Re: Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370

2021-01-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
> I have added the full

No, it's missing the first decade. In fact, the pictured manual cover lists 
compilers that are not in the table.


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I have added the full IBM COBOL compiler version table on the IBM COBOL wiki 
page at 
https://secure-web.cisco.com/1x78Cl38jSaZo9L70czHtjh_5iZB1e-fObPkEHhox4FxpSdPuPMYpP1llCpdhCO1YOxPytRXmQ0Z2FHl6ZqCLmkwaw4oZjEF1lGkzz9j8cw7VdCIW3CPGw_7zUho43hMJRgUDL6-7mPPjEg7LdPvOVAfs43k5Db2dj8TMvBPUC36K-udx0BvywKAPuJjrMgWYygxyRRs_lQTnLcenw020gFbyu61vCQUvWkXAYm1r56WfBAfwrTczCnqP3bwuUlTWPhhsg7vGGPN0kOmqWom_urwDMrZj2dYy125Dm05Zr2bA4R0A10ZmXI8C1m73upzrD0h_aWXEsVxVVHHJK6sZSeewLoJYOND0763layP0RuAVe0qWpsBm1i5JbD37f-5JgGXopK-9EUQJmjXsGy-PmnAOXcDsj8bu01jUE9bSiPVvbblGkR_XZz7Hq06II9Li/https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FIBM_COBOL.

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Re: Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370

2021-01-13 Thread Dan Zhang
I have added the full IBM COBOL compiler version table on the IBM COBOL wiki 
page at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_COBOL.

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Re: Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370

2021-01-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
All of the 360S-xx-xxx numbers refer to components of OS/360. You can find some 
of the manuals at http://bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/360/os/cobol/. You can find 
various editions of the bibliography ay 
http://bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/360/bibliography/.

360S-CB-545 is also known as COBOL (U) and came out on one of the last OS/360 
releases.

5734-CB1 is versions 1 through 3


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>> entire history
>
>No, it's missing a decade.

>360S-C0-503 COBOL (E)
>
>360S-CB-524 COBOL (F)
>
>360S-CB-545 COBOL (U)
>
>5734-CB1 OS FULL AMERICAN NATIONAL STANDARD COBOL Versions 1-3  rth=20
>ime=20
>5734-CB2 OS FULL AMERICAN NATIONAL STANDARD COBOL Version 4, 5


Sam, this is good stuff!  I was looking for even older information and I found
a note about   1972   5734-CB2 ANS COBOL Version 4   but your list
fills in some more history!  I wish I could find dates, but those products are
not in our IBM databases anywmore ... I googled 5734-CB1 and found an IBM book
with this in the title:

IBM OS Full American National Standard COBOL.: Program Numbers:
Version 2, 360S-CB-545; Version 3, 5734-CB1;
Version 4, 5734-CB2 (compiler and Library) 5734-LM2 (library Only).

So, that fills in some more:

360S-CB-545 COBOL is ANS COBOL V2
5734-CB1 is ANS COBOL V3
5734-CB2 is ANS COBOL V4

Cheers,
TomR  >> COBOL is the Language of the Future! <<

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Re: Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370

2021-01-07 Thread Tom Ross
>> entire history
>
>No, it's missing a decade.

>360S-C0-503 COBOL (E)
>
>360S-CB-524 COBOL (F)
>
>360S-CB-545 COBOL (U)
>
>5734-CB1 OS FULL AMERICAN NATIONAL STANDARD COBOL Versions 1-3  rth=20
>ime=20
>5734-CB2 OS FULL AMERICAN NATIONAL STANDARD COBOL Version 4, 5


Sam, this is good stuff!  I was looking for even older information and I found
a note about   1972   5734-CB2 ANS COBOL Version 4   but your list
fills in some more history!  I wish I could find dates, but those products are
not in our IBM databases anywmore ... I googled 5734-CB1 and found an IBM book
with this in the title:

IBM OS Full American National Standard COBOL.: Program Numbers:
Version 2, 360S-CB-545; Version 3, 5734-CB1;
Version 4, 5734-CB2 (compiler and Library) 5734-LM2 (library Only).

