Re: J line command was: TSO temp dataset

[Pommier, Rex]

Thanks, Kolusu!

That was it.  I haven't thought about PACK for so long that it never crossed my 
mind.  I thought I had PACK OFF in everything because I've seen it cause issues 
in the past.

Rex

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Sri h Kolusu
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 5:28 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: J line command was: TSO temp dataset

Pommier Rex,

Check if you have PACK ON in your Profile.

I can replicate your JCL error if the member has PACK ON and I get a JCL
error.

TYPE PACK OFF while editing the member and save it then try the J command

Thanks,
Kolusu

IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on
02/15/2018 03:39:41 PM:

> From: "Pommier, Rex" 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date: 02/15/2018 03:40 PM
> Subject: J line command was: TSO temp dataset
> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
>
> Subject change due to topic drift.
>
> I don't know what I'm doing wrong.  z/OS 2.2.  My PDS member looks like
this:
>
>

> EDIT   RRP.JCL(I) - 01.04
Columns
> Command ===>
Scro
> ** * Top of Data
*
> 01 //RRPB JOB (040423,495),RRP,CLASS=T,MSGCLASS=X,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),

> 02 // NOTIFY=&SYSUID

> 03 //STEP001 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14

>
> Backing out to the member list:
>
> DSLISTRRP.JCL
> Command ===>
>Name Prompt   Size   Created
> j I 3  2018/02/15
>
>
> when I hit enter, I get this:
>
> IKJ56700A ENTER JOBNAME CHARACTER(S) -
>
>
> And I put in a random character (like Z) and get this:
>
> IKJ56250I JOB RRPZ(JOB02979) SUBMITTED
> 16.35.54 JOB02979 $HASP165 RRPZ ENDED AT MVSJES2 - JCL ERROR CN
> (INTERNAL)
>
> And my output looks like this:
>
> J E S 2  J O B  L O G  --  S Y S T E M  Z O S 1
> --  N O D E  M V S J E S 2
>

> 16.35.54 JOB02979  THURSDAY,  15 FEB 2018 

> 16.35.54 JOB02979  IRR010I  USERID RRP  IS ASSIGNED TO THIS JOB.

> 16.35.54 JOB02979  IEFC452I RRPZ - JOB NOT RUN - JCL ERROR  478

> -- JES2 JOB STATISTICS --

> 6 CARDS READ

>20 SYSOUT PRINT RECORDS

> 0 SYSOUT PUNCH RECORDS

> 1 SYSOUT SPOOL KBYTES

>  0.00 MINUTES EXECUTION TIME

> FILE>RRP.RRPZ.JOB02979.D003.JESJCL,2018.046,16:
> 36:03:211 //RRPZ  JOB 3331,
> JOB02979
>   // RRP,   **JOB STATEMENT GENERATED BY
> SUBMIT**
>   // NOTIFY=RRP,

>   // MSGLEVEL=(1,1)

> 2 //SYSIN DD *   GENERATED STATEMENT

> FILE>   RRP.RRPZ.JOB02979.D004.JESYSMSG,2018.046,16:
> 36:03:21STMT NO. MESSAGE

> 2 IEFC019I MISPLACED DD STATEMENT

> 2 IEFC607I JOB HAS NO STEPS

>
>
> I have no idea what it's submitting besides nothing, but it
> definitely isn't what I put a "J" in front of.  Ideas?
>
> Rex
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> ] On Behalf Of Sri h Kolusu
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 3:36 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: TSO temp dataset
>
> >>Am I looking in the wrong place?
>
> Gil,
>
> You need to look in ISPF User's guide Vol 1 under the section "Library
and
> data set list utility line commands"
>
> https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/
> com.ibm.zos.v2r1.f54ug00/bdpr.htm
>
>
> Thanks,
> Kolusu
>
> 
>
> The information contained in this message is confidential, protected
> from disclosure and may be legally privileged.  If the reader of
> this message is not the intended recipient or an employee or agent
> responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient,
> you are hereby notified that any disclosure, distribution, copying,
> or any action taken or action omitted in reliance on it, is strictly
> prohibited and may be unlawful.  If you have received this
> communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to
> this message and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in
> electronic or hard copy format.  Thank you.
>
> --
> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
>

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send ema

Re: TSO temp dataset

[Ron hawkins]

Elardus,

Thanks for the correction.

I had read your reply, but the thread at that stage sounded to me like zSECURE 
built the JCL, and then the OP manually submitted it.

I see that was incorrect, and we're just rehashing your original advice.

Ron



-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Elardus Engelbrecht
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 10:06 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] TSO temp dataset

Ron Hawkins wrote:

>We're talking about the temp dataset that ISPF==>EDIT==>SUB command creates 
>before copying to INTRDR.

Correct, but actually, in this specific thread, it is about how the allocation 
is done by zSecure and how to fix it.

zSecure has its own version of Submit running REXX programs to do the 
allocations which I have described earlier in this thread.

The OP has asked on RACF-L how to delete 200 000 ids (yes, one fifth of 1 
million) and now asking space related question on IBM-MAIN.

That is a lot of ids and he got the advice to split that job in parts. Perhaps 
this is why he has trouble submitting his extrememly large jobs.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to 
lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[Elardus Engelbrecht]

Ron Hawkins wrote:

>We're talking about the temp dataset that ISPF==>EDIT==>SUB command creates 
>before copying to INTRDR.

Correct, but actually, in this specific thread, it is about how the allocation 
is done by zSecure and how to fix it.

zSecure has its own version of Submit running REXX programs to do the 
allocations which I have described earlier in this thread.

The OP has asked on RACF-L how to delete 200 000 ids (yes, one fifth of 1 
million) and now asking space related question on IBM-MAIN.

That is a lot of ids and he got the advice to split that job in parts. Perhaps 
this is why he has trouble submitting his extrememly large jobs.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[Ron hawkins]

We're talking about the temp dataset that ISPF==>EDIT==>SUB command creates 
before copying to INTRDR.

I think you're talking about the temp data sets in the submitted JCL. Not the 
same thing.

Ron

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of CM Poncelet
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 7:33 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] TSO temp dataset

Not sure whether I fully understand the problem here, but anyways.
 
You can override the number of extents that can be allocated to your temp 
dataset(s) by specifying the maximum number of volsers to use - in which case 
*each* volume will be allocated up to 16 extents, e.g.
   SPACE=(CYL,(50,50),RLSE),VOL=(,,,60)
will allocate up to 960 (16*60) extents of up to 50 CYLs each on up to
60 DASD volumes (if available), hence with total up to ~ 48,000 CYLs.
So, just edit and fix whatever JCL is submitted by zSECURE to specify something 
like the above SPACE= etc. to avoid your "temp dataset keeps on running out of 
space".
 
