Re: Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee

2012-09-07 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-09-06 23:16, Mike Schwab pisze: On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 3:55 PM, R.S. mike.a.sch...@gmail.com CAN'T YOU SNIP.MY ADDRESS?.com.pl wrote: I meant it's hard to justfiy the choice: to buy IFL (plus rest of mainframe) or x64 servers. I meant Linux on IFL is *much* more expensive than on

How does WLMTUC get its information?

2012-09-07 Thread Volkmar Langer
Hi, I wrote a small Rexx application that - among other things - used the as-is-tool WLMTUC (which is a compiled REXX) to inform about upcoming image- or group-capping. Now I rewrote my application in java to move the workload from CP too zIIP, but I'm missing an equivalent to this WLMTUC

Re: SMP/E question

2012-09-07 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Skip Robinson wrote: 5. Expect RC 8. (Anything less is miraculous. A miracle won't get you a raise or a hot date.) It should be for the OP easier if he do his SMP/E zones per group of products. And work zone by zone. But RC=8 is expected, yes. This is why there is this thing called 'fallback'

Re: Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee

2012-09-07 Thread Roger Bowler
On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 16:16:03 -0500, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote: You can buy and power 300 servers cheaper than one IFL? IBM says that many servers would cost 10 times as much to power and cool. As Mandy Rice-Davies[1] famously said: they would, wouldn't they? Roger Bowler Hercules

Re: another DCOLLECT question

2012-09-07 Thread Uriel Carrasquilla
This will work. Thank you. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Mike Schwab [mike.a.sch...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 12:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: another DCOLLECT question

Re: SMP/E question

2012-09-07 Thread Jousma, David
This is EXACTLY what I do. _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: UNABLE TO DO A FULL VOLUME RESTORE - DFDSS

2012-09-07 Thread John Dawes
Rex,   I tried to full volume restore to anothe VOLSER which is not SMS however DFDSS won't allow this :ADR710E (001)-TDFP (01), COPYVOLID IS REQUIRED TO RESTORE INPUT VOLUME.   I am forced to use the COPYVOLID parm which at the moment I cannot because the volume is in use.  I will have to wait

Re: SMP/E question

2012-09-07 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
On 9/6/2012 11:31 PM, Skip Robinson wrote exactly my thoughts, but much more entertaining: I have never understood the fixation with rock bottom return codes. SMP/E maintenance is so much simpler without agonizing over every uneven cobblestone along the path. snip a bunch of good stuff I

Re: Who is sending this ftp file

2012-09-07 Thread mario@tiscali
SMF Record 118 written by the Communication Server has a section with FTP CLient Statistics which includes the information you are looking for. As far as I know TCP/IP SMF recording must be explicitly enabled (see the IP Configuration Reference manual). And you'll need a formatting program to

Re: Who is sending this ftp file

2012-09-07 Thread McKown, John
It depends. That data is written to SMF, record type 118 or 119 or both or neither, depending on your FTP options. Unfortunately, it is possible for the job which did the ftp to access its own options data set, so you cannot be sure. You just need to scan the SMF data from that time frame.

Re: Who is sending this ftp file

2012-09-07 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Rajaram Kalahasti wrote: I our shop, some job on the mainframe is sending a file ( thru ft) to a windows box. We lost track of which job it is. Tsk, tsk, tsk. What does RACF (SERVAUTH for example) and SMF tell you about the FTP program and ip and port usage usage? I really hope you have

Re: How does WLMTUC get its information?

