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On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Marcy Cortes
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Please check out apar VM6 if you are diving deep into ISFC. I'd
> feel better if you did :)
In a recent conversation I claimed that ISFC has always had stability
problems when building a mesh network. We've always be
On Wednesday, 08/27/2008 at 10:34 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have always thought that CP handles properly SPOOL and PAGE areas
starting on
> cylinder zero. It would be a shot on its own foot if CP would destroy
the VOLID
> and the allocation map. However, someone is stating that SPOOL an
On Wednesday, 08/27/2008 at 10:04 EDT, "John P. Baker"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For example, let's say that we create an *NOTIFY system service.
>
> A virtual machine, appropriately authorized is allowed to connect to the
> *NOTIFY service, and by sending properly constructed messages, regist
I have always thought that CP handles properly SPOOL and PAGE areas
starting on cylinder zero. It would be a shot on its own foot if CP would
destroy the VOLID and the allocation map. However, someone is stating that
SPOOL and PAGE MUST NOT be allocated on cylinder zero, I wonder if someone
can
Gary,
I suggest that your point about the server needing to know immediately about
a client logoff is a good argument for a system-supplied notification
service, similar to ENF on z/OS.
For example, let's say that we create an *NOTIFY system service.
A virtual machine, appropriately authorized i
If the LPARS are not all on one box, it is the case that there is one
charge based on the total number of engines. The same applies to running
as guests of VM. As long as you stay within the footprint of the machine
for which you bought the license, you can run multiple copies because
you have lice
If the VM stack and the linux stack were both connected to a VSWITCH,
would monitoring function in the physical switch see that clear text
data is being transfered from VM to linux?
/Tom Kern
Alan Altmark wrote:
> On Wednesday, 08/27/2008 at 06:20 EDT, Michael Coffin
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wednesday, 08/27/2008 at 06:20 EDT, Michael Coffin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh Drat. :(
>
> We have a mandate that ALL FTP must be secure FTP, and it's going to be
> enforced very (VERY) soon. We may have to continue doing the darned
> intermediate file method in order to use the CMS FTP
On Wednesday, 08/27/2008 at 06:11 EDT, Jack Woehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mark Post wrote:
> > He's already been appointed, but with the far more pedestrian title of
Sir
> Alan, Lord of the Protocols.
> >
> I thought it was Lord VOLDmort.
Oh, now THAT is going to cost you. One of us is a D
Oh Drat. :(
We have a mandate that ALL FTP must be secure FTP, and it's going to be
enforced very (VERY) soon. We may have to continue doing the darned
intermediate file method in order to use the CMS FTP client. :(
-Mike
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:
Thanks for the reply. Yours seems to be the best so far. I wanted to try and
figure the cost of setting up multiple z/OS machines in a fairly quick manner.
As I remember the old VM/BSEPP you could run as many operating systems as you
wanted under VM and be charged for only 1 copy of the oper
Mark Post wrote:
He's already been appointed, but with the far more pedestrian title of Sir
Alan, Lord of the Protocols.
I thought it was Lord VOLDmort.
--
Jack J. Woehr# "Self-delusion is
http://www.well.com/~jax # half the battle!"
http://www.softwoehr.com # - Zippy the Pinh
Well, you could bestow a different title on Chuckie or one of the other
alter egos. Just think, he would be able to accumulate 8 titles.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Walter
Too bad Token Rings died. Sir Alan, Lord of the Rings has a certain ring
to it. (sorry for the repeated puns, but not too much).
Mike Walter
"Mark Post" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System"
08/27/2008 04:50 PM
Please respond to
"The IBM z/VM Operating System"
...although he likes to throw his subtitle 'security weenie' at us once
in a while... :)
Mark Post wrote:
He's already been appointed, but with the far more pedestrian title of Sir
Alan, Lord of the Protocols.
Mark Post
--
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Phone: 414-491-6001
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Raymond,
Were it not for the fact that Sir Alan, Lord of the Protocols was
benighted on 21 Aug 2002, that would be an excellent suggestion.
