Re: Bind Breaks for z13

2015-12-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
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Re: Bind Breaks for z13

2015-12-16 Thread Rob Schramm
And neatly sidestepped another pedantic war.. 3 cheers!!! Rob Schramm On Wed, Dec 16, 2015, 12:21 PM Jim Mulder wrote: > > I was looking through the z13 and found about Memory management > > optimizations of Bind Breaks for z13. > > > >

Re: Bind Breaks for z13

2015-12-16 Thread Steve Thompson
On 12/16/2015 11:47 AM, John McKown wrote: ​Sombody should "Gibbs slap" them! RSM == "Real Storage Manager" to me. I doubt it is a part of DB2. Just out of curiosity, what does RSM mean in DB2 terms?​ Any why would a z13 do something different? What he said. And now we have a reason for

Re: Bind Breaks for z13

2015-12-16 Thread Jim Mulder
> I was looking through the z13 and found about Memory management > optimizations of Bind Breaks for z13. > > http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1OA46612 > > Can someone please explain on what is bind breaks ? Bind Break is an internal serialization mechanism in z/OS. It

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2015-12-16 Thread Mark Post
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Re: TAR Files:" Extracting" on a IBM Mainframe

2015-12-16 Thread Pinnacle
On 12/16/2015 7:41 PM, Leonard Sasso wrote: Hello ! Anyone know of a product (besides Data21's ZIP/390 Product), that can "extract" a file(s) from a TAR file on a IBM Mainframe - z/OS 2.1 ? Thank You In Advance for your Help, it is appreciated. Len Sasso RDC Applications Management -

Re: Anyone using Rocket Software Performance Essential

2015-12-16 Thread Timothy Sipples
RES Suite Re-Engineering is another optimization tool in this particular category, although it has some unique capabilities. RES Suite Re-Engineering is available through IBM as IBM program number 5655-T71. More information is available here:

Re: 3174 microcode diskettes ordering?

2015-12-16 Thread Timothy Sipples
Yes, 2.4MB 5.25 inch drives and diskettes did exist, but they were very rare in the industry. IBM may have been the only consequential equipment manufacturer that used 2.4MB 5.25 inch drives and diskettes, and only in the IBM 3174 product line to my knowledge. A couple models of the 3174 (41R,

Re: Critique my Binder RCF?

2015-12-16 Thread Jim Mulder
> I think the first CSECT in the Load Module (and the Load Module > itself) is automatically Page Aligned. That is definitely incorrect, at least for load modules in a PDS. Jim Mulder z/OS System Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie, NY

Re: TAR Files:" Extracting" on a IBM Mainframe

2015-12-16 Thread Tony Harminc
On 16 December 2015 at 19:31, Leonard Sasso wrote: > Hello ! > Anyone know of a product (besides Data21's ZIP/390 Product), that can > "extract" a file(s) from a TAR file on a IBM Mainframe - z/OS 2.1 ? Um, I would start with the z/OS tar command. While it may not be the most

TAR Files:" Extracting" on a IBM Mainframe

2015-12-16 Thread Leonard Sasso
Hello ! Anyone know of a product (besides Data21's ZIP/390 Product), that can "extract" a file(s) from a TAR file on a IBM Mainframe - z/OS 2.1 ? Thank You In Advance for your Help, it is appreciated. Len Sasso RDC Applications Management - Professional: System Administrator Backup QMR -

Re: TAR Files:" Extracting" on a IBM Mainframe

2015-12-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2015-12-16 17:54, Pinnacle wrote: > On 12/16/2015 7:41 PM, Leonard Sasso wrote: >> Hello ! >> Anyone know of a product (besides Data21's ZIP/390 Product), that can >> "extract" a file(s) from a TAR file on a IBM Mainframe - z/OS 2.1 ? > > Len, > > You don't need one, you can unspin the

Re: TAR Files:" Extracting" on a IBM Mainframe

2015-12-16 Thread Bigendian Smalls
check on pax command. think there's some overlap there. > On Dec 16, 2015, at 18:54, Pinnacle wrote: > >> On 12/16/2015 7:41 PM, Leonard Sasso wrote: >> Hello ! >> Anyone know of a product (besides Data21's ZIP/390 Product), that can >> "extract" a file(s) from a TAR

Re: Critique my Binder RCF?

2015-12-16 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 09:36 -0500 on 12/16/2015, Peter Relson wrote about Re: Critique my Binder RCF?: I suspect that the the effect of having "(P)" on things other than the first is -- the overall module is given the "P" option (so that it will be page-aligned when loaded -- this is a bit in the directory

Re: JES2 - originating jcl

2015-12-16 Thread Charles Mills
At least the discussion has not digressed into nostalgia about physical card decks and readers ... Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 1:40 AM To:

Re: JES2 - originating jcl

2015-12-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2015-12-16, at 02:40, Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote: > It is astonishing how many words this group needs to reply: "No". > Generally reasonable and relevant explanations in anticipation of the re-reply, "Why not?" Even Shmuel, somewhat uncharacteristically, replied with more than a

Re: JES2 - originating jcl

2015-12-16 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
Well, R1.RD1 comes quite close. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: 16 December, 2015 14:41 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: JES2 - originating jcl At least the discussion has not

Re: JES2 - originating jcl

2015-12-16 Thread Greg Shirey
It happens so rarely - normally the answer is "It depends." :-) Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 3:40 AM To:

Re: Anyone using Rocket Software Performance Essential

2015-12-16 Thread Greg Shirey
Sorry, I don't think I'm understanding you. What product is it that you are saying is free and easiest to use? Thanks, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Mingee Sent: Tuesday,

Re: Critique my Binder RCF?

2015-12-16 Thread Peter Relson
While there is no requirement that all options supported by a grammar be documented, it surely is a requirement that the examples match the documentation. Here, as you point out, they do not. Experimentation shows that the real syntax might be ORDER

Bind Breaks for z13

2015-12-16 Thread Jake Anderson
Hi, I was looking through the z13 and found about Memory management optimizations of Bind Breaks for z13. http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1OA46612 Can someone please explain on what is bind breaks ? Jake --

Re: JES2 - originating jcl

2015-12-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <31191ce0-d3cd-4edc-b151-9847e59db...@aim.com>, on 12/16/2015 at 04:04 AM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said: >Even Shmuel, somewhat uncharacteristically, replied with more than a >monosyllable. I've been known to send voluminuous replies, when

Re: Anyone using Rocket Software Performance Essential

2015-12-16 Thread David Mingee
Sorry for the confusion.  I recommend BMC's Product - Batch Optimizer (Standard Edition).  David Mingee Mainframe Consulting 9206 Aintree Drive Indianapolis, IN  46250 317 288-9588  Home317 903-9455  Cell From: Greg Shirey To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent:

Re: Bind Breaks for z13

2015-12-16 Thread Mike Schwab
ftp://public.dhe.ibm.com/software/systemz/whitepapers/Whitepaper_Campbell_IML14294-USEN-00_Planning_for_IBM_DB2_10_for_zOS_Upgrade_October2011.pdf Page 11. 'Another point to remember is that when you use persistent threads with RELEASE(DEALLOCATE), there is a tradeoff. Doing so will impact

Re: Bind Breaks for z13

2015-12-16 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Mike Schwab wrote: > > ftp://public.dhe.ibm.com/software/systemz/whitepapers/Whitepaper_Campbell_IML14294-USEN-00_Planning_for_IBM_DB2_10_for_zOS_Upgrade_October2011.pdf > Page 11. > > 'Another point to remember is that when you use

Re: JES2 - originating jcl

2015-12-16 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Paul Gilmartin wrote: >I also submit many jobs via FTP; there's a file, but it's pretty far away. First one mentioning FTP! ;-) And JES2 can't certainly find out from WHERE your JCL is coming from. As Shmuel said, JES2 is NOT reading the member, it is the SUBMITTER who reads in the SOURCE of

Re: JES2 - originating jcl

2015-12-16 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
It is astonishing how many words this group needs to reply: "No". Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: 16 December, 2015 10:37 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: JES2 - originating

Re: 3174 microcode diskettes ordering?

2015-12-16 Thread R.S.
AFAIR we were using standard DS/HD diskettes, formatted using 3174 utility. So, try regular "1,2MB" diskettes. IMHO "2,4MB" diskette type never existed, it was only the drive and the format Note, 3,5" had DD, HD and ED type. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2015-12-15 o 23:51,

Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre

2015-12-16 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Mullen, Patrick wrote: >Yes it was a government site (Elardus would know them), and yes the electrical >work was done by a lowest bid contractor. Ouch! You're gossiping about me? ;-D ;-D ;-D Never mind, I don't care if you're discussing me. Now getting the facts straightened out: I'm