So, that fills in some more:

360S-CB-545 COBOL is ANS COBOL V2
5734-CB1 is ANS COBOL V3
5734-CB2 is ANS COBOL V4

Cheers,
TomR  >> COBOL is the Language of the Future! <<

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Re: Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370

2021-01-07 Thread Bill Ogden
For what it is worth, the U.S. Government publication COBOL-1961-Extended 
(published as 1962-0668996, I believe) was based on 1959 COBOL work.

COBOL for the 1410/7010 had manual GC28-0327-5 published in 1966.  (Note 
the -5 in the pub number.)

COBOL for the 1401 was announced April 5, 1961.  (Dunno who used it; 
autocoder was the most common language.)

Bill Ogden


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Re: Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370

2021-01-06 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 6 Jan 2021 11:34:45 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.) wrote:

>W dniu 06.01.2021 o 09:19, Tom Ross pisze:
>> snip
>
>Tom,
>Thank you for the table.
>Actually I found some table in COBOL Migration Guide manual
>https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/hu/SS6SG3_6.3.0/migrate/igympreab2.html
> 
>
>but your table is more detailed - I mean dates.
>To make things more complex your table lack of third dimension ;-) I 
>mean MLC vs VUE flavours, which is technically irrelevant, but introduce 
>new PIDs (program numbers).
>And this is good you preserved version numbering - that simplifies 
>identification.
>
>Funny fact: I vaguely remember 1999 and some official announcements 
>about OS/VS COBOL withdrawals which were obscure and incomprehensible 
>for me at the time. ;-)
>
>BTW: This is pure curiosity, however was there any COBOL life on earth 
>before 1974? I'm sure it was some COBOL, but it was really looong time 
>ago. Maybe different product packaging and numbering, etc.

I used COBOL (19)61 and COBOL (19)63 on an RCA 301 in the 1963 - 1965
timeframe, then started with COBOL D on a 32K 360/30 with DOS
progressing to COBOL F on either the 64K mod 30 or 128K mod 40.  I
think I have used most versions on OS360 through MVS/XA in the time
frame 1977 - 1991 plus VS COBOL II release 1.4 (a major improvement)
followed by either COBOL 370 or COBOL for MVS and VM.

Clark Morris 
>
>Regards

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Re: Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370

2021-01-06 Thread Seymour J Metz
> entire history

No, it's missing a decade.

360S-C0-503 COBOL (E)

360S-CB-524 COBOL (F)

360S-CB-545 COBOL (U)

5734-CB1 OS FULL AMERICAN NATIONAL STANDARD COBOL Versions 1-3

5734-CB2 OS FULL AMERICAN NATIONAL STANDARD COBOL Version 4, 5



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>BTW: Is there description/list of COBOL versions anywhere?

 I don't know, but I have lists!  Here is the entire history, no names, just
 product ids, but you can kind of tell which is which by the dates.
OS/VS COBOL, VS COBOL II, etc etc
Note: You need fixed-width caharacters to view this table:

 Program  Marketing   Service
 Number   VRM Announced   Available   Withdrawn   Discontinued

 5740-CB1 1.02.4  1974/05/13  1974/09/23  1992/12/18  1999/12/31

 5668-958 1.03.0  1988/09/13  1988/12/16  1997/06/30  1996/06/30
 5668-958 1.03.1  1989/09/19  1989/12/29  1997/06/30  1996/06/30
 5668-958 1.03.2  1990/09/05  1990/12/28  1997/06/30  1996/06/30
 5668-958 1.04.0  1992/09/15  1993/03/12  1997/06/30  2001/03/31

 5688-197 1.01.0  1991/09/11  1991/12/20  2000/09/06  1997/09/30
 5688-197 1.02.0  1995/10/24  1995/10/27  2000/09/06  2001/12/31

 5648-A25 2.01.0  1997/05/06  1997/05/23  2000/09/29  2004/12/31
 5648-A25 2.02.0  2000/09/26  2000/09/29  2002/12/31  2004/12/31

