The old system would disable the dial if no coin was deposited, however,
the hook switch (rest) would still pulse the line. When the handset was
lifted a resistance was put across the line allowing current to flow. At
this point the line would supply dial tone and listen for dial pulses. The
stro
On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 13:34:04 -0500, Bob Bridges wrote:
>That's a new one on me. How did tapping instead of dialing save you the
>fourpence? I'd have thought that whatever allowed the call to go through a)
>didn't know the difference between tapping and dialing, and b) wouldn't go
>without bei
That's a new one on me. How did tapping instead of dialing save you the
fourpence? I'd have thought that whatever allowed the call to go through a)
didn't know the difference between tapping and dialing, and b) wouldn't go
without being paid.
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> Subject: Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as
> placeholder]
>
> Boomers code better anyway.
>
>
> Doug Fuerst
> 718.921.2620 (O)
> 917.572.7364 (C)
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>
> -- Original Mes
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Boomers code better anyway.
Doug Fuerst
718.921.2620 (O)
917
: Friday, February 28, 2020 12:46 PM
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Subject: Re: Rexx parse using period as placeholder
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 19:48:54 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
>How to do this maintaining the quotes? That's needed for allocating the
>data set.
>
>Yet again, simple t
:03 PM
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I didn't pay much attention to this subthread, back when it first started
up. But it looks as though it's lasting longer than I expected; maybe I
should go back and reread and figure out what's
Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as
placeholder]
On Feb 28, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Bob Bridges wrote:
>
> Guys, on the matter of French spacing (as with the Oxford comma) neither side
> can legitimately argue that the debate is over. It's just not true that th
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 18:43:11 +, Pew, Curtis G wrote:
>...
>I learned th
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 18:43:11 +, Pew, Curtis G wrote:
>...
>I learned the two-space rule when I started typing on my
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 14:53:36 -0500, Bob Bridges wrote:
>
>And I remember first discovering by experiment that all a rotary phone does is
>put a counted number of clicks onto the line - and that I could "dial" a
>number equally well by just tapping on the receiver to simulate the clicks.
>...
>
I'm just barely old enough to remember that my childhood telephone number was
like that, something like "Barrymore 7-1234" where "Barrymore" indicated the
first two numbers of the exchange. Long gone, that convention.
And I remember first discovering by experiment that all a rotary phone does i
Maybe my problem is hereditary! My mom in La Mirada, California still
has a working rotary dial phone hanging on the wall. I believe it
doesn't even belong to her - they probably add a few dollars to the bill
for rent. Printed in the center of the dial is the phone number, "LA-1
" which
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 13:12:53 -0600, Mike Schwab wrote:
>Well, how about a rotary dial cell phone?
>https://gizmodo.com/someone-built-a-distraction-free-cellphone-with-a-worki-1841636089
>
There are limitations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=updE5LVe6tg
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> > Boomer :)
> >
> > On 2/28/2020 7:40 AM, Mitch Mccluhan wrote:
> >>I VOTE FOR 2 SP
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 18:43:11 +, Pew, Curtis G wrote:
>...
>I learned the two-space rule when I started typing on my mom’s Selectric back
>in the 70s, but I’ve gotten out of the habit now that word processors usually
>reformat my input in any case.
>
Vim is an idiot. It prefers:
Dr.
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> > Sent: Fri, Feb 28, 2020 9:26 am
> > Subject: Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as
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> >
> > This is a sentence ending with one space. This is
Is it, really? I'm usually a good speller, but I guess I've been doing that
one wrong since I first read "The Hobbit".
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On Feb 28, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Bob Bridges wrote:
>
> Guys, on the matter of French spacing (as with the Oxford comma) neither side
> can legitimately argue that the debate is over. It's just not true that the
> consensus has established "the rule"; you'll find, rather, a significant body
> of
Guys, on the matter of French spacing (as with the Oxford comma) neither side
can legitimately argue that the debate is over. It's just not true that the
consensus has established "the rule"; you'll find, rather, a significant body
of thought on both sides. I've had to settle back and agree to
Baby-boomer, I presume he means. Born during the '50s, mostly.
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I didn't pay much attention to this subthread, back when it first started
up. But it looks as though it's lasting longer than I expected; maybe I
should go back and reread and figure out what's holding up the solution.
You're trying to work out a way to pass and correctly parse an argument that
ma
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Subject: Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as
placeholder]
Boomer :)
On 2/28/2020 7:40 AM, Mitch Mccluhan wrote:
I VOTE FOR 2 SPACES!!! Is that loud enough? It has ALWA
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 19:48:54 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
>How to do this maintaining the quotes? That's needed for allocating the
>data set.
>
>Yet again, simple to do with a regex.
