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pipe listpds 'your.pds' | cons | chop 3 | insert /delete 'your.pds' / | tso
| cons
OREXXMan
JCL is the buggy whip of 21st century computing. Sta
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On 7/11/2018 7:04 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
> I originally recommen
On 7/11/2018 7:04 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
I originally recommended PDSCLEAN to my colleague who was doing the migration.
Then realized that we don't have PDSCLEAN here; I was flashing back to my
previous shop.
Your previous shop?! How long ago was that? When we worked together back
in
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You might try using INFILE and specify a DD with DISP=SHR
Or got cbttape.org and download PDSCLEAN - works great for PDS and PDS/E
datasets
Lizette
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>>but I'm curious if there's some additional keyword that will ignore
>>the
SHR enqueues. I have not found anything.
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 10:43:42 -0700, Sri h Kolusu wrote:
but I'm curious if there's some additional keyw
pipe listpds 'your.pds' | cons | chop 3 | insert /delete 'your.pds' / | tso
| cons
OREXXMan
JCL is the buggy whip of 21st century computing. Stabilize it.
Put Pipelines in the z/OS base. Would you rather process data one
character at a time (Unix/C style), or one record at a time?
IBM has been
On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 14:59:15 -0400, Hobart Spitz wrote:
>You're in TSO. Add this line, or equivalent, before the DELETE.
>
>listd 'your.pds' mem
>
What about the TOCTTOU hazard?
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You're in TSO. Add this line, or equivalent, before the DELETE.
listd 'your.pds' mem
OREXXMan
JCL is the buggy whip of 21st century computing. Stabilize it.
Put Pipelines in the z/OS base. Would you rather process data one
character at a time (Unix/C style), or one record at a time?
IBM has
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 10:43:42 -0700, Sri h Kolusu wrote:
>>>but I'm curious if there's some additional keyword that will ignore the
>SHR enqueues. I have not found anything.
>
>Skip,
>
>You need to use FILE keyword on IDCAMS delete like shown below
>
>//DELALL EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
>//SYSPRINT DD
>>but I'm curious if there's some additional keyword that will ignore the
SHR enqueues. I have not found anything.
Skip,
You need to use FILE keyword on IDCAMS delete like shown below
//DELALL EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//PDS DD DISP=SHR,DSN=Your.PDS
//SYSINDD *
DELETE
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> While installing a new version of the PDS command-one that works on z/OS 2.3
> as previously discussed here-we need to empty existing libraries in order to
> refill them with new members. Without
While installing a new version of the PDS command-one that works on z/OS 2.3 as
previously discussed here-we need to empty existing libraries in order to
refill them with new members. Without a working PDS command, we had to find a
different way to accomplish FIXPDS RESETDIR.
I finally
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> Yes DFSORT does allow
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>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 7:27 AM
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>> Yes DFSORT does allow comments.
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>Considering how well this is documented in the Application Programming
>Guide, your forbearance
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On 2015-11-19 15:04, R.S. wrot
Peter Hunkeler wrote:
>>(Had you come to SHARE, you might have known that--hint, hint. ;-)
>Re: hint, hint, John, would you find some time to convince our upper level
>management of many companies of the value of SHARE, etc?
Hint, hint - the rarity of money beats the value of SHARE by a full
>(Had you come to SHARE, you might have known that--hint, hint. ;-)
Re: hint, hint, John, would you find some time to convince our upper level
management of many companies of the value of SHARE, etc?
Sorry, could not resist.
--
Peter Hunkeler
For the curious, IDCAMS does indeed use STOW (with I) to delete all the
members of a PDS or PDSE. This is not only fast, but it eliminates any
need to compress a PDS afterward. (Had you come to SHARE, you might have
known that--hint, hint. ;-)
Also, this function has been available since z/OS
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 08:11:08 -0700, Sri h Kolusu wrote:
>>>I looked at that. It builds a list of IDCAMS commands to delete the
>members one-by-one.
>
>Well the deletion of all members of a PDS DFSORT trick is written when
>IDCAMS did not support the Wild card deletion function on PDS members.
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 08:11:08 -0700, Sri h Kolusu wrote:
Does it at least sort the list in descending order?
>
>Descending order of what? member names or Size? Why exactly do you need to
>sort the list ? Do you think it would make a difference to the directory
>blocks?
Member names. The
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 06:58:42 -0500, John Eells wrote:
>For the curious, IDCAMS does indeed use STOW (with I) to delete all the
>members of a PDS or PDSE. This is not only fast, but it eliminates any
>need to compress a PDS afterward. (Had you come to SHARE, you might have
>known that--hint, hint.
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> When better tec
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>> When better techniques become available, perhaps the inferior ones
Or, more recent versions of IDCAMS.
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Can also be accomplished with PDS[85
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I have installed the CBTTAPE.ORG utility PDSCLEAN for both PDS and PDSE
datasets
On 2015-11-19 15:04, R.S. wrote:
> W dniu 2015-11-19 o 22:42, John Mattson pisze:
>> Someone was asking about deleting all members of a pds. I just noticed
>> that DFSort has a bunch of "samples" one of which includes how to use
>> ICETOOL to delete all members of
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>
>On 2015-11-19 14:54, Ed Finnell wrote:
>> File 182 on CBT tape contains PDS command. It's a great tool. Can delete or
>> delete by mask add space, copy, merge and fix. The commercial version is
>> Startools from
Someone was asking about deleting all members of a pds. I just noticed
that DFSort has a bunch of "samples" one of which includes how to use
ICETOOL to delete all members of a PDS. Hope this helps. Lots of other
neat things in here too.
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=is
...@gmail.com writes:
Someone was asking about deleting all members of a pds. I just noticed
that DFSort has a bunch of "samples" one of which includes how to use
ICETOOL to delete all members of a PDS. Hope this helps. Lots of other
neat things in
, John Mattson <johnmattson...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Someone was asking about deleting all members of a pds. I just noticed
> that DFSort has a bunch of "samples" one of which includes how to use
> ICETOOL to delete all members of a PDS. Hope this helps. Lots of other
I
I believe (or hope) PDS uses that nowadays, since its older technique,
basically zapping the directory, didn't work for PDSE.
> In a message dated 11/19/2015 3:43:17 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> johnmattson...@gmail.com writes:
>
> Someone was asking about deleting all members o
W dniu 2015-11-19 o 22:42, John Mattson pisze:
Someone was asking about deleting all members of a pds. I just noticed
that DFSort has a bunch of "samples" one of which includes how to use
ICETOOL to delete all members of a PDS. Hope this helps. Lots of other
neat things in here
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>I looked at that. It builds a list of IDCAMS commands to delete the members
>one-by-one.
Obsolete by now.
> Does IDCAMS DELETE DATA.SET.NAME(*)
Yes, it is documented "If you specify the entryname in the format of a
partition data set, pdsname(*), the command deletes
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