Re: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc

2018-12-26 Thread Dan D
Yes, ThruPut Manager (owned by Compuware Corp.) is available.

In JAL you can identify the PROCs being executed and where they came from.  You 
can also identify the input class and then direct the job to execute on 
whatever LPAR you choose.

That's one of the very many things that can be done with TM...check it out at 
the Compuware site.

Dan

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Re: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc

2018-12-18 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I wonder if the product ThruPut manager is still available, if so, via JAL (job 
action Language) the OP may be able to direct work based on this criteria 



Carmen Vitullo 

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From: "Wayne Bickerdike"  
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Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:38:41 PM 
Subject: Re: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc 

Now that the OP has clarified his requirement, my initial thought was that 
the PROC could be changed to simply re-submit a new job via INTRDR. This 
would direct the job to the required job class. 

PROCA - do what you do now 
PROCB - INTRDR submit to run in different class. 

On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 3:37 AM Jesse 1 Robinson  
wrote: 

> We historically use a combination of JES(2) exits to set JOBCLASS for a 
> whole host of reasons. PROC does not happen to be one, but with standard 
> documented exits, you can test for almost anything in one exit and 
> communicate with other exits to achieve the result you want. The great 
> Class Setter is probably Exit 6, which can take direction from other exits 
> to decide what class a job should run in. 
> 
> I'm not necessary recommending that a shop set off on an exit-writing 
> binge. In particular, in OP's case, I'm still puzzled as to what needs to 
> be accomplished. Just pointing out that the levers and buttons are probably 
> available to an ambitious coder. 
> 
> . 
> . 
> J.O.Skip Robinson 
> Southern California Edison Company 
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> SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 
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> 
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> Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 10:48 PM 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
> Subject: (External):Re: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc 
> 
> Peter, 
> 
> There is no way I know of to select or enforce a JOB class based on the 
> presence and usage of any particular PROC (instream or not). 
> 
> Your best bet may be to write a utility program that svans the DD's in the 
> job to see if it uses one of those product libraries and also retrieves to 
> JOB class via control block chasing. 
> 
> Then if the job class is not the one in which you want those 
> libraries/products to run, ABEND the job with a message to the programmers 
> to change the JOB CLASS to the required one and resubmit the job. 
> 
> Unless you have a product like JCLCHECK or JCLPREP which can scan JCL and 
> enforce shop standard JCL rules (like using the right JOB CLASS) I think 
> you are probably not going to be able to automate this requirement at all. 
> 
> There may be some JCL scanning tools on the CBT site that could possibly 
> help if you can't afford ISV products like JCLCHECK or JCLPREP. I haven't 
> investigated that area on CBT so I am not personally aware of any such 
> tools, but there may be some there. 
> 
> Is this desire to run zIIP-enabled software in a particular JOB CLASS just 
> a management request for no good technical reason, or are there real CPU 
> reporting or license-enforcement rules that specifying a particular job 
> class would make it easier to do or report? 
> 
> In other words, what problem does enforcing a particular job class for 
> zIIP-enabled software solve for you? 
> 
> Peter 
> 
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> Behalf Of Peter 
> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 2:51 AM 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
> Subject: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc 
> 
> Hi 
> 
> We have some job which runs with a default class B. 
> 
> We would like to redirect some of the Job which uses a particular instream 
> to use a different class. 
> 
> Is there a way to enforce the class selection while using a specific 
> instream proc ? 
> 
> I am seeing the manual on instream. Procedure override but I don't find 
> any reference on my requirement 
> 
> 
> Has anyone tried this similar and have a working solution ? 
> 
> Peter 
> 
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Re: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc

2018-12-18 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Now that the OP has clarified his requirement, my initial thought was that
the PROC could be changed to simply re-submit a new job via INTRDR. This
would direct the job to the required job class.

PROCA - do what you do now
PROCB - INTRDR submit to run in different class.