>
>On 2020-02-28 1:41 AM, Dale R. Smith wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 17:30:03 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>>
>>
ter periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as
placeholder]
Boomer?
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Boomer :)
On 2/28/2020 7:40 AM, Mitch Mccl
Boomer?
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Subject: Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as
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Boomer :)
On 2/28/2020 7:40 AM, Mitch Mccluhan wrote:
> I VOTE FOR 2 SPACES!!! Is that loud eno
: Rexx parse using period as
placeholder]
This is a sentence ending with one space. This is a sentence ending with
two spaces. My email client is supposedly using a proportional,
variable width font, and the typical smaller width used for a space
character tends to make sentences merge together
I VOTE FOR 2 SPACES!!! Is that loud enough? It has ALWAYS made reading,
easier.
Mitch
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Subject: Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as
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This is a sentence
bject: Re: Rexx parse using period as placeholder
How to do this maintaining the quotes? That's needed for allocating the
data set.
Yet again, simple to do with a regex.
On 2020-02-28 1:41 AM, Dale R. Smith wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 17:30:03 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
>&
This is a sentence ending with one space. This is a sentence ending with
two spaces. My email client is supposedly using a proportional,
variable width font, and the typical smaller width used for a space
character tends to make sentences merge together visually when only a
single space is use
00ash...@gmail.com]
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>How to do this maintaining the quotes? That's needed for allocating the data
>set.
I would work internally with the absolute DSN - if it is a file wi
How to do this maintaining the quotes? That's needed for allocating the data
set.
I would work internally with the absolute DSN - if it is a file without
the user's HLQ, I would add it, if it is a filename specified with the
quotes, I would strip it off in the program. This allows me to contro
How to do this maintaining the quotes? That's needed for allocating the
data set.
Yet again, simple to do with a regex.
On 2020-02-28 1:41 AM, Dale R. Smith wrote:
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 17:30:03 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
The quotes were OK, the space between translate and the left paren wa
The rule now is 1 space after a period.
Two spaces after a period was the rule on a typewriter, because the fonts
weren't proportional, they were monospace. This led to uneven spacing of
words on paper, so two spaces was the rule.
Nowadays, on a computer, the fonts are proportional. For instance
ford
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I never said "old programmers". That would be self defeating as I "am"
an old programmer. My point was that experienced z/OS guys don't want to
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I'm confused by this whole thread. I'm surprised at the behavior of the
program, I'
Vs e e cummings.
https://cummingsatsilverlake.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/cummingscartoon.jpg
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 9:55 PM David Spiegel wrote:
>
> *JRR Tolkien
>
>
>
> On 2020-02-27 22:43, Bob Bridges wrote:
> > I think most people spell that without any spaces at all, ie "i.e.". Also
> >
As a Yorkshireman, two spaces is a waste of paper :)
Then there's the tale of the Scotsman and the pins in an early stock
control system.
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 4:01 PM zMan wrote:
> It's considered "old" because it's how people were taught to type on
> typewriters, so the theory is "If you do
It's considered "old" because it's how people were taught to type on
typewriters, so the theory is "If you do this, you learned back when people
learned on typewriters, which makes you old". In any case, it's not
considered standard any more: style guides eschew it.
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 10:44 P
*JRR Tolkien
On 2020-02-27 22:43, Bob Bridges wrote:
I think most people spell that without any spaces at all, ie "i.e.". Also "e.g.". Me, I eschew periods in abbreviations that
are common enough; "ie", "eg", "Mr", "Dr", "JRR Tolkein" and so on. I add them to my dictionary so
spell-check
I think most people spell that without any spaces at all, ie "i.e.". Also
"e.g.". Me, I eschew periods in abbreviations that are common enough; "ie",
"eg", "Mr", "Dr", "JRR Tolkein" and so on. I add them to my dictionary so
spell-check doesn't get annoyed. (Spell-check always believes me, sm
David patched the gawk regex for EBCDIC. That's pretty much all that was
required to get gawk running on z/OS as it's very portable.
From what I've seen of David's work he's a very good engineer.
On 2020-02-28 10:51 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 10:39:46 +0800, David Crayford w
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 10:39:46 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
>
>David Pitts ported gawk to z/OS years ago. If you've got a C compiler
>you can easily build it yourself.
>
I brushed up against one of David Pitts's ports (gcc, IIRC) several years
ago. My impression is that David is oriented to Classic
On 2020-02-28 4:13 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
Given IBM's long and steadfast reluctance to break compatibility with whatever
they implement in software the first time around it may never happen that it
changes either.
And maybe Rocket will someday get a z/OS version of gawk out the door.
On 2020-02-28 4:13 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
Given IBM's long and steadfast reluctance to break compatibility with whatever
they implement in software the first time around it may never happen that it
changes either.
