Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-24 Thread Seymour J Metz
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Peter Relson [rel...@us.ibm.com] Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 8:54 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage And of course page-fixing a buffer cannot be an input requirement for any service that supports unauthorized callers

Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-24 Thread Joseph Reichman
That was my thinking exactly FIXED=USER on the DCBE fixed that problem but what about BSAM where everything is 24 bits don’t remember this issue On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 8:54 AM Peter Relson wrote: > And of course page-fixing a buffer cannot be an input requirement for any > service that

Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-24 Thread Peter Relson
And of course page-fixing a buffer cannot be an input requirement for any service that supports unauthorized callers because those callers do not have access to page-fix functionality (either by subpool choice or by the services that do it). Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design

Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-23 Thread Michael Stein
On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 04:16:10PM -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: > On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 at 08:57, Joseph Reichman wrote: > > > STORAGE OBTAIN,LENGTH=(R0),ADDR=(R7),LOC=(31,64),SP=233 > > Does BSAM (or EXCP for that matter) support above-the-bar real storage > for I/O operations? Format-2

Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-23 Thread Seymour J Metz
23, 2023 4:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 at 08:57, Joseph Reichman wrote: > STORAGE OBTAIN,LENGTH=(R0),ADDR=(R7),LOC=(31,64),SP=233 Does BSAM (or EXCP for that matter) support above-the-bar real stor

Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-23 Thread Seymour J Metz
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 10:03:50 -0400, Joseph Reichman wrote: >Seymour “respectfully ” that’s for QSAM in locate mode BSAM doesn’t have a >locate mode the user supplied the I/O area > My (very old) e

Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-23 Thread Tony Harminc
On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 at 08:57, Joseph Reichman wrote: > STORAGE OBTAIN,LENGTH=(R0),ADDR=(R7),LOC=(31,64),SP=233 Does BSAM (or EXCP for that matter) support above-the-bar real storage for I/O operations? Format-2 IDAWs or MIDAWs and all that? Tony H.

Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-23 Thread Joseph Reichman
I’m actually doing a presentation at work ( I hope Seymour will attend ) Most programs here are qsam locate mode But there are some BSAM All most all amode 24 rmode 24 > On Mar 23, 2023, at 1:43 PM, Paul Gilmartin > <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > On Thu, 23

Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 10:03:50 -0400, Joseph Reichman wrote: >Seymour “respectfully ” that’s for QSAM in locate mode BSAM doesn’t have a >locate mode the user supplied the I/O area > My (very old) experience with BSAM agreed with what Seymour says. Why are you trying to use BSAM. QSAM is

Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-23 Thread Joseph Reichman
Did listpsw at breakpoint was key 8 problem bit bit 15 was one Open ok Read ok and got IOAREA > On Mar 23, 2023, at 11:39 AM, Joseph Reichman wrote: > > You are absolutely right I’ll fix pronto > >>> On Mar 23, 2023, at 11:38 AM, Michael Stein wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at

Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-23 Thread Joseph Reichman
You are absolutely right I’ll fix pronto > On Mar 23, 2023, at 11:38 AM, Michael Stein wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 08:56:43AM -0400, Joseph Reichman wrote: >> Here is the code if you page down the email you will see "Here is the >> DCB//DECB/DCBE and exlst code" > > Another partial

Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-23 Thread Michael Stein
On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 08:56:43AM -0400, Joseph Reichman wrote: > Here is the code if you page down the email you will see "Here is the > DCB//DECB/DCBE and exlst code" Another partial source which ignores that you are authorized. When you are authorized (especially key zero/system

Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-23 Thread Joseph Reichman
n...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 10:26 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage > > So I’ll try using FIX=USER ? And ADDR=(1) > >> On Mar 23, 2023, at 10:22 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: >> &

Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-23 Thread Seymour J Metz
[reichman...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 10:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage So I’ll try using FIX=USER ? And ADDR=(1) > On Mar 23, 2023, at 10:22 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > FSVO QSAM. > > "FIXED=U

Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-23 Thread Seymour J Metz
] on behalf of Kirk Wolf [k...@wolf-associates.com] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 10:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage Is it documented by IBM that BSAM IO buffers must be in fixed storage? I've never seen it. Further, we have written

Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-23 Thread Kirk Wolf
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of > > Paul Gilmartin [042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] > > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 9:03 AM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >

Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-23 Thread Seymour J Metz
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Joseph Reichman [reichman...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 10:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage I put executable

Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-23 Thread Joseph Reichman
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of >> Paul Gilmartin [042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] >> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 9:03 AM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: Re: Doe

Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-23 Thread Seymour J Metz
h Reichman [reichman...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 10:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage Seymour “respectfully ” that’s for QSAM in locate mode BSAM doesn’t have a locate mode the user supplied the I/O area This snippet is

Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-23 Thread Joseph Reichman
ussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Joseph Reichman [reichman...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 8:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage Seymour Here is the code if you page down the email you will see "Here is th

Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-23 Thread Seymour J Metz
M-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Joseph Reichman [reichman...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 8:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage Seymour Here is the code if you page down the email you will see "Here is the DCB//DECB/DCB

Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-23 Thread Joseph Reichman
, March 23, 2023 9:03 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage > >> On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 12:31:36 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >> >> It is normal to obtaon buffers from subpool 0. It is not normal to specify >> DCBE options

Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-23 Thread Seymour J Metz
...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 9:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 12:31:36 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >It is normal to obtaon buffers from subpool 0. It is not normal to specify >DCBE options th

Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 12:31:36 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >It is normal to obtaon buffers from subpool 0. It is not normal to specify >DCBE options that you don't want' > I coded some BSAM long ago, 370 era. I never bothered with fixing pages. I assumed/was told the access method did that for

Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-23 Thread Joseph Reichman
AIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage It is normal to obtaon buffers from subpool 0. It is not normal to specify DCBE options that you don't want' Please include the relevant DCBE with code that you post. BTW, the DFSMSdfp documentation discusses what can be

Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-23 Thread Seymour J Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Joseph Reichman [reichman...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 7:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed

Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-23 Thread Joseph Reichman
Seems like this is the only way my read worked but it kind of doesn’t make sense I should be able to have the I/O area from subpool 0 pageable storage Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,