 5655-G53 3.01.0  2001/11/27  2001/11/30  2002/09/27  2004/04/04
 5655-G53 3.02.0  2002/08/20  2002/09/27  2004/02/27  2005/10/03
 5655-G53 3.03.0  2004/02/17  2004/02/27  2005/07/01  2007/04/30
 5655-G53 3.04.0  2005/06/21  2005/07/01  2008/09/29  2015/04/30

 5655-S71 4.01.0  2007/12/11  2007/12/14  2009/08/25  2014/04/30
 5655-S71 4.02.0  2009/08/25  2009/08/28  2018/03/12  2021/09/30

 5655-W32 05.01.00 2013/04/23 2013/06/21  2015/01/14  2020/04/30
 5655-W32 05.02.00 2015/01/14 2015/02/27  2017/09/11  2020/04/30

 5655-EC6 06.01.00 2016/02/16 2016/03/18  2020/03/09  -
 5655-EC6 06.02.00 2017/07/17 2017/09/08  2020/03/09  -
 5655-EC6 06.03.00 2019/09/03 2019/09/06  -   -

Cheers,
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Re: Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370

2021-01-06 Thread Mike Schwab
The Turnkey collections have the 1968 compilers adapted to MVS.

On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 1:34 PM R.S.  wrote:
>
> W dniu 06.01.2021 o 09:19, Tom Ross pisze:
> >> BTW: Is there description/list of COBOL versions anywhere?
> >   I don't know, but I have lists!  Here is the entire history, no names, 
> > just
> >   product ids, but you can kind of tell which is which by the dates.
> > OS/VS COBOL, VS COBOL II, etc etc
> > Note: You need fixed-width caharacters to view this table:
> >
> >   Program  Marketing   Service
> >   Number   VRM Announced   Available   Withdrawn   Discontinued
> >
> >   5740-CB1 1.02.4  1974/05/13  1974/09/23  1992/12/18  1999/12/31
> >
> >   5668-958 1.03.0  1988/09/13  1988/12/16  1997/06/30  1996/06/30
> >   5668-958 1.03.1  1989/09/19  1989/12/29  1997/06/30  1996/06/30
> >   5668-958 1.03.2  1990/09/05  1990/12/28  1997/06/30  1996/06/30
> >   5668-958 1.04.0  1992/09/15  1993/03/12  1997/06/30  2001/03/31
> >
> >   5688-197 1.01.0  1991/09/11  1991/12/20  2000/09/06  1997/09/30
> >   5688-197 1.02.0  1995/10/24  1995/10/27  2000/09/06  2001/12/31
> >
> >   5648-A25 2.01.0  1997/05/06  1997/05/23  2000/09/29  2004/12/31
> >   5648-A25 2.02.0  2000/09/26  2000/09/29  2002/12/31  2004/12/31
> >
> >   5655-G53 3.01.0  2001/11/27  2001/11/30  2002/09/27  2004/04/04
> >   5655-G53 3.02.0  2002/08/20  2002/09/27  2004/02/27  2005/10/03
> >   5655-G53 3.03.0  2004/02/17  2004/02/27  2005/07/01  2007/04/30
> >   5655-G53 3.04.0  2005/06/21  2005/07/01  2008/09/29  2015/04/30
> >
> >   5655-S71 4.01.0  2007/12/11  2007/12/14  2009/08/25  2014/04/30
> >   5655-S71 4.02.0  2009/08/25  2009/08/28  2018/03/12  2021/09/30
> >
> >   5655-W32 05.01.00 2013/04/23 2013/06/21  2015/01/14  2020/04/30
> >   5655-W32 05.02.00 2015/01/14 2015/02/27  2017/09/11  2020/04/30
> >
> >   5655-EC6 06.01.00 2016/02/16 2016/03/18  2020/03/09  -
> >   5655-EC6 06.02.00 2017/07/17 2017/09/08  2020/03/09  -
> >   5655-EC6 06.03.00 2019/09/03 2019/09/06  -   -
> >
> > Cheers,
> > TomR  >> COBOL is the Language of the Future! <<
> >
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> Tom,
> Thank you for the table.
> Actually I found some table in COBOL Migration Guide manual
> https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/hu/SS6SG3_6.3.0/migrate/igympreab2.html
>
> but your table is more detailed - I mean dates.
> To make things more complex your table lack of third dimension ;-) I
> mean MLC vs VUE flavours, which is technically irrelevant, but introduce
> new PIDs (program numbers).
> And this is good you preserved version numbering - that simplifies
> identification.
>
> Funny fact: I vaguely remember 1999 and some official announcements
> about OS/VS COBOL withdrawals which were obscure and incomprehensible
> for me at the time. ;-)
>
> BTW: This is pure curiosity, however was there any COBOL life on earth
> before 1974? I'm sure it was some COBOL, but it was really looong time
> ago. Maybe different product packaging and numbering, etc.
>
> Regards
> --
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> Lodz, Poland
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370

