Hi Carmen,
Ed's got the Notification response. If you'd like more (like an email), please
let's get it written down in an RFE so we can get it on the record.
For the Help: actually, I've found that unlike other Help (in ISPF) this
z/OSMF Help is pretty good. If you find you need field help
[Written at risk of receiving a lot of "I've done it this way and I will not
change" kind of responses... :) ]
The Workflow interface is meant to allow you to assign and track steps to
certain people. Even en masse where you can put all Security items to one
person, Networking items to
Actually, the z/PDTLE license *does* prohibit using it to develop software
to be sold.
On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 9:52 AM Tony Harminc wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 at 07:33, Joseph Reichman
> wrote:
>
> > At the time of my re-newel I asked my rep
> > Why do I have to pay so much money
> > When
On 3/25/2022 7:52 AM, Tony Harminc wrote:
On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 at 07:33, Joseph Reichman wrote:
At the time of my re-newel I asked my rep
Why do I have to pay so much money
When the learners edition is only a few hundred dollars
And they responded well that’s because you have z/PDT personal
M4?
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well there's the issue, notification inside z/OSMF, my team, most of my
team never has logged onto z/OSMF, they have no reason, I've wrote doc,
provided step by step directions from logon to the uses of z/OSMF, to
date only my DB2, TCP/IP guy has ever logged on.
external notification would be
On 3/25/2022 8:48 AM, Tony Harminc wrote:
I thought it was pretty clear that what Joseph has, and what I
commented on, is not the "nobody actually has it yet" Learner's
Edition, but the long standing Personal Edition. Obviously I was
wrong.
Joseph's question/comment was:
Why do I have to
And from what I've been told the LE also precludes doing open source
development ☹
Unless that has changed.
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are, reputation
Since you responded to my post maybe you
Can answer a question
At the time of my re-newel I asked my rep
Why do I have to pay so much money
When the learners edition is only a few hundred dollars
And they responded well that’s because you have z/PDT personal edition and can
sell software
I'm pretty sure that SVC 121 is just a client of ABP/MM. I don't know whether
eithyer PDSE or HFS use it. As usual, I would love to know of any relevant
documents that wiki considers reliable sources.
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IIRC you can’t sell any artifacts (binaries and such) as they must be built on
real IBM Z hardware. Perhaps this has changed but it was a terms and condition
way to ensure that real hardware is used for real products.
Matt Hogstrom
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately
On 3/25/2022 8:18 AM, Carmen Vitullo wrote:
Marna, thank you, I've used my workflow during my migration from z/OS
2.3 to 2.4, I've used the assign field to assign tasks to team
members, 2 issues;
1) what's the format of the ID? what mechanism is used, if any, to
notify the teammate that a
Classification: Confidential
The last time I looked, DF/SORT required single extent SORTWK. SYNCSORT did
not.
I suspect that SORTWKxx overrode SMS.
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To:
Marna, thank you, I've used my workflow during my migration from z/OS 2.3 to
2.4, I've used the assign field to assign tasks to team members, 2 issues;
1) what's the format of the ID? what mechanism is used, if any, to notify the
teammate that a task is assigned to them, its not working for
My sales rep indicated that when I finish developing my software I apply and
rent time on a LPAR on real iron I.E z15
Thanks
> On Mar 25, 2022, at 11:05 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote:
>
> On 3/25/2022 7:52 AM, Tony Harminc wrote:
>>> On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 at 07:33, Joseph Reichman wrote:
>>>
>>> At
Vaguely related, can anyone comment on the assertions that PL/I was
considered "too slow" back in the old days, and that it was "too verbose
for writing system code"? Excuse me? MVS system macros are stuffed with its
close relative, PL/S!
I can see its size would make compiling slow on limited
Definitely for the 2741; I don't recall whether APL supported the 2740 or 1050.
And, of course, there were APL options on many 3270 devices.
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 at 07:33, Joseph Reichman wrote:
> At the time of my re-newel I asked my rep
> Why do I have to pay so much money
> When the learners edition is only a few hundred dollars
>
> And they responded well that’s because you have z/PDT personal edition and
> can sell software you
On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 at 11:05, Ed Jaffe wrote:
>
> On 3/25/2022 7:52 AM, Tony Harminc wrote:
[...]
> > I doubt that the personal edition licence prohibits you from selling
> > software that you develop. But even if I am wrong on that...
>
> It most certainly does!!! Commercial use of any kind is
On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 at 12:01, Ed Jaffe wrote:
>
> On 3/25/2022 8:48 AM, Tony Harminc wrote:
> >
> > I thought it was pretty clear that what Joseph has, and what I
> > commented on, is not the "nobody actually has it yet" Learner's
> > Edition, but the long standing Personal Edition. Obviously I
On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 at 14:10, Pierre Fichaud wrote:
>
> At our college, we had an APL terminal.
> I wrote a couple of programs.
> A very powerful language and quite cryptic.
> Programs were coded in RPN, weren't they?
Not RPN, but APL has no operator precedence, so if you expect 3+4x2 to
come
let me check, Kurt, but notification's have been defined and turned on
I received an email from the z/OSMF team suggesting I open an RFE for
this function
Carmen
On 3/25/2022 1:46 PM, Kurt J. Quackenbush wrote:
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of
Carmen Vitullo
Sent:
ok, the user tab was setup to use the SMTP user used to logon to the
SMTP server, I changed this to my email addy, I'll see if this gets me
any email notification
thanks Kurt
Carmen
On 3/25/2022 1:50 PM, Carmen Vitullo wrote:
let me check, Kurt, but notification's have been defined and
On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 at 14:47, Carmen Vitullo wrote:
>
> I don't want to keep dragging this thread around but I always wonders
> what APL was used for? or what maybe our IBM guys was doing 8 hrs a day
> on an APL terminal )
IBM used APL internally extensively in the 1980s, and I'll bet there
are
excellent info thanks so much Charles
Carmen
On 3/25/2022 2:02 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
I got into a discussion with a retired neighbor about this and he wrote me
I've written system software in assembly and C, when I was writing extensions
to APL interpreters, but found those languages so
What that ... ???
