Re: VVDS points to non-existent catalog

2016-10-17 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2016-10-17 o 21:10, Sean Gleann pisze:

I've made a stupid mistake with one of my z/OS systems, and now I'm hoping
that someone can help me extricate myself..

I was in the process of moving a user catalog from one disk to another.

Following examples from documentation on the IBM web site...
Did an EXPORT TEMPORARY of the ucat to a 'flat' file,
followed by DELETE catname RECOVERY USERCATALOG,
and then a DEFINE of the catalog on it's new volume.
(All going well so far - I should know better)

The subsequent attempt at an IMPORT of the 'flat' file resulted in a JCL
error 'data set not found'.

If I use ISPF 3.4 to look at all the files on the disk involved, I can see
that the file does in fact exist.
If I try 'I' or 'S', or 'browse', etc, I get 'data set not catalogued'

The problem is that the flat file I created has a name that was aliased to
the catalog I've just deleted and redefined. (foot...gun...BANG)

The VVDS entry for the export file points to a catalog that - while it
exists - is empty.

I've tried numerous attempts at RECATALOG and DELETE NVR NOSCRATCH, but
nothing works because SMS can't find the data it needs to complete the task
I specify.

To add to the problem, the same catalog also had my SMS SCDS/ACDS aliased
there, among numerous other datasets necessary for IPL.

Yes, all very stupid, I know, and I believe I've learnt a very harsh lesson.
But if anyone has got any ideas, I'd love to hear them.




Sean,
Did you try to copy the flat file to another name?
IMHO it should be the simplest way to circumvent the problem:

//K10 EXEC PGM=IEBGENER
...
//SYSUT1  DD DSN=you.exported.ucat,DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=volser  
<-- no catalog involvement here!

//SYSUT2 DD DSN=SYS1.COPY.OF.EXP.UCAT,DISP=(,CATLG)...

then use import from the copy...

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Re: VVDS points to non-existent catalog

2016-10-17 Thread Sean Gleann
Dan... but your response gave me the required clue. I redefined the alias,
and lo&behold the dump file became 'findable' to ISPF.
Renamed it, ran the IMPORT job again (with necessary changes) and
everything is now back to normal

Job done!

Thanks Dan, and to all others who have responded.

Sean
(doing the 'Happy Sean' dance - a weird sight!)

On 17 October 2016 at 20:59, Sean Gleann  wrote:

> Dan - the alias has already gone (as a result of the 'export'?). If I try
> a generic ISPF list, specifying just the HLQ of the file name, I get 'No
> data set names found'
>
> Sean
>
> On 17 October 2016 at 20:50, Blake, Daniel J [CTR] <
> 00f1be92566d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
>> Having not seen this before, I think you will need to delete the alias,
>> so that the master is not searching that 'path' for the data set you are
>> renaming.  Then you should be able to rename and catalog it.
>>
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
>> Behalf Of Sean Gleann
>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:48 PM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: VVDS points to non-existent catalog
>>
>> Dan - yes, I tried that. I get " '(filename)' was not found in catalog. "
>> John
>>
>>
>> On 17 October 2016 at 20:37, Blake, Daniel J [CTR] <
>> 00f1be92566d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>>
>> > Did you press PF1 to see more information as to why the rename did not
>> > work?
>> >
>> > Thank You
>> >
>> >
>> > Dan Blake – Team Leader
>> >
>> >
>> > dbl...@fdic.gov
>> > FDIC ISC-3 O&M Service Delivery | Room B4072
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>> >
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
>> > On Behalf Of Sean Gleann
>> > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:35 PM
>> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> > Subject: Re: VVDS points to non-existent catalog
>> >
>> > Dan - no go, I'm afraid. The 'R' command results in the same 'data set
>> > not catalogued' message.
>> >
>> > John - yes, that is very much like one of my attempts, except the file
>> > involved is not a cluster
>> >
>> > Sean
>> >
>> > On 17 October 2016 at 20:20, John McKown
>> > 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Sean Gleann 
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I've made a stupid mistake with one of my z/OS systems, and now
>> > > > I'm
>> > > hoping
>> > > > that someone can help me extricate myself..
>> > > >
>> > > > I was in the process of moving a user catalog from one disk to
>> another.
>> > > >
>> > > > Following examples from documentation on the IBM web site...
>> > > > Did an EXPORT TEMPORARY of the ucat to a 'flat' file, followed by
>> > > > DELETE catname RECOVERY USERCATALOG, and then a DEFINE of the
>> > > > catalog on it's new volume.
>> > > > (All going well so far - I should know better)
>> > > >
>> > > > The subsequent attempt at an IMPORT of the 'flat' file resulted in
>> > > > a JCL error 'data set not found'.
>> > > >
>> > > > If I use ISPF 3.4 to look at all the files on the disk involved, I
>> > > > can
>> > > see
>> > > > that the file does in fact exist.
>> > > > If I try 'I' or 'S', or 'browse', etc, I get 'data set not
>> catalogued'
>> > > >
>> > > > The problem is that the flat file I created has a name that was
>> > > > aliased
>> > > to
>> > > > the catalog I've just deleted and redefined. (foot...gun...BANG)
>> > > >
>> > > > The VVDS entry for the export file points to a catalog that -
>> > > > while it exists - is empty.
>> > > >
>> > > > I've tried numerous attempts at RECATALOG