2021-01-06 Thread Charles Mills
I came to the platform in 1968 and COBOL definitely beat me to it.

Charles


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W dniu 06.01.2021 o 09:19, Tom Ross pisze:
>> BTW: Is there description/list of COBOL versions anywhere?
>   I don't know, but I have lists!  Here is the entire history, no names,
just
>   product ids, but you can kind of tell which is which by the dates.
> OS/VS COBOL, VS COBOL II, etc etc
> Note: You need fixed-width caharacters to view this table:
>
>   Program  Marketing   Service
>   Number   VRM Announced   Available   Withdrawn   Discontinued
>
>   5740-CB1 1.02.4  1974/05/13  1974/09/23  1992/12/18  1999/12/31
>
>   5668-958 1.03.0  1988/09/13  1988/12/16  1997/06/30  1996/06/30
>   5668-958 1.03.1  1989/09/19  1989/12/29  1997/06/30  1996/06/30
>   5668-958 1.03.2  1990/09/05  1990/12/28  1997/06/30  1996/06/30
>   5668-958 1.04.0  1992/09/15  1993/03/12  1997/06/30  2001/03/31
>
>   5688-197 1.01.0  1991/09/11  1991/12/20  2000/09/06  1997/09/30
>   5688-197 1.02.0  1995/10/24  1995/10/27  2000/09/06  2001/12/31
>
>   5648-A25 2.01.0  1997/05/06  1997/05/23  2000/09/29  2004/12/31
>   5648-A25 2.02.0  2000/09/26  2000/09/29  2002/12/31  2004/12/31
>
>   5655-G53 3.01.0  2001/11/27  2001/11/30  2002/09/27  2004/04/04
>   5655-G53 3.02.0  2002/08/20  2002/09/27  2004/02/27  2005/10/03
>   5655-G53 3.03.0  2004/02/17  2004/02/27  2005/07/01  2007/04/30
>   5655-G53 3.04.0  2005/06/21  2005/07/01  2008/09/29  2015/04/30
>
>   5655-S71 4.01.0  2007/12/11  2007/12/14  2009/08/25  2014/04/30
>   5655-S71 4.02.0  2009/08/25  2009/08/28  2018/03/12  2021/09/30
>
>   5655-W32 05.01.00 2013/04/23 2013/06/21  2015/01/14  2020/04/30
>   5655-W32 05.02.00 2015/01/14 2015/02/27  2017/09/11  2020/04/30
>
>   5655-EC6 06.01.00 2016/02/16 2016/03/18  2020/03/09  -
>   5655-EC6 06.02.00 2017/07/17 2017/09/08  2020/03/09  -
>   5655-EC6 06.03.00 2019/09/03 2019/09/06  -   -
>
> Cheers,
> TomR  >> COBOL is the Language of the Future! <<
>
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Tom,
Thank you for the table.
Actually I found some table in COBOL Migration Guide manual
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/hu/SS6SG3_6.3.0/migrate/igymprea
b2.html 

but your table is more detailed - I mean dates.
To make things more complex your table lack of third dimension ;-) I 
mean MLC vs VUE flavours, which is technically irrelevant, but introduce 
new PIDs (program numbers).
And this is good you preserved version numbering - that simplifies 
identification.