And maybe Rocket will someday get a z/OS version of gawk out the door.
, February 27, 2020 3:48 PM
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Subject: Re: Rexx parse using period as placeholder
On Feb 27, 2020, at 11:48 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
> Perl is ugly, but the only thing that I might call read only is the regex
> syntax, and Lua seems tom suffer from the same dis
ight be tempted to switch.
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Single space after a period if not end of sentence. I. E. abbreviations.
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 2:59 PM Paul Gilmartin
<000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 15:48:44 -0500, Steve Smith wrote:
>
> >Thanks for another reminder I'm "really old" :-). The ru
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 15:48:44 -0500, Steve Smith wrote:
>Thanks for another reminder I'm "really old" :-). The rule, btw, is two
>spaces at the end of a sentence. And I think it makes at least as much
>sense for proportional fonts as mono. You can (and I do) have Word check
>to make sure they're
Thanks for another reminder I'm "really old" :-). The rule, btw, is two
spaces at the end of a sentence. And I think it makes at least as much
sense for proportional fonts as mono. You can (and I do) have Word check
to make sure they're always there...
sas
...
>
>
> P.S. I've heard that you
On Feb 27, 2020, at 11:48 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
> Perl is ugly, but the only thing that I might call read only is the regex
> syntax, and Lua seems tom suffer from the same disease. The obvious advantage
> of Perl is the massive collection of packages in CPAN; if I had an equivalrnt
> fo
k out the door. That
would be a real blessing.
Peter
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On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 18:25:03
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 18:25:03 +, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
>... examples from my employer's z/OS V2.2 system (sanitized):
>
>//AWKSPLIT EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,MEMLIMIT2256M
>//STDENV DD *
>SCRIPT=TSOUSER.TEST.EXEC(AWKSPLIT)
>INPUT=TSOUSER.TEST.CSV
*/
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Sorry David, but I must disagree wit
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P.S. I've heard that you can tell if someone is really old if they type two
spaces after a period.
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P.S. I've heard that you can tell if someone is really old if they type two
spaces after a period.
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Nice examples! But you might be missing
//STDENV DD *
_BPX_SHAREAS=MUST
If you are using the DDs allocated in the job.
Regards,
Leo
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Two recent examples from my employer's z/OS V2.2 system (sanitized):
//AWKSPLIT EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,MEMLIMIT=256M
//STDENV DD *
SCRIPT=TSOUSER.TEST.EXEC(AWKSPLIT)
INPUT=TSOUSER.TES
> “Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use
regular expressions." Now they have two problems.”
Funny! And this is quite a thread I'm skimming over. I'm not totally
sure if it's about old programmers who won't/can't change, or regular
expressions. But I'll add my
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On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 17:31:24 +, Farley, Pe
>
>For the record I am personally ver
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On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 17:31:24 +, Farley,
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 17:31:24 +, Farley, Pe
>
>For the record I am personally very comfortable with regexen and use them all
>the time in awk scripts for work (yes, in both z/OS Unix and z/OS JCL) ...
>
???
In which z/OS release did JCL gain support for regexen? I've long
wished for even the
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On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 17:30:03 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>The quotes were OK, the space between translate and the left paren was not.
>Fixing that
: Rexx parse using period as placeholder
Why Lua? Because it can run in TSO/ISPF/CICS which the others cannot.
Rocket has a decent port of Python which runs well in USS and has a
massive runtime library. It nukes Perl!
Perl sucks! t'it a read only language!
Rust hasn't been ported to z/OS
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 17:30:03 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>The quotes were OK, the space between translate and the left paren was not.
>Fixing that
>
>parm="INDSN('HLQ.DSNAME(MEMBER)')"
>Parse Value Translate(parm,"","'")' ' With fill1 '(' val ') ' fill2;say
> 'fill1='fill1 'val='val 'f
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I'm confused by this whole thread. I'm surprised at the behavior of the
program, I'm baffled why Shmuel would ask why Thomas is surprised, and I
don't understand what Thomas means by saying "it is the
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I never said "old programmers". That would be self defeating as I "am"
an old programmer. My point was that expe
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On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 19:07:37 +0800, David Cr
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 10:29:08 -0600, Dale R. Smith
wrote:
>On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 19:07:37 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
>
>>OK. Let me change the requirements again ;) How about also handling
>>single quotes for a fully qualified data set.
>>
>>Simple to do with a regex. Not so simple using REXX.
>
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I never said "old programmers". That would be self defeating as I &q
y 27, 2020 11:31 AM
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I never said "old programmers". That would be self defeating as I "am"
an old programmer. My point was that experienced z/OS guys don't want to
learn new stuff. And I st
, February 27, 2020 11:18 AM
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R'Shmuel,
You may have to explain what "AK" means.