Re: VVDS points to non-existent catalog

2016-10-17 Thread Matthew Stitt
This is what I use:

//STEP0   EXEC PGM=IDCAMS 
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*   
//SYSUDUMP DD  SYSOUT=*   
//DD1  DD  DSN=MSTITT.UCAT.BKUP,DISP=OLD,VOL=SER=xx,UNIT=3390   
   
//SYSINDD  *  
  IMPORT INFILE(DD1) OUTDATASET(SYS1.ZOS1D.TEST.MCAT) -   
  OBJECTS(SYS1.ZOS1D.MCAT VOLUMES(H3MCAT)) -  
  INTOEMPTY - 
  ALIAS   
/*  

The ALIAS parameter will recreate the ALIAS entries if the EXPORT was done with 
the option to save them.

HTH

Matthew  

On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:59:22 +0100, Sean Gleann  wrote:

>Dan - the alias has already gone (as a result of the 'export'?). If I try a
>generic ISPF list, specifying just the HLQ of the file name, I get 'No data
>set names found'
>
>Sean
>
>On 17 October 2016 at 20:50, Blake, Daniel J [CTR] <
>00f1be92566d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
>> Having not seen this before, I think you will need to delete the alias, so
>> that the master is not searching that 'path' for the data set you are
>> renaming.  Then you should be able to rename and catalog it.
>>
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
>> Behalf Of Sean Gleann
>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:48 PM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: VVDS points to non-existent catalog
>>
>> Dan - yes, I tried that. I get " '(filename)' was not found in catalog. "
>> John
>>
>>
>> On 17 October 2016 at 20:37, Blake, Daniel J [CTR] <
>> 00f1be92566d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>>
>> > Did you press PF1 to see more information as to why the rename did not
>> > work?
>> >
>> > Thank You
>> >
>> >
>> > Dan Blake – Team Leader
>> >
>> >
>> > dbl...@fdic.gov
>> > FDIC ISC-3 O&M Service Delivery | Room B4072
>> > O: (703) 516-5497 | BB: (703) 314-0501 | M: (703) 946-2967
>> >
>> >
>> > Advanced Out of Office Notice:
>> >
>> > Telecommute: October 24-28, 2016.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
>> > On Behalf Of Sean Gleann
>> > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:35 PM
>> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> > Subject: Re: VVDS points to non-existent catalog
>> >
>> > Dan - no go, I'm afraid. The 'R' command results in the same 'data set
>> > not catalogued' message.
>> >
>> > John - yes, that is very much like one of my attempts, except the file
>> > involved is not a cluster
>> >
>> > Sean
>> >
>> > On 17 October 2016 at 20:20, John McKown
>> > 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Sean Gleann 
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I've made a stupid mistake with one of my z/OS systems, and now
>> > > > I'm
>> > > hoping
>> > > > that someone can help me extricate myself..
>> > > >
>> > > > I was in the process of moving a user catalog from one disk to
>> another.
>> > > >
>> > > > Following examples from documentation on the IBM web site...
>> > > > Did an EXPORT TEMPORARY of the ucat to a 'flat' file, followed by
>> > > > DELETE catname RECOVERY USERCATALOG, and then a DEFINE of the
>> > > > catalog on it's new volume.
>> > > > (All going well so far - I should know better)
>> > > >
>> > > > The subsequent attempt at an IMPORT of the 'flat' file resulted in
>> > > > a JCL error 'data set not found'.
>> > > >
>> > > > If I use ISPF 3.4 to look at all the files on the disk involved, I
>> > > > can
>> > > see
>> > > > that the file does in fact exist.
>> > > > If I try 'I' or 'S', or 'browse', etc, I get 'data set not
>> catalogued'
>> > > >
>> > > > The problem is that the flat file I created has a name that was
>> > 