Funny fact: I vaguely remember 1999 and some official announcements 
about OS/VS COBOL withdrawals which were obscure and incomprehensible 
for me at the time. ;-)

BTW: This is pure curiosity, however was there any COBOL life on earth 
before 1974? I'm sure it was some COBOL, but it was really looong time 
ago. Maybe different product packaging and numbering, etc.

Regards
-- 
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Lodz, Poland





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Re: Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370

2021-01-06 Thread R.S.

W dniu 06.01.2021 o 09:19, Tom Ross pisze:

BTW: Is there description/list of COBOL versions anywhere?

  I don't know, but I have lists!  Here is the entire history, no names, just
  product ids, but you can kind of tell which is which by the dates.
OS/VS COBOL, VS COBOL II, etc etc
Note: You need fixed-width caharacters to view this table:

  Program  Marketing   Service
  Number   VRM Announced   Available   Withdrawn   Discontinued

  5740-CB1 1.02.4  1974/05/13  1974/09/23  1992/12/18  1999/12/31

  5668-958 1.03.0  1988/09/13  1988/12/16  1997/06/30  1996/06/30
  5668-958 1.03.1  1989/09/19  1989/12/29  1997/06/30  1996/06/30
  5668-958 1.03.2  1990/09/05  1990/12/28  1997/06/30  1996/06/30
  5668-958 1.04.0  1992/09/15  1993/03/12  1997/06/30  2001/03/31

  5688-197 1.01.0  1991/09/11  1991/12/20  2000/09/06  1997/09/30
  5688-197 1.02.0  1995/10/24  1995/10/27  2000/09/06  2001/12/31

  5648-A25 2.01.0  1997/05/06  1997/05/23  2000/09/29  2004/12/31
  5648-A25 2.02.0  2000/09/26  2000/09/29  2002/12/31  2004/12/31

  5655-G53 3.01.0  2001/11/27  2001/11/30  2002/09/27  2004/04/04
  5655-G53 3.02.0  2002/08/20  2002/09/27  2004/02/27  2005/10/03
  5655-G53 3.03.0  2004/02/17  2004/02/27  2005/07/01  2007/04/30
  5655-G53 3.04.0  2005/06/21  2005/07/01  2008/09/29  2015/04/30

  5655-S71 4.01.0  2007/12/11  2007/12/14  2009/08/25  2014/04/30
  5655-S71 4.02.0  2009/08/25  2009/08/28  2018/03/12  2021/09/30

  5655-W32 05.01.00 2013/04/23 2013/06/21  2015/01/14  2020/04/30
  5655-W32 05.02.00 2015/01/14 2015/02/27  2017/09/11  2020/04/30

  5655-EC6 06.01.00 2016/02/16 2016/03/18  2020/03/09  -
  5655-EC6 06.02.00 2017/07/17 2017/09/08  2020/03/09  -
  5655-EC6 06.03.00 2019/09/03 2019/09/06  -   -

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Tom,
Thank you for the table.
Actually I found some table in COBOL Migration Guide manual
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/hu/SS6SG3_6.3.0/migrate/igympreab2.html 


but your table is more detailed - I mean dates.
To make things more complex your table lack of third dimension ;-) I 
mean MLC vs VUE flavours, which is technically irrelevant, but introduce 
new PIDs (program numbers).
And this is good you preserved version numbering - that simplifies 
identification.


Funny fact: I vaguely remember 1999 and some official announcements 
about OS/VS COBOL withdrawals which were obscure and incomprehensible 
for me at the time. ;-)


BTW: This is pure curiosity, however was there any COBOL life on earth 
before 1974? I'm sure it was some COBOL, but it was really looong time 
ago. Maybe different product packaging and numbering, etc.


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Re: Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370

2021-01-06 Thread Tom Ross
>BTW: Is there description/list of COBOL versions anywhere?