Yet given the alternate, and apparently growing, list of personalities
perhaps one or more additional titles may be considered on z/VM's 40th
birthday in
>>> On 8/27/2008 at 5:45 PM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Raymond
Noal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Fellow Listers,
>
> Based on the accurate and authoritative evidence provided in this forwarded
> e-mail, I would like to recommend that Alan Altmark be granted the most
> honorable and auste
Fellow Listers,
Based on the accurate and authoritative evidence provided in this forwarded
e-mail, I would like to recommend that Alan Altmark be granted the most
honorable and austere membership to the Knights of the z/VM Roundtable and from
this day forward be recognized as "Sir MVP" (Multip
I was going to make a comment about Sybil, it seems you're all well on
your way... :)
Alan Altmark wrote:
On Wednesday, 08/27/2008 at 03:43 EDT, "Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Alan,
How many alter egos do you have. First Chuckie, and now Br'er Rabbit.
Seven, S!!! but we ha
On Wednesday, 08/27/2008 at 03:43 EDT, "Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Alan,
>
> How many alter egos do you have. First Chuckie, and now Br'er Rabbit.
Seven, S!!! but we have a funny feeling that the only way we know
there are seven is because there are actually eight of us.
Thanks Bill. I had already found the SYSTEM CONFIG file but they wanted
it changed without an IPL. I didn't know you could add it to the user
directory. Kris Buelens also gave me a command that partially worked
from MAINT; SET DATEFORMAT ISODATE SYSTEM. I had to issue SET DATEFORMAT
ISODATE, then S
Alan,
How many alter egos do you have. First Chuckie, and now Br'er Rabbit.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:37 AM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK
Alan,
Thanks. Especially for 5 through 9.
On 8/27/08 12:37 PM, "Alan Altmark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't understand why you want to use temporary connections.
I don't. The original idea was to have connections for each guest active all
the time **so long as the associated overhead wou
Jim,
This can be changed system wide in the SYSTEM CONFIG file -
(SYSTEM_DATEFORMAT)
or per user in the USER DIRECT file - (DATEFORMAT)
enter
q dateformat
User Dateformat = SHORTDATE (SYSDEFAULT)
Bill Munson
Brown Brothers Harriman
z/VM System Programmer
201-418-7588
President MVMUA
http:/
I can't speak to z/OS software charges, but for VSE, we pay for only one
license for multiple instances running under z/VM. And we pay the VSE
license for the total capacity of the machine.
I don't think you can say that VM is better than LPAR as a general
statement. In some cases VM definitel
On Wednesday, 08/27/2008 at 01:32 EDT, Mark Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You'll have to go back and look, but I believe that was a statement of
> direction, not something that will actually be delivered with the GA of
z/VM
> 5.4.
z/VM 5.4 will enable you to use the z/VM-mode LPARs that yo
Save the nice restaurants and fine wines for when someone from z/VM
development comes to town! :)
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent: August 27, 2008 13:37
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Lpar Vs VM
On W
On Wednesday, 08/27/2008 at 12:09 EDT, "Gary M. Dennis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have included below item 6 from the thread origin and a snippet from
John
> Baker's response.
>
> Maybe I should have placed more emphasis on item 6. The server machine
is
> going to be updating the buffer ar
On Wednesday, 08/27/2008 at 01:12 EDT, "Huegel, Thomas"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When I was looking at the announcement letter for z/VM 5.4 I seem to
remember
> something about (on a z10) being able to mix CP's and IFL's in the same
LPAR
> and have z/VM dispatch LINUX machines on the IFL's
>>> On 8/27/2008 at 12:23 PM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Huegel, Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When I was looking at the announcement letter for z/VM 5.4 I seem to remember
> something about (on a z10) being able to mix CP's and IFL's in the same LPAR
> and have z/VM dispatch LINUX
Thanks John. I tried the SET DATEFORMAT ISODATE SYSTEM from the userid
MAINT. It took the command but didn't change the values when I did a
QUERY DATEFORMAT. I was able to change it by doing the following on
MAINT:
SET DATEFORMAT ISODATE
SET DATEFORMAT SYSDEFAULT
They now have the correct format f
It's not wishful interpretation, but you need a z10 for the capability.