HTH CP (retired sysprog)
 


On 15/02/2018 15:05, Nai, Dean wrote:
> I'll look into this...thanks everyone.
>
>
> Dean Nai  
> Senior z/OS Systems Programmer
> Mainframe Technical Support Group 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2/15/18, 9:54 AM, "IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Elardus 
> Engelbrecht"  elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote:
>
>> Nai, Dean wrote:
>>
>>> The problem is it gets submitted by a RACF product called zSECURE so I have 
>>> no control over it. I just generate the commands it uses and then tell it 
>>> to submit a job.
>> In that case, check in zSecure option SE.0 that 'TSO SUBMIT' is not used.
>>
>> Also check SCKRCLIB(CKRESUB) these line:
>>
>> "SELECT CMD(ALLOC FI(CKRSUBMI) DA('"workdsn"') SPACE(1 1)",
>>
>> Alternatively, ask the zSecure people at this forum:
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ibm.com_deve
>> loperworks_community_forums_html_forum-3Fid-3D-2D-2D-
>> 2D-2D1255-26ps-3D25&d=DwIFaQ&c=vYl7KJMDeuM7F-Nqf_hfailBif
>> Pmyspo7hrJGlNN7nU&r=Jrkg6Kqkg1RuQHbN9OpjcGoj051_POke_QQnGwsdEE8&m=4Ks
>> cBsAZd4S4EFZOvTbHS3ReZISbdRqbiyFZRC9S3Tc&s=cr5PL6vbpTc4A74zB-ENCxaD2a
>> d79aSSBXbUWJ-1SAk&e=
>>
>> HTH!
>>
>> Groete / Greetings
>> Elardus Engelbrecht
>>
>> -
>> - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, 
>> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO 
>> IBM-MAIN
> --
> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send 
> email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN


--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to 
lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[CM Poncelet]

Not sure whether I fully understand the problem here, but anyways.
 
You can override the number of extents that can be allocated to your
temp dataset(s) by specifying the maximum number of volsers to use - in
which case *each* volume will be allocated up to 16 extents, e.g.
   SPACE=(CYL,(50,50),RLSE),VOL=(,,,60)
will allocate up to 960 (16*60) extents of up to 50 CYLs each on up to
60 DASD volumes (if available), hence with total up to ~ 48,000 CYLs.
So, just edit and fix whatever JCL is submitted by zSECURE to specify
something like the above SPACE= etc. to avoid your "temp dataset keeps
on running out of space".
 
HTH CP (retired sysprog)
 


On 15/02/2018 15:05, Nai, Dean wrote:
> I'll look into this...thanks everyone.
>
>
> Dean Nai  
> Senior z/OS Systems Programmer
> Mainframe Technical Support Group 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2/15/18, 9:54 AM, "IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Elardus 
> Engelbrecht"  elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote:
>
>> Nai, Dean wrote:
>>
>>> The problem is it gets submitted by a RACF product called zSECURE so I have 
>>> no control over it. I just generate the commands it uses and then tell it 
>>> to submit a job.
>> In that case, check in zSecure option SE.0 that 'TSO SUBMIT' is not used.
>>
>> Also check SCKRCLIB(CKRESUB) these line:
>>
>> "SELECT CMD(ALLOC FI(CKRSUBMI) DA('"workdsn"') SPACE(1 1)", 
>>
>> Alternatively, ask the zSecure people at this forum:
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ibm.com_developerworks_community_forums_html_forum-3Fid-3D-2D-2D-2D-2D1255-26ps-3D25&d=DwIFaQ&c=vYl7KJMDeuM7F-Nqf_hfailBifPmyspo7hrJGlNN7nU&r=Jrkg6Kqkg1RuQHbN9OpjcGoj051_POke_QQnGwsdEE8&m=4KscBsAZd4S4EFZOvTbHS3ReZISbdRqbiyFZRC9S3Tc&s=cr5PL6vbpTc4A74zB-ENCxaD2ad79aSSBXbUWJ-1SAk&e=
>>
>> HTH!
>>
>> Groete / Greetings
>> Elardus Engelbrecht
>>
>> --
>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
>> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
> --
> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN


--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[John McKown]

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 8:01 AM, Nai, Dean  wrote:

> When you submit a job through TSO your temp dataset gets created. I'm
> trying to submit a big job and my temp dataset keeps on running out of
> space. Any way of increasing the size of itthanks
>
>
> Dean Nai
> Senior z/OS Systems Programmer
> Mainframe Technical Support Group
>

​The information you need is here:
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.f54pc00/isppcpitds.htm

in particular note:

//* ISPCTL0 is a special case, used only by Edit for the Submit
//* command.



Now reading the above, I would try to increase the size by issuing the
following TSO commands from ISPF option 6

FREE DDN(ISPCTL0)
ALLOC DDN(ISPCTL0) SPACE(5,5) CYL RECFM(F B) LRECL(80) BLKSIZE(0)

Hopefully the above is what your zSecure process is using to do the SUBMIT.


-- 
I have a theory that it's impossible to prove anything, but I can't prove
it.

Maranatha! <><
John McKown

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: J line command was: TSO temp dataset

[Tom Conley]

On 2/15/2018 8:43 PM, Charles Mills wrote:

How is ISPF packed data compressed? Is it simple run length encoding? Couldn't 
some clever soul write some sort of generalized un-PACK command or utility 
program that could somehow front-end other commands? Use pipes or a 
behind-the-scenes temporary dataset or ... ?

Yeah, I know, wrong place in the stack. I'm not a DFSMS guy. What does PACK do 
for you that dataset compression does not? Do we really need ISPF-level 
compression when we have system-level compression?

Hmmm. Am I reading this right? Compressed implies extended-format and PDSE does 
not support extended-format? That's ... um, unfortunate.

Charles


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 5:02 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: J line command was: TSO temp dataset

On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 00:32:53 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:


Nice catch! I never considered the effect of PACK. The reason why ISPF 
allocates and copies to a separate data set is that the JCL on the screen does 
not necessarily match the current physical content on disk. The JCL may not 
have been saved yet (or ever), or !aha! it may be PACKed on disk. TSO SUBMIT 
and apparently the J command read the disk copy directly to the internal 
reader, so PACKed records are just garbage. I do not PACK my data, so J worked 
fine for me.



This is a bug, not a feature.  Please open a PMR to report that the J 
line command does not handle packed data.


Regards,
Tom Conley

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: J line command was: TSO temp dataset

[Charles Mills]

How is ISPF packed data compressed? Is it simple run length encoding? Couldn't 
some clever soul write some sort of generalized un-PACK command or utility 
program that could somehow front-end other commands? Use pipes or a 
behind-the-scenes temporary dataset or ... ?

Yeah, I know, wrong place in the stack. I'm not a DFSMS guy. What does PACK do 
for you that dataset compression does not? Do we really need ISPF-level 
compression when we have system-level compression?

Hmmm. Am I reading this right? Compressed implies extended-format and PDSE does 
not support extended-format? That's ... um, unfortunate.

Charles


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 5:02 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: J line command was: TSO temp dataset

On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 00:32:53 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:

>Nice catch! I never considered the effect of PACK. The reason why ISPF 
>allocates and copies to a separate data set is that the JCL on the screen does 
>not necessarily match the current physical content on disk. The JCL may not 
>have been saved yet (or ever), or !aha! it may be PACKed on disk. TSO SUBMIT 
>and apparently the J command read the disk copy directly to the internal 
>reader, so PACKed records are just garbage. I do not PACK my data, so J worked 
>fine for me. 
> 
How modular is the un-PACK code?  Wouldn't it be reasonable for J to recognize 
PACKed data as other functions do (how?) and un-PACK it on-the-fly while 
passing it to INTRDR?