 I don't know, but I have lists!  Here is the entire history, no names, just
 product ids, but you can kind of tell which is which by the dates.
OS/VS COBOL, VS COBOL II, etc etc
Note: You need fixed-width caharacters to view this table:

 Program  Marketing   Service
 Number   VRM Announced   Available   Withdrawn   Discontinued

 5740-CB1 1.02.4  1974/05/13  1974/09/23  1992/12/18  1999/12/31

 5668-958 1.03.0  1988/09/13  1988/12/16  1997/06/30  1996/06/30
 5668-958 1.03.1  1989/09/19  1989/12/29  1997/06/30  1996/06/30
 5668-958 1.03.2  1990/09/05  1990/12/28  1997/06/30  1996/06/30
 5668-958 1.04.0  1992/09/15  1993/03/12  1997/06/30  2001/03/31

 5688-197 1.01.0  1991/09/11  1991/12/20  2000/09/06  1997/09/30
 5688-197 1.02.0  1995/10/24  1995/10/27  2000/09/06  2001/12/31

 5648-A25 2.01.0  1997/05/06  1997/05/23  2000/09/29  2004/12/31
 5648-A25 2.02.0  2000/09/26  2000/09/29  2002/12/31  2004/12/31

 5655-G53 3.01.0  2001/11/27  2001/11/30  2002/09/27  2004/04/04
 5655-G53 3.02.0  2002/08/20  2002/09/27  2004/02/27  2005/10/03
 5655-G53 3.03.0  2004/02/17  2004/02/27  2005/07/01  2007/04/30
 5655-G53 3.04.0  2005/06/21  2005/07/01  2008/09/29  2015/04/30

 5655-S71 4.01.0  2007/12/11  2007/12/14  2009/08/25  2014/04/30
 5655-S71 4.02.0  2009/08/25  2009/08/28  2018/03/12  2021/09/30

 5655-W32 05.01.00 2013/04/23 2013/06/21  2015/01/14  2020/04/30
 5655-W32 05.02.00 2015/01/14 2015/02/27  2017/09/11  2020/04/30

 5655-EC6 06.01.00 2016/02/16 2016/03/18  2020/03/09  -
 5655-EC6 06.02.00 2017/07/17 2017/09/08  2020/03/09  -
 5655-EC6 06.03.00 2019/09/03 2019/09/06  -   -

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Re: Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370

2020-12-21 Thread CM Poncelet
I have the licensed OS/390 V2R10 IBM Library CDs, but have not looked
for COBOL libraries/docs/directories on them (COBOL is not quite "my
thing".) But, if whatever you are looking for might be on there, let me
know and I'll search them. HTH

On 21/12/2020 16:39, Charles Mills wrote:
> I have a paper OS/VS COBOL P/G SC28-6483-2. It says "third edition, October 
> 1981," if that helps.
>
> Charles
>
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>> Thank you for the information. I appreciate it.
>>
>>
>> BTW: Is there description/list of COBOL versions anywhere?
>> I mean z/OS family, something like
>> Enterprise COBOL 6.3  year
>> Enterprise COBOL 6.2  year
>> Enterprise COBOL 5.x  year
>> Enterprise COBOL 4.x  year
>> Enterprise COBOL 3.2 year
>> ...
>> VS COBOL II ?
>> ...
>> OS/VS COBOL ?
>>
> Auto-answer:
> https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SS6SG3_6.3.0/migrate/igympreab2.html
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> However the list on the page above does not contain dates. It's a pity.
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Re: Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370

2020-12-21 Thread Charles Mills
I have a paper OS/VS COBOL P/G SC28-6483-2. It says "third edition, October 
1981," if that helps.

