Re: Does z/OS 2.1 support COBOL 4.2?

2013-09-19 Thread Marna WALLE
Willie,
COBOL 4.2 is supported with z/OS V2.1.  This is how I found it out (and you can 
use this process in general, to see any product that is supported with z/OS 
V2.1):

1) Look in Appendix B of the z/OS V2.1 Planning for Installation book, 
specifically Table 11.  This book has been available since z/OS V2.1 was GA 
announced.
2) If it is not listed in that table (which COBOL is not), then look at the 
website that has EOS dates already given by a helpful poster:  
http://www-01.ibm.com/software/support/lifecycle/ .  If the product is NOT EOS 
and is NOT listed in Table 11, then it's supported on z/OS V2.1.  (COBOL 4.2 
has had no EOS date announced.)  Another extremely helpful way to find EOS 
products is to use the z/OSMF Software Management function - it is very slick 
and is specific to your system!

I have never seen website 
http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/prodguid/v1r0/clarity/osForProduct.html until 
now.  Looking at it, it doesn't have the operating system level itself in the 
table.  It does list Communications Server from the operating system, and lots 
of middleware.  This, unfortunately, does not contain all the stack software 
and only appears to contain the Software Group products.  I can't speak about 
how that is maintained or provided, sorry.  I do know about how we provide the 
requirements for the operating system, though.

As always to make sure you are at the correct service level of a product, use 
the handy SMP/E FIXCAT IBM.TargetSystem-RequiredService.z/OS.V2R1 to do that.

-Marna WALLE
z/OS System Install
IBM Server Technology Group, Poughkeepsie

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Re: Does z/OS 2.1 support COBOL 4.2?

2013-09-19 Thread Tony Harminc
On 18 September 2013 11:39, John P Kalinich jkali...@csc.com wrote:
 This web link has end of service dates for IBM products.

 http://www-01.ibm.com/software/support/lifecycle/index_e.html

Where clicking on the z/OS 1.13 line gives me a nice friendly IBM message:


Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was
unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, [no address given] and inform
them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done
that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.


I particularly like the blame the victim and administratorless
system attitudes...

Tony H.

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Re: Does z/OS 2.1 support COBOL 4.2?

2013-09-18 Thread Jan Vanbrabant
Good question!

Because  the Software Product Compatibility Reports tool
http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/prodguid/v1r0/clarity/index.jsp
doesn't know anything (yet) about z/OS V2.1.
I did a fdbk about this. No answer yet.


But I'm sure z/OS V2.1 supports COBOL 4.2
Often in the announcement letters under Software requirements  is
indicated such a thing as:
   Version/Release  xyz  or  later.
Didn' check the 4.2 announcement letter, but i'm sure  the or later'  is
there.

Jan


On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Rouse, Willie wro...@co.pg.md.us wrote:

 Hello All,

 I would like to know where to find what IBM products z/OS 2.1 supports.

 Respectfully,
 Willie C. Rouse
 Senior Mainframe Consultant
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 Office of Information Technology
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 Fax: 301-883-3790



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Re: Does z/OS 2.1 support COBOL 4.2?

2013-09-18 Thread Mike Schwab
Effective ?Jan 1?, 2014, Cobol 3 and 4 prices will be raised to match Cobol
5.


On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Rouse, Willie wro...@co.pg.md.us wrote:

 Hello All,

 I would like to know where to find what IBM products z/OS 2.1 supports.

 Respectfully,
 Willie C. Rouse



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Re: Does z/OS 2.1 support COBOL 4.2?

2013-09-18 Thread John P Kalinich
This web link has end of service dates for IBM products.

http://www-01.ibm.com/software/support/lifecycle/index_e.html

Regards,
John K

Willie Rouse of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List
IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu wrote on 09/18/2013 10:24:08 AM:

 I would like to know where to find what IBM products z/OS 2.1 supports.

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Re: Does z/OS 2.1 support COBOL 4.2?

2013-09-18 Thread Jan Vanbrabant
Re.   Effective ?Jan 1?, 2014, Cobol 3 and 4 prices will be raised to match
Cobol


True.

But going COBOL 5.1 may possibly be a serious migration/upgrade project.
Look at several COBOL 5.1  and/or PDSE threads earlier this month, all  the
consequence of the 5.1 executables having to reside in PDSEs, no longer in
PDSs.
PDS/E, Shared Dasd, and COBOL
V5https://listserv.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A1=ind1309L=ibm-main#59
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jan


On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.comwrote:

 Effective ?Jan 1?, 2014, Cobol 3 and 4 prices will be raised to match Cobol
 5.


 On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Rouse, Willie wro...@co.pg.md.us
 wrote:

  Hello All,
 
  I would like to know where to find what IBM products z/OS 2.1 supports.
 
  Respectfully,
  Willie C. Rouse
 
 

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