> On Sep 4, 2023, at 12:36 AM, Brian Westerman
> wrote:
>
> I think even the ones that abuse the list the most still provide assistance
> from time to time that is very useful. I completely understand that
> oftentimes they want the person to RTFM, which makes a lot of sense because
> you
I think that instead of posting surly replies refrain from posting. No need
for unpleasantness.
On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 01:37:00 a.m. EDT, Brian Westerman
wrote:
I think even the ones that abuse the list the most still provide assistance
from time to time that is very
.
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of
Brian Westerman
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To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: With regrets, after many years I will no longer be following
IBM-MAIN
I think even the ones that abuse
I think even the ones that abuse the list the most still provide assistance
from time to time that is very useful. I completely understand that oftentimes
they want the person to RTFM, which makes a lot of sense because you also don't
want the list to become a primary school. The "new guys"
utation. Character is what
> you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf
> Of Bob Bridges
> Sent: Saturday, September 2, 2023 8:56 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> S
think you are.” - - - John Wooden
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bob
Bridges
Sent: Saturday, September 2, 2023 8:56 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: With regrets, after many years I will no longer be following
IBM-MAIN
I recently stoppe
I recently stopped posting on a forum (not this one), and I can tell you why
~I~ didn't make an announcement about it:
The first is kind of like yours, Brian: I haven't yet been able to find any
way of saying "I don't like the conversation here any more" without it
sounding, in my ears at
People will join the list, people will leave the list. Some of them will let
the list know why they left (as in this case) and some of them will either just
stop participating or leave without any word at all. It's sad to hear that
people are leaving the list for any reason, but to leave
Selective time frame meaningless. Now do 2023.
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On Friday, September 1, 2023, 11:06 AM, Tom Marchant
<000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
PKB
72 of the 1223 posts in August were from you. That's 5.88% of all the posts, or
about 1 in 17.
PKB
72 of the 1223 posts in August were from you. That's 5.88% of all the posts, or
about 1 in 17.
Clearly, you are one of the "20-30 who dominate this platform with drivel."
--
Tom Marchant
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 19:38:17 +, Bill Johnson wrote:
>Everyone needs to add their 2 cents to the
Gabe Goldberg wrote:
>For decades, I've wished for a list setting:
>Set bozo on
>...which would allow the subject person to post and see posts
>reflected back, but not inflict them on anyone else. Talking into a
>bottomless well would get boring.
That's called "shadow banning":
Everyone needs to add their 2 cents to the thread they were complaining about.
This is why there are few younger mainframers here. The same 20-30 who dominate
this platform with drivel. As long as you’re a member of the cult/frat pack, no
problem. Anyone who dares challenge the status quo
Back in the days of NetNews, there was .
See #3 of the verb.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/plonk
In the case of your personal news reader (or for us, your particular
email client) this is effective.
For LISTSERV (sans the feature Gabe suggests), it rests upon the list
admin to remove the
For decades, I've wished for a list setting:
Set bozo on
...which would allow the subject person to post and see posts reflected back,
but not inflict them on anyone else. Talking into a bottomless well would get
boring.
Ed Jaffe
On 8/30/2023 7:12 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote:
Dear
At least talking to myself is talking to someone who doesn’t buy the MAGA crap.
Or believes Cain & Abel were real.
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On Wednesday, August 30, 2023, 4:17 PM, Ed Jaffe
wrote:
On 8/30/2023 11:41 AM, Pommier, Rex wrote:
> Thanks, Tom. I have the primary filter
On 8/30/2023 11:41 AM, Pommier, Rex wrote:
Thanks, Tom. I have the primary filter set as well but hadn't thought of doing
an e-mail body scan. Time to head off to peruse my outlook rules. :-)
After a while, a troublemaker eventually realizes he's talking only to
himself, gets bored, and
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Me too, with a From: test using Thunderbird on my PC. It can also check for a
body text string, for example, " XXX wrote:" to somewhat filter other
people's responses
To be honest I did it first time approx. 20 years ago.
It is quite simple method to filter the noise.
What is hard is making a decision. Because "maybe he will contribute
something important?". NO. Just no. You may read tons of spam just
because maybe there is hidden gem inside. There is no
On 8/30/2023 10:21 AM, Tom Brennan wrote:
Me too, with a From: test using Thunderbird on my PC. It can also
check for a body text string, for example, " XXX wrote:" to
somewhat filter other people's responses to whoever that person might
be who matches the X's.
Good point, Tom. I
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of
Michael Watkins
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 1:02 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: With regrets, after many years I will no longer be following
IBM-MAIN
Does the 'System Z Enthusiasts' Discord server require an i
Does the 'System Z Enthusiasts' Discord server require an individual
invitiation?
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of
Matt Hogstrom
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 11:02 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: With regrets, after many years I
Me too, with a From: test using Thunderbird on my PC. It can also check
for a body text string, for example, " XXX wrote:" to somewhat
filter other people's responses to whoever that person might be who
matches the X's.
On 8/30/2023 9:49 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote:
What I do is set up
On 8/30/2023 7:12 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote:
Dear ibm-mainers,
It is with regrets that after many years I will no longer be actively following
IBM-MAIN.
The list has become intolerable because of trolling, off-topic thread hijacking, and
personal attacks. The signal-to-noise ratio is approaching
e D. Jackson
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 9:19 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: With regrets, after many years I will no longer be following
IBM-MAIN
I completely agree with your assessment Kirk. With all of the other social
media options for venting ideological viewpoints, I would h
Thanks for the link Lionel. I recall seeing this before but didn’t follow
through. Now if I can only figure out Discord’s bizarre account architecture
(I seem to have an old account I can’t link)
Matt Hogstrom
“To achieve great things two things are needed: a plan, and not quite enough
Kirk,
While it's hard (as in, impossible) to argue with your logic, I'd urge you to
stay. Your contributions here are unquestioned, and the community will be the
worse off without you. I'd submit that as a vendor, it will be a (slight)
detriment to you as well, but of course that's your call.
contribute something worth reading.
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of
Kirk Wolf
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 9:12 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: With regrets, after many years I will no longer be following IBM-MAIN
CAUTION: This email
It has been nearly worthless for years. 20-30 posters account for 95% of the
traffic. It’s a good old boys club. A cultish frat club.
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On Wednesday, August 30, 2023, 10:15 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote:
Dear ibm-mainers,
It is with regrets that after many years I will
f
Lance D. Jackson
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 9:19 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: With regrets, after many years I will no longer be following
IBM-MAIN
I completely agree with your assessment Kirk. With all of the other social
media options for venting ideological viewpoints
Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of
Kirk Wolf
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 10:12
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: With regrets, after many years I will no longer be following
IBM-MAIN
Dear ibm-mainers,
It is with regrets that after many years I will no longer be actively
following IBM
Dear ibm-mainers,
It is with regrets that after many years I will no longer be actively following
IBM-MAIN.
The list has become intolerable because of trolling, off-topic thread
hijacking, and personal attacks. The signal-to-noise ratio is approaching "1".
My assessment is that without some
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