2012-09-07 Thread Volkmar Langer
Yes, me too. I know, it was delivered as an ASIS-tool in former releases (not anymore since z/OS 1.11), but I don't know anymore in which library it was (maybe SAXREXEC or SAMPLIB). And before posting here, I tried to figure out where you could find it, but there has been absolutely NO evidence

Re: Who is sending this ftp file

2012-09-07 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
McKown, John wrote: It depends. That data is written to SMF, record type 118 or 119 or both or neither, depending on your FTP options. Thanks for mentioning this. I was researching what SMF recort type it was. ref: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/f1a1d3a0/E.9 Some

Re: Who is sending this ftp file

2012-09-07 Thread McKown, John
I had forgotten about the UNIX syslog daemon (syslogd). I wonder how many shops have it set up and running. We do. I have it set up to log into /var/log/daemon.-mm-dd where -mm-dd is the Gregorian date. I also have it set up to switch to a new file every midnight (local). I only keep

Re: Who is sending this ftp file

2012-09-07 Thread Meehan, Cheryl
If you believe a job is sending the file, you should be able to do a scan on your production jcllib to look for the filename on the windows box. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rajaram Kalahasti Sent: Friday, September

Re: Who is sending this ftp file

2012-09-07 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-09-07 14:50, Meehan, Cheryl pisze: If you believe a job is sending the file, you should be able to do a scan on your production jcllib to look for the filename on the windows box. I will work or it won't. Reasons: 1. Ambigous filename, like REPORT.TXT 2. Filename as variable, like

Re: Who is sending this ftp file

2012-09-07 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Radoslaw Skorupka pisze: Reasons: 4. Maybe others Perhaps the whole FTP thing is originating from that Windoze box with a get statement. This is why we removed all those anonymous settings [1] and enabled SSL connection. Remark: any of the situations above should not take place, but the

Re: Who is sending this ftp file

2012-09-07 Thread Lizette Koehler
Is it possible that you have them time/date the file was created on the Windows Box? If so, you might be able to go back to SYSLOG / or SMF 14/15 records to find the JOB/DSN In syslog I would have a D A,L issued around the time frame of the dataset creation on the Windows box. Then see what was

Re: Etymology of APAR

2012-09-07 Thread Jon Butler
I won't argue APAR nor SPOOL, which is one acronym that is more meaningful than its deriving phrase, Simultaneous Peripheral Operation On-Line, but I will have to question Cadaver. According to the OED, Cadaver in English is derived from the Latin word for a dead body, related to to cadere, to

Re: Who is sending this ftp file

2012-09-07 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Lizette Koehler wrote: Is it possible that you have them time/date the file was created on the Windows Box? I would rather look, (for Windows XP! Yes! Yes! Yes!), in Windows\System32\LogFiles\MSFTPSVC1 folder and look for the youngest file. That file should contains all the details

Re: Etymology of APAR

2012-09-07 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Jon Butler wrote: Now, let's move on to gringo. ;-)) Oh no, I'm dying, are you deadly serious? ;-D Thanks for your entertaining info about cadavers before I fall down and drop dead. ;-) Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht

JES2 record count

2012-09-07 Thread Juergen Keller
hi all, is there someone having experiences with JES2? I have a strange problem. A user created a spool file and SDSF and $DJ are showing a record count of 12 lines. When I look at the file I see 29 lines and when I write it to a dataset (XDC-command in SDSF) I will also have 29 lines. The

Re: Anyone know how to copy a PDS directory as a flat file?

2012-09-07 Thread Charles Mills
(The OP would be you, right?) Yup. That's what makes me the expert on what his question meant. However, you cannot sequentially read a UNIX directory. Bummer indeed. I need a module that can sort out four cases, given a z/OS file name. - It is a sequential conventional dataset or PDS

Re: Who is sending this ftp file

2012-09-07 Thread zMan
Probably not the answer you want, but: block access to that Windows box (firewall) and see what fails... On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Rajaram Kalahasti rajaram.kalaha...@gmail.com wrote: hi, I our shop, some job on the mainframe is sending a file ( thru ft) to a windows box. We lost

Re: Who is sending this ftp file

2012-09-07 Thread Bill Fairchild
Would this phenomenon count as installing unapproved software according to a certain auditor in a different thread? Bill Fairchild Programmer Rocket Software 408 Chamberlain Park Lane * Franklin, TN 37069-2526 * USA t: +1.617.614.4503 * e: bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com * w:

Re: Etymology of APAR

2012-09-07 Thread John Gilmore
Jon Butler writes: begin extract I won't argue APAR nor SPOOL, which is one acronym that is more meaningful than its deriving phrase, Simultaneous Peripheral Operation On-Line, but I will have to question Cadaver. /end extract adumbrates without really making the useful distinction between

Re: SMP/E question

2012-09-07 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Bravo, Skip! This is what I always did as well. I had a former coworker who would go through and manually exclude every PTF that failed with a HOLDERROR, until he was able to get to a RC4 on his apply check. He wasted untold hours doing this, just so he could get a RC4 on his APPLY. I think

Re: Anyone know how to copy a PDS directory as a flat file?