On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 3:37 AM Jesse 1 Robinson 
wrote:

> We historically use a combination of JES(2) exits to set JOBCLASS for a
> whole host of reasons. PROC does not happen to be one, but with standard
> documented exits, you can test for almost anything in one exit and
> communicate with other exits to achieve the result you want. The great
> Class Setter is probably Exit 6, which can take direction from other exits
> to decide what class a job should run in.
>
> I'm not necessary recommending that a shop set off on an exit-writing
> binge. In particular, in OP's case, I'm still puzzled as to what needs to
> be accomplished. Just pointing out that the levers and buttons are probably
> available to an ambitious coder.
>
> .
> .
> J.O.Skip Robinson
> Southern California Edison Company
> Electric Dragon Team Paddler
> SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
> 323-715-0595 Mobile
> 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW
> robin...@sce.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 10:48 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: (External):Re: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc
>
> Peter,
>
> There is no way I know of to select or enforce a JOB class based on the
> presence and usage of any particular PROC (instream or not).
>
> Your best bet may be to write a utility program that svans the DD's in the
> job to see if it uses one of those product libraries and also retrieves to
> JOB class via control block chasing.
>
> Then if the job class is not the one in which you want those
> libraries/products to run, ABEND the job with a message to the programmers
> to change the JOB CLASS to the required one and resubmit the job.
>
> Unless you have a product like JCLCHECK or JCLPREP which can scan JCL and
> enforce shop standard JCL rules (like using the right JOB CLASS) I think
> you are probably not going to be able to automate this requirement at all.
>
> There may be some JCL scanning tools on the  CBT site that could possibly
> help if you can't afford ISV products like JCLCHECK or JCLPREP.  I haven't
> investigated that area  on CBT so I am not personally aware of any such
> tools, but there may be some there.
>
> Is this desire to run zIIP-enabled software in a particular JOB CLASS just
> a management request for no good technical reason, or are there real CPU
> reporting or license-enforcement rules that specifying a particular job
> class would make it easier to do or report?
>
> In other words, what problem does enforcing a particular job class for
> zIIP-enabled software solve for you?
>
> Peter
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Peter
> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 2:51 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc
>
> Hi
>
> We have some job which runs with a default class B.
>
> We would like to redirect some of the Job which uses a particular instream
> to use a different class.
>
> Is there a way to enforce the class selection while using a specific
> instream proc ?
>
> I am seeing the manual on instream. Procedure override but I don't find
> any reference on my requirement
>
>
> Has anyone tried this similar and have a working solution ?
>
> Peter
>
>
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Re: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc

2018-12-18 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
We historically use a combination of JES(2) exits to set JOBCLASS for a whole 
host of reasons. PROC does not happen to be one, but with standard documented 
exits, you can test for almost anything in one exit and communicate with other 
exits to achieve the result you want. The great Class Setter is probably Exit 
6, which can take direction from other exits to decide what class a job should 
run in. 

I'm not necessary recommending that a shop set off on an exit-writing binge. In 
particular, in OP's case, I'm still puzzled as to what needs to be 
accomplished. Just pointing out that the levers and buttons are probably 
available to an ambitious coder. 

.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW
robin...@sce.com

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Of Farley, Peter x23353
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 10:48 PM
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Subject: (External):Re: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc

Peter,

There is no way I know of to select or enforce a JOB class based on the 
presence and usage of any particular PROC (instream or not).

Your best bet may be to write a utility program that svans the DD's in the job 
to see if it uses one of those product libraries and also retrieves to JOB 
class via control block chasing.

Then if the job class is not the one in which you want those libraries/products 
to run, ABEND the job with a message to the programmers to change the JOB CLASS 
to the required one and resubmit the job.

Unless you have a product like JCLCHECK or JCLPREP which can scan JCL and 
enforce shop standard JCL rules (like using the right JOB CLASS) I think you 
are probably not going to be able to automate this requirement at all.

There may be some JCL scanning tools on the  CBT site that could possibly help 
if you can't afford ISV products like JCLCHECK or JCLPREP.  I haven't 
investigated that area  on CBT so I am not personally aware of any such tools, 
but there may be some there.

