Re: VSMLIST question

2022-09-09 Thread Joseph Reichman
indicator is off (zero). The low bit and second lowest bit indicators are always off regarding my out put from VSMLIST the documentation says that when coding VSMLIST SP=PVT,SPACE=FREE the allocated information block is followed by the free block descriptor So if block descriptor for the allocated

Re: VSMLIST question

2022-09-09 Thread Peter Relson
Joe, You're saying that you did get output of 0001 7F88 1000 0001 7FF88 0500 within the returned data from the VSMLIST invocation you had shown? I can't think of a way that that would be OK. Unless I'm forgetting something, it would be APARable and I'd encourage you

Re: VSMLIST question

2022-09-08 Thread Joseph Reichman
ubtask of "yours". > > > So for example I could get a block descriptor 0001 7F88 1000 > 0001 7FF88 0500now it my understanding the > first 12 bytes is the allocated block descriptor > > However when I do a VSMLOC on that address I ge

Re: VSMLIST question

2022-09-08 Thread Peter Relson
it my understanding the first 12 bytes is the allocated block descriptor However when I do a VSMLOC on that address I get nothing return in the TCB= field This clearly is not real data from the VSMLIST that has been shown. Why did you have to make up data? There cannot possibly be a x'1000'

Re: VSMLIST question

2022-09-07 Thread Joseph Reichman
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: VSMLIST question Joseph Why do you need VSMLOC at all if you are processing VSMLIST SP=PVT,SPACE=FREE ? The TCB address is returned as part of the answer area buffer prior to each set of ALLOC+FREE descriptors for each subpool. It looks something like

Re: VSMLIST question

2022-09-07 Thread Joseph Reichman
> On Sep 7, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Rob Scott wrote: > > Joseph > > Why do you need VSMLOC at all if you are processing VSMLIST SP=PVT,SPACE=FREE > ? > > The TCB address is returned as part of the answer area buffer prior to each > set of ALLOC+FREE descriptors for

Re: VSMLIST question

2022-09-07 Thread Rob Scott
Joseph Why do you need VSMLOC at all if you are processing VSMLIST SP=PVT,SPACE=FREE ? The TCB address is returned as part of the answer area buffer prior to each set of ALLOC+FREE descriptors for each subpool. It looks something like this : # of TCBs TCB_STRUCT(1

Re: VSMLIST question

2022-09-07 Thread Joseph Reichman
Rob You are correct 7FF……. Are LSQA type address However my question is using VSMLIST SPACE=FREE SP=PVT the returned block descriptors are both allocated followed by the free Should I not be able to obtain the owning TCB With VSMLOC for the allocated block ? Thanks > On Sep 7, 2

Re: VSMLIST question

2022-09-07 Thread Rob Scott
Joseph, The example address you posted looks very much like LSQA to me - are you sure it was returned by VSMLIST SP=PVT ? Also - did you check the return code from VSMLOC? Might be worth capturing a in-flight dump of the target address space and comparing what you are seeing with IPCS VSMDATA

VSMLIST question

2022-09-07 Thread Joseph Reichman
Hi Its my understanding that when code the following (below the code for VSMLIST) what gets returned in my work area is the both an allocated followed by free storage this is what on understand from bullet 4 specified in the authorized Assembler guide page 240 So for example I could

Re: VSMLIST SP=PVT,SPACE=FREE question

2022-07-21 Thread Joseph Reichman
 ALLOC means GETMAIN/STORAGE OBTAIN I mean I understand that z/os always gets in increments of 1K or 4096 so free means it was part of the storage z/os obtained but the user didn’t request so the storage that the user requested really starts at 7FF9CE28 right ? > On Jul 21, 2022, at 10:28 AM,

VSMLIST SP=PVT,SPACE=FREE question

2022-07-21 Thread Harris Morgenstern
>From MVS Authorized Assembler Services Reference: ,SPACE=ALLOC ,SPACE=FREE ,SPACE=UNALLOC Specifies whether allocated, allocated and free, or unallocated storage is to be reported. ALLOC indicates that the virtual addresses and lengths of blocks of storage allocated to the specific area are to

VSMLIST SP=PVT,SPACE=FREE question

2022-07-20 Thread Joseph Reichman
The following is a layout for VSMLIST SP=PVT,SPACE=FREE It is my understanding that with SPACE=FREE the free space entry is listed and then the allocated ? So for the following entry Starting with the subpool descriptor, then TCB then number of free blocks then free block address and free

referencing Figure 37. Allocated Storage Information for Subpools in a Specified Area (VSMLIST) In Authotized Assembler Guide chap10