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: J line command was: TSO temp dataset

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 00:32:53 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:

>Nice catch! I never considered the effect of PACK. The reason why ISPF 
>allocates and copies to a separate data set is that the JCL on the screen does 
>not necessarily match the current physical content on disk. The JCL may not 
>have been saved yet (or ever), or !aha! it may be PACKed on disk. TSO SUBMIT 
>and apparently the J command read the disk copy directly to the internal 
>reader, so PACKed records are just garbage. I do not PACK my data, so J worked 
>fine for me. 
> 
How modular is the un-PACK code?  Wouldn't it be reasonable for J to recognize 
PACKed
data as other functions do (how?) and un-PACK it on-the-fly while passing it to 
INTRDR?

-- gil

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: J line command was: TSO temp dataset

[Jesse 1 Robinson]

Nice catch! I never considered the effect of PACK. The reason why ISPF 
allocates and copies to a separate data set is that the JCL on the screen does 
not necessarily match the current physical content on disk. The JCL may not 
have been saved yet (or ever), or !aha! it may be PACKed on disk. TSO SUBMIT 
and apparently the J command read the disk copy directly to the internal 
reader, so PACKed records are just garbage. I do not PACK my data, so J worked 
fine for me. 

.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW
robin...@sce.com


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 3:43 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: J line command was: TSO temp dataset

On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 16:27:35 -0700, Sri h Kolusu wrote:
>
>Check if you have PACK ON in your Profile.
>
>I can replicate your JCL error if the member has PACK ON and I get a 
>JCL error.
>
>TYPE PACK OFF while editing the member and save it then try the J 
>command
> 
PACK is a recurrent source of errors; a manifest misdesign.  PACK should be 
more transparent -- it should be done in the access method, not at any higher 
stratum, so all utilities could exploit it.

-- gil


--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: J line command was: TSO temp dataset

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 16:27:35 -0700, Sri h Kolusu wrote:
>
>Check if you have PACK ON in your Profile.
>
>I can replicate your JCL error if the member has PACK ON and I get a JCL
>error.
>
>TYPE PACK OFF while editing the member and save it then try the J command
> 
PACK is a recurrent source of errors; a manifest misdesign.  PACK should be
more transparent -- it should be done in the access method, not at any higher
stratum, so all utilities could exploit it.

-- gil

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: J line command was: TSO temp dataset

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 14:35:52 -0700, Sri h Kolusu wrote:
>
>You need to look in ISPF User's guide Vol 1 under the section "Library and
>data set list utility line commands"
>
>https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.f54ug00/bdpr.htm
> 
RCF submitted.  It's unconscionable that command lists should appear in
multiple places with different content.

The right way to do that is to maintain the list in one place and hyperlink to 
it
from the other(s).

The panel is mentioned in the "Summary of changs" but "J" does not appear
to be new.

o Does "J" write directly to INTRDR, avoiding the SPACE constraint?

o Does it prompt for a jobname character?

o Does it relieve the antiquated FB-80 restriction.

o Is it available for UNIX directory members?

-- gil

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: J line command was: TSO temp dataset

[Sri h Kolusu]

Pommier Rex,

Check if you have PACK ON in your Profile.

I can replicate your JCL error if the member has PACK ON and I get a JCL
error.

TYPE PACK OFF while editing the member and save it then try the J command

Thanks,
Kolusu

IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on
02/15/2018 03:39:41 PM:

> From: "Pommier, Rex" 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date: 02/15/2018 03:40 PM
> Subject: J line command was: TSO temp dataset
> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
>
> Subject change due to topic drift.
>
> I don't know what I'm doing wrong.  z/OS 2.2.  My PDS member looks like
this:
>
>

> EDIT   RRP.JCL(I) - 01.04
Columns
> Command ===>
Scro
> ** * Top of Data
*
> 01 //RRPB JOB (040423,495),RRP,CLASS=T,MSGCLASS=X,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),

> 02 // NOTIFY=&SYSUID

> 03 //STEP001 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14

>
> Backing out to the member list:
>
> DSLISTRRP.JCL
> Command ===>
>Name Prompt   Size   Created
> j I 3  2018/02/15
>
>
> when I hit enter, I get this:
>
> IKJ56700A ENTER JOBNAME CHARACTER(S) -
>
>
> And I put in a random character (like Z) and get this:
>
> IKJ56250I JOB RRPZ(JOB02979) SUBMITTED
> 16.35.54 JOB02979 $HASP165 RRPZ ENDED AT MVSJES2 - JCL ERROR CN
> (INTERNAL)
>
> And my output looks like this:
>
> J E S 2  J O B  L O G  --  S Y S T E M  Z O S 1
> --  N O D E  M V S J E S 2
>

> 16.35.54 JOB02979  THURSDAY,  15 FEB 2018 

> 16.35.54 JOB02979  IRR010I  USERID RRP  IS ASSIGNED TO THIS JOB.

> 16.35.54 JOB02979  IEFC452I RRPZ - JOB NOT RUN - JCL ERROR  478

> -- JES2 JOB STATISTICS --

> 6 CARDS READ

>20 SYSOUT PRINT RECORDS

> 0 SYSOUT PUNCH RECORDS

> 1 SYSOUT SPOOL KBYTES

>  0.00 MINUTES EXECUTION TIME

> FILE>RRP.RRPZ.JOB02979.D003.JESJCL,2018.046,16:
> 36:03:211 //RRPZ  JOB 3331,
> JOB02979
>   // RRP,   **JOB STATEMENT GENERATED BY
> SUBMIT**
>   // NOTIFY=RRP,

>   // MSGLEVEL=(1,1)

> 2 //SYSIN DD *   GENERATED STATEMENT

> FILE>   RRP.RRPZ.JOB02979.D004.JESYSMSG,2018.046,16:
> 36:03:21STMT NO. MESSAGE

> 2 IEFC019I MISPLACED DD STATEMENT

> 2 IEFC607I JOB HAS NO STEPS

>
>
> I have no idea what it's submitting besides nothing, but it
> definitely isn't what I put a "J" in front of.  Ideas?
>
> Rex
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> ] On Behalf Of Sri h Kolusu
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 3:36 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: TSO temp dataset
>
> >>Am I looking in the wrong place?
>
> Gil,
>
> You need to look in ISPF User's guide Vol 1 under the section "Library
and
> data set list utility line commands"
>
> https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/
> com.ibm.zos.v2r1.f54ug00/bdpr.htm
>
>
> Thanks,
> Kolusu
>
> 
>
> The information contained in this message is confidential, protected
> from disclosure and may be legally privileged.  If the reader of
> this message is not the intended recipient or an employee or agent
> responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient,
> you are hereby notified that any disclosure, distribution, copying,
> or any action taken or action omitted in reliance on it, is strictly
> prohibited and may be unlawful.  If you have received this
> communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to
> this message and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in
> electronic or hard copy format.  Thank you.
>
> --
> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
>

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: J line command was: TSO temp dataset

[Jesse 1 Robinson]

I don't ever remember using J line command before now, but it seems to work 
exactly right for me. It looks as if J is not recognizing your job card and 
cooking one up on the fly.

