Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-13 Thread Bruce Hewson
We run with multiple maintenance levels, and clone to active environments as required. 1. multiple GLOBAL zones - one per product subsystem, some for specific vendors, and others as required. 2. each global zone has multiple target/dlib sets. 3. multiple maintenance target/dlib sets, with a uni

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-12 Thread Brian Westerman
I honestly had never considered doing it this way (build one environment and then clone the updated copies), I always cloned and then updated that clone, but it makes sense that this would work just as well. It might even be more effective, although I my way has the advantage of being able to f

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-12 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
On 6/11/2020 11:38 AM, Bill Giannelli wrote: I want to setup separate SMPe environments, say 3 for different maintenance levels. One matching production then 2 others for maintenance levels "coming next". My question is, when I what to update my PROD environment with one of the other maintenanc

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Brian Westerman
ymour J.) Metz >http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of >Bill Giannelli [billgianne...@gmail.com] >Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 11:38 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Separate SMPe

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Allan Staller [allan.stal...@hcl.com] Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 2:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels You still end up with a major syncing problem using e

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bill Giannelli [billgianne...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 12:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bill Giannelli [billgianne...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 3:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels So this is for DB2 software. Distribution librarie

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Bill Giannelli
So this is for DB2 software. Distribution libraries are *.AD* Target libraries are *.SD*. So I would create a second target zone a define datasets and DDDEFs for say "*.target2.SD*" ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archiv

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Allan Staller
ould like. HTH, -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Giannelli Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 11:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you tr

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Allan Staller
Bill Giannelli Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 10:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you trust the sender, Don’t click links or open attachments as it may be a Phishing email, whic

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 11:40:47 -0500, Bill Giannelli wrote: >So I've been reviewing the options you all have so kindly shares zonecopy, >zonemerge, zoneexportand it seems obvious you need to be careful of the >DDDEFs and renaming of datasets. If not careful you can really screw up and >overla

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Gibney, Dave
f Of Bill Giannelli > Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 9:41 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels > > So I've been reviewing the options you all have so kindly shares zonecopy, > zonemerge, zoneexportand it seems obvious

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Bill Giannelli
So I've been reviewing the options you all have so kindly shares zonecopy, zonemerge, zoneexportand it seems obvious you need to be careful of the DDDEFs and renaming of datasets. If not careful you can really screw up and overlay one environment. While simplistic and perhaps slightly more w

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels I do a similar process. One global zone for a z/os ver.rel, a "maintenance zone", and then a target zone that matches every active SYSRES in my environment. One DLIB zone.Maintenance is only actively appl

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Jousma, David
t Paris Ave, SE  |  MD RSCB2H  |  Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429  |  fax: 616.653.2717 From: "Bill Giannelli" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 10:38:23 AM Subject: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels I want to setup separate SMPe envi

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
our J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bill Giannelli [billgianne...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 11:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Separate SMPe environ

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Carmen Vitullo
11, 2020 10:38:23 AM Subject: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels I want to setup separate SMPe environments, say 3 for different maintenance levels. One matching production then 2 others for maintenance levels "coming next". My question is, when I what to update my PRO

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread David Spiegel
SMP/e ZONECOPY, UCLIN (to fix the DDDEFs), DFSMSDss to COPY and RENAME the Datasets On 2020-06-11 11:38, Bill Giannelli wrote: I want to setup separate SMPe environments, say 3 for different maintenance levels. One matching production then 2 others for maintenance levels "coming next". My ques

Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Bill Giannelli
I want to setup separate SMPe environments, say 3 for different maintenance levels. One matching production then 2 others for maintenance levels "coming next". My question is, when I what to update my PROD environment with one of the other maintenance levels, do I need to go thru receive, apply,