Re: Slow storage creep in SYSTEM.SYSSTC

2015-05-27 Thread Martin Packer
/MartinPacker From: Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 27/05/2015 04:30 Subject:Re: Slow storage creep in SYSTEM.SYSSTC Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Tue, 26 May 2015 23:25:42 +, Gibney, David wrote

Re: Slow storage creep in SYSTEM.SYSSTC

2015-05-27 Thread Greg Shirey
] On Behalf Of Gibney, David Allen,Jr Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 6:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Slow storage creep in SYSTEM.SYSSTC We just had a zPCR study. There weren't any real surprises, but the Workload CS Samples for my production Lpar shows a very slow creep

Re: Slow storage creep in SYSTEM.SYSSTC

2015-05-27 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Greg Shirey Sent: 27 May, 2015 15:47 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Slow storage creep in SYSTEM.SYSSTC Sure. The sysprogs wanted to try and be sure they could get into the system in times of stress. We run a single LPAR on a machine with two processors, so CICS

Re: Slow storage creep in SYSTEM.SYSSTC

2015-05-27 Thread Greg Shirey
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Slow storage creep in SYSTEM.SYSSTC Greg Shirey wrote: We put the systems programmers' TSO sessions there, for instance. TSO sessions not at TSOHOT, TSOHI, TSOMD, TSOLOW, etc.? Hmmm? Just curious, if you don't mind please

Re: Slow storage creep in SYSTEM.SYSSTC

2015-05-27 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Gibney, David Allen,Jr Sent: 27 May, 2015 1:26 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Slow storage creep in SYSTEM.SYSSTC We just had a zPCR study. There weren't any real surprises, but the Workload CS Samples for my production Lpar shows a very slow creep

Re: Slow storage creep in SYSTEM.SYSSTC

2015-05-27 Thread Martin Packer
(er). Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Gibney, David Allen,Jr Sent: 27 May, 2015 1:26 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Slow storage creep in SYSTEM.SYSSTC We just had a zPCR study. There weren't any real

Re: Slow storage creep in SYSTEM.SYSSTC

2015-05-27 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Wed, 27 May 2015 13:51:23 +, Vernooij, CP wrote: It is very tempting for sysprogs to give themselves absolute performance, just because they can, not because they need it. True 'nuff. As I don't live in any site, I try to placate the troops. When I need to get in and fix things, I get

Re: Slow storage creep in SYSTEM.SYSSTC

2015-05-27 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Martin Packer Sent: 27 May, 2015 15:21 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Slow storage creep in SYSTEM.SYSSTC I wouldn't use a command but rather proper regular timestamped information - to get the behaviour. That would be 72-3 for suitably-coded report

Re: Slow storage creep in SYSTEM.SYSSTC

2015-05-27 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Greg Shirey wrote: Sure. The sysprogs wanted to try and be sure they could get into the system in times of stress. We run a single LPAR on a machine with two processors, so CICS (our loved one) in a loop can monopolize one and leave the other struggling to service the remaining workloads.

Re: Slow storage creep in SYSTEM.SYSSTC

2015-05-27 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Greg Shirey wrote: Just a note - perhaps you haven't at your shop, but you can add to the SYSSTC service class. Good suggestion. We put the systems programmers' TSO sessions there, for instance. TSO sessions not at TSOHOT, TSOHI, TSOMD, TSOLOW, etc.? Hmmm? Just curious, if you don't mind

Re: Slow storage creep in SYSTEM.SYSSTC

2015-05-27 Thread Gibney, David Allen,Jr
, May 26, 2015 8:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Slow storage creep in SYSTEM.SYSSTC On Tue, 26 May 2015 23:25:42 +, Gibney, David wrote: ... I neither have nor really can control what falls into SYSSTC. It's all z/OS. You can, and probably should at least look at some

Re: Slow storage creep in SYSTEM.SYSSTC

2015-05-26 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Tue, 26 May 2015 23:25:42 +, Gibney, David wrote: ... I neither have nor really can control what falls into SYSSTC. It's all z/OS. You can, and probably should at least look at some of your heavy hitters. Just tossing it out here for thought on identifying the guilty software? Grab a

Slow storage creep in SYSTEM.SYSSTC

2015-05-26 Thread Gibney, David Allen,Jr
We just had a zPCR study. There weren't any real surprises, but the Workload CS Samples for my production Lpar shows a very slow creep in the SYSTEM.SYSSTC workload. I am z/OS 1.13 at RSU1408. As far as I know, I neither have nor really can control what falls into SYSSTC. It's all z/OS. I