Is this desire to run zIIP-enabled software in a particular JOB CLASS just a 
management request for no good technical reason, or are there real CPU 
reporting or license-enforcement rules that specifying a particular job class 
would make it easier to do or report?

In other words, what problem does enforcing a particular job class for 
zIIP-enabled software solve for you?

Peter

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Of Peter
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 2:51 AM
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Subject: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc

Hi

We have some job which runs with a default class B.

We would like to redirect some of the Job which uses a particular instream to 
use a different class.

Is there a way to enforce the class selection while using a specific instream 
proc ?

I am seeing the manual on instream. Procedure override but I don't find any 
reference on my requirement


Has anyone tried this similar and have a working solution ?

Peter


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Re: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc

2018-12-18 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
Peter,

Can you clarify why you like to do that?

Kees.

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> 
> That's right Wayne
> 
> On Tue 18 Dec, 2018, 4:50 AM Wayne Bickerdike  
> > I thought he wanted the job to be scheduled/rescheduled into a
> different
> > job class.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 7:33 AM Peter Bishop 
> wrote:
> >
> > > It's not clear what you are trying to do.
> > >
> > > Do you wish to override the output class used by a particular DDNAME
> in
> > an
> > > included procedure?
> > >
> > > If so, it should be simple, something like
> > >
> > > //p  PROC
> > > //  jcl here
> > > //p  PEND
> > > //stepname EXEC p
> > > //procstepname.ddname-whose-class-you-want-to-override   DD
> > > SYSOUT=whatever-class-you-want
> > >
> > > Test this, I just coded it from memory and it may have bugs.
> > >
> > > Of course, if this isn't what you are trying to do, please explain
> and
> > you
> > > may get your answer.
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > Peter
> > >
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Re: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc

2018-12-17 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Peter,

There is no way I know of to select or enforce a JOB class based on the 
presence and usage of any particular PROC (instream or not).

Your best bet may be to write a utility program that svans the DD's in the job 
to see if it uses one of those product libraries and also retrieves to JOB 
class via control block chasing.

Then if the job class is not the one in which you want those libraries/products 
to run, ABEND the job with a message to the programmers to change the JOB CLASS 
to the required one and resubmit the job.

Unless you have a product like JCLCHECK or JCLPREP which can scan JCL and 
enforce shop standard JCL rules (like using the right JOB CLASS) I think you 
are probably not going to be able to automate this requirement at all.

There may be some JCL scanning tools on the  CBT site that could possibly help 
if you can't afford ISV products like JCLCHECK or JCLPREP.  I haven't 
investigated that area  on CBT so I am not personally aware of any such tools, 
but there may be some there.

Is this desire to run zIIP-enabled software in a particular JOB CLASS just a 
management request for no good technical reason, or are there real CPU 
reporting or license-enforcement rules that specifying a particular job class 
would make it easier to do or report?

In other words, what problem does enforcing a particular job class for 
zIIP-enabled software solve for you?

Peter

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Subject: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc

Hi

We have some job which runs with a default class B.

We would like to redirect some of the Job which uses a particular instream
to use a different class.

Is there a way to enforce the class selection while using a specific
instream proc ?

I am seeing the manual on instream. Procedure override but I don't find any
reference on my requirement


Has anyone tried this similar and have a working solution ?

Peter

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Re: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc

2018-12-17 Thread Peter Bishop
Job class is usually part of the JOB statement, which can be set in the 
scheduler and other places.

Nothing to do with PROCs, instream or otherwise.

You can supply JOB statement keywords on the START command if that helps, but 
unfortunately not CLASS (ignored by the system here).

If you need more help, you will need to explain exactly what's not working.

cheers,
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Re: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc

2018-12-17 Thread Peter
That's right Wayne

On Tue 18 Dec, 2018, 4:50 AM Wayne Bickerdike  I thought he wanted the job to be scheduled/rescheduled into a different
> job class.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 7:33 AM Peter Bishop  wrote:
>
> > It's not clear what you are trying to do.
> >
> > Do you wish to override the output class used by a particular DDNAME in
> an
> > included procedure?
> >
> > If so, it should be simple, something like
> >
> > //p  PROC
> > //  jcl here
> > //p  PEND
> > //stepname EXEC p
> > //procstepname.ddname-whose-class-you-want-to-override   DD
> > SYSOUT=whatever-class-you-want
> >
> > Test this, I just coded it from memory and it may have bugs.
> >
> > Of course, if this isn't what you are trying to do, please explain and
> you
> > may get your answer.
> >
> > cheers,
> > Peter
> >
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Re: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc

2018-12-17 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I thought he wanted the job to be scheduled/rescheduled into a different
job class.