2012-09-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 07df01cd8c4d$b1408b20$13c1a160$@mcn.org, on 09/06/2012 at 09:35 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: Did you read my preceding post? g The one that denied the key field for PDS directory blocks? ;-) BTW, I saw a quote from an earlier message, but not the message itself, talking about

Re: Etymology of APAR

2012-09-07 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
jwgli...@gmail.com (John Gilmore) writes: Did the phrase come first, followed by its acronym? Or did the acronym come first, followed by the construction of a more or, often, very much less felicitous phrase to serve as its imputed its origin? aka some claims that spool comes from spool/reel

Re: Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee

2012-09-07 Thread Mark Post
On 9/7/2012 at 04:40 AM, Roger Bowler ibm-m...@snacons.com wrote: On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 16:16:03 -0500, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote: You can buy and power 300 servers cheaper than one IFL? IBM says that many servers would cost 10 times as much to power and cool. As Mandy

Re: zEC12, and previous generations, why? type question - GPU computing.

2012-09-07 Thread William Donzelli
Mainframes? The 8100 was a series of small machines that grew out of the 3790. They were no more mainframes than their competitor, the S/1. Perhaps you are thinking of DPPX/370, which ran on the 9370. It is debatable (although maybe we shouldn't here!) - 8100 was a DPD product, not GSD like

Re: Etymology of APAR

2012-09-07 Thread Chris Hoelscher
Its Friday: In the 1960s show The Man From U.N.C.L.E. - UNCLE didn't stand for anything - but there was so much clamor for an explanation - the writers came up with: United Network Command for Law Enforcement So sometimes the cart does come before the horse . Chris hoelscher Technology

Re: Anyone know how to copy a PDS directory as a flat file?

2012-09-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 7 Sep 2012 07:03:10 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: How many times has this wheel been re-invented? Yeah, I could use DESERV for the PDS instead of reading the directory, Does DESERV understand UNIX directories? ISTR not. And I suspect that ISPF still relies on reading PDS(E) directories

Proof That Dinosaurs Can Learn New Tricks

2012-09-07 Thread Edward Jaffe
Proof that dinosaurs can learn new tricks, I wrote my first 'blog' entry -- EVER -- and it is on SHARE's web site. http://www.share.org/p/bl/ar/blogaid=167source=6 -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318

Re: Anyone know how to copy a PDS directory as a flat file?

2012-09-07 Thread Bob Shannon
And I suspect that ISPF still relies on reading PDS(E) directories as PS data sets rather than using DESERV I would be astounded if ISPF doesn't use standard services. Since the format of PDSEs has never been published, and since directory space can be created when needed in non-contiguous

Re: Proof That Dinosaurs Can Learn New Tricks

2012-09-07 Thread John P Kalinich
snip from Ed's blog This time, there was no new z/OS release to talk about; the next one is not scheduled until September, 2013. /snip What happened to the June, 2013 release date? Regards, John K IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu wrote on 09/07/2012 10:46:21 AM:

Re: JES2 record count

2012-09-07 Thread Skip Robinson
IIRC, this is more of an SDSF 'issue', not 'problem'. SDSF always presents print data with ANSI control characters, as in VB*A* regardless of what the application program actually produced. Furthermore, I think that SDSF presents only single advances regardless of the generating program. JES2

Re: Proof That Dinosaurs Can Learn New Tricks

2012-09-07 Thread Skip Robinson
Welcome to the land of the blogosaurs. . . JO.Skip Robinson SCE Infrastructure Technology Services Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From: Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com To:

