On 12/23/2015 2:53 PM, Tom Brennan wrote:
I'm somewhat involved in a distance test scheduled for next month, and I
believe it will be using the "Fiber Lab Flex" box on this page:
http://www.m2optics.com/fiber-test-boxes/multi-spool-enclosures
The main plan is to check 20km+ between two machines
istance.
Kees.
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We're not going to BLANKET recommen
W dniu 2015-12-23 o 10:42, Martin Packer pisze:
And did I get the right name, Kees?
It's just "distance in the suitcase". :-)
It is NOT an electronic device, it is PURE FIBRE OPTIC CABLE.
Of course you can stack several suitcases to get desired distance.
Note - welding or connectors can be subs
In
<874b151289704e46a874bf2ae6fdd8d1310d6...@kl126r4b.cs.ad.klmcorp.net>,
on 12/23/2015
at 03:18 PM, "Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM"
said:
>I was not asking for all the possibilities on all possible platforms,
>I was trying to ensure that it was readable and understandable on
>each platform that
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Skip Robinson wrote:
> I made a lame assumption based on 20 years of parallel sysplex. Our
> sysplexes have always consisted of boxes a few meters apart. I have (rather
> unkindly) scoffed at suggestions that we build a single sysplex between our
> data centers 100
In , on 12/22/2015
at 11:59 PM, "Robert A. Rosenberg" said:
>Via Email just go UTF-8. The same for Web Pages or just use the
>Unicode codepoint (µ) or µ.
Using µ for µ is appropriate for web pages, but not for text in
e-mail. HTML in e-mail is the sin for which there is no forgiveness,
altho
(Seymour J.)
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In , on 12/22/2015
at 11:54 PM, "Robert A. Rosenberg" said:
>On a Mac it is Option-m.
On a PC there are multiple keyboard layouts. On OS/2 with the US
In , on 12/22/2015
at 11:54 PM, "Robert A. Rosenberg" said:
>On a Mac it is Option-m.
On a PC there are multiple keyboard layouts. On OS/2 with the US
International layout, Right-Alt-M gets µ. Depending on the layout R.S.
is using, it may or may not be easy. I wouldn't consider Alt-ddd to be
In <5679d5c0.3090...@bremultibank.com.pl>, on 12/22/2015
at 11:59 PM, "R.S." said:
>It is kind for recipients to use "lowest common denominator"
The least common denominator is ASCII, but as long as you have the
right MIME header fields pretty much everybody can read the ISO 8859-*
pages. Whe
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From: Skip Robinson
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Date: 22/12/2015 23:59
Subject: Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing
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I made
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I don't think the cable reel has a fancy name. It just delivers you distance.
Besides that, there are devices that measure the quality of the cable
connection, like number and distance of welds and their delays, attenuation in
the fibe
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The 'fiber-suitecase' is nothing more than a cable reel with 10 or 20 km
of fiber. You plug this in your fiber configuration and start mea
Martin Packer wrote:
>And I also hear of a reflectometer for measuring signalling latency - to
>independently confirm what the Infiniband / ICA-SR cards are saying.
Or this thing? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_time-domain_reflectometer
PS: of course I never handled it or observed someon
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The 'fiber-suitecase' is nothing more than a cable reel with 10 or 20 km
of fiber. You plug this in your fiber configuration and start measurements
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Skip, I'd share your scepticism about 100+ km apart. I don't know of
anybody doing anything remotely stressful in CF terms over th
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Date: 22/12/2015 23:59
Subject: Re: Coupli
At 03:58 -0600 on 12/22/2015, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote about Re:
[Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing:
Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote:
Yes, u as a replacement of the greek letter mu, used to indicate
the micro prefix, where the greek letter cannot be used.
Many thanks. Much
At 23:59 +0100 on 12/22/2015, R.S. wrote about Re: [Bulk] Re:
Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing:
I have no problems with viewing mu letter (it's much harder to type
it), but I can imagine others still may have ones.
HARD TO TYPE? On a Mac it is Option-m. On a Windows machine, there
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W dniu 2015-12-22 o 21:58, Mike Schwab pisze:
UTF-8 includes them all. But UTF-EBCDIC is only suggested
transformations, not storage.
Compatibility.
It is kind for recipients to use "lowest common denominator" instead of
"my standard is the best one". I have no problems with viewing mu letter
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 2:39 PM, R.S. wrote:
> W dniu 2015-12-22 o 21:13, Paul Gilmartin pisze:
>>
>> On 2015-12-22 11:15, R.S. wrote:
>>>
>>> It would be better to define usec at the first occurence.
>>> Or use full name: 'microsecond'.
>>> BTW: 'us' seems to be more cryptic, while it's more corr
W dniu 2015-12-22 o 21:13, Paul Gilmartin pisze:
On 2015-12-22 11:15, R.S. wrote:
It would be better to define usec at the first occurence.