On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 7:33 AM Peter Bishop  wrote:

> It's not clear what you are trying to do.
>
> Do you wish to override the output class used by a particular DDNAME in an
> included procedure?
>
> If so, it should be simple, something like
>
> //p  PROC
> //  jcl here
> //p  PEND
> //stepname EXEC p
> //procstepname.ddname-whose-class-you-want-to-override   DD
> SYSOUT=whatever-class-you-want
>
> Test this, I just coded it from memory and it may have bugs.
>
> Of course, if this isn't what you are trying to do, please explain and you
> may get your answer.
>
> cheers,
> Peter
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Re: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc

2018-12-17 Thread Peter Bishop
It's not clear what you are trying to do.

Do you wish to override the output class used by a particular DDNAME in an 
included procedure?

If so, it should be simple, something like

//p  PROC
//  jcl here
//p  PEND
//stepname EXEC p 
//procstepname.ddname-whose-class-you-want-to-override   DD 
SYSOUT=whatever-class-you-want

Test this, I just coded it from memory and it may have bugs.

Of course, if this isn't what you are trying to do, please explain and you may 
get your answer.

cheers,
Peter

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Re: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc

2018-12-16 Thread Lizette Koehler
So how would you, as a human, determine whether a job should use Proc A or Proc 
B?

The logic in your tool would need to make the same decision.


So if the tool is building a job, and it reads the parameters to build the JCL. 
 How would it make a decision?

This would not be much different than a human building the JCL and having to 
make a decision on whether to use CLASS=A or CLASS=B


So if the tool can decide on which jobclass would be used, you still cannot 
restrict zIIP usage.  If the job uses - say SORT - and it is not in the zIIP 
class, there is still a possibility it will use a zIIP.


Lizette


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> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 7:44 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc
> 
> Lizette,
> 
> Basically those instream proc have some products libraries which uses ZIIP,
> just that I want a specific class to be used ..
> 
> So here CLASS is not ongoing the zIIP but just that I want a specific
> instream proc to run with a assigned CLASS
> 
> 

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Re: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc

2018-12-16 Thread Lizette Koehler
Since you asked about zIIP reporting and now zIIP restrictions, perhaps you can 
share what problem you are trying to resolve?

There are options available that might help you, but it is not clear what 
problem you are trying to solve.

So work pushed to a zIIP engine will reduce your costs overall.  So this is a 
good thing.

Not pushing work to a zIIP could increase your 4HR rolling average and increase 
your costs for software usage.

You have a generator for building batch jobs.  Not knowing how this is set up 
or works, it is difficult to say how to force a common job to a specific 
jobclass without knowing more details.

You do not say if you have tools like z/OSEM by Trident Software, or Easyexit 
by DTS Software, or other tools.

How would you identify in your tool a job that should use a zIIP Proc vs. a 
normal proc?


Here is the manual I use when setting up RMF reports

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.erbb500/toc.htm


If you do not have PROJECTCPU in SYS1.PARMLIB set to YES, this maybe something 
you would like to do

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieae200/spi.htm



PROJECTCPU=[YES | NO]
Specifies whether to activate or deactivate the projection of how work 
could be offloaded from regular CPs to special assist processors like the 
System z Application Assist Processor (zAAP) and the System z Integrated 
Information Processor (zIIP).
Note:

The PROJECTCPU parameter is not necessary if you can define a zIIP or 
zAAP as a reserved processor in the LPAR configuration. The PROJECTCPU 
parameter is provided for users of earlier processors on which defining a zIIP 
as a reserved processor is not supported when no zIIP is purchased for planning 
purposes.
If the installation requires ZIIP statistics but there is no ZIIP 
defined (reserved or actual) on the LPAR, then PROJECTCPU=YES is required 
regardless of hardware model.
Any work that is eligible for being offloaded to a special assist 
processor will be reported as Special_Processor_on_CP work. This information 
can be used to understand the benefit of adding a special processor into the 
configuration.