Re: JES2 record count

2012-09-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 0455733492565759.wa.juergen.kellerdeutscheboerse@listserv.ua.edu, on 09/07/2012 at 08:52 AM, Juergen Keller juergen.kel...@deutsche-boerse.com said: is there someone having experiences with JES2? I have a strange problem. A user created a spool file and SDSF and $DJ are showing a record

Re: Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee

2012-09-07 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.) writes: 1. 300? Only 300? Why not 3? I can buy good memory for 6,6 $ per GB, IBM wanted recently 8k$ per GB. 1000+ times more. Now it's cheaper - only 1500 $/GB. I can also buy CPU for 150$, while IFL costs approx 150 k$. re:

Re: Proof That Dinosaurs Can Learn New Tricks

2012-09-07 Thread Gord Tomlin
AFAIK there was never a June 2013 release date for the next z/OS release. -- Regards, Gord Tomlin Action Software International (a division of Mazda Computer Corporation) Tel: (905) 470-7113, Fax: (905) 470-6507 On 2012-09-07 12:03, John P Kalinich wrote: snip from Ed's blog This time, there

Re: Anyone know how to copy a PDS directory as a flat file?

2012-09-07 Thread Charles Mills
I seriously doubt ISPF can read the directory as a PS data set But that's the thing -- anyone can. It's fairly trivial. Follow the PDS directory read documentation, and it works like magic on a PDSE. (I have no knowledge or opinion on what ISPF actually does.) Charles -Original

Automated Service Delivery Certificate

2012-09-07 Thread Chip Grantham
Our automated service delivery certificate expired this week and I'm having a duce of a time attempting to find the link on new ShopzSeries website to get a new one. Any clue would be appreciated! Chip Grantham | Ameritas | Sr. IT Consultant | cgrant...@ameritas.com 5900 O Street,

Re: Automated Service Delivery Certificate

2012-09-07 Thread Jousma, David
Create a new software order, select z/OS Service, and in the pull down, select SERVICE CERTIFICATE. _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H p

Re: Automated Service Delivery Certificate

2012-09-07 Thread Mark Jacobs
Also when you upload it to zOS for installation into your security package, don't believe the FM where it says the certificate can be stored in a data set with a minimum lrecl of 256 or larger. RACF won't import it. I've had success with a lrecl of 4096, recfm=vb. Mark Jacobs On 09/07/12

Re: Proof That Dinosaurs Can Learn New Tricks

2012-09-07 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 7 Sep 2012 08:46:21 -0700, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: Proof that dinosaurs can learn new tricks, I wrote my first 'blog' entry -- EVER -- and it is on SHARE's web site. http://www.share.org/p/bl/ar/blogaid=167source=6 -- Nice... another hidden talent for Mr.

Re: Automated Service Delivery Certificate

2012-09-07 Thread Chicklon, Thomas
Top Secret seems perfectly happy with 256. Just imported one this morning with the following attributes: Organization . . . : PS Record format . . . : VB Record length . . . : 256 Block size . . . . : 27998 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Proof That Dinosaurs Can Learn New Tricks

2012-09-07 Thread John Eells
OK, you woke me up. *What* June 2013 release date? (If someone from IBM said that, please send me a note.) John P Kalinich wrote: snip from Ed's blog This time, there was no new z/OS release to talk about; the next one is not scheduled until September, 2013. /snip What happened to the

Re: Proof That Dinosaurs Can Learn New Tricks

2012-09-07 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 7 Sep 2012 11:03:27 -0500, John P Kalinich wrote: What happened to the June, 2013 release date? Announcement 212-086 (April 11, 2012) says second half of 2013. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: Proof That Dinosaurs Can Learn New Tricks

2012-09-07 Thread Martin Packer
Excellent! But it seems to be behind SHARE's paywall. I don't really object to that - but it WILL limit your audience. :-( Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com

Re: Anyone know how to copy a PDS directory as a flat file?