2022-02-17 Thread Joseph Reichman
When issuing VSMLIST SP=PVT,SPACE=FREE If the entire block is not allocated, then with space=free 2 block descriptor are mapped 1) the first and 2) free My reason for posting is my question the first block descriptor is that total or allocated the documentation says allocated My second

Re: VSMLIST question

2022-02-14 Thread Joseph Reichman
So the allocated storage would be whitin 51000 bytes meaning the range of storage is 7FF9C000 - 7FFED000 and the ALLOC starts at 7FFEC1D8 do I have it right ? > On Feb 14, 2022, at 10:12 AM, Harris Morgenstern wrote: > > From MVS Authorized Assembler Services Ref: > > ,SPACE=ALLOC >

VSMLIST question

2022-02-14 Thread Harris Morgenstern
>From MVS Authorized Assembler Services Ref: ,SPACE=ALLOC ,SPACE=FREE ,SPACE=UNALLOC Specifies whether allocated, allocated and free, or unallocated storage is to be reported. ALLOC indicates that the virtual addresses and lengths of blocks of storage allocated to the specific area are to be

VSMLIST question

2022-02-13 Thread Joseph Reichman
Hi On VSMLIST SP=PVT,SPACE=FREE In the following block descriptor ... 0001 7FF9C000 00051000 0001 7FF9C000 0E28 The first block descriptor at address at address 7FF9C000 for length of 51000 IS FREE allocated storage starts at 7FF9C000 + 51000 or 7FFED000

Re: VSMLIST in a PC-ss routine

2019-04-10 Thread Peter Relson
I'm hoping to use the VSMLIST service in a PC-ss routine running in primary mode to get the unallocated private areas of the secondary address space. Is this possible, or will the call below just give me the private areas of the primary? Unfortunately, you will have to consider your hope

VSMLIST in a PC-ss routine

2019-04-04 Thread Steve Austin
I'm hoping to use the VSMLIST service in a PC-ss routine running in primary mode to get the unallocated private areas of the secondary address space. Is this possible, or will the call below just give me the private areas of the primary? Thanks Steve VSMLIST SP=PVT,WKAREA=((R2),(R3)),SPACE

Re: Question about VSMLIST and LSQA

2017-08-02 Thread Don Poitras
The convention for the past 15 years or so has been first two letters of first name and first four letters of last name. So you'd probably be sts...@sas.com. For collisions, I think it goes to three and three, so possibly ste...@sas.com. You could always try to bribe somebody to be sas...@sas.com

Re: Question about VSMLIST and LSQA

2017-08-02 Thread Steve Smith
I asked the question based on the Auth. Ass. Services Guide... later on, I looked at the Diagnosis Ref., which says that the 230s are allocated in the 250s. Ah well, it was only idle curiosity anyway. If I got a job with SAS, would my email be s...@sas.com? Or sas...@sas.com? UGH. Better stay

Re: Question about VSMLIST and LSQA

2017-08-02 Thread Don Poitras
In article you wrote: > In sorting through the Rubik's Cube that is the subpool selection charts, > it appears to me that 233-235 are defined exactly the same as 253-255 > respectively. Is there some difference I'm missing? >

Re: Question about VSMLIST and LSQA

2017-08-02 Thread Steve Smith
In sorting through the Rubik's Cube that is the subpool selection charts, it appears to me that 233-235 are defined exactly the same as 253-255 respectively. Is there some difference I'm missing? sas -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: Question about VSMLIST and LSQA

2017-08-02 Thread Peter Relson
>>A key reason for the last is so that someone can use LSQA for an SRB that >>is not associated with a TCB, for which you might not want private storage >>obtained by the SRB to be freed just because some task terminates. >Seems like a weak reason. Are there other ways SRBs are protected from

Re: Question about VSMLIST and LSQA

2017-08-01 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 31 Jul 2017 10:52:15 -0400 Peter Relson <rel...@us.ibm.com> wrote: :>>>Since LSQA is System Private Storage how come there isn't a TCB :>associated :>>>with it :>>Who said there isn't? :>VSM said so. Because VSMLIST is not examining the correct

Re: Question about VSMLIST and LSQA

2017-07-31 Thread Peter Relson
rminates. I do not know whether the task association for subpools 253 and 254 is surfaced by VSMLIST. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: Question about VSMLIST and LSQA

2017-07-31 Thread Jim Mulder
VSMLIST allocated storage descriptor) can contain storage for all 3 of these subpools. The VSMLIST allocated storage descriptor always says subpool 255, even though it may represent storage obtained via a combination of subpool 253, 254, and 255 requests. For purposes of freeing task

Re: Question about VSMLIST and LSQA

2017-07-30 Thread Binyamin Dissen
It appears that VSMLIST is documented as not returning the TCB address for LSQA subpools because it treats all LSQA as address space level LSQA. One can wonder why, but it is documented. On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 09:37:53 -0400 Joe Reichman <reichman...@gmail.com> wrote: :>Sorry Binyamin :&

Re: Question about VSMLIST and LSQA

2017-07-30 Thread Joe Reichman
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question about VSMLIST and LSQA On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 21:48:24 -0400 Joe Reichman <reichman...@gmail.com> wrote: :>Since LSQA is System Private Storage how come there isn't a TCB associated :>with it Who said there isn't? -- Binyamin

VSMLIST and LSQA question

2017-07-30 Thread Joe Reichman
Hi Since LSQA is System Private Storage how come there isn't a TCB associated with it thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message:

Re: Question about VSMLIST and LSQA

2017-07-30 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 21:48:24 -0400 Joe Reichman wrote: :>Since LSQA is System Private Storage how come there isn't a TCB associated :>with it Who said there isn't? -- Binyamin Dissen http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software,

Question about VSMLIST and LSQA

2017-07-29 Thread Joe Reichman
Hi Since LSQA is System Private Storage how come there isn't a TCB associated with it thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message:

Re: VSMLIST

2017-02-22 Thread Tony Harminc
On 22 February 2017 at 11:16, Joseph Reichman wrote: > I know if you specify GSPV or SHPSV on the attach tasks can Share ? A subpool > If this is not specified on the attach would a subtask get a S0C4 for > referencing storage > Obtained by the originating task Use of

Re: VSMLIST

2017-02-22 Thread Greg Dyck
On 2/22/2017 10:15 AM, Joseph Reichman wrote: I know if you specify GSPV or SHPSV on the attach tasks can Share ? A subpool If this is not specified on the attach would a subtask get a S0C4 for referencing storage Obtained by the originating task No. A subpool is a logical grouping of

Re: VSMLIST

2017-02-22 Thread Wayne Driscoll
ERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: VSMLIST Greg Thanks for your clarification on this note Can I ask one more related question I know if you specify GSPV or SHPSV on the attach tasks can Share ? A subpool If this is not specified on the attach would a subtask get a S0C4 for referencing storag

Re: VSMLIST

2017-02-22 Thread Joseph Reichman
paged out I would get a S0C4 pic 11 >> >> If VSMLIST determines it has been getmain'ed >> >> Maybe I can PGSER FIX back in >> >> I just got 2.2 via RD they (IBM) gave us Omegamon maybe that would point >> me to the type of storage that I'm looking to drive my code

Re: VSMLIST

2017-02-22 Thread Greg Dyck
On 2/22/2017 7:17 AM, Joseph Reichman wrote: I am trying to reference storage that I ( my TCB didn't necessarily obtain ) Sometime I think if this storage has been paged out I would get a S0C4 pic 11 If VSMLIST determines it has been getmain'ed Maybe I can PGSER FIX back in I just got 2.2

Re: VSMLIST

2017-02-22 Thread Joseph Reichman
I am trying to reference storage that I ( my TCB didn't necessarily obtain ) Sometime I think if this storage has been paged out I would get a S0C4 pic 11 If VSMLIST determines it has been getmain'ed Maybe I can PGSER FIX back in I just got 2.2 via RD they (IBM) gave us Omegamon maybe

Re: VSMLIST

2017-02-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Tony Harminc wrote: >So why do you want to know that a page is GETMAINed and paged out? What will >you do differently if your program finds this out? There are other >possibilities; a page can be accessible but not GETMAINed. >VSMLIST can tell you if a page is GETMAINED, and LRA

Re: VSMLIST

2017-02-21 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Joe Reichman Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 6:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: VSMLIST I am Looking for Storage that was GetMain'ed and Page'ed out -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [

Re: VSMLIST

2017-02-21 Thread Tony Harminc
GETMAINed. VSMLIST can tell you if a page is GETMAINED, and LRA[G] can tell you if it's paged in or out, but those things can change the moment you look away, or even as you are looking, in a multiprocessor environment. Unless you are running disabled or hold locks that you probably shouldn't be holdi

Re: VSMLIST

2017-02-21 Thread Joe Reichman
I am Looking for Storage that was GetMain'ed and Page'ed out -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jim Mulder Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 4:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: VSMLIST > I'm trying to f

Re: VSMLIST

2017-02-21 Thread Jim Mulder
> I'm trying to find data for PGSER FIX > > would VSMLIST. For free space give me address of storage that have > been allocated but paged out No, VSM (and hence VSMLIST) knows nothing about if or where any virtual storage is backed. Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Developmen

VSMLIST

2017-02-21 Thread Joseph Reichman
Hi I'm trying to find data for PGSER FIX would VSMLIST. For free space give me address of storage that have been allocated but paged out Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email