Values: YES or NO

Default Value: NO - projection will not be done, unless a special assist 
processor is configured to the system. In that case, the system will collect 
projection values.



In the ISPF-RMF function you can list your current settings

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.erbb500/erbb500345.htm

OPT OPT Settings report


Then you can also 

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.erbb500/ppr.htm


You can get zIIP time in various areas, Service, APPL, and other functions in 
RMF reporting.

It will all depend on what you are looking to generate report(s) on.



Hope this helps


Lizette


> -Original Message-
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> Lizette Koehler
> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 7:37 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc
> 
> I am wondering how you can enforce zIIP usage?
> 
> A zIIP engine, as far as I know, is chosen by z/OS based on interruptible SRB
> and work type.
> 
> I do not know of a way to say this CLASS or this JOB will use zIIP.
> 
> So how are you planning to do the assignment of a zIIP?
> 
> Lizette
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On
> > Behalf Of Peter
> > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 1:16 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc
> >
> > That particular instream proc invoke ziip .
> >
> > As the default job card is generated by the application for all the
> > others jobs too, but particularly to a instream proc we want to assign .
> >
> > The reason we want to control is that we want to limit the usage of
> > particular class and have a specific class to pick the zIIP invocation
> > instream proc
> >
> >
> > On Sun 16 Dec, 2018, 12:11 PM Binyamin Dissen
> >  > wrote:
> >
> > > As there is more one way to generate JCL, why would you want to
> > > control if a specified PROC is included instream?
> > >
> > > What is done in this instream procedure that you wish to control?
> > >
> > > On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 11:51:26 +0400 Peter  wrote:
> > >
> > > :>We have some job which runs with a default class B.
> > >
> > > :>We would like to redirect some of the Job which uses a particular
> > > instream :>to use a different class.
> > >
> > > :>Is there a way to enforce the class selection while using a
> > > specific :>instream proc ?
>

Re: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc

2018-12-16 Thread Peter
Lizette,

Basically those instream proc have some products libraries which uses ZIIP,
just that I want a specific class to be used ..

So here CLASS is not ongoing the zIIP but just that I want a specific
instream proc to run with a assigned CLASS


On Sun 16 Dec, 2018, 6:37 PM Lizette Koehler  I am wondering how you can enforce zIIP usage?
>
> A zIIP engine, as far as I know, is chosen by z/OS based on interruptible
> SRB and work type.
>
> I do not know of a way to say this CLASS or this JOB will use zIIP.
>
> So how are you planning to do the assignment of a zIIP?
>
> Lizette
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On
> Behalf Of
> > Peter
> > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 1:16 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc
> >
> > That particular instream proc invoke ziip .
> >
> > As the default job card is generated by the application for all the
> others
> > jobs too, but particularly to a instream proc we want to assign .
> >
> > The reason we want to control is that we want to limit the usage of
> > particular class and have a specific class to pick the zIIP invocation
> > instream proc
> >
> >
> > On Sun 16 Dec, 2018, 12:11 PM Binyamin Dissen <
> bdis...@dissensoftware.com
> > wrote:
> >
> > > As there is more one way to generate JCL, why would you want to
> > > control if a specified PROC is included instream?
> > >
> > > What is done in this instream procedure that you wish to control?
> > >
> > > On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 11:51:26 +0400 Peter  wrote:
> > >
> > > :>We have some job which runs with a default class B.
> > >
> > > :>We would like to redirect some of the Job which uses a particular
> > > instream :>to use a different class.
> > >
> > > :>Is there a way to enforce the class selection while using a specific
> > > :>instream proc ?
> > >
> > > :>I am seeing the manual on instream. Procedure override but I don't
> > > find any :>reference on my requirement
> > >
> > > :>Has anyone tried this similar and have a working solution ?
> > >
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> > >
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Re: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc

2018-12-16 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am wondering how you can enforce zIIP usage?