2012-09-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 7 Sep 2012 15:30:25 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: Got paraphrase of WAD. Broken as designed? Something to the effect that DDLIST was designed to use ISPF services to support ISPF functions, and ISPF has no service to scan a UNIX directory. They also mentioned that DDLIST is

Re: Automated Service Delivery Certificate

2012-09-07 Thread Skip Robinson
I complained about the process a few months ago when my cert expired. Trouble is, I do this only once and year and forget the steps. First off, consult SMP/E User's Guide SA22-7773-xx . There's a discussion about the steps to take. Problem is, I found out (once again) that the directions for

Re: Reading the CA MSM database

2012-09-07 Thread Lizette Koehler
The apar is still plain old SMPE. All you need is the Global zone names to get the listing. Lizette -Original Message- From: Hardee, Chuck chuck.har...@thermofisher.com Sent: Sep 7, 2012 1:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Reading the CA MSM database Thanks Mary Anne,

Re: Reading the CA MSM database

2012-09-07 Thread Mark Zelden
Thanks Mary Anne, (I knew Mary Anne would reply with that sample from our SHARE session) What I'm looking for is a simple report that shows the APAR number and short description or title. Charles (Chuck) Hardee If you look at hlq.CEGPJCL(B4KLOAD) you might be able to guess which

Re: Reading the CA MSM database

2012-09-07 Thread Hardee, Chuck
Yes Lizette, I am well aware of the SMP/E connection, but it is more than that. MSM loads APARs into itself from SupportConnect when you update a product's maintenance status. That does not mean they are in SMP/E. In fact, they aren't automatically applied to your installed products until you

Re: Reading the CA MSM database

2012-09-07 Thread Hardee, Chuck
Hi Mark, Yes, CA would be the gospel, so to speak, and I have already opened an issue with them on this very subject. But, as par for the course, they can't get past the CSI has the information you want. I already have the SMP/E side, I want the MSM side. I've stressed that to them but they

Re: Proof That Dinosaurs Can Learn New Tricks

2012-09-07 Thread Graham Hobbs
I found I could 'join' Share as a 'non-member' and got to the post - cost nothing. Graham Hobbs - Original Message - From: Martin Packer martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 3:51 PM Subject: Re: Proof

Replacement for LISTDSI for multivolume datasets searched

2012-09-07 Thread Jürgen Kehr
Hi, in a REXX application I used LISTDSI to determine the size of some datasets, in order to generate a JCL stream and FTP locsite statements. Now the datasets growed, so I meeded to define some datasets as multi volume files. But here I recognized that LISTDSI doesn't support multi volume

Re: Replacement for LISTDSI for multivolume datasets searched

2012-09-07 Thread Lizette Koehler
Yes, you can use the Catalog Search Interface (CSI) to do this. There is documentation in z/OS V1R12.0 DFSMS Managing Catalogs And a sample in SYS1.SAMPLIB(IGGCSIRX) Lizette Hi, in a REXX application I used LISTDSI to determine the size of some datasets, in order to generate a JCL stream

Re: zOSMF Zones

2012-09-07 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 8/21/2012 12:36 PM, Bob Shannon wrote: Having been forced to order zOSMF, does one install it in the z/OS zones or in its own zones? Dunno which way is best, but IBM installs z/OSMF into its own zones on the ADCD. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive

Re: Communications Server

2012-09-07 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 8/20/2012 11:34 AM, Skip Robinson wrote: How about Netview questions? There is netv...@yahoogroups.com where Tom Howe is an active participant; the best Netview list in cyber-space! -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245

Re: zOSMF Zones

2012-09-07 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 7 Sep 2012 18:19:07 -0700, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com wrote: We have followed a simple rule for a decade or so. Everything included in ServerPac goes into one CSI. Period. Everything else goes into some other CSI. Hence if we order a product separately in between ServerPacs

Re: Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee

2012-09-07 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#81 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#87 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee BladeCenter blade servers

Re: Anyone know how to copy a PDS directory as a flat file?

2012-09-07 Thread Greg Price
On 8/09/2012 1:49 AM, Bob Shannon wrote: Since the format of PDSEs has never been published, and since directory space can be created when needed in non-contiguous areas, I seriously doubt ISPF can read the directory as a PS data set. Well, if reading the directory with QSAM or BSAM counts,