Huegel, Thomas wrote:
When I was looking at the announcement letter for z/VM 5.4 I seem to remember something about (on a z10) being able to mix CP's and IFL's in the same LPAR and have z/VM dispatch LINUX machines on the IFL
When I was looking at the announcement letter for z/VM 5.4 I seem to remember
something about (on a z10) being able to mix CP's and IFL's in the same LPAR
and have z/VM dispatch LINUX machines on the IFL's Or maybe that was
'wishfull interpretation' on my part. Anyway (if true) I wonder if t
Please check out apar VM6 if you are diving deep into ISFC. I'd
feel better if you did :)
Marcy
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Thanks Kris, I will keep that in mind, they only have a few in-house
execs and only use the VM system for multiple VSEs and storing JCL and
source code in CMS.
Jim Dodds
Systems Programmer
Kentucky State University
400 East Main Street
Frankfort, Ky 40601
502 597 6114
-Original Message-
>Thanks Steve that will work as a temp solution. I found where I need to
>put this in the VM system config file SYSTEM_DATEformat ISOdate
>
>But to get this to work system wide I will need to do an IPL or is can I
>enter a command to make system wide?
A user with Class B privilege can issue SET
Thanks for the response on the IUCV questions.
I have included below item 6 from the thread origin and a snippet from John
Baker's response.
Maybe I should have placed more emphasis on item 6. The server machine is
going to be updating the buffer areas in all the connected client machines.
There
Which is why I use the CMS DEFAULTS command to change the date format in
RDRLIST and FILELIST.
defaults set filelist isodate
defaults set rdrlist isodate
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kris Buelens
Sent: Wednesday, August 27,
>>> On 8/27/2008 at 11:30 AM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Ward, Mike S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all, I have a question. When we set up and lpar with an operating
> environment such as MVS, we get software charges for both lpars from
> IBM. Third party vendors don't seem to care if
Beware for a global, system wide, change: if you have execs that issue
commands that return a date, they will get a new layout. To name
some:
- LISTFILE
- CP Q TIME
- CP Q RDR ALL (distribution code is no returned anymore with
FULL- or ISODATE)
- CP Q CPLEVEL
Results of affected execs become
Hello all, I have a question. When we set up and lpar with an operating
environment such as MVS, we get software charges for both lpars from
IBM. Third party vendors don't seem to care if it's on the same machine
(Most don't) since they charge for the full mip rate of the machine
regardless of whet
I'm pretty sure that SET DATEFORMAT whatever was valid back in ESA 2.4.
Check the HELP file for the various options.
Jim
Doug Breneman wrote:
--1__=0ABBFE21DFC18D638f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBFE21DFC18D63
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
You
Thanks Steve that will work as a temp solution. I found where I need to
put this in the VM system config file SYSTEM_DATEformat ISOdate
But to get this to work system wide I will need to do an IPL or is can I
enter a command to make system wide?
Jim Dodds
Systems Programmer
Kentucky St
Better yetset dateformat FULLdate
munson
"Imler, Steven J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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08/27/2008 10:51 AM
Please respond to
The IBM z/VM Operating System
To
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
cc
Subject
Re: CMS file list date
Issue ? SET DATEFORMAT ISO
FILELIST (FULLDATE (or ISODATE) should work on 4.4
LISTFILE (FULLDATE (or ISODATE) as well...
Scott Rohling
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Dodds, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a customer that is on z/VM 4.4 and the CMS file dates shown in a
> filelist have only 2 digit years.
Have they tried the filelist option fulldate or isodate? I'm not sure if
they were valid on 4.4.
Mike Atkison
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dodds, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:46 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: CMS file list da
Issue ... SET DATEFORMAT ISO
JR (Steven) Imler
CA
Senior Sustaining Engineer
Tel: +1 703 708 3479
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dodds, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:46 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subjec
You can use SET DATEFORMAT to specify what date format you want to use for
a userid or you can specify which date format you want to use for just
LISTFILE.
This will set a date format for your virtual