remember that we have had
just as many years to change things as z/OS has. Oh, wait, we have
longer. DOS came out before what ever MVS was called back then.
z/VSE has a lot of things in the JCL that
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 8:16 AM Tony Thigpen wrote:
> I wish those of you not current on VSE would remember that we have had
> just as many years to change things as z/OS has. Oh, wait, we have
> longer. DOS came out before what ever MVS was called back then.
>
OS/360 -- either MFT or MVT.
I wish those of you not current on VSE would remember that we have had
just as many years to change things as z/OS has. Oh, wait, we have
longer. DOS came out before what ever MVS was called back then.
z/VSE has a lot of things in the JCL that z/OS has no equal to. I work
both areas and there
... And I may add that if VSE JCL was so good, it wouldn't have so many
private extensions (and I've seem some of them).
ITschak
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 2:37 PM Dana Mitchell wrote:
> My memories of VSE JCL are dated, and quite possbily incorrect with
> current VSE, but I recall that I felt it
My memories of VSE JCL are dated, and quite possbily incorrect with current
VSE, but I recall that I felt it was more complicated that MVS jcl. It had
more types of statements (although fewer parms per type), JOB, * $$ JOB,
UPSI, OPTION, LIBDEF, PAUSE, and EXEC statements. To describe a
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edja...@phoenixsoftware.com (Ed Jaffe) wrote:
>On 7/9/2018 8:09 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>> 1. I don't recall anybody on IBM-MAIN claims
[Default] On 9 Jul 2018 11:14:20 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
edja...@phoenixsoftware.com (Ed Jaffe) wrote:
>On 7/9/2018 8:09 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>> 1. I don't recall anybody on IBM-MAIN claims that JCL is good.
>
>Even Fred Brooks (who led the IBM team that invented JCL) calls it "the
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