Re: Logoff vs. Force

2008-03-27 Thread Phil Smith III
"Wandschneider, Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Does anybody have a trick on how to LOGOFF disconnected users like >DISKACNT instead of using FORCE. Sometimes FORCE will cause a user to >hang and it requires the forcing user to have class A. I know that the >FORCE command can be change to anot

Re: z/VM - Lightweight specific purpose file system

2008-03-27 Thread Jon Nolting
With Windows Server standard edition, you would indeed pay for each Windows guest that ran on Intel virtualization including VMware, Xen, Virtual Server, or Hyper-V. If a customer licenses Windows Server Enterprise Edition (EE) to a host server, that license will support from 1-4 guest Windows

Re: z/VM - Lightweight specific purpose file system

2008-03-27 Thread David Boyes
> Is this really true??? One per *virtual*, not *real*, > machine? If I were two run two > copies of Windows on *one* PC, using e.g. VM-Ware, > I would be required to pay twice??? Depends on what version of Windows. Some versions have restrictions on where they can legally run, and there are limit

Re: z/VM - Lightweight specific purpose file system

2008-03-27 Thread Marcy Cortes
I think I remember hearing that's how it worked here for Windows and RedHat Linux too. Not sure about SuSE Linux since we don't run that on Intel. My memory is getting full though and I don't page nearly as well as VM so I could be mistaken! Marcy Cortes "This message may contain confidential

Re: z/VM - Lightweight specific purpose file system

2008-03-27 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
>Why would the Microsoft Licensing be "tricky"? >Expensive perhaps as you need >one license per virtual machine, but not tricky... Is this really true??? One per *virtual*, not *real*, machine? If I were two run two copies of Windows on *one* PC, using e.g. VM-Ware, I would be required to pay t

Re: CPOWNED Devices

2008-03-27 Thread Schuh, Richard
The Oracle or one of its agents has spoken. Thanks, John. Would marking the disk as draining in the config file prevent the loss of anything caused by the timing of the detection of the difference that you describe? Another question, would backing up only files that are at least partially conta

Re: CPOWNED Devices

2008-03-27 Thread John Franciscovich
>I've renamed spool volumes several times, four or more years ago, but a >force start was required. I don't recall whether it was VM/ESA or z/VM. >I would recommend a spool backup before attempting it. And if it is for >a production system, then schedule enough time to reload spool, if >necessary.

Re: CPOWNED Devices

2008-03-27 Thread Schuh, Richard
It might be easier to drain the volume, use SPFPACK to identify files that are wholly or partially contained on it, and vacate it using a combination of PURGE and SPXTAPE. If it is left drained and empty until after the IPL that gets the new volser, it might not require the FORCE start. The FORCE s

Re: CPOWNED Devices

2008-03-27 Thread Hodge, Robert L
I've renamed spool volumes several times, four or more years ago, but a force start was required. I don't recall whether it was VM/ESA or z/VM. I would recommend a spool backup before attempting it. And if it is for a production system, then schedule enough time to reload spool, if necessary.

Re: CPOWNED Devices

2008-03-27 Thread Schuh, Richard
Yes, but an experiment using those areas does not necessarily translate to renaming of a spool volume. It would seem reasonable that renaming would be OK, but it doesn't hurt to hear it from the Oracle. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM

Re: CPOWNED Devices

2008-03-27 Thread Bob Bates
I don't believe that will cause any problems. I've done it recently with the checkpoint and warm start areas (renamed the volume they are on) and was able to come up without a problem and find all my spool files. As long as the volumes remain in the same slots, you should be fine. Bob Bates En

Re: z/VM - Lightweight specific purpose file system

2008-03-27 Thread Dave Wade
From my experiments with GCC on VM/370 I would say that the 16megs of address space (i.e. real i370) is not enough space to run a "modern" linux in, so I would think XA/ESA type hardware would be needed Dave G4UGM Illegitimi Non Carborundum - Original Message - From: "Gentry, Step

CPOWNED Devices

2008-03-27 Thread Schuh, Richard
Will it kill spool if I 1. Reliable a spool disk and 2. Chnge the entry in the cpowned list, replacing the old volser with the new? Regards, Richard Schuh

