Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode?

2021-05-16 Thread Timothy Sipples
Shmuel Metz wrote: >I couldn't get any hits earlier than 1981. Yes, I stand corrected. The beta search form allows dates as early as January 1, 1976, but the earliest announcement letters in the system are from 1981. Coverage still looks spotty, but that doesn't surprise me, particularly for

Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode?

2021-05-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Timothy Sipples [sipp...@sg.ibm.com] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 1:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode? IBM currently provides access to all IBM

Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode?

2021-05-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
of Timothy Sipples [sipp...@sg.ibm.com] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 1:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode? IBM currently provides access to all IBM announcement letters starting from January 1, 1976, from this Web site: https://ibm.com/common/ssi

Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode?

2021-05-13 Thread Timothy Sipples
IBM currently provides access to all IBM announcement letters starting from January 1, 1976, from this Web site: https://ibm.com/common/ssi As a random example, at that site you can find IBM U.S. Announcement #285-045 dated February 12, 1985, and entitled "VM/XA Migration Aid Release 2

Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode?

2021-05-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
an Altmark [alan_altm...@us.ibm.com] Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 5:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode? On Wed, 12 May 2021 08:18:36 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: ><http://secure-web.cisco.com/129OMVqU6tz0moqx0drT

Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode?

2021-05-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wed, 12 May 2021 08:18:36 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > doesn't list an option on the FORMAT command to select a new format file > system.

Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode?

2021-05-12 Thread Gary Eheman
On Mon, 10 May 2021 22:35:50 -0500, Alan Altmark wrote: (snippage) > >z/VM 3.1 was the last release to support 370 mode virtual machines, including >CMS. z/VM V4 (all releases) tolerated virtual machines defined with MACHINE >370, but would not instantiate them. (This was done in case of

Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode?

2021-05-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
mu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Alan Altmark [alan_altm...@us.ibm.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 5:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode? On Tue,

Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode?

2021-05-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tue, 11 May 2021 12:49:47 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Thanks; I asked because I was editing >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMS_file_system and there was a footnote > referring to cuu addresses. I've added some text that I hope puts things in > context. There are other issues with that

Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode?

2021-05-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
CMS stop requiring S/370 mode? On Mon, 10 May 2021 12:56:42 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >CMS originally ran on a real S/360 or on a S/60 virtual machine under CP-67. >The CMS for VM/370 through VM/SP ran > on a virtual S/370. When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode and when did i

Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode?

2021-05-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Mon, 10 May 2021 12:56:42 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >CMS originally ran on a real S/360 or on a S/60 virtual machine under CP-67. >The CMS for VM/370 through VM/SP ran > on a virtual S/370. When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode and when did it > stop supporting S/370 mode (if it did)?

Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode?

2021-05-10 Thread Dale R. Smith
On Tue, 11 May 2021 01:47:45 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Thanks. Do you also know when CMS first supported XC mode as an option? > > >-- >Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz >http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 CMS Release 8, VM/ESA 1.1.1. -- Dale R. Smith

Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode?

2021-05-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
: Monday, May 10, 2021 9:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode? On Mon, 10 May 2021 12:56:42 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >CMS originally ran on a real S/360 or on a S/60 virtual machine under CP-67. >The CMS for VM/370 through VM/

Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode?

2021-05-10 Thread Dale R. Smith
On Mon, 10 May 2021 12:56:42 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >CMS originally ran on a real S/360 or on a S/60 virtual machine under CP-67. >The CMS for VM/370 through VM/SP ran on a virtual S/370. When did CMS stop >requiring S/370 mode and when did it stop supporting S/370 mode (if it did)? > >

Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode?

2021-05-10 Thread Steve Thompson
ehalf of > Steve Thompson [ste...@copper.net] > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 9:14 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode? > > I’m going to hazard a guess that it went away when base 370 I/O was dropped. > > Sent from my iPho

Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode?

2021-05-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
: Monday, May 10, 2021 9:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode? On Mon, 10 May 2021 13:35:35 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Well,VM/XA MA, VM/XA SF, VM/XA/SP and VM/ESA all used subchannel numbers and >couldn't run in S/370 mode, but supported

Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode?

2021-05-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 May 2021 13:35:35 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Well,VM/XA MA, VM/XA SF, VM/XA/SP and VM/ESA all used subchannel numbers and >couldn't run in S/370 mode, but supported S/370 mode virtual machines. >Somewhere around VM/ESA IBM defined a subset of ESA for optional use by CMS >(or was

Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode?

2021-05-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode? I’m going to hazard a guess that it went away when base 370 I/O was dropped. Sent from my iPhone — small keyboarf, fat fungrs, stupd spell manglr. Expct mistaks > On May 10, 2021, at 8:56 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > CMS o

Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode?

2021-05-10 Thread Steve Thompson
I’m going to hazard a guess that it went away when base 370 I/O was dropped. Sent from my iPhone — small keyboarf, fat fungrs, stupd spell manglr. Expct mistaks > On May 10, 2021, at 8:56 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > CMS originally ran on a real S/360 or on a S/60 virtual machine under