Re: VVDS points to non-existent catalog

2016-10-17 Thread Sean Gleann
Dan - the alias has already gone (as a result of the 'export'?). If I try a
generic ISPF list, specifying just the HLQ of the file name, I get 'No data
set names found'

Sean

On 17 October 2016 at 20:50, Blake, Daniel J [CTR] <
00f1be92566d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> Having not seen this before, I think you will need to delete the alias, so
> that the master is not searching that 'path' for the data set you are
> renaming.  Then you should be able to rename and catalog it.
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Sean Gleann
> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:48 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: VVDS points to non-existent catalog
>
> Dan - yes, I tried that. I get " '(filename)' was not found in catalog. "
> John
>
>
> On 17 October 2016 at 20:37, Blake, Daniel J [CTR] <
> 00f1be92566d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> > Did you press PF1 to see more information as to why the rename did not
> > work?
> >
> > Thank You
> >
> >
> > Dan Blake – Team Leader
> >
> >
> > dbl...@fdic.gov
> > FDIC ISC-3 O&M Service Delivery | Room B4072
> > O: (703) 516-5497 | BB: (703) 314-0501 | M: (703) 946-2967
> >
> >
> > Advanced Out of Office Notice:
> >
> > Telecommute: October 24-28, 2016.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> > On Behalf Of Sean Gleann
> > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:35 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: VVDS points to non-existent catalog
> >
> > Dan - no go, I'm afraid. The 'R' command results in the same 'data set
> > not catalogued' message.
> >
> > John - yes, that is very much like one of my attempts, except the file
> > involved is not a cluster
> >
> > Sean
> >
> > On 17 October 2016 at 20:20, John McKown
> > 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Sean Gleann 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I've made a stupid mistake with one of my z/OS systems, and now
> > > > I'm
> > > hoping
> > > > that someone can help me extricate myself..
> > > >
> > > > I was in the process of moving a user catalog from one disk to
> another.
> > > >
> > > > Following examples from documentation on the IBM web site...
> > > > Did an EXPORT TEMPORARY of the ucat to a 'flat' file, followed by
> > > > DELETE catname RECOVERY USERCATALOG, and then a DEFINE of the
> > > > catalog on it's new volume.
> > > > (All going well so far - I should know better)
> > > >
> > > > The subsequent attempt at an IMPORT of the 'flat' file resulted in
> > > > a JCL error 'data set not found'.
> > > >
> > > > If I use ISPF 3.4 to look at all the files on the disk involved, I
> > > > can
> > > see
> > > > that the file does in fact exist.
> > > > If I try 'I' or 'S', or 'browse', etc, I get 'data set not
> catalogued'
> > > >
> > > > The problem is that the flat file I created has a name that was
> > > > aliased
> > > to
> > > > the catalog I've just deleted and redefined. (foot...gun...BANG)
> > > >
> > > > The VVDS entry for the export file points to a catalog that -
> > > > while it exists - is empty.
> > > >
> > > > I've tried numerous attempts at RECATALOG and DELETE NVR
> > > > NOSCRATCH, but nothing works because SMS can't find the data it
> > > > needs to complete the
> > > task
> > > > I specify.
> > > >
> > >
> > > ​You tried something like the below & it failed?
> > >
> > >
> > > //RECAT   JOB (H0I),'JOHN MCKOWN',
> > > // CLASS=Z,
> > > // MSGCLASS=X,
> > > // NOTIFY=&SYSUID
> > > //STEP010  EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
> > > //SYSPRINT DD   SYSOUT=*
> > > //SYSINDD   *
> > >  DEF CLUSTER(NAME(SYS1.OS141774.SCPPEENU) -
> > >  VOLUME(LIHTS1) -
> > >  RECATALOG ) -
> > >  CAT(CATALOG.ICF.VI12

Re: VVDS points to non-existent catalog

2016-10-17 Thread Sean Gleann
Dan - yes, I tried that. I get " '(filename)' was not found in catalog. "
John


