OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

It is so boring to work from the house. But better safe tgan sorry [musing type=paranoid]Maybe it's all a conspiracy to RIF me and everybody else is at the building.[/musing] -- People in sleeping bags are the soft tacos of the bear world. Maranatha! <>< John McKown

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

W dniu 19.03.2020 o 12:54, John McKown pisze: It is so boring to work from the house. But better safe tgan sorry [musing type=paranoid]Maybe it's all a conspiracy to RIF me and everybody else is at the building.[/musing] #metoo I have to work from home and force my all team do work from home

Re: Memory-Lane Monday: Documentation just takes up too much space | Computerworld

Unfortunately I saw a ntotice they do not accept any new documents for scanning. BTW: I'm unaware who they are. Is some voluntary organisation or just "lonely wolf"? It would be good to know it, maybe there is a way to support them. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 17.03.2020 o 

Does anybody remember CLIST?

I'm trying to convert CLIIST to REXX and CLIST has symbolic substitution. I've used this before in NCL but it's a long time ago. Can anybody tell me what this does and translate to REXX? I'm guessing I need to use interpret or value()! SET VARNX = & IF ( = ) THEN DO   SET VARFND = 1   SET

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

I think that sample is a perfect example why you shouldn't use REXX for processing complex records! All the magic number offsets and data conversions will only get worse as the complexity of the program increases. On 2020-03-18 1:04 PM, Brian Westerman wrote: How about the rexx exec

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

No, in many -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of David Crayford [dcrayf...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 10:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Memory-Lane Monday: Documentation just takes up too much space | Computerworld

Lone wolf, but a very large lone wolf. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of R.S. [r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 7:41 AM To:

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

I've been working from home for the past ten years or so, and haven't found it boring yet. But that's just me. My team lead at one client told me they're all starting WFH this week. In his case he has something like an hour commute, so it's a blessing for him. I told him that it may very

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 9:20 AM David Crayford wrote: > I'm trying to convert CLIIST to REXX and CLIST has symbolic > substitution. I've used this before in NCL but it's a long time ago. > > Can anybody tell me what this does and translate to REXX? I'm guessing I > need to use interpret or

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

Thanks, I did see that link! I will work it out but looking for a fast start. I've got stuff like this! SRCLINE = (2,) On 2020-03-19 10:40 PM, John McKown wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 9:20 AM David Crayford wrote: I'm trying to convert CLIIST to REXX and CLIST has symbolic substitution.

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

No, in many cases you can use compound variables to avoi9d using value(). The two ugly issues for converting CLIST to REXX are keyword parameters and the stack interface (see DATA PROMPT). VARNX = VARN.VARN.GLCV if VARNX = SYMBOL then do VARFND = 1 VARVX = VARV.VARV.GLCV SYMBOL =

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

Aha! Great explanation. Thank you so much > On 19 Mar 2020, at 11:25 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > In REXX substitution is automatic and literal strings require quoting to > avoid being treated as uninitialized variables; the equivalent of foo > baz is 'foo' bar 'baz'. There in no

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

In REXX substitution is automatic and literal strings require quoting to avoid being treated as uninitialized variables; the equivalent of foo baz is 'foo' bar 'baz'. There in no equivalent to , nor is there a need for it, since REXX doesn't use a substituition sigil like &. -- Shmuel

Re: Memory-Lane Monday: Documentation just takes up too much space | Computerworld

Almost a lone wolf - there are a few other people that contribute scans to bitsavers. The scans just have to be to Al's standards, basically. Still, Al is the 700 pound gorilla in the room. The other 100 pounds is at Wild Hare Computers, but that gorilla focuses on everything and anything Data

Re: Memory-Lane Monday: Documentation just takes up too much space | Computerworld

Al "bitsavers" Kossow has a HUGE backlog of material to scan - something like 25 pallets of stuff or something crazy like that - so scanning and archiving, while constant, picks away at that pile depending on which way the wind blows and who is begging for what. Almost constant, I should say.

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

I used to write in CLIST quite a lot. Then one day I intercepted a warning from IBM that someday soon they might stop supporting CLIST and REXX would become the One and Only; so I picked up a REXX manual and quickly became a fan. (That was decades ago, and CLIST is still around; I've since

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 22:20:23 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >Subject: Does anybody remember CLIST? > Not if I can help it. >I'm trying to convert CLIIST to REXX and CLIST has symbolic >substitution. I've used this before in NCL but it's a long time ago. > >Can anybody tell me what this does and

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 11:04 AM Bob Bridges wrote: > I've been working from home for the past ten years or so, and haven't > found it boring yet. But that's just me. > I get bored because I'm alone, and am used to the chatter. And, right now, not much is going on, so I'm mainly idle. > > My

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

I think there are a lot of shops that are behind the 8-ball on WFH. We have been doing it for many years, so we worked out the problems a long time ago. Phones are easy, just issue an IP phone device to each worker. It's getting them NOW and integrating them that is a problem. It might be

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

yes and I miss the human contact! cheers -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 11:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company On

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

We have been moved to Work from home for the foreseeable future. We have company provided laptop connecting via VPN, and softphone so my office number rings wherever my laptop is connected. Seems to be working out pretty well. It’s the WEBEX server farm that seems to be having the growing

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

I work from home all the time and I have 15 z15's -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

IEALIMIT Linkedit Example?

Does anyone have an example JCL to link IEALIMIT into the nucleus? Im trying to determine if we’ve done that. I see an IEALIMIT module in IEANUC01 but it’s size is different (72 bytes). I suspect it’s the IBM default. But want to be sure. -- Michael Babcock OneMain Financial z/OS Systems

Re: IEALIMIT Linkedit Example?

Execute this and see what's printed out. It should be obvious if the csect has been replaced with user code. //AMASPZAP EXEC PGM=AMASPZAP //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSLIB DD DSN=SYS1.NUCLEUS,DISP=SHR //SYSIN DD * DUMPT IEANUC01 IEALIMIT Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

I forgot CLIST once I learned REXX And Charles you can debug REXX easily -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 1:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Does anybody

Updating CustomPac Dialog libraries

All, Is there a way to update our CustomPac dialog libraries before we order our Z/OS 2.4 ServerPac? I'd like to knock that out before we place our order. Mike Martin This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the

Re: Updating CustomPac Dialog libraries

Not that I am aware of, maybe Marna will know, but that is the very first thing that occurs when you receive your Serverpac _ Dave Jousma AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering  Fifth Third Bank  | 

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

On 3/19/20 12:33 PM, Steve Beaver wrote: I work from home all the time and I have 15 z15's Even if only 1-frame each, that must take up a lot of closet space and make a little tick on the monthly electric bill.  I'd be happy to have space and funds for 1 at home.  :) -- Joel C. Ewing

OT: ‘Cloud-first’ game studio Mainframe raises $8.1M led by Andreessen Horowitz | TechCrunch

https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/19/cloud-first-game-studio-mainframe-raises-8-1m-led-by-andreessen-horowitz/ or *https://tinyurl.com/rus4q74 * Regards, Mark Regan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

Does CLIST have the kind of debugging facility that Rexx has? Can you assign some initial values and then step through the code seeing what is happening? I am going to guess not, but thought it worth asking. I know nada CLIST. When I left the OS/360 family of operating systems somewhere around

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

I think when converting from CLIST to REXX, it helps to know what the code is suppose to do, rather than try to change a line by line process WRITE in Clist is SAY in REXX But logic of the CLIST will help to rewrite it into REXX that is efficient. For me, it has always been easier to rewrite

Re: IEALIMIT Linkedit Example?

We used to have usermod for iealimit, but it was retired quite a few years ago in favor of SMFLIMxx coding. Ours didn’t do much except reserve some memory above and below the line. I know for fact we don’t have one now, and IEALIMIT in IEANUC01 is 72bytes on my system as well.

Re: IEALIMIT Linkedit Example?

One does not need to be using IEALIMIT. It should have been replaced by IEFUSI a while ago. If you are at z/OS 2.3 or higher suggest you get just use new PARMLIB member SMFLIMxx instead of IEFUSI or IEALIMIT. Michael Brennan Mainframe Engineering HCL Technologies Ltd. Tel:408-933-3628

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

REXX with ISPF panels is a cake walk to do -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 2:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Does anybody remember CLIST? I think when

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

Probably in the usual way: "Show up at the office or say goodbye". Type A managers who never did trust their employees to actually work when WFH always seem to take the same approach. Peter "Ignorance is curable, stupidity is fatal." - R. Heinlein, Notebooks of Lazarus Long -Original

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

No, && expands to & and thus & initially expands to and that expands to the value of foo. But consider &, where bar has the value baz. That expands to and then to the value of foobaz; the value of bar doesn't enter into it. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

Then there is the bean counter point of view - Look how much office space we don't need anymore! John T. Abell Tel:800-295-7608Option 4 President International: 1-416-593-5578 Option 4 E-mail: john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com Fax:800-295-7609

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

No, && -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 12:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject:

Re: Updating CustomPac Dialog libraries

That would be a good thing. On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 6:47 AM Jousma, David < 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Not that I am aware of, maybe Marna will know, but that is the very first > thing that occurs when you receive your Serverpac > > >

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

As mentioned above, EXECIO is part of TSO REXX.    The problem is not EXECIO but with reading the records of a dataset assigned to an arbitrary DDNAME passed as a parm to REXX.   Consider the folowing:   //* //* NOTE: 'U' => TSO

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

I'm a REXX advocate, and I have used it for that type of data, but it's so much cleaner in PL/I. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Dale R. Smith Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

35 years ago, I started teaching Dept of Energy sysprogs that with proper communications, there were only three things we could not do. 1) mount / unmount tapes on tape drives 2) tear paper off the printer 3) press the power button When we finally got rid of the Mainframe last August, there

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

Real REXX? Would that be oorexx? I don't see no stinking ddnames there. No if IBM would provide a proper TSO interface for oorexx, ... -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

I don't see the problem. /* REXX */ parse arg upper ddn1 ddn2 EXECIO DISKR ddn1 1 '(' STEM foo. do i=1 to foo.0 say 'Line' i 'is' foo.i end -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

My curiosity is how are these companies that have forced everyone to WFH going to get people back on-site In a couple of months without a MAJOR REVOLT on their hands Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Joel C.

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

I just jack the price $50/HR and they shut up -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 7:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

Yes, Clist (or C-List) can debug as follows:   PROC 0 DEBUG /*---*/ /* CLIST TO SWITCH PRIMARY/SECONDARY PFKEYS  */ /*   */

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 21:04:27 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >I think that sample is a perfect example why you shouldn't use REXX for >processing complex records! > >All the magic number offsets and data conversions will only get worse as >the complexity of the program increases. Which is why REXX

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

Worked from home many times. In the 70's I had no comms except for a phone. Managed to crack out lots of code in a short time without office interruptions. Stretched it a bit when "working from from home" in Hawaii but nobody noticed. A four year stint of working from home 2008-2012 was great

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

When I've been told by recruiters that I have to be on site, I try to get them to understand that for Systems Programming, there is almost no good reason to ever be on site. I also tell them that if the boss really wants to see my ugly face and that I'm not goofing off, I will start a Skype (or

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 00:33:40 +, CM Poncelet wrote: > ... >BTW Some things can be done in Clist which cannot (well at least not >easily) be done in REXX, e.g. opening/reading a dataset associated with >a DDNAME passed as a parm to a Clist submitted as a batch TSO job via >JCL... > If

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

EXECIO has been a part of TSO/E REXX since day one. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Thursday, March 19,

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 01:33:13 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >EXECIO has been a part of TSO/E REXX since day one. > Oh! *That* Rexx! I was thinking of tht *real* rexx. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

I'm not knocking your code which looks very good, but yet again it's a good example of why REXX is a poor language for processing binary data. I don't use REXX much these days. On z/OS I use either Lua [1] or Python [2], mainly Lua as it runs in TSO/ISPF which Python doesn't. Both languages