That really surprises me. Glad I never tried APL. I can't remember,
but I think there was one guy in our shop who did use it - at least I
remember all the hieroglyphics on his keyboard.
On 3/25/2022 11:10 AM, Tony Harminc wrote:
Not RPN, but APL has no operator
I don't want to keep dragging this thread around but I always wonders
what APL was used for? or what maybe our IBM guys was doing 8 hrs a day
on an APL terminal )
Carmen
On 3/25/2022 1:10 PM, Tony Harminc wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 at 14:10, Pierre Fichaud wrote:
At our college, we had an
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Carmen Vitullo
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2022 11:28 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OSMF Migration Workflow Question
> well there's the issue, notification inside z/OSMF,
Whoa, I'm pretty sure you can tell z/OSMF
I got into a discussion with a retired neighbor about this and he wrote me
I've written system software in assembly and C, when I was writing extensions
to APL interpreters, but found those languages so much less agreeable than
writing in APL that I switched to writing in another high-level
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_E._Iverson
Charles
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I wonder, the
I’m in a bit of new territory in terms os working with the root file system for
USS.
I have a small sysplex for development and recently I was looking to install
some additional software that I’d like to place under a mount point off `/`. I
could find something existing but it is more
I'm too lazy for that. On a UNIX she'll prompt, or TSO OMVS, I enter:
chmount -w /
mkdir /bubbaJ
chmount -r /
On Fri, Mar 25, 2022, 15:36 Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> I’m in a bit of new territory in terms os working with the root file
> system for USS.
>
> I have a small sysplex for development
I think I have personal addition
> On Mar 25, 2022, at 11:47 AM, Joseph Reichman wrote:
>
> My sales rep indicated that when I finish developing my software I apply and
> rent time on a LPAR on real iron I.E z15
> Thanks
>
>
>
>> On Mar 25, 2022, at 11:05 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote:
>>
>> On
On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 13:04:37 +, Allan Staller wrote:
>Classification: Confidential
>
>The last time I looked, DF/SORT required single extent SORTWK. SYNCSORT did
>not.
>
>I suspect that SORTWKxx overrode SMS.
>
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>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of
I wonder, the name Ken Iverson is so familiar, does anyone know if he
taught any MVS Structure classes for IBM in NY?
I recall my teacher talking about the history of MVS, how it started,
why it was designed as to what it is now, and he talked like he was one
of the developers. just curious
Hi Carmen,
At different jobs in the '80s:
1) "Decision Support" with the ADRS add-on (at a computer hardware company)
2) crunching Nielsen marketing data (at a large multi-national food company)
3) actuarial stuff (insurance)
Regards,
David
On 2022-03-25 14:47, Carmen Vitullo wrote:
I don't
On 2022-03-25 16:36 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
I am getting these messages when attempting to mount as RDWR … READ mounts fine.
IOS000I 0AA4,EF,WRI,E7,0200,,56E8,MT24R1,CATALOG ,
8002A4000CA0A1A2A3A4000300E2000C
IOS000I
I couldn't resist. Here's a REXX solution. Should work for any layout which
is defined in the manner of the original request, although my test data
only has the header in the first record.
On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 7:47 AM Don Johnson <
02ee771a0785-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
Oh, not at all. At least in the 80s, all of the nice things were separately
charged program products, and the PL/I Optimizer was definitely in that
category. You could use the PL/I F compiler from MVT if you wanted and
could get your hands on a copy, though, at no charge.
On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at
I think Pl/I was "free" before IBM unbundled software. I started in 1975
and we had the F level and Optimizing compiler. Most of our senior
programmers wrote in Assembler but my first year was all PL/I, Assembler
came later. We never used COBOL but had RPG and Mark IV. A couple of years
later we
>From 1970 to 1972, I was in a shop that made the transition from PL/I F to
the PL/I optimizing compiler. I would frequently use the LIST compiler
option to look at the machine code generated and found that the PL/I F
compiler generated quite poor code, frequently having to make a library
call
Gord,
I think that might be it. I had checked that they were not read-only in z/OS
but you are correct. These systems are running under z/VM so I’ll need to
check with them to confirm but that makes perfect sense.
If anyone is interested, the 3 MVS systems are in a SYSPLEX under z/VM
AFAIK The reason PL/I was not 'more popular' was its high license fee.
Meanwhile, I've known people use even COBOL to write/maintain system code.
As for me, I wrote all system code in assembler - bar adhoc stuff, as in
to be executed once only (e.g. to convert CICS DFHCSD [?] RDO-defined
LU2
License fee? I always assumed PL/I sort of came with the OS. I didn't think
it'd be any extra.
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Hi Sri,
Yes, I took a few shortcuts!
If I were to build a complete solution, I would parse the attributes and
dynamically build the file tailoring skeleton.
The underlying data comes from CA (Broadcoms) Datacom sample database. I
expect that similar table extracts may be required for porting to
Dallas - ISV which means zPDT and tends to get the ADCD a bit quicker
Passport Advantage - means ZD systems and this ADCD is packaged slightly
differently. In fact an ISV wouldn't be able to use it and vice-versa
Sebastian
>Just opened a ticket was told will get a response by tommorow
>
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