On 17 October 2016 at 20:37, Blake, Daniel J [CTR] <
00f1be92566d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> Did you press PF1 to see more information as to why the rename did not
> work?
>
> Thank You
>
>
> Dan Blake – Team Leader
>
>
> dbl...@fdic.gov
> FDIC ISC-3 O&M Service Delivery | Room B4072
> O: (703) 516-5497 | BB: (703) 314-0501 | M: (703) 946-2967
>
>
> Advanced Out of Office Notice:
>
> Telecommute: October 24-28, 2016.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Sean Gleann
> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:35 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: VVDS points to non-existent catalog
>
> Dan - no go, I'm afraid. The 'R' command results in the same 'data set not
> catalogued' message.
>
> John - yes, that is very much like one of my attempts, except the file
> involved is not a cluster
>
> Sean
>
> On 17 October 2016 at 20:20, John McKown 
> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Sean Gleann 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I've made a stupid mistake with one of my z/OS systems, and now I'm
> > hoping
> > > that someone can help me extricate myself..
> > >
> > > I was in the process of moving a user catalog from one disk to another.
> > >
> > > Following examples from documentation on the IBM web site...
> > > Did an EXPORT TEMPORARY of the ucat to a 'flat' file, followed by
> > > DELETE catname RECOVERY USERCATALOG, and then a DEFINE of the
> > > catalog on it's new volume.
> > > (All going well so far - I should know better)
> > >
> > > The subsequent attempt at an IMPORT of the 'flat' file resulted in a
> > > JCL error 'data set not found'.
> > >
> > > If I use ISPF 3.4 to look at all the files on the disk involved, I
> > > can
> > see
> > > that the file does in fact exist.
> > > If I try 'I' or 'S', or 'browse', etc, I get 'data set not catalogued'
> > >
> > > The problem is that the flat file I created has a name that was
> > > aliased
> > to
> > > the catalog I've just deleted and redefined. (foot...gun...BANG)
> > >
> > > The VVDS entry for the export file points to a catalog that - while
> > > it exists - is empty.
> > >
> > > I've tried numerous attempts at RECATALOG and DELETE NVR NOSCRATCH,
> > > but nothing works because SMS can't find the data it needs to
> > > complete the
> > task
> > > I specify.
> > >
> >
> > ​You tried something like the below & it failed?
> >
> >
> > //RECAT   JOB (H0I),'JOHN MCKOWN',
> > // CLASS=Z,
> > // MSGCLASS=X,
> > // NOTIFY=&SYSUID
> > //STEP010  EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
> > //SYSPRINT DD   SYSOUT=*
> > //SYSINDD   *
> >  DEF CLUSTER(NAME(SYS1.OS141774.SCPPEENU) -
> >  VOLUME(LIHTS1) -
> >  RECATALOG ) -
> >  CAT(CATALOG.ICF.VI12CAT.MCAT)
> > /*
> > //
> > LIHTS1 DD DISP=OLD,UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=LIHTS1
> > /*EOF
> >
> > ​
> >
> >
> > >
> > > To add to the problem, the same catalog also had my SMS SCDS/ACDS
> > > aliased there, among numerous other datasets necessary for IPL.
> > >
> > > Yes, all very stupid, I know, and I believe I've learnt a very harsh
> > > lesson.
> > > But if anyone has got any ideas, I'd love to hear them.
> > >
> > > Sean
> > >
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Re: VVDS points to non-existent catalog

2016-10-17 Thread Blake, Daniel J [CTR]
Having not seen this before, I think you will need to delete the alias, so that 
the master is not searching that 'path' for the data set you are renaming.  
Then you should be able to rename and catalog it.  


Dan






-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Sean Gleann
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:48 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: VVDS points to non-existent catalog

Dan - yes, I tried that. I get " '(filename)' was not found in catalog. "
John


On 17 October 2016 at 20:37, Blake, Daniel J [CTR] < 
00f1be92566d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> Did you press PF1 to see more information as to why the rename did not 
> work?
>
> Thank You
>
>
> Dan Blake – Team Leader
>
>
> dbl...@fdic.gov
> FDIC ISC-3 O&M Service Delivery | Room B4072
> O: (703) 516-5497 | BB: (703) 314-0501 | M: (703) 946-2967
>
>
> Advanced Out of Office Notice:
>
> Telecommute: October 24-28, 2016.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Sean Gleann
> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:35 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: VVDS points to non-existent catalog
>
> Dan - no go, I'm afraid. The 'R' command results in the same 'data set 
> not catalogued' message.
>
> John - yes, that is very much like one of my attempts, except the file 
> involved is not a cluster
>
> Sean
>
> On 17 October 2016 at 20:20, John McKown 
> 
> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Sean Gleann 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I've made a stupid mistake with one of my z/OS systems, and now 
> > > I'm
> > hoping
> > > that someone can help me extricate myself..
> > >
> > > I was in the process of moving a user catalog from one disk to another.
> > >
> > > Following examples from documentation on the IBM web site...
> > > Did an EXPORT TEMPORARY of the ucat to a 'flat' file, followed by 
> > > DELETE catname RECOVERY USERCATALOG, and then a DEFINE of the 
> > > catalog on it's new volume.
> > > (All going well so far - I should know better)
> > >
> > > The subsequent attempt at an IMPORT of the 'flat' file resulted in 
> > > a JCL error 'data set not found'.
> > >
> > > If I use ISPF 3.4 to look at all the files on the disk involved, I 
> > > can
> > see
> > > that the file does in fact exist.
> > > If I try 'I' or 'S', or 'browse', etc, I get 'data set not catalogued'
> > >
> > > The problem is that the flat file I created has a name that was 
> > > aliased
> > to
> > > the catalog I've just deleted and redefined. (foot...gun...BANG)
> > >
> > > The VVDS entry for the export file points to a catalog that - 
> > > while it exists - is empty.
> > >
> > > I've tried numerous attempts at RECATALOG and DELETE NVR 
> > > NOSCRATCH, but nothing works because SMS can't find the data it 
> > > needs to complete the
> > task
> > > I specify.
> > >
> >
> > ​You tried something like the below & it failed?
> >
> >
> > //RECAT   JOB (H0I),'JOHN MCKOWN',
> > // CLASS=Z,
> > // MSGCLASS=X,
> > // NOTIFY=&SYSUID
> > //STEP010  EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
> > //SYSPRINT DD   SYSOUT=*
> > //SYSINDD   *
> >  DEF CLUSTER(NAME(SYS1.OS141774.SCPPEENU) -
> >  VOLUME(LIHTS1) -
> >  RECATALOG ) -
> >  CAT(CATALOG.ICF.VI12CAT.MCAT)
> > /*
> > //
> > LIHTS1 DD DISP=OLD,UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=LIHTS1
> > /*EOF
> >
> > ​
> >
> >
> > >
> > > To add to the problem, the same catalog also had my SMS SCDS/ACDS 
> > > aliased there, among numerous other datasets necessary for IPL.
> > >
> > > Yes, all very stupid, I know, and I believe I've learnt a very 
> > > harsh lesson.
> > > But if anyone has got any ideas, I'd love to hear them.
> > >
> > > Sean
> > >
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Re: VVDS points to non-existent catalog

2016-10-17 Thread Sean Gleann
Mark - Thanks - that idea flew a little way... The DEFINE went to RC0, but
ISPF still resolutely insists that the file does not exist.
Sean

On 17 October 2016 at 20:47, Sean Gleann  wrote:

> Dan - yes, I tried that. I get " '(filename)' was not found in catalog. "
> John
>
>
> On 17 October 2016 at 20:37, Blake, Daniel J [CTR] <
> 00f1be92566d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
>> Did you press PF1 to see more information as to why the rename did not
>> work?
>>
>> Thank You
>>
>>
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>>
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>> Behalf Of Sean Gleann
>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:35 PM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: VVDS points to non-existent catalog
>>
>> Dan - no go, I'm afraid. The 'R' command results in the same 'data set
>> not catalogued' message.
>>
>> John - yes, that is very much like one of my attempts, except the file
>> involved is not a cluster
>>
>> Sean
>>
>> On 17 October 2016 at 20:20, John McKown 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Sean Gleann 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > I've made a stupid mistake with one of my z/OS systems, and now I'm
>> > hoping
>> > > that someone can help me extricate myself..
>> > >
>> > > I was in the process of moving a user catalog from one disk to
>> another.
>> > >
>> > > Following examples from documentation on the IBM web site...
>> > > Did an EXPORT TEMPORARY of the ucat to a 'flat' file, followed by
>> > > DELETE catname RECOVERY USERCATALOG, and then a DEFINE of the
>> > > catalog on it's new volume.
>> > > (All going well so far - I should know better)
>> > >
>> > > The subsequent attempt at an IMPORT of the 'flat' file resulted in a
>> > > JCL error 'data set not found'.
>> > >
>> > > If I use ISPF 3.4 to look at all the files on the disk involved, I
>> > > can
>> > see
>> > > that the file does in fact exist.
>> > > If I try 'I' or 'S', or 'browse', etc, I get 'data set not catalogued'
>> > >
>> > > The problem is that the flat file I created has a name that was
>> > > aliased
>> > to
>> > > the catalog I've just deleted and redefined. (foot...gun...BANG)
>> > >
>> > > The VVDS entry for the export file points to a catalog that - while
>> > > it exists - is empty.
>> > >
>> > > I've tried numerous attempts at RECATALOG and DELETE NVR NOSCRATCH,
>> > > but nothing works because SMS can't find the data it needs to
>> > > complete the
>> > task
>> > > I specify.
>> > >
>> >
>> > ​You tried something like the below & it failed?
>> >
>> >
>> > //RECAT   JOB (H0I),'JOHN MCKOWN',
>> > // CLASS=Z,
>> > // MSGCLASS=X,
>> > // NOTIFY=&SYSUID
>> > //STEP010  EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
>> > //SYSPRINT DD   SYSOUT=*
>> > //SYSINDD   *
>> >  DEF CLUSTER(NAME(SYS1.OS141774.SCPPEENU) -
>> >  VOLUME(LIHTS1) -
>> >  RECATALOG ) -
>> >  CAT(CATALOG.ICF.VI12CAT.MCAT)
>> > /*
>> > //
>> > LIHTS1 DD DISP=OLD,UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=LIHTS1
>> > /*EOF
>> >
>> > ​
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > To add to the problem, the same catalog also had my SMS SCDS/ACDS
>> > > aliased there, among numerous other datasets necessary for IPL.
>> > >
>> > > Yes, all very stupid, I know, and I believe I've learnt a very harsh
>> > > lesson.
>> > > But if anyone has got any ideas, I'd love to hear them.
>> > >
>> > > Sean
>> > >
>> > > 
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Re: VVDS points to non-existent catalog

2016-10-17 Thread Blake, Daniel J [CTR]
Did you press PF1 to see more information as to why the rename did not work?

Thank You


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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Sean Gleann
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:35 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: VVDS points to non-existent catalog

Dan - no go, I'm afraid. The 'R' command results in the same 'data set not 
catalogued' message.

John - yes, that is very much like one of my attempts, except the file involved 
is not a cluster

Sean

On 17 October 2016 at 20:20, John McKown 
wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Sean Gleann 
> wrote:
>
> > I've made a stupid mistake with one of my z/OS systems, and now I'm
> hoping
> > that someone can help me extricate myself..
> >
> > I was in the process of moving a user catalog from one disk to another.
> >
> > Following examples from documentation on the IBM web site...
> > Did an EXPORT TEMPORARY of the ucat to a 'flat' file, followed by 
> > DELETE catname RECOVERY USERCATALOG, and then a DEFINE of the 
> > catalog on it's new volume.
> > (All going well so far - I should know better)
> >
> > The subsequent attempt at an IMPORT of the 'flat' file resulted in a 
> > JCL error 'data set not found'.
> >
> > If I use ISPF 3.4 to look at all the files on the disk involved, I 
> > can
> see
> > that the file does in fact exist.
> > If I try 'I' or 'S', or 'browse', etc, I get 'data set not catalogued'
> >
> > The problem is that the flat file I created has a name that was 
> > aliased
> to
> > the catalog I've just deleted and redefined. (foot...gun...BANG)
> >
> > The VVDS entry for the export file points to a catalog that - while 
> > it exists - is empty.
> >
> > I've tried numerous attempts at RECATALOG and DELETE NVR NOSCRATCH, 
> > but nothing works because SMS can't find the data it needs to 
> > complete the
> task
> > I specify.
> >
>
> ​You tried something like the below & it failed?
>
>
> //RECAT   JOB (H0I),'JOHN MCKOWN',
> // CLASS=Z,
> // MSGCLASS=X,
> // NOTIFY=&SYSUID
> //STEP010  EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
> //SYSPRINT DD   SYSOUT=*
> //SYSINDD   *
>  DEF CLUSTER(NAME(SYS1.OS141774.SCPPEENU) -
>  VOLUME(LIHTS1) -
>  RECATALOG ) -
>  CAT(CATALOG.ICF.VI12CAT.MCAT)
> /*
> //
> LIHTS1 DD DISP=OLD,UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=LIHTS1
> /*EOF
>
> ​
>
>
> >
> > To add to the problem, the same catalog also had my SMS SCDS/ACDS 
> > aliased there, among numerous other datasets necessary for IPL.
> >
> > Yes, all very stupid, I know, and I believe I've learnt a very harsh 
> > lesson.
> > But if anyone has got any ideas, I'd love to hear them.
> >
> > Sean
> >
> > 
> > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, 
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>
>
>
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>
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>
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Re: VVDS points to non-existent catalog

2016-10-17 Thread Sean Gleann
Dan - no go, I'm afraid. The 'R' command results in the same 'data set not
catalogued' message.