What happens if you enter SUBMIT as a TSO command against the same member? 

.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW
robin...@sce.com


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Pommier, Rex
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 2:40 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):J line command was: TSO temp dataset

Subject change due to topic drift.

I don't know what I'm doing wrong.  z/OS 2.2.  My PDS member looks like this:

  
EDIT   RRP.JCL(I) - 01.04  Columns
Command ===>  Scro
** * Top of Data *
01 //RRPB JOB (040423,495),RRP,CLASS=T,MSGCLASS=X,MSGLEVEL=(1,1), 
02 // NOTIFY=&SYSUID  
03 //STEP001 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 

Backing out to the member list:

DSLISTRRP.JCL 
Command ===>  
   Name Prompt   Size   Created   
j I 3  2018/02/15


when I hit enter, I get this:

IKJ56700A ENTER JOBNAME CHARACTER(S) -


And I put in a random character (like Z) and get this:

IKJ56250I JOB RRPZ(JOB02979) SUBMITTED
16.35.54 JOB02979 $HASP165 RRPZ ENDED AT MVSJES2 - JCL ERROR CN(INTERNAL)   

And my output looks like this:

J E S 2  J O B  L O G  --  S Y S T E M  Z O S 1  --  N O D 
E  M V S J E S 2  

 
16.35.54 JOB02979  THURSDAY,  15 FEB 2018   
 
16.35.54 JOB02979  IRR010I  USERID RRP  IS ASSIGNED TO THIS JOB.
 
16.35.54 JOB02979  IEFC452I RRPZ - JOB NOT RUN - JCL ERROR  478 
 
-- JES2 JOB STATISTICS --   
 
6 CARDS READ
 
   20 SYSOUT PRINT RECORDS  
 
0 SYSOUT PUNCH RECORDS  
 
1 SYSOUT SPOOL KBYTES   
 
 0.00 MINUTES EXECUTION TIME
 
FILE>RRP.RRPZ.JOB02979.D003.JESJCL,2018.046,16:36:03:21 
 RRP.RRPZ.JOB02979.D004.JESYSMSG,2018.046,16:36:03:21
  mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Sri h Kolusu
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 3:36 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: TSO temp dataset

>>Am I looking in the wrong place?

Gil,

You need to look in ISPF User's guide Vol 1 under the section "Library and data 
set list utility line commands"

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.f54ug00/bdpr.htm


Thanks,
Kolusu



The information contained in this message is confidential, protected from 
disclosure and may be legally privileged.  If the reader of this message is not 
the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this 
message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, 
distribution, copying, or any action taken or action omitted in reliance on it, 
is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful.  If you have received this 
communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this 
message and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard 
copy format.  Thank you.

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to 
lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN


--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

J line command was: TSO temp dataset

[Pommier, Rex]

Subject change due to topic drift.

I don't know what I'm doing wrong.  z/OS 2.2.  My PDS member looks like this:

  
EDIT   RRP.JCL(I) - 01.04  Columns
Command ===>  Scro
** * Top of Data *
01 //RRPB JOB (040423,495),RRP,CLASS=T,MSGCLASS=X,MSGLEVEL=(1,1), 
02 // NOTIFY=&SYSUID  
03 //STEP001 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 

Backing out to the member list:

DSLISTRRP.JCL 
Command ===>  
   Name Prompt   Size   Created   
j I 3  2018/02/15


when I hit enter, I get this:

IKJ56700A ENTER JOBNAME CHARACTER(S) -


And I put in a random character (like Z) and get this:

IKJ56250I JOB RRPZ(JOB02979) SUBMITTED
16.35.54 JOB02979 $HASP165 RRPZ ENDED AT MVSJES2 - JCL ERROR CN(INTERNAL)   

And my output looks like this:

J E S 2  J O B  L O G  --  S Y S T E M  Z O S 1  --  N O D 
E  M V S J E S 2  

 
16.35.54 JOB02979  THURSDAY,  15 FEB 2018   
 
16.35.54 JOB02979  IRR010I  USERID RRP  IS ASSIGNED TO THIS JOB.
 
16.35.54 JOB02979  IEFC452I RRPZ - JOB NOT RUN - JCL ERROR  478 
 
-- JES2 JOB STATISTICS --   
 
6 CARDS READ
 
   20 SYSOUT PRINT RECORDS  
 
0 SYSOUT PUNCH RECORDS  
 
1 SYSOUT SPOOL KBYTES   
 
 0.00 MINUTES EXECUTION TIME
 
FILE>RRP.RRPZ.JOB02979.D003.JESJCL,2018.046,16:36:03:21 
 RRP.RRPZ.JOB02979.D004.JESYSMSG,2018.046,16:36:03:21
  mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Sri h Kolusu
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 3:36 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: TSO temp dataset

>>Am I looking in the wrong place?

Gil,

You need to look in ISPF User's guide Vol 1 under the section "Library and
data set list utility line commands"

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.f54ug00/bdpr.htm


Thanks,
Kolusu



The information contained in this message is confidential, protected from 
disclosure and may be legally privileged.  If the reader of this message is not 
the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this 
message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, 
distribution, copying, or any action taken or action omitted in reliance on it, 
is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful.  If you have received this 
communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this 
message and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard 
copy format.  Thank you.

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[Sri h Kolusu]

>>Am I looking in the wrong place?

Gil,

You need to look in ISPF User's guide Vol 1 under the section "Library and
data set list utility line commands"

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.f54ug00/bdpr.htm


Thanks,
Kolusu

IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on
02/15/2018 01:58:11 PM:

> From: Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date: 02/15/2018 01:58 PM
> Subject: Re: TSO temp dataset
> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
>
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 20:33:57 +, PINION, RICHARD W. wrote:
>
> >J works from ISPF member list.  Might even work for sequential data
> sets from ISPF 3.4.
> >
> In:  z/OS IBM ISPF User's Guide Volume II Version 2 Release 3
> SC19-3628-30
>  Chapter 5. Utilities (option 3)
> Data set list utility (option 3.4)
> Data set list utility line commands
> ... I see no such line command.
>
> Similarly absent from:
> Library utility (option 3.1)
> Library utility options for members
>
> Am I looking in the wrong place?
>
> Is it a local mod?
>
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Gord Tomlin
> >Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 3:28 PM
> >
> >IKJ56500I COMMAND J NOT FOUND
> >***
> >
> >Apparently neither has TSO.
>
> -- gil
>
> --
> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
>

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[Don Poitras]

It's at:

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.f54ug00/bdpr.htm?view=kc

In article <1392861559270957.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu> you wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 20:33:57 +, PINION, RICHARD W. wrote:

> >J works from ISPF member list.  Might even work for sequential data sets 
> >from ISPF 3.4.
> >
> In:  z/OS IBM ISPF User's Guide Volume II Version 2 Release 3 
> SC19-3628-30
>  Chapter 5. Utilities (option 3)
> Data set list utility (option 3.4)
> Data set list utility line commands
> ... I see no such line command.