Or use full name: 'microsecond'.
BTW: 'us' seems to be more cryptic, while it's more correct than usec.
what about "μs"
That's the best, the most accurate
On 2015-12-22 11:15, R.S. wrote:
> It would be better to define usec at the first occurence.
> Or use full name: 'microsecond'.
> BTW: 'us' seems to be more cryptic, while it's more correct than usec.
>
what about "μs"
-- gil
--
It would be better to define usec at the first occurence.
Or use full name: 'microsecond'.
BTW: 'us' seems to be more cryptic, while it's more correct than usec.
--
Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland
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Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku
przeznaczone wyłączni
In
<2623328940257590.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu>,
on 12/22/2015
at 03:15 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht
said:
>First time I see 'usecs' here [1] on IBM-MAIM.
I've never seen usec or Ásec[1] on IBM-MAIM. I have, however, seen
them on IBM-MAIN.
[1] That should come out µsec
--
versions.
Kees.
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Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote:
>Yes, u as a replacement of the greek letter mu, used to indicate the micro
>prefix, where the greek letter cannot be used.
Many thanks. Much appreciated. I agree it can be somewhat troublesome to send
Greek and Russian (or Japanese) characters via e-mail or
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Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote:
>One crucial parameter: at what distance are the CFs?
Distance is indeed important.
>... 5 usecs ... 150 usecs ...
First time I see 'usecs' here [1] on
Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote:
>One crucial parameter: at what distance are the CFs?
Distance is indeed important.
>... 5 usecs ... 150 usecs ...
First time I see 'usecs' here [1] on IBM-MAIM. After looking in Wikipedia, I
want to know - is this microseconds? ( SI unit of time equal to o
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We're not going to BLANKET recommend System-Managed Duplexing for
high-volume, high stringency structures such as LOCK1. SCA has little
tr
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From: "Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM"
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date: 22/12/2015 07:39
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing
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Of course 'it depends'.
At least on the d
5 20:32
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Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing
I'm talking from experience. The two hours-long CEC failures we had--most
recently in the fall of 2014--took down all CICS and DB2 applications as well
as three ICFs on the box that failed. Th
ij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 11:35 PM
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>
> Your last statement is far too general in my opinion. SMCFSD is not free:
> besides
> memory, which indeed is cheap
Just to clarify a few points from this thread:
The CFRM policy should specify INITSIZE for a structure only when that
structure supports alter. It's not meaningful otherwise.
The reason for the recommendation that SIZE should never be more than 1.5 - 2
times INITSIZE is that when the CF initia
Skip Robinson
Sent: 19 December, 2015 5:57
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Subject: Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing
Wow, I feel so ancient. In the History of the World Part II, there are two
kinds of duplexing. The late comer is System Managed Duplexing, which is
provided by z/OS - XCF - XES
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
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The increases recommended by the CF Sizer is marginal. Our structures in
production are
0s. Waiting on CF structure response
> > was horrific as compared to the speed of the z990 processor response.
> >
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Thank y
recht
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 7:55 AM
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> Subject: Re: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing
>
> Richards, Robert B. wrote:
>
> >The last thing you want is for your CFs to be slower than the CPs.
> >BTDTGTS
>
> Ouch. Could
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Richards, Robert B. wrote:
>The last thing you want is for your CFs to be slower than the CPs.
>BTDTGTS
Ouch. Could you be k
Richards, Robert B. wrote:
>The last thing you want is for your CFs to be slower than the CPs. BTDTGTS
Ouch. Could you be kind to tell us about it? Are there any manuals stating that
trouble? Any configuration changes to avoid? Or is it about the sizes or
quantity of LPARs involved?
TIA!
Gr
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
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Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 4:03 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing
Hello,
I am in the middle of attempting to go from internal to external CFs. I ran the
sizer tool and have
> 1) Should INITSIZE and MINSIZE always be specified?
I have always specified both, and I have always made them equal. I had some
unpleasant surprises when MINSIZE was smaller than INITSIZE. And I have always
set INITSIZE to half of SIZE.
> 2) Are all structures 'eligible' to be defined with the
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Sent: 17 December, 2015 22:03
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Subject: Coupling Facility Structure Re-sizing
Hello,
I am in the middle of attempting to go from internal to external CFs. I ran
phil yogendran wrote:
>I am in the middle of attempting to go from internal to external CFs. I ran
>the sizer tool and have the info for the new sizes. However, the INITSIZE and
>MINSIZE values have me challenged. For most structures, the current
>allocation doesn't specify a value for either
Hello,
I am in the middle of attempting to go from internal to external CFs. I ran
the sizer tool and have the info for the new sizes. However, the INITSIZE
and MINSIZE values have me challenged.
For most structures, the current allocation doesn't specify a value for
either parameter or the speci
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