Re: z/TPF questions

2021-03-20 Thread Jonathan Quay
You'll find a bit more discussion about it on the VM listserv. While z/OS is a requirement for the care and feeding of z/TPF, we use VM extensively as a development and test platform. And yes, a hotel is an airplane without wings. We used TPF for rates and inventory at Holiday Inn/BHR/IHG

RFE: ISPF Edit highlighting for [fill-in-your-language]

2021-03-20 Thread Robert Prins
Maybe you've asked the IBM RFE site to send you an email when someone posts an RFE, I have done so for PL/I, TSO, HLASM, ISPF, and SDSF, and at the last few weeks I've been bombarded (in the nice sense) with emails like RFE created ID:149399 ISPF Edit highlighting for ACS routines all posted

Re: z/TPF questions

2021-03-20 Thread Mike Shorkend
I worked at an airline in the 90s. I was on the OS/390 team.There was an equivalent(much larger) TPF team. it is a very unique operating system. All it could do (and did it very well) was handle high volumes of transactions and database calls. I expect it has not changed much. Everything else,

Re: z/TPF questions

2021-03-20 Thread Mike Shorkend
Also , there is a z/OS based product - ALCS - which provides the same functionality as TPF without the overhead of additional hardware, operating system , operational costs etc . So targeted at smaller shops. On Sat, 20 Mar 2021 at 12:13, Mike Shorkend wrote: > I worked at an airline in the

Re: z/TPF questions

2021-03-20 Thread Parwez Hamid
Others have already covered some of the points and there is more about the history of z/TPF here - (I won't repeat what's already mentioned Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transaction_Processing_Facility

Re: z/TPF questions

2021-03-20 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
Well, I thought there are important differences: - hotels usually have more "seats". - hotel have no time schedule for departures and arrivals. You cannot book a seat 5 minutes after departure, while in hotel it is possible all the time. IMHO this is the most important difference. - of course

Re: This Call-Assembler-inside-COBOL technique works, but is it risky to use?

2021-03-20 Thread Rupert Reynolds
I tried something similar in PL/1, many years ago. If I remember right, I had to have two pointers, one based(addr(other_pointer)). All this to achieve R1 -> ptr -> list of TUPs for SVC 99. One of them was a pointer to a function. It looked dirty to me, but... I showed the guy running the team,

Re: z/TPF questions

2021-03-20 Thread Attila Fogarasi
Programs on ACP were limited to 4k size originally, and files were limited to 2 record sizes (short and long), the sizes being optimized for 3211 disk geometry. Those limitations were removed 40 years ago :) However the speed of zTPF comes from not allowing applications to do things that require

Re: Overlapped I/O completion

2021-03-20 Thread Michael Stein
On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 03:58:57PM -0400, Joseph Reichman wrote: > Data is not there after check Most likely reason is that the READ isn't complete yet. Possibly was never issued (yet). BSAM works. It's not as easy to use as QSAM, nor very easy to do overlapped I/O as QSAM (which does it

Re: Overlapped I/O completion

2021-03-20 Thread Michael Stein
On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 08:08:28PM -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 21:50:57 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > >> Is there any reason to do a WAIT before the CHECK? > >EOV processing. Normally a CHECK just waits on the ECB and does a minimal amount of processing. If there is

Re: z/TPF questions

2021-03-20 Thread Tom Brennan
On 3/20/2021 7:09 AM, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: To be honest, out of curiosity I always peek the systems in use when I'm served as customer. Me too! When I first started going to Kaiser the doctors had Attachmate running with a long row of PF key buttons across the bottom of the screen.

Re: Contents of TOD Programmable Field under z/OS?

2021-03-20 Thread Peter Vander Woude
Peter, I don't know if this could be the base of what you need, however I'd like to point you to a github page for something that Walmart did for generating unique zUID, guaranteed to be unique until the year 34,000 (built with patent pending algorithm). It was built as a cloud solution,

Re: Contents of TOD Programmable Field under z/OS?

2021-03-20 Thread Peter Relson
-- It appears that the "uniqueness" applied by the programmable field is limited to the sysplex. It has nothing to do with an LPAR (aside from that z/OS runs within one). There is no uniqueness across sysplexes. -- It appears that the current implementation uses the "system number" managed by

Epoch Index

2021-03-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
PoOps "Figure 4-12. Format of the TOD Clock, ..." shows that SCK does not affect the Epoch Index. "Additionally, the PTFF instruction [*may*] manipulate the TOD clock and epoch index, ..." "may" or perhaps not? I tired of searching before I found particulars of PTFF. Is it anticipated that

Re: Contents of TOD Programmable Field under z/OS?

2021-03-20 Thread Charles Mills
STCKE is I believe guaranteed unique by architecture. Db2 would fall on its face without that. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 9:55 PM To:

Re: Contents of TOD Programmable Field under z/OS?