Charles


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W dniu 21.12.2020 o 14:30, R.S. pisze:
> Thank you for the information. I appreciate it.
>
>
> BTW: Is there description/list of COBOL versions anywhere?
> I mean z/OS family, something like
> Enterprise COBOL 6.3  year
> Enterprise COBOL 6.2  year
> Enterprise COBOL 5.x  year
> Enterprise COBOL 4.x  year
> Enterprise COBOL 3.2 year
> ...
> VS COBOL II ?
> ...
> OS/VS COBOL ?
>

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Re: Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370

2020-12-21 Thread Jousma, David
Here you go Radoslaw.  Some of that info is on the IBM product lifecycle webpage

https://www.ibm.com/support/lifecycle/

   Enterprise COBOL for z/OS6.3.x   Enhanced
5655-EC62019-09-06  
Enterprise COBOL for z/OS   6.2.x   Enhanced5655-EC6
2017-09-08  
Enterprise COBOL for z/OS   6.1.x   Enhanced5655-EC6
2016-03-18  
Enterprise COBOL for z/OS   5.2.x   Enhanced5655-W32
2015-02-27  2020-04-30
Enterprise COBOL for z/OS   5.1.x   Enhanced5655-W32
2013-06-21  2020-04-30
Enterprise COBOL for z/OS   4.2.x   Standard5655-S71
2009-08-28  2022-04-30
Enterprise COBOL for z/OS   4.1.x   Standard5655-S71
2007-12-14  2014-04-30
Enterprise COBOL for z/OS   3.4.x   Standard5655-G53
2005-07-01  2015-04-30

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> Thank you for the information. I appreciate it.
>
>
> BTW: Is there description/list of COBOL versions anywhere?
> I mean z/OS family, something like
> Enterprise COBOL 6.3  year
> Enterprise COBOL 6.2  year
> Enterprise COBOL 5.x  year
> Enterprise COBOL 4.x  year
> Enterprise COBOL 3.2 year
> ...
> VS COBOL II ?
> ...
> OS/VS COBOL ?
>

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Re: Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370

2020-12-21 Thread R.S.

W dniu 21.12.2020 o 14:30, R.S. pisze:

Thank you for the information. I appreciate it.


BTW: Is there description/list of COBOL versions anywhere?
I mean z/OS family, something like
Enterprise COBOL 6.3  year
Enterprise COBOL 6.2  year
Enterprise COBOL 5.x  year
Enterprise COBOL 4.x  year
Enterprise COBOL 3.2 year
...
VS COBOL II ?
...
OS/VS COBOL ?



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Re: Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370

2020-12-21 Thread Joe Monk
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Joe

On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 7:30 AM R.S.  wrote:

> Thank you for the information. I appreciate it.
>
>
> BTW: Is there description/list of COBOL versions anywhere?
> I mean z/OS family, something like
> Enterprise COBOL 6.3  year
> Enterprise COBOL 6.2  year
> Enterprise COBOL 5.x  year
> Enterprise COBOL 4.x  year
> Enterprise COBOL 3.2 year
> ...
> VS COBOL II ?
> ...
> OS/VS COBOL ?
>
> --
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> Lodz, Poland
>
>
>
>
>
>
> W dniu 21.12.2020 o 14:17, Joe Monk pisze:
> > "Just curious: What was "AD/Cycle"?"
> >
> > AD/Cycle was part of SAA - the  systems applications architecture.
> AD/Cycle
> > referred to the "Application Development Cycle".
> >
> >
> https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?appname=skmwww=897%2FENUS290-529=AN=service%20initializer=ibmsearch_a=CA
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 7:10 AM R.S. 
> wrote:
> >
> >> W dniu 15.12.2020 o 10:19, Peter pisze:
> >>> Hello
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone have a copy of Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370 1.2 ?
> >>>
> >>> I don't find the installation manual over web might be due to
> >> backlevelled
> >>> Any pointers ?
> >> Just curious: What was "AD/Cycle"?
> >> I'm aware the above can be found in old compiler names, but ...was is
> >> brand name or some marketing name?
> >>
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> >> Lodz, Poland
> >>
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Re: Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370

2020-12-21 Thread R.S.

Thank you for the information. I appreciate it.


BTW: Is there description/list of COBOL versions anywhere?
I mean z/OS family, something like
Enterprise COBOL 6.3  year
Enterprise COBOL 6.2  year
Enterprise COBOL 5.x  year
Enterprise COBOL 4.x  year
Enterprise COBOL 3.2 year
...
VS COBOL II ?
...
OS/VS COBOL ?