A zIIP engine, as far as I know, is chosen by z/OS based on interruptible SRB 
and work type.

I do not know of a way to say this CLASS or this JOB will use zIIP.

So how are you planning to do the assignment of a zIIP?

Lizette


> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of
> Peter
> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 1:16 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc
> 
> That particular instream proc invoke ziip .
> 
> As the default job card is generated by the application for all the others
> jobs too, but particularly to a instream proc we want to assign .
> 
> The reason we want to control is that we want to limit the usage of
> particular class and have a specific class to pick the zIIP invocation
> instream proc
> 
> 
> On Sun 16 Dec, 2018, 12:11 PM Binyamin Dissen  wrote:
> 
> > As there is more one way to generate JCL, why would you want to
> > control if a specified PROC is included instream?
> >
> > What is done in this instream procedure that you wish to control?
> >
> > On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 11:51:26 +0400 Peter  wrote:
> >
> > :>We have some job which runs with a default class B.
> >
> > :>We would like to redirect some of the Job which uses a particular
> > instream :>to use a different class.
> >
> > :>Is there a way to enforce the class selection while using a specific
> > :>instream proc ?
> >
> > :>I am seeing the manual on instream. Procedure override but I don't
> > find any :>reference on my requirement
> >
> > :>Has anyone tried this similar and have a working solution ?
> >
> > --
> > Binyamin Dissen 
> > http://www.dissensoftware.com
> >
> > Director, Dissen Software, Bar & Grill - Israel
> >
> >
> > Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me,
> > you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain.
> >
> > I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems,
> > especially those from irresponsible companies.
> >

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Re: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc

2018-12-16 Thread Peter
That particular instream proc invoke ziip .

As the default job card is generated by the application for all the others
jobs too, but particularly to a instream proc we want to assign .

The reason we want to control is that we want to limit the usage of
particular class and have a specific class to pick the zIIP invocation
instream proc


On Sun 16 Dec, 2018, 12:11 PM Binyamin Dissen  As there is more one way to generate JCL, why would you want to control if
> a
> specified PROC is included instream?
>
> What is done in this instream procedure that you wish to control?
>
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 11:51:26 +0400 Peter  wrote:
>
> :>We have some job which runs with a default class B.
>
> :>We would like to redirect some of the Job which uses a particular
> instream
> :>to use a different class.
>
> :>Is there a way to enforce the class selection while using a specific
> :>instream proc ?
>
> :>I am seeing the manual on instream. Procedure override but I don't find
> any
> :>reference on my requirement
>
> :>Has anyone tried this similar and have a working solution ?
>
> --
> Binyamin Dissen 
> http://www.dissensoftware.com
>
> Director, Dissen Software, Bar & Grill - Israel
>
>
> Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me,
> you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain.
>
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> especially those from irresponsible companies.
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Re: Enforcing CLASS in instream proc

2018-12-16 Thread Binyamin Dissen
As there is more one way to generate JCL, why would you want to control if a
specified PROC is included instream?

What is done in this instream procedure that you wish to control?

On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 11:51:26 +0400 Peter  wrote:

:>We have some job which runs with a default class B.

:>We would like to redirect some of the Job which uses a particular instream
:>to use a different class.

:>Is there a way to enforce the class selection while using a specific
:>instream proc ?

:>I am seeing the manual on instream. Procedure override but I don't find any
:>reference on my requirement

:>Has anyone tried this similar and have a working solution ?

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Enforcing CLASS in instream proc

2018-12-15 Thread Peter
Hi

We have some job which runs with a default class B.

We would like to redirect some of the Job which uses a particular instream
to use a different class.

Is there a way to enforce the class selection while using a specific
instream proc ?

I am seeing the manual on instream. Procedure override but I don't find any
reference on my requirement


Has anyone tried this similar and have a working solution ?

Peter

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