John - yes, that is very much like one of my attempts, except the file
involved is not a cluster

Sean

On 17 October 2016 at 20:20, John McKown 
wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Sean Gleann 
> wrote:
>
> > I've made a stupid mistake with one of my z/OS systems, and now I'm
> hoping
> > that someone can help me extricate myself..
> >
> > I was in the process of moving a user catalog from one disk to another.
> >
> > Following examples from documentation on the IBM web site...
> > Did an EXPORT TEMPORARY of the ucat to a 'flat' file,
> > followed by DELETE catname RECOVERY USERCATALOG,
> > and then a DEFINE of the catalog on it's new volume.
> > (All going well so far - I should know better)
> >
> > The subsequent attempt at an IMPORT of the 'flat' file resulted in a JCL
> > error 'data set not found'.
> >
> > If I use ISPF 3.4 to look at all the files on the disk involved, I can
> see
> > that the file does in fact exist.
> > If I try 'I' or 'S', or 'browse', etc, I get 'data set not catalogued'
> >
> > The problem is that the flat file I created has a name that was aliased
> to
> > the catalog I've just deleted and redefined. (foot...gun...BANG)
> >
> > The VVDS entry for the export file points to a catalog that - while it
> > exists - is empty.
> >
> > I've tried numerous attempts at RECATALOG and DELETE NVR NOSCRATCH, but
> > nothing works because SMS can't find the data it needs to complete the
> task
> > I specify.
> >
>
> ​You tried something like the below & it failed?
>
>
> //RECAT   JOB (H0I),'JOHN MCKOWN',
> // CLASS=Z,
> // MSGCLASS=X,
> // NOTIFY=&SYSUID
> //STEP010  EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
> //SYSPRINT DD   SYSOUT=*
> //SYSINDD   *
>  DEF CLUSTER(NAME(SYS1.OS141774.SCPPEENU) -
>  VOLUME(LIHTS1) -
>  RECATALOG ) -
>  CAT(CATALOG.ICF.VI12CAT.MCAT)
> /*
> //
> LIHTS1 DD DISP=OLD,UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=LIHTS1
> /*EOF
>
> ​
>
>
> >
> > To add to the problem, the same catalog also had my SMS SCDS/ACDS aliased
> > there, among numerous other datasets necessary for IPL.
> >
> > Yes, all very stupid, I know, and I believe I've learnt a very harsh
> > lesson.
> > But if anyone has got any ideas, I'd love to hear them.
> >
> > Sean
> >
> > --
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>
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>
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Re: VVDS points to non-existent catalog

2016-10-17 Thread Steely.Mark
You can also try to create the catalog empty. (Define UCAT) 

Then catalog the ds you need and you can perform the rename.

Thanks

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Of John McKown
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 2:20 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: VVDS points to non-existent catalog

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Sean Gleann  wrote:

> I've made a stupid mistake with one of my z/OS systems, and now I'm 
> hoping that someone can help me extricate myself..
>
> I was in the process of moving a user catalog from one disk to another.
>
> Following examples from documentation on the IBM web site...
> Did an EXPORT TEMPORARY of the ucat to a 'flat' file, followed by 
> DELETE catname RECOVERY USERCATALOG, and then a DEFINE of the catalog 
> on it's new volume.
> (All going well so far - I should know better)
>
> The subsequent attempt at an IMPORT of the 'flat' file resulted in a 
> JCL error 'data set not found'.
>
> If I use ISPF 3.4 to look at all the files on the disk involved, I can 
> see that the file does in fact exist.
> If I try 'I' or 'S', or 'browse', etc, I get 'data set not catalogued'
>
> The problem is that the flat file I created has a name that was 
> aliased to the catalog I've just deleted and redefined. 
> (foot...gun...BANG)
>
> The VVDS entry for the export file points to a catalog that - while it 
> exists - is empty.
>
> I've tried numerous attempts at RECATALOG and DELETE NVR NOSCRATCH, 
> but nothing works because SMS can't find the data it needs to complete 
> the task I specify.
>

​You tried something like the below & it failed?


//RECAT   JOB (H0I),'JOHN MCKOWN',
// CLASS=Z,
// MSGCLASS=X,
// NOTIFY=&SYSUID
//STEP010  EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
//SYSPRINT DD   SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD   *
 DEF CLUSTER(NAME(SYS1.OS141774.SCPPEENU) -
 VOLUME(LIHTS1) -
 RECATALOG ) -
 CAT(CATALOG.ICF.VI12CAT.MCAT)
/*
//
LIHTS1 DD DISP=OLD,UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=LIHTS1
/*EOF

​


>
> To add to the problem, the same catalog also had my SMS SCDS/ACDS 
> aliased there, among numerous other datasets necessary for IPL.
>
> Yes, all very stupid, I know, and I believe I've learnt a very harsh 
> lesson.
> But if anyone has got any ideas, I'd love to hear them.
>
> Sean
>
> --
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Re: VVDS points to non-existent catalog

2016-10-17 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Sean Gleann  wrote:

> I've made a stupid mistake with one of my z/OS systems, and now I'm hoping
> that someone can help me extricate myself..
>
> I was in the process of moving a user catalog from one disk to another.
>
> Following examples from documentation on the IBM web site...
> Did an EXPORT TEMPORARY of the ucat to a 'flat' file,
> followed by DELETE catname RECOVERY USERCATALOG,
> and then a DEFINE of the catalog on it's new volume.
> (All going well so far - I should know better)
>
> The subsequent attempt at an IMPORT of the 'flat' file resulted in a JCL
> error 'data set not found'.
>
> If I use ISPF 3.4 to look at all the files on the disk involved, I can see
> that the file does in fact exist.
> If I try 'I' or 'S', or 'browse', etc, I get 'data set not catalogued'
>
> The problem is that the flat file I created has a name that was aliased to
> the catalog I've just deleted and redefined. (foot...gun...BANG)
>
> The VVDS entry for the export file points to a catalog that - while it
> exists - is empty.
>
> I've tried numerous attempts at RECATALOG and DELETE NVR NOSCRATCH, but
> nothing works because SMS can't find the data it needs to complete the task
> I specify.
>

​You tried something like the below & it failed?


//RECAT   JOB (H0I),'JOHN MCKOWN',
// CLASS=Z,
// MSGCLASS=X,
// NOTIFY=&SYSUID
//STEP010  EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
//SYSPRINT DD   SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD   *
 DEF CLUSTER(NAME(SYS1.OS141774.SCPPEENU) -
 VOLUME(LIHTS1) -
 RECATALOG ) -
 CAT(CATALOG.ICF.VI12CAT.MCAT)
/*
//
LIHTS1 DD DISP=OLD,UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=LIHTS1
/*EOF

​


>
> To add to the problem, the same catalog also had my SMS SCDS/ACDS aliased
> there, among numerous other datasets necessary for IPL.
>
> Yes, all very stupid, I know, and I believe I've learnt a very harsh
> lesson.
> But if anyone has got any ideas, I'd love to hear them.
>
> Sean
>
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Re: VVDS points to non-existent catalog

2016-10-17 Thread Blake, Daniel J [CTR]
>If I use ISPF 3.4 to look at all the files on the disk involved, I can see 
>that the file does in fact exist.<
>The problem is that the flat file I created has a name that was aliased to the 
>catalog I've just deleted and redefined. (foot...gun...BANG)>


OK, you know where the file is and the volume it is on.  You might want to 
rename it to a HLQ that is not in the catalog you are moving, then catalog it  
then run you r import again.



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Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:10 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: VVDS points to non-existent catalog

I've made a stupid mistake with one of my z/OS systems, and now I'm hoping that 
someone can help me extricate myself..

I was in the process of moving a user catalog from one disk to another.

Following examples from documentation on the IBM web site...
Did an EXPORT TEMPORARY of the ucat to a 'flat' file, followed by DELETE 
catname RECOVERY USERCATALOG, and then a DEFINE of the catalog on it's new 
volume.
(All going well so far - I should know better)

The subsequent attempt at an IMPORT of the 'flat' file resulted in a JCL error 
'data set not found'.

If I use ISPF 3.4 to look at all the files on the disk involved, I can see that 
the file does in fact exist.
If I try 'I' or 'S', or 'browse', etc, I get 'data set not catalogued'

The problem is that the flat file I created has a name that was aliased to the 
catalog I've just deleted and redefined. (foot...gun...BANG)

The VVDS entry for the export file points to a catalog that - while it exists - 
is empty.

I've tried numerous attempts at RECATALOG and DELETE NVR NOSCRATCH, but nothing 
works because SMS can't find the data it needs to complete the task I specify.

To add to the problem, the same catalog also had my SMS SCDS/ACDS aliased 
there, among numerous other datasets necessary for IPL.

Yes, all very stupid, I know, and I believe I've learnt a very harsh lesson.
But if anyone has got any ideas, I'd love to hear them.

Sean

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