I'm not sure that everyone is familiar with this.
Regards,
David
On 2020-02-27 10:46, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>&
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On Feb 27, 2020, at 10:13 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
> Don't confuse logic with habit; there is nothing illogical about regexen.
> Yes, the syntax is clumsy and not nearly as readable as patterns in, e.g.,
>
Ah, I withdraw my confusion; IBM needed to emphasize the word "first" more than
they did, perhaps, but Gil's explanation finally got through to me. It's
something I may be able to keep in mind in the future. Or maybe not. But:
myVar = 'word1 word2 9.12 word3.ext'
Parse Var myVar . . . myV
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Disclaimer here: I work for Rocket Software who offer lot of ported
tools for
I'm confused by this whole thread. I'm surprised at the behavior of the
program, I'm baffled why Shmuel would ask why Thomas is surprised, and I
don't understand what Thomas means by saying "it is the definition of a
blank delimited word" that escaped him.
The obvious behavior of the parse statem
3. Don't confuse lack of familiarity with prejudice against;
why not give some examples and see whether anybody is
interested?
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On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 19:07:37 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
>OK. Let me change the requirements again ;) How about also handling
>single quotes for a fully qualified data set.
>
>Simple to do with a regex. Not so simple using REXX.
>
>Syntax:
>
> INDSN(DSNAME(MEMBER))
> INDSN(DSNAME)
>
du/~smetz3
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Disclaimer here: I work
On Feb 27, 2020, at 10:13 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
> Don't confuse logic with habit; there is nothing illogical about regexen.
> Yes, the syntax is clumsy and not nearly as readable as patterns in, e.g.,
> SNOBOL, but there's nothing magic about them, I could teach a bright
> elementary sch
Don't confuse lack of familiarity with prejudice against;
why not give some examples and see whether anybody is interested?
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You are being pedantic, but
du/~smetz3
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Now, that is a bunch of BS.
Old timers do want to
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 9:47 AM Tony Thigpen wrote:
> Now, that is a bunch of BS.
>
> Old timers do want to learn new things, but...
>
> Our minds have been trained over many years to use logic paths that are
> built on 'logic'. Some of the newer tools being used conflict with those
> ingrained t
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I consider simple to be a single line regular expression which can
handle the parsing grammar in one hit
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 9:31 AM Seymour J Metz wrote:
> UHG?
>
Sorry - the corporation that owns the company that I work for --
UnitedHealth Group. The largest multinational health insurer. They have the
to do whatever it takes to force the mainframe to disappear -- to
which they are dedica
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You are being pedantic, but that's ok.
I have found (from my co-workers especially) that most mainframe people
of a certain vintage are not w
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Subject: Re: Rexx parse using period as placeholder
I consider simple to be a single line regular expression which ca
Disclaimer here: I work for Rocket Software who offer lot of ported
tools for free. My opinions are my own!
REXX is great but it doesn't scale for writing large software solutions.
It doesn't have modules, variable scoping and all those things
we expect from modern languages. it's pervasive so
Subject: Re: Rexx parse using period as placeholder
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 8:59 AM David Crayford wrote:
> You are being pedantic, but that's ok.
>
> I have found (from my co-workers especially) that most mainframe people
> of a certain vintage are not willing to learn new st
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 8:59 AM David Crayford wrote:
> You are being pedantic, but that's ok.
>
> I have found (from my co-workers especially) that most mainframe people
> of a certain vintage are not willing to learn new stuff.
> So regular expressions are off the menu when they can write logic
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I consider simple to be a single line regular expression which can
handle the parsing grammar in one hit. Now, that may not to simple to
most mainframe old timers
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I consider simple to be a single line regular expr
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Subject: Re: Rexx parse using period as placeholder
OK. Let me change the requirements again ;) How about also handl
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> Subject: Re: Rexx parse using period as placeholder
>
> OK. Let me change the requirements again ;) How about also handling
> single quotes for a fully qualified data set.
>
> Simple to do with a regex.
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OK. Let me change the requirements again ;) How
t trace rexxtry.
*/
.... REXXTRY.CMD on OS/2
say dsn mem
DSNAME MEMBER
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Sri,
Sir this is great..
Scott
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:53 AM Sri h Kolusu wrote:
> >The input could have a blank delimited string containing an embedded
> period before the one I wanted to parse out.
>
> Even though this is a rexx topic, DFSORT has rich parsing facility that can
> parse the
>The input could have a blank delimited string containing an embedded
period before the one I wanted to parse out.
Even though this is a rexx topic, DFSORT has rich parsing facility that can
parse the strings with ease.
//STEP0100 EXEC PGM=SORT
//SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=*
//SORTIN DD *
WORD1 WORD2 9
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