Re: z/VM - Lightweight specific purpose file system

2008-03-27 Thread Gary M. Dennis
On 3/26/08 5:05 PM, "Dave Wade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The existing licenses already allow running in a virtual environment and > don't specify what chips etc that could be. They could change future > licenses, perhaps, but MS licenses don't work like Mainframe Licenses and it > would be har

Re: z/VM - Lightweight specific purpose file system

2008-03-27 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 5:51 PM, David Boyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Modern Linuxes don't run on p390-class machines anymore, I think. > > > Halfword immediate instructions maybe? > > > > With a proper support contract you could get the microcode that > > supports halfway immediate i

Re: z/VM - Lightweight specific purpose file system

2008-03-27 Thread David Boyes
> > Modern Linuxes don't run on p390-class machines anymore, I think. > > Halfword immediate instructions maybe? > > With a proper support contract you could get the microcode that > supports halfway immediate instructions. Didn't that require a p390e card or an IS, though? I don't think the MC

Re: z/VM - Lightweight specific purpose file system

2008-03-27 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Adam Thornton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Modern Linuxes don't run on p390-class machines anymore, I think. > Halfword immediate instructions maybe? With a proper support contract you could get the microcode that supports halfway immediate instructions. Early

Re: z/VM - Lightweight specific purpose file system

2008-03-27 Thread Adam Thornton
On Mar 27, 2008, at 8:33 AM, Gentry, Stephen wrote: Hmm, what about the i370 aka Bigfoot? Other than physically, how did the p370 differ from the s/370? To quote from a document/webpage attributed to you: Linux on the System/390 is an idea that has been being kicked around since Linux's earli

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-27 Thread Austin, Alyce (CIV)
Thanks to all for your replies! Alyce From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:25 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: MONWRITE files A VMARC file should be FIXED

Re: Mime attachments

2008-03-27 Thread Peter . Webb
I have a program that sits around waiting for e-mails to arrive in its reader queue, then strips out HTML attachments into separate files. Would that be of interest? Peter -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A. Harry Williams Sent:

Re: z/VM - Lightweight specific purpose file system

2008-03-27 Thread Gentry, Stephen
Hmm, what about the i370 aka Bigfoot? Other than physically, how did the p370 differ from the s/370? To quote from a document/webpage attributed to you: Linux on the System/390 is an idea that has been being kicked around since Linux's earliest days, but not much was done until 1998 or so. Linas V

Re: Mime attachments

2008-03-27 Thread David Boyes
> There are also Perl implementations of similar tools, which will run > with Neale's port of Perl5 for OpenVM. In fact, here's most of what you need, using the Perl MIME::Tools package. You'll need to add the code that writes the individual parts out to files, but the rest of it is a few lines of

Re: Mime attachments

2008-03-27 Thread David Boyes
ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/mpack/ munpack is a fairly simple C program that does what you want (eats a MIME-formatted input file with multiple MIME elements) and writes the individual elements to files. You'll need to tweak the filename handling (or use it in a BFS environment), but it should co

Re: Mime attachments

2008-03-27 Thread Mike Walter
What about Victor Strasser's "OFSMIME" package. The README file includes: -- OFSMime Package V2.1.1 2000-02-08 == E-mail is not just text anymore. The Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions (mime) standard allows information in just about any digital form

Re: Mime attachments

2008-03-27 Thread Kris Buelens
MAILIT with TEST option sends the result to your reader. That is, the mail body and the attachments. If that format suits you, an extra option would be easily added. Your phrasing seems to suggest you'd like to get two files: the mail body and the attachments. That would require a bit extra wor

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-27 Thread Kris Buelens
A VMARC file should be FIXED 80, (but V 80 may work as well). To be axact: PIPE < MONVIEW VMARC A | FBLOCK 80 00 | > NEWFILE VMARC A F 80 2008/3/27, Austin, Alyce (CIV) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi Berry and Mike, > > Your pipe commands appear to have worked. After issuing them this is > what I

Mime attachments

2008-03-27 Thread A. Harry Williams
I'm looking for a utility that would take an email file and create the files that are mime attachments on disk. There are several examples of the reverse on the VM downloads page (MAILIT, etc) or there is the SENDFILE, but there is nothing I can find that deals handling a file that has attachments