> Similarly absent from:
> Library utility (option 3.1)
> Library utility options for members
> Am I looking in the wrong place?
> Is it a local mod?
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Gord Tomlin
> >Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 3:28 PM
> >
> >IKJ56500I COMMAND J NOT FOUND
> >***
> >
> >Apparently neither has TSO.
> -- gil

-- 
Don Poitras - SAS Development  -  SAS Institute Inc. - SAS Campus Drive
sas...@sas.com   (919) 531-5637Cary, NC 27513

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[Seymour J Metz]

I prefer to read up on what's new before the install. It saves time in the long 
run. YMMV.


--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3


From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
PINION, RICHARD W. 
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 4:21 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Subject: Re: TSO temp dataset

After installing a new release of z/OS, and I'm bored and have nothing better 
to do, I go through the ISPF help panels to see what's new.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 3:58 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: TSO temp dataset

[External Email]

On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 20:33:57 +, PINION, RICHARD W. wrote:

>J works from ISPF member list.  Might even work for sequential data sets from 
>ISPF 3.4.
>
In:  z/OS IBM ISPF User's Guide Volume II Version 2 Release 3
SC19-3628-30
 Chapter 5. Utilities (option 3)
Data set list utility (option 3.4)
Data set list utility line commands ... I see no such line command.

Similarly absent from:
Library utility (option 3.1)
Library utility options for members

Am I looking in the wrong place?

Is it a local mod?

>-Original Message-
>From: Gord Tomlin
>Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 3:28 PM
>
>IKJ56500I COMMAND J NOT FOUND
>***
>
>Apparently neither has TSO.

-- gil

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to 
lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
FIRST TENNESSEE

Confidentiality notice:
This e-mail message, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged 
and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or 
the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended 
recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or 
copying of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received 
this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this 
e-mail message from your computer.


--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[PINION, RICHARD W.]

After installing a new release of z/OS, and I'm bored and have nothing better 
to do, I go through the ISPF help panels to see what's new.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 3:58 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: TSO temp dataset

[External Email]

On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 20:33:57 +, PINION, RICHARD W. wrote:

>J works from ISPF member list.  Might even work for sequential data sets from 
>ISPF 3.4.
>
In:  z/OS IBM ISPF User's Guide Volume II Version 2 Release 3
SC19-3628-30
 Chapter 5. Utilities (option 3)
Data set list utility (option 3.4)
Data set list utility line commands ... I see no such line command.

Similarly absent from:
Library utility (option 3.1)
Library utility options for members

Am I looking in the wrong place?

Is it a local mod?

>-Original Message-
>From: Gord Tomlin
>Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 3:28 PM
>
>IKJ56500I COMMAND J NOT FOUND
>***
>
>Apparently neither has TSO.

-- gil

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to 
lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
FIRST TENNESSEE

Confidentiality notice: 
This e-mail message, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged 
and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or 
the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended 
recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or 
copying of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received 
this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this 
e-mail message from your computer.


--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[Gord Tomlin]

On 2018-02-15 15:33, PINION, RICHARD W. wrote:

J works from ISPF member list.  Might even work for sequential data sets from 
ISPF 3.4.


I stand [partially] corrected.

Line command J is recognized and performs a submit in a ISPF 3.1 member 
list.


Line command J is recognized and performs a submit in a member list
generated by using the M line command in a ISPF 3.4 data set list.

Line command J is not recognized in a ISPF 1 or 2 member list.

Line command J is not recognized for a sequential data set in ISPF 3.4.

Primary command J does not appear to be valid anywhere (it wasn't clear 
from Itzchak's original reply whether J was to be invoked as a primary 
command or a line command).


Learn something every day...


--

Regards, Gord Tomlin
Action Software International
(a division of Mazda Computer Corporation)
Tel: (905) 470-7113, Fax: (905) 470-6507
Support: https://actionsoftware.com/support/

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 20:33:57 +, PINION, RICHARD W. wrote:

>J works from ISPF member list.  Might even work for sequential data sets from 
>ISPF 3.4.
>
In:  z/OS IBM ISPF User's Guide Volume II Version 2 Release 3 
SC19-3628-30
 Chapter 5. Utilities (option 3)
Data set list utility (option 3.4)
Data set list utility line commands
... I see no such line command.

Similarly absent from:
Library utility (option 3.1)
Library utility options for members

Am I looking in the wrong place?

Is it a local mod?

>-Original Message-
>From: Gord Tomlin
>Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 3:28 PM
>
>IKJ56500I COMMAND J NOT FOUND
>***
>
>Apparently neither has TSO.

-- gil

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[Seymour J Metz]

There's no reason why TSO would have head of an ISPF line command. It don't 
know whether ISPF has heard of it; it could be a local line command at 
Yitzchak's installation.


--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3


From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
Gord Tomlin 
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 3:28 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Subject: Re: TSO temp dataset

On 2018-02-15 14:51, Itschak Mugzach wrote:
> If you copy the jcl to another PDS you can use the “j” (submit) command which 
> does not use temporary dataset for job submission. Never tested myself, but 
> it probably works with sequential datasets as well.

I've never heard of this.

IKJ56500I COMMAND J NOT FOUND
***

Apparently neither has TSO.

--

Regards, Gord Tomlin
Action Software International
(a division of Mazda Computer Corporation)
Tel: (905) 470-7113, Fax: (905) 470-6507
Support: 
https://secure-web.cisco.com/1CqOrKc8AqUlr7zU5B7ZEgd2c8UgO1ZizuGPtBMjDD1ohegg-0M3cbARui2rPq1oP39rWF8nzQfkfVKuMPpHHm3ScFh1q6qXbKMxTQPgpuVh_BHvNg81xpn2ZIQLQEAZNIBQN0XsrA2Bhd6fT1jJkkPNSLdi64ymkev7TsA9Reyu3zUZ6JaYKJ5MgpXcEQUMOlSxy8sBE0_VjUWnDUAQw7uCYGyu7NAlaAMw6Cj-VyWmXL9EOIvdHQXR07cG5UjyNLXP5bVzLc8eC9pRfyoJdeXzUEKAJTibPGw7j9h1UreANAK8S8K3OqHomYR1gLe4QR8J5oaTMGnRtOdpelCs1MGXgZk0nJpCC8Xyd59JmurNkAILjkv_E8uuhR1KgCS-F/https%3A%2F%2Factionsoftware.com%2Fsupport%2F

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[Dana Mitchell]

Or from any panel command line:   TSO SUB 'dataset(member)'   


On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 12:32:48 -0700, Lizette Koehler  
wrote:

>So the problem is the ISPF Temp files not TSO.  You can use option 3.4 and 
>type SUB next to the member to submit and avoid the temp datasets
>
>Or you can have your storage admin check to see if they have any restrictions 
>on size allocation of ISPF Temp datasets.
>
>Or you could go to OPTION 6 in ISPF and enter SUB 'datasetname(member)'
>
>No need to go to ready mode
>
>Lizette
>
>

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[PINION, RICHARD W.]