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W dniu 21.12.2020 o 14:17, Joe Monk pisze:

"Just curious: What was "AD/Cycle"?"

AD/Cycle was part of SAA - the  systems applications architecture. AD/Cycle
referred to the "Application Development Cycle".

https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?appname=skmwww=897%2FENUS290-529=AN=service%20initializer=ibmsearch_a=CA

Joe

On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 7:10 AM R.S.  wrote:


W dniu 15.12.2020 o 10:19, Peter pisze:

Hello

Does anyone have a copy of Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370 1.2 ?

I don't find the installation manual over web might be due to

backlevelled

Any pointers ?

Just curious: What was "AD/Cycle"?
I'm aware the above can be found in old compiler names, but ...was is
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Re: Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370

2020-12-21 Thread Joe Monk
"Just curious: What was "AD/Cycle"?"

AD/Cycle was part of SAA - the  systems applications architecture. AD/Cycle
referred to the "Application Development Cycle".

https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?appname=skmwww=897%2FENUS290-529=AN=service%20initializer=ibmsearch_a=CA

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On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 7:10 AM R.S.  wrote:

> W dniu 15.12.2020 o 10:19, Peter pisze:
> > Hello
> >
> > Does anyone have a copy of Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370 1.2 ?
> >
> > I don't find the installation manual over web might be due to
> backlevelled
> >
> > Any pointers ?
>
> Just curious: What was "AD/Cycle"?
> I'm aware the above can be found in old compiler names, but ...was is
> brand name or some marketing name?
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Re: Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370

2020-12-21 Thread R.S.

W dniu 15.12.2020 o 10:19, Peter pisze:

Hello

Does anyone have a copy of Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370 1.2 ?

I don't find the installation manual over web might be due to backlevelled

Any pointers ?


Just curious: What was "AD/Cycle"?
I'm aware the above can be found in old compiler names, but ...was is 
brand name or some marketing name?


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Re: Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370

2020-12-15 Thread Attila Fogarasi
It was on the product tape in Bookmanager format and not separately
orderable,  I think.  A hardcopy came with the tapes.  Note that Adobe
Acrobat did not exist until several years after this product was released
(hence no pdf).

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 8:53 PM Peter  wrote:

> It doesn't takes me to get a copy of PDF
>
> On Tue, 15 Dec, 2020, 1:51 pm Jan Vanbrabant, 
> wrote:
>
> > Is/was the a PGMDIR,  Peter?
> >
> >
> >
> https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=dd=sm=897/ENUS5688-216
> >
> > Jan
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 10:19 AM Peter  wrote:
> >
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > Does anyone have a copy of Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370 1.2 ?
> > >
> > > I don't find the installation manual over web might be due to
> > backlevelled
> > >
> > > Any pointers ?
> > >
> > > Peter
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Re: Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370

2020-12-15 Thread Peter
It doesn't takes me to get a copy of PDF

On Tue, 15 Dec, 2020, 1:51 pm Jan Vanbrabant, 
wrote:

> Is/was the a PGMDIR,  Peter?
>
>
> https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=dd=sm=897/ENUS5688-216
>
> Jan
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 10:19 AM Peter  wrote:
>
> > Hello
> >
> > Does anyone have a copy of Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370 1.2 ?
> >
> > I don't find the installation manual over web might be due to
> backlevelled
> >
> > Any pointers ?
> >
> > Peter
> >
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Re: Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370

2020-12-15 Thread Jan Vanbrabant
Is/was the a PGMDIR,  Peter?

https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=dd=sm=897/ENUS5688-216

Jan

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 10:19 AM Peter  wrote:

> Hello
>
> Does anyone have a copy of Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370 1.2 ?
>
> I don't find the installation manual over web might be due to backlevelled
>
> Any pointers ?
>
> Peter
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Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370

2020-12-15 Thread Peter
Hello

Does anyone have a copy of Progam directory AD/Cycle C/370 1.2 ?

I don't find the installation manual over web might be due to backlevelled

Any pointers ?

Peter

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