2021-03-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 20 Mar 2021 10:42:46 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >STCKE is I believe guaranteed unique by architecture. Db2 would fall on its >face without that. > Understood, but I know no guarantee that any proper substring of the STCKE value is unique. >-Original Message- >From: Paul

Re: Overlapped I/O completion

2021-03-20 Thread Michael Stein
On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 03:35:39PM -0400, Joseph Reichman wrote: > So this is what I will do > > I’ll do 3 reads in the first since i need to get myself going I’ll issue the > WAIT using the ECB from the DECB Limiting the pending reads to 3 will limit the performance to worse (or at least no

Re: Contents of TOD Programmable Field under z/OS?

2021-03-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 20 Mar 2021 04:54:34 +, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: >In reverse order of your questions: > Why not write each answer after the matching question as was once the custom? It's easier to read that way. >Sorry, I am not free to discuss the actual application details. > >And I did not

Re: Overlapped I/O completion

2021-03-20 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 14:09:59 -0400 Joseph Reichman wrote: :>When doing overlapped I/O is there a way to tell if the I/O had completed on the subsequent reads :>I check to see if the first fullword has been populated by the BDW Did you try without overlapping I/O? Post the code. -- Binyamin

CMS equivalent of ISPF SRCHFOR?

2021-03-20 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Is there a CMS command which will search a minidisk (or group of minidisks) for files containing a specific string? Don't see anything obvious in the CMS manual. -- Binyamin Dissen http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar & Grill - Israel

Re: z/TPF questions

2021-03-20 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 20.03.2021 o 17:42, Tom Brennan pisze: On 3/20/2021 7:09 AM, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: To be honest, out of curiosity I always peek the systems in use when I'm served as customer. Me too!  When I first started going to Kaiser the doctors had Attachmate running with a long row of PF

Re: CMS equivalent of ISPF SRCHFOR?

2021-03-20 Thread Attila Fogarasi
I normally use SuperC which is sold as part of the HLASM Toolkit. I don't know if there is a free version. On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 7:09 AM Binyamin Dissen wrote: > Is there a CMS command which will search a minidisk (or group of minidisks) > for files containing a specific string? > > Don't

Re: CMS equivalent of ISPF SRCHFOR?

2021-03-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 20 Mar 2021 22:09:06 +0200, Binyamin Dissen wrote: >Is there a CMS command which will search a minidisk (or group of minidisks) >for files containing a specific string? > >Don't see anything obvious in the CMS manual. > Ask on IBMVM and CMS-PIPELINES. I've used SRCHFOR from the rare and

Re: CMS equivalent of ISPF SRCHFOR?

2021-03-20 Thread Tony Thigpen
There is not a 'standard' search tool in VM. There are numinous versions that are available for the asking. Just post a request on the VM list. Almost all of them are just a rexx wrapper for the xedit locate function. I have attached one of my may versions, the one I use mostly. Tony Thigpen

Re: z/TPF questions

2021-03-20 Thread Charles Mills
My wild guess is that Tom Brennan knows a TN3270 client when he sees one. @Tom: Was it yours? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Radoslaw Skorupka Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2021 3:31 PM To:

Re: z/TPF questions

2021-03-20 Thread Tom Brennan
On 3/20/2021 3:31 PM, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: W dniu 20.03.2021 o 17:42, Tom Brennan pisze: Curious: are you sure it is 3270, not 5250? AS/400 family is quite popular in retail. Not sure! I didn't think of 5250 since I was brought up on a 3270. But either way, it was probably running old

Re: z/TPF questions

2021-03-20 Thread Tom Brennan
Ha ha... I didn't get a good look, I just saw fields and text that appeared to be 3270. No it wasn't mine :) On 3/20/2021 4:40 PM, Charles Mills wrote: My wild guess is that Tom Brennan knows a TN3270 client when he sees one. @Tom: Was it yours? Charles -Original Message- From:

Re: CMS equivalent of ISPF SRCHFOR?

2021-03-20 Thread Phil Smith III
>numinous "having a strong religious or spiritual quality; indicating or suggesting the presence of a divinity." ?? Seems to be overstating it a bit.  SEARCH4 is my go-to tool. I have source; it’s from Cornell originally but we added case insensitivity and a few other things. Email

Re: CMS equivalent of ISPF SRCHFOR?

2021-03-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 20 Mar 2021 21:57:34 -0400, Phil Smith III wrote: >>numinous > I saw that. And there were a couple characters in the EXECIO that aren't on my keyboard. Needs comments. I puzzled long about what the IF was trying to do with wildcards. I applaud putting the label on the ITERATE. I

Re: CMS equivalent of ISPF SRCHFOR?

2021-03-20 Thread Phil Smith III
I just found my version of the SEARCH4 code on http://ukcc.uky.edu/~tools/1998/ so anyone who wants it can get it there. Obviously let me know if that doesn't work. Hint: the Sterling email addresses will NOT work! -- For