J works from ISPF member list.  Might even work for sequential data sets from 
ISPF 3.4.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Gord Tomlin
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 3:28 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: TSO temp dataset

[External Email]

On 2018-02-15 14:51, Itschak Mugzach wrote:
> If you copy the jcl to another PDS you can use the “j” (submit) command which 
> does not use temporary dataset for job submission. Never tested myself, but 
> it probably works with sequential datasets as well.

I've never heard of this.

IKJ56500I COMMAND J NOT FOUND
***

Apparently neither has TSO.

--

Regards, Gord Tomlin
Action Software International
(a division of Mazda Computer Corporation)
Tel: (905) 470-7113, Fax: (905) 470-6507
Support: https://actionsoftware.com/support/

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to 
lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
FIRST TENNESSEE

Confidentiality notice: 
This e-mail message, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged 
and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or 
the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended 
recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or 
copying of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received 
this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this 
e-mail message from your computer.


--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 21:51:27 +0200, Itschak Mugzach wrote:

>If you copy the jcl to another PDS you can use the “j” (submit) command which 
>does not use temporary dataset for job submission. Never tested myself, but it 
>probably works with sequential datasets as well.
> 
Y'know, this recurrently encountered problem could go away if SUBMIT were taught
to read from a DDNAME: rather than ALLOCATEing one.  Then ISPF could BPX1PIP
into such a DDNAME with no temp data set required.

Oops!  That has active development of TSO as a precondition.

-- gil

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[Gord Tomlin]

On 2018-02-15 14:51, Itschak Mugzach wrote:

If you copy the jcl to another PDS you can use the “j” (submit) command which 
does not use temporary dataset for job submission. Never tested myself, but it 
probably works with sequential datasets as well.


I've never heard of this.

IKJ56500I COMMAND J NOT FOUND
***

Apparently neither has TSO.

--

Regards, Gord Tomlin
Action Software International
(a division of Mazda Computer Corporation)
Tel: (905) 470-7113, Fax: (905) 470-6507
Support: https://actionsoftware.com/support/

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[Itschak Mugzach]

If you copy the jcl to another PDS you can use the “j” (submit) command which 
does not use temporary dataset for job submission. Never tested myself, but it 
probably works with sequential datasets as well.

ITschak



נשלח מה-iPad שלי

‫ב-15 בפבר׳ 2018, בשעה 21:32, ‏‏Lizette Koehler ‏ 
כתב/ה:‬

> So the problem is the ISPF Temp files not TSO.  You can use option 3.4 and 
> type SUB next to the member to submit and avoid the temp datasets
> 
> Or you can have your storage admin check to see if they have any restrictions 
> on size allocation of ISPF Temp datasets.
> 
> Or you could go to OPTION 6 in ISPF and enter SUB 'datasetname(member)'
> 
> No need to go to ready mode
> 
> Lizette
> 
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
>> Behalf Of Nai, Dean
>> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 7:02 AM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: TSO temp dataset
>> 
>> When you submit a job through TSO your temp dataset gets created. I'm trying
>> to submit a big job and my temp dataset keeps on running out of space. Any
>> way of increasing the size of itthanks
>> 
>> 
>> Dean Nai
>> Senior z/OS Systems Programmer
>> Mainframe Technical Support Group
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> --
> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[Lizette Koehler]

So the problem is the ISPF Temp files not TSO.  You can use option 3.4 and type 
SUB next to the member to submit and avoid the temp datasets

Or you can have your storage admin check to see if they have any restrictions 
on size allocation of ISPF Temp datasets.

Or you could go to OPTION 6 in ISPF and enter SUB 'datasetname(member)'

No need to go to ready mode

Lizette


> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Nai, Dean
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 7:02 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: TSO temp dataset
> 
> When you submit a job through TSO your temp dataset gets created. I'm trying
> to submit a big job and my temp dataset keeps on running out of space. Any
> way of increasing the size of itthanks
> 
> 
> Dean Nai
> Senior z/OS Systems Programmer
> Mainframe Technical Support Group
> 
> 
> 

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[Wayne Bickerdike]

We use z/Secure and I generally generate the commands and after PF3, you
have the option to edit the generated commands. At this point I use the
ISPF command CUT ALL. After that I PF3 out of the z/Secure panels.

I have a separate JCL member that is used to submit z/Secure commands to
run in batch. This is so we can wrap a reason code around the commands, so
the batch procedure supplies the reason code and this forms part of our
audit procedure. PASTE ALL the generated commands into the JCL, supply
reason code and submit.

If the generated commands are huge, you can add them to a member and submit
the JCL fragment with a //SYSIN DD DSN=MY.COMMANDS etc.

It's also more efficient than submitting a huge job stream.



On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 4:50 AM, Seymour J Metz  wrote:

> If zSECURE submits the job then it's a zSECURE issue, not a TSO issue. You
> may need to contact vendor support if there's nothing in the manual.
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf
> of Nai, Dean 
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 12:23 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: TSO temp dataset
>
> Using zSECURE to create the control cards. Editing them down and then
> zSECURE needs to submit the job.
>
>
>
> Dean Nai
> Senior z/OS Systems Programmer
> Mainframe Technical Support Group
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2/15/18, 11:23 AM, "IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Seymour
> J Metz"  wrote:
>
> >What do you mean by "through TSO"? SUBMIT from the READY prompt? ISPF?
> "E, none of the above"?
> >
> >
> >--
> >Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> >https://secure-web.cisco.com/17Iw7vbGMfUJnaE7nqSGtCO1_9cwpNKHUZ6yY_
> aTFsQeWXUJqiW48deXeIlA8-p0F4BGS0yw04Wyf3qGuxqDNjZsHa_
> d0uTBcUSGRUJ0D2eu2aRJj7_PQr02sT3PvI8cKllK2InZ6xiFOZfo9_
> rEIyRgdp4py4wbEMzAQDdpmoeHG3aVX99sP7JEm4nytldkK_
> vBPNoyFTrRSbZCKERUZ5ITdXSCNGg9nPp0lfiecfiqfGBb_
> vj476VImnuFDAD026SVtAz9H6ke8kZZ3b6nDG1WyjbEcIspiOt8Gauu5Vb88
> oCaAERqDHHK1cu5zJ9U08DDqNJJ47YGTcoEuqgQ7yh3KtSA5MTpc_
> atRgMVfSgDZMlyrMklkHfGlHe-RcgxYwP_RiytXjLYMKzMP2n46z_
> uksOIc95n3Z9AfB24C_r9dOQ-RLDuGZ1m4kfqhB9gc/https%3A%2F%
> 2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__
> mason.gmu.edu_-7Esmetz3%26d%3DDwIFAw%26c%3DvYl7KJMDeuM7F-
> Nqf_hfailBifPmyspo7hrJGlNN7nU%26r%3DJrkg6Kqkg1RuQHbN9OpjcGoj051_
> POke_QQnGwsdEE8%26m%3D8lrraYUgzbHMNuD_Gxalpj0WhrV2gQ8An2qJhvV6PUc%
> 26s%3DatcTL-qNdmkQuHYCmY683fEjLPBKm3QgIxHLRMGGTBY%26e%3D
> >
> >
> >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf
> of Nai, Dean 
> >Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:01 AM
> >To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
> >Subject: TSO temp dataset
> >
> >When you submit a job through TSO your temp dataset gets created. I'm
> trying to submit a big job and my temp dataset keeps on running out of
> space. Any way of increasing the size of itthanks
> >
> >
> >Dean Nai
> >Senior z/OS Systems Programmer
> >Mainframe Technical Support Group
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >
> >--
> >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
> >send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
> >
> >--
> >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
> >send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
>
> --
> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
>
> --
> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
>



-- 
Wayne V. Bickerdike

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[Seymour J Metz]

If zSECURE submits the job then it's a zSECURE issue, not a TSO issue. You may 
need to contact vendor support if there's nothing in the manual.


--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3


From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
Nai, Dean 
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 12:23 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Subject: Re: TSO temp dataset

Using zSECURE to create the control cards. Editing them down and then zSECURE 
needs to submit the job.



Dean Nai
Senior z/OS Systems Programmer
Mainframe Technical Support Group









On 2/15/18, 11:23 AM, "IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Seymour J 
Metz"  wrote:

>What do you mean by "through TSO"? SUBMIT from the READY prompt? ISPF? "E, 
>none of the above"?
>
>
>--
>Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
>https://secure-web.cisco.com/17Iw7vbGMfUJnaE7nqSGtCO1_9cwpNKHUZ6yY_aTFsQeWXUJqiW48deXeIlA8-p0F4BGS0yw04Wyf3qGuxqDNjZsHa_d0uTBcUSGRUJ0D2eu2aRJj7_PQr02sT3PvI8cKllK2InZ6xiFOZfo9_rEIyRgdp4py4wbEMzAQDdpmoeHG3aVX99sP7JEm4nytldkK_vBPNoyFTrRSbZCKERUZ5ITdXSCNGg9nPp0lfiecfiqfGBb_vj476VImnuFDAD026SVtAz9H6ke8kZZ3b6nDG1WyjbEcIspiOt8Gauu5Vb88oCaAERqDHHK1cu5zJ9U08DDqNJJ47YGTcoEuqgQ7yh3KtSA5MTpc_atRgMVfSgDZMlyrMklkHfGlHe-RcgxYwP_RiytXjLYMKzMP2n46z_uksOIc95n3Z9AfB24C_r9dOQ-RLDuGZ1m4kfqhB9gc/https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__mason.gmu.edu_-7Esmetz3%26d%3DDwIFAw%26c%3DvYl7KJMDeuM7F-Nqf_hfailBifPmyspo7hrJGlNN7nU%26r%3DJrkg6Kqkg1RuQHbN9OpjcGoj051_POke_QQnGwsdEE8%26m%3D8lrraYUgzbHMNuD_Gxalpj0WhrV2gQ8An2qJhvV6PUc%26s%3DatcTL-qNdmkQuHYCmY683fEjLPBKm3QgIxHLRMGGTBY%26e%3D
>
>
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
>Nai, Dean 
>Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:01 AM
>To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
>Subject: TSO temp dataset
>
>When you submit a job through TSO your temp dataset gets created. I'm trying 
>to submit a big job and my temp dataset keeps on running out of space. Any way 
>of increasing the size of itthanks
>
>
>Dean Nai
>Senior z/OS Systems Programmer
>Mainframe Technical Support Group
>
>
>
>
>>
>
>--
>For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
>send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
>
>--
>For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
>send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[Nai, Dean]

Using zSECURE to create the control cards. Editing them down and then zSECURE 
needs to submit the job.



Dean Nai
Senior z/OS Systems Programmer  
Mainframe Technical Support Group   









On 2/15/18, 11:23 AM, "IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Seymour J 
Metz"  wrote:

>What do you mean by "through TSO"? SUBMIT from the READY prompt? ISPF? "E, 
>none of the above"?
>
>
>--
>Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mason.gmu.edu_-7Esmetz3&d=DwIFAw&c=vYl7KJMDeuM7F-Nqf_hfailBifPmyspo7hrJGlNN7nU&r=Jrkg6Kqkg1RuQHbN9OpjcGoj051_POke_QQnGwsdEE8&m=8lrraYUgzbHMNuD_Gxalpj0WhrV2gQ8An2qJhvV6PUc&s=atcTL-qNdmkQuHYCmY683fEjLPBKm3QgIxHLRMGGTBY&e=
>
>
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
>Nai, Dean 
>Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:01 AM
>To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
>Subject: TSO temp dataset
>
>When you submit a job through TSO your temp dataset gets created. I'm trying 
>to submit a big job and my temp dataset keeps on running out of space. Any way 
>of increasing the size of itthanks
>
>
>Dean Nai
>Senior z/OS Systems Programmer
>Mainframe Technical Support Group
>
>
>
>
>>
>
>--
>For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
>send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
>
>--
>For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
>send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[Ron hawkins]

I'm guessing the OP is referring to ISPCTLx data sets.

You can preallocate these to larger datasets in your logon PROC.

You may be able to preallocate them with REXX or CLIST before you run
zSECURE command(s). I have not tried this.

Ron


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Seymour J Metz
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:24 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] TSO temp dataset

What do you mean by "through TSO"? SUBMIT from the READY prompt? ISPF? "E,
none of the above"?


--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3


From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of
Nai, Dean 
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:01 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Subject: TSO temp dataset

When you submit a job through TSO your temp dataset gets created. I'm trying
to submit a big job and my temp dataset keeps on running out of space. Any
way of increasing the size of itthanks


Dean Nai
Senior z/OS Systems Programmer
Mainframe Technical Support Group




>

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email
to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email
to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[Seymour J Metz]

What do you mean by "through TSO"? SUBMIT from the READY prompt? ISPF? "E, none 
of the above"?


--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3


From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
Nai, Dean 
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:01 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Subject: TSO temp dataset

When you submit a job through TSO your temp dataset gets created. I'm trying to 
submit a big job and my temp dataset keeps on running out of space. Any way of 
increasing the size of itthanks


Dean Nai
Senior z/OS Systems Programmer
Mainframe Technical Support Group




>

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[Nai, Dean]

I'll look into this...thanks everyone.


Dean Nai
Senior z/OS Systems Programmer  
Mainframe Technical Support Group   








On 2/15/18, 9:54 AM, "IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Elardus 
Engelbrecht"  wrote:

>Nai, Dean wrote:
>
>>The problem is it gets submitted by a RACF product called zSECURE so I have 
>>no control over it. I just generate the commands it uses and then tell it to 
>>submit a job.
>
>In that case, check in zSecure option SE.0 that 'TSO SUBMIT' is not used.
>
>Also check SCKRCLIB(CKRESUB) these line:
>
>"SELECT CMD(ALLOC FI(CKRSUBMI) DA('"workdsn"') SPACE(1 1)", 
>
>Alternatively, ask the zSecure people at this forum:
>
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ibm.com_developerworks_community_forums_html_forum-3Fid-3D-2D-2D-2D-2D1255-26ps-3D25&d=DwIFaQ&c=vYl7KJMDeuM7F-Nqf_hfailBifPmyspo7hrJGlNN7nU&r=Jrkg6Kqkg1RuQHbN9OpjcGoj051_POke_QQnGwsdEE8&m=4KscBsAZd4S4EFZOvTbHS3ReZISbdRqbiyFZRC9S3Tc&s=cr5PL6vbpTc4A74zB-ENCxaD2ad79aSSBXbUWJ-1SAk&e=
>
>HTH!
>
>Groete / Greetings
>Elardus Engelbrecht
>
>--
>For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
>send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[Charles Mills]

Or for this one submission, just copy the edited dataset to INTRDR with an 
IEBGENER job.

Charles


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 6:47 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: TSO temp dataset

On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 14:01:48 +, Nai, Dean wrote:

>When you submit a job through TSO your temp dataset gets created. I'm 
>trying to submit a big job and my temp dataset keeps on running out of 
>space. Any way of increasing the size of itthanks
> 
I don't believe the TSO SUBMIT command creates temp data sets.

Create a utility, perhaps an Edit macro that writes directly to INTRDR.

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[Elardus Engelbrecht]

>Also check SCKRCLIB(CKRESUB) these line:

>"SELECT CMD(ALLOC FI(CKRSUBMI) DA('"workdsn"') SPACE(1 1)", 

I forgot about another allocation statement. Search in that same member for 
this word C2RFSUB and look for "space(1 1)" to enlarge that.

HTH!

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[Elardus Engelbrecht]

Nai, Dean wrote:

>The problem is it gets submitted by a RACF product called zSECURE so I have no 
>control over it. I just generate the commands it uses and then tell it to 
>submit a job.

In that case, check in zSecure option SE.0 that 'TSO SUBMIT' is not used.

Also check SCKRCLIB(CKRESUB) these line:

"SELECT CMD(ALLOC FI(CKRSUBMI) DA('"workdsn"') SPACE(1 1)", 

Alternatively, ask the zSecure people at this forum:

https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/forums/html/forum?id=----1255&ps=25

HTH!

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset [USAA Confidential]

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 14:06:12 +, Usher, Darrold wrote:
>...
>USAA nonfidential
> 
Does your employer know that you're posting information marked
"confidential" to a publicly accessible forum?

-- gil

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 14:01:48 +, Nai, Dean wrote:

>When you submit a job through TSO your temp dataset gets created. I'm trying 
>to submit a big job and my temp dataset keeps on running out of space. Any way 
>of increasing the size of itthanks
> 
I don't believe the TSO SUBMIT command creates temp data sets.

Create a utility, perhaps an Edit macro that writes directly to INTRDR.

-- gil

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[Mark Jacobs - Listserv]

I'm assuming you SMS manage temporary datasets. If so, assign them to a data 
class with enough dasd space.

Mark Jacobs

Nai, Dean
February 15, 2018 at 9:31 AM
The problem is it gets submitted by a RACF product called zSECURE so I have no 
control over it. I just generate the commands it uses and then tell it to 
submit a job.


Dean Nai
Senior z/OS Systems Programmer
Mainframe Technical Support Group










--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with 
the message: INFO IBM-MAIN


Please be alert for any emails that may ask you for login information or 
directs you to login via a link. If you believe this message is a phish or 
aren't sure whether this message is trustworthy, please send the original 
message as an attachment to 
'phish...@meredith.com'.

Nai, Dean
February 15, 2018 at 9:01 AM
When you submit a job through TSO your temp dataset gets created. I'm trying to 
submit a big job and my temp dataset keeps on running out of space. Any way of 
increasing the size of itthanks


Dean Nai
Senior z/OS Systems Programmer
Mainframe Technical Support Group





--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with 
the message: INFO IBM-MAIN


Please be alert for any emails that may ask you for login information or 
directs you to login via a link. If you believe this message is a phish or 
aren't sure whether this message is trustworthy, please send the original 
message as an attachment to 
'phish...@meredith.com'.


--

Mark Jacobs
Time Customer Service
Global Technology Services

The standard you walk past is the standard you accept.
Lt. Gen. David Morrison


This electronic message, including any attachments, may contain proprietary, 
confidential or privileged information for the sole use of the intended 
recipient(s). You are hereby notified that any unauthorized disclosure, 
copying, distribution, or use of this message is prohibited. If you have 
received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply 
e-mail and delete it.

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset

[Nai, Dean]

The problem is it gets submitted by a RACF product called zSECURE so I have no 
control over it. I just generate the commands it uses and then tell it to 
submit a job.


Dean Nai
Senior z/OS Systems Programmer  
Mainframe Technical Support Group   









On 2/15/18, 9:01 AM, "IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Nai, Dean" 
 wrote:

>When you submit a job through TSO your temp dataset gets created. I'm trying 
>to submit a big job and my temp dataset keeps on running out of space. Any way 
>of increasing the size of itthanks
>
>
>Dean Nai   
>Senior z/OS Systems Programmer 
>Mainframe Technical Support Group  
>
>
>
>
>>
>
>--
>For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
>send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset [USAA Confidential]

[Roach, Dennis]

If you have it in a data set you do not have to go to ready.

If it is a member bring up the member list and enter sub in the command column.
If it is not a member, go to 3.4 and enter sub in the command column.

Dennis Roach, CISSP
AIG

Identity & Access Management | Technology Services

2929 Allen Parkway, America Building, 3rd Floor | Houston, TX 77019
Phone:  713-591-1059 (cell)

dennis.ro...@aig.com | www.aig.com 

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Usher, Darrold
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:06 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: TSO temp dataset [USAA Confidential]

A workaround is go to TSO READY and use the submit command. SUBMIT 
'dataset(member)' as an example

USAA Confidential

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Nai, Dean
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:02 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: EXTERNAL: TSO temp dataset

When you submit a job through TSO your temp dataset gets created. I'm trying to 
submit a big job and my temp dataset keeps on running out of space. Any way of 
increasing the size of itthanks


Dean Nai
Senior z/OS Systems Programmer  
Mainframe Technical Support Group   




>

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to 
lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to 
lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO temp dataset [USAA Confidential]

[Usher, Darrold]

A workaround is go to TSO READY and use the submit command. SUBMIT 
'dataset(member)' as an example

USAA Confidential

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Nai, Dean
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:02 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: EXTERNAL: TSO temp dataset

When you submit a job through TSO your temp dataset gets created. I'm trying to 
submit a big job and my temp dataset keeps on running out of space. Any way of 
increasing the size of itthanks


Dean Nai
Senior z/OS Systems Programmer  
Mainframe Technical Support Group   




>

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to 
lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

TSO temp dataset

[Nai, Dean]

When you submit a job through TSO your temp dataset gets created. I'm trying to 
submit a big job and my temp dataset keeps on running out of space. Any way of 
increasing the size of itthanks


Dean Nai
Senior z/OS Systems Programmer  
Mainframe Technical Support Group   




>

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN