Paul,
That's a question with many right answers. I receive all maintenance on a
weekly basis which includes current holddata. We only do two maintenance
cycles a year (our prod lpars only see two IPL's per year). Once maintenance
cycle is done, then nothing gets applied unless we run into
On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 16:30:01 +, Doug wrote:
>Yes its true, but before you let a disk spin backwards, you checked the
>fans in the logic gate, they were 3 ph too. Depending on how they spun
>(clockwise or counterclockwise), you had the phases corrected. I never
>spun up a drive that went
> Yes its true, but before you let a disk spin backwards, you checked the
> fans in the logic gate, they were 3 ph too. Depending on how they spun
> (clockwise or counterclockwise), you had the phases corrected. I never
> spun up a drive that went backward using that technique.
> And if it was say
DC rules
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> On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 16:30:01 +, Doug wrote:
>
> >Yes its true, but before you let a disk spin backwards, you checked the
> >fans in the logic gate, they were 3 ph too. Depending on
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I will look into what I need. If anyone happens to know right off it would save
me RTFM.
I can grant the access; I just need to know what to grant.
Charles
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OPERCMDS MVS.DISPLAY.* if I remember correctly.
On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 6:19 PM Feller, Paul <
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> Charles, that's a loaded question/answer. You need to have the
> ISF.CONNECT resource defined in the SDSF class to allow access to
Charles, that's a loaded question/answer. You need to have the ISF.CONNECT
resource defined in the SDSF class to allow access to SDSFAUX. Plus some
variation of the ISFCMD.ODSP.SYSTEM resource defined in the SDSF class to allow
for the use of the SYS panel. The SDSF Operation and
Well its pretty simple. Each phase has a 0 degree point for the rise and
fall of the sine wave. You wire each phase to its corresponding 60 degree
out connection on the relay coil. So, if the phases dont line up, you
dont get a strong enough magnetic field to close the relay.
Joe
On Mon, Jun 22,
I put in enough 65's, 50's, 75's, 155's, etc. and related gear. Been a
long time but I used the fan rotation to tell if the phases were in
phase. Might have been single phase and if one of the phases were off
they spun the wrong way. But I got burned on this in Sao Paulo back in
the late 70's.
> h:\Vendors\ArcaNoae\firefox\005B_01.TRP
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If you are only interested in which datasets are on which volumes, then
DCOLLECT would surely do the job.
On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 at 15:45, Brian France wrote:
> Many thanks to all the responses!!!
>
> David,
>
> Thank you!!! This is exactly what we are looking for. I just
> changed a sort to
On 6/22/20 1:09 PM, William Donzelli wrote:
Also, if I could post an image to this list, I would show what a
standard IBM phase rotation sensor looks like. I have a box of them.
They are basically just relays with three windings on the core,
and unless the phases are hooked up properly, they
> DC rules
AC rules are harder, because of the extra Z.
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2020, at 18:41, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> Read action and documentation hold information before
> you bypass.
Back in the day, I didn't just read it. I kept notes on what I'd read,
& why I'd decided that the actions / whatever did or did not need
to be done.
Usually I
Hi Charles,
Changing the image profile requires a deactivation and reactivation of
the LPAR, so if the LPAR isn't already defined to allow dynamic storage
reconfiguration, you will need one IPL to get to the new state where it
is. The manual for this is the PR/SM Planning Guide, which has a
Today is real storage day. Sorry for the elementary questions.
The folks that own the box as a whole have added memory to our LPAR. Do we
need to IPL to pick that up in z/OS, or is there a command or similar
process? I thought I heard at a SHARE presentation that it could be done
dynamically, but
Well, in what was apparently a bit of a miscommunication, the box owners IPLed
our LPAR, so the issue is now moot. But the storage is there!
Thanks all,
Charles
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On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 10:57 AM Feller, Paul <
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> So here are a few questions for the group. First I'll say we run a weekly
> receive process to pull all the needed stuff from IBM. My questions
No. Might have to add it to the image profile on the HMC, and if already
there, then a CONFIG command on the console.
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There is massive variation in installation policy. However, I recommend
Receive HOLDDATA more often than service
Receive HIPER more often than RSU
Monitor HIPER service frequently
Read action and documentation hold information before
you bypass.
Backup
Document
Playing around, I see that /D M with no =anything gives the information
also, but the real storage display rolls off the screen.
What does the M in DISPLAY M stand for? systeM ?
Charles
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DISPLAY MATRIX I think.
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MATRIX :)
if you're 2.2 or above systems, the SDSF SYS command can show alot of system
info - requires SDSFAUX I believe
Carmen Vitullo
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Yup, that's what it means. systeM.
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Playing around, I see that /D M with no
Hello everyone,
I am looking for SMP/e methodologies about a couple of situations within SMP/e.
Just looking for how people do SMP/e maintenance in certain situations.
1) What methodology is employed to get to a clean Apply Check, when you
outstanding Error Holds? APARs without PTFs,
Hi Saurabh,
I only run WAS Liberty in CICS so I cannot help install the admin center.
But if java cannot find something it usually means that the classpath is not
correct.
Please list the script that is failing
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Yes, because z/OS (well, the allocation routines anyway) knows nothing of the
back-end storage. As far as z/OS is concerned its data is still sitting on
SLED 3390 volumes so things like free extent sizes and so on still matter.
Rex
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The important thing is to receive current HOLDATA frequently. I always review
AXTION and DOCUMENTATION holds.
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I agree with Dave completely. I do similar - on both APPLY CHECK and APPLY.
Why spend an inordinate amount of time telling SMP/E manually to do what SMP/E
is designed to do automatically. Let it skip the open APARs and other things
that will cause a "bad" return code. Like Dave said, just
I do not attempt to get a RC0 or RC4 apply. What goes on goes on. Obviously
review results to make sure that there wasn't an issue, but coding up a bunch
of excludes to not select those with holderror just to get a RC0 is not
necessary in my opinion.
Here is one apply example
APPLY CHECK
Interesting. Thanks Dave.
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Dave,
So, if you get RC=8, you run the Apply anyway, just letting SMP/e determine
what PTFs can be applied, correct? If that is the case, that would simplify
the SMP/e apply process.
Thanks,
Jerry
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IBM assigned an APAR number on Friday to this. It is APAR OA59800.
Thanks,
Rex
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Not
I follow that methodology also, + as others have said
receive holddata weekly and I will periodically run a MISSING FIX report
remember to add the SMPPUCH DD to the JCL procedure
//REPORT EXEC PGM=GIMSMP,
// REGION=0M,
// TIME=1439,
// PARM='DATE=U,CSI=SMPE.ZOSV2R3.GLOBAL.CSI'
//SMPHRPT
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>Kirk - thank you for the ideas.
>
>What I'm doing is in the ZIGI (see https://zigi.rocks) where I need to copy
>PDS members to/from USS so that Git can manage them. With small projects this
>isn't an issue but with larger projects it
Examining the report is the better way. SMP and service distribution are
greatly improved from what they were, and a lot of the manual processing is no
longer necessary. In particular, the handling of service flagged PE is
automatic unless HOLDDATA is broken.
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Yes.As Rex pointed out, the first part of the output in the SMPRPT DD
statement will be the listing of what PTF's did NOT go on, and why. You'll
want to review that, and make sure the only ones that did not go on were the
ones with Errorhold. If a PTF you wanted to go on didn't, it will
And yes, I check the SMPRPT for various items, like Usermods, Missing PTFs,
etc. Thanks again.
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Thank you Carmen.
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Hi Folks,
Hope you're all well. Stay safe.
This is just a suggestion, but it may help people to find some
tools they might need, on occasion.
CBT Tape File 874 (www.cbttape.org) - always check the Updates page
first - has a collection of TSO HELP members for a sizable
Thx for that info...
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That is exactly the information I was looking for. Thank you, very much. I
thought there had to be some "better" methodologies to apply SMP/e. :)
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Many thanks to all the responses!!!
David,
Thank you!!! This is exactly what we are looking for. I just
changed a sort to be "volume,a" and pretty much have the report we use
via fdr compaktor.
Someone asked did this really matter for raid... we use it to recall
data sets got
Dumb question of the week: is there a command to display the amount of real
storage configured for the LPAR?
I did all of the obvious (to me) searches in System Commands.
Thanks!
Charles
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Yes its true, but before you let a disk spin backwards, you checked the
fans in the logic gate, they were 3 ph too. Depending on how they spun
(clockwise or counterclockwise), you had the phases corrected. I never
spun up a drive that went backward using that technique.
And if it was say a
There was a SHARE presentation early 80's by the 'Fat Boys' from Quantico that
tried to plug a Siemens 3-phase printer into a 4361. I don't know/remember what
they did wrong but they had load of pictures of blown out T05 cans from the CPU.
In a message dated 6/22/2020 11:05:28 AM Central
Gracias!
Charles
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The same happened when CA bought Uccel. All of the UCCnn messages became
CA-nn.
On 6/21/20 12:41 PM, Tom Brennan wrote:
Side note: I had to chuckle when I first saw "NDM" replaced in all
the messages and screens with "C:D". Hey, a 3 character replace and
we're done without having to worry
So here are a few questions for the group. First I'll say we run a weekly
receive process to pull all the needed stuff from IBM. My questions are this.
Do you apply only PE fixes and hipers monthly and RSU stuff quarterly? How
long do you wait between applies in terms of moving fixes
All three phase IBM stuff from that era I have seen have phase
rotation sensors, and will simply not go through the proper power
sequence unless everything is fine.
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On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 11:35 AM Pommier, Rex wrote:
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> Hi group,
>
> I have a light - probably trivia by now - question
On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 15:34:37 +, Pommier, Rex wrote:
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>I have a light - probably trivia by now - question for those of you who have
>been around a while. My earliest experience with IBM disk was 3380s. They
>ran 3 phase power, and if the phases weren't cabled correctly, the machine
Hi group,
I have a light - probably trivia by now - question for those of you who have
been around a while. My earliest experience with IBM disk was 3380s. They ran
3 phase power, and if the phases weren't cabled correctly, the machine wouldn't
power up. I seem to recall hearing stories of
fwiw, a 3-phase motor rotates with the phase order it gets. As mentioned,
the wrong direction would presumably be a very bad thing for disk drives,
so they don't let it happen. Anyone else's guess on the rest of the
electronics.
sas
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