Re: What happens with no working SE?

2016-04-20 Thread linda golding
Co-Manager > 323-715-0595 Mobile > 626-302-7535 Office > robin...@sce.com > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of linda golding > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2016 2:06 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTS

Re: What happens with no working SE?

2016-04-20 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: What happens with no working SE? Am curious . This is what i could find looking at the enhancements . Since you say STP doesn't steer the clock , i would like to know how this works these days . *http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/advantages/pso/stp/ntp.html

Re: What happens with no working SE?

2016-04-20 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Of Rob Schramm Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2016 6:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: What happens with no working SE? Ok.. So how many people leave their "l am down to one SE z machine" powered down for lengthy periods of time that is not a DR machine? Or is running

Re: What happens with no working SE?

2016-04-19 Thread Rob Schramm
Ok.. So how many people leave their "l am down to one SE z machine" powered down for lengthy periods of time that is not a DR machine? Or is running production on a single SE machine for a long time using STP? I am hoping that my questions are somewhat rhetorical or humorous and completely

Re: What happens with no working SE?

2016-04-19 Thread linda golding
Am curious . This is what i could find looking at the enhancements . Since you say STP doesn't steer the clock , i would like to know how this works these days . *http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/advantages/pso/stp/ntp.html * *Service

Re: What happens with no working SE?

2016-04-19 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2016-04-18 o 23:19, linda golding pisze: One of two SE failed means you can peform everything you want, including STP. Maybe STP setup would be impossible (I haven't checked), but I'd bet it is also possible. I've been working with single SE (primary failed) for some time. It wasn't my

Re: What happens with no working SE?

2016-04-18 Thread linda golding
One of two SE failed means you can peform everything you want, including STP. Maybe STP setup would be impossible (I haven't checked), but I'd bet it is also possible. I've been working with single SE (primary failed) for some time. It wasn't my dream, but I could live with it. I thought

Re: What happens with no working SE?

2016-03-24 Thread Jim Mulder
> We happen to have a failed SE at the moment. It's the 'alternate', > so no immediate impact at all. But the question has been raised, > what would happen if the primary failed also? I remember a case > years ago (1990s) when there was only one SE in a box, and it went > bad. Just meant that

Re: What happens with no working SE?

2016-03-24 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
finally got that information. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: 24 March, 2016 15:37 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What happens with no working SE? Gizmo is fixed now. No impact

Re: What happens with no working SE?

2016-03-24 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: What happens with no working SE? No SE at all means your z/OS (or any other) system is still working, but no HW changes are possible, no IPL, many HW command will fail, etc. Deep sh*t. One of two SE failed means you can peform everything you want, including

Re: What happens with no working SE?

2016-03-24 Thread R.S.
No SE at all means your z/OS (or any other) system is still working, but no HW changes are possible, no IPL, many HW command will fail, etc. Deep sh*t. One of two SE failed means you can peform everything you want, including STP. Maybe STP setup would be impossible (I haven't checked), but

What happens with no working SE?

2016-03-23 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
We happen to have a failed SE at the moment. It's the 'alternate', so no immediate impact at all. But the question has been raised, what would happen if the primary failed also? I remember a case years ago (1990s) when there was only one SE in a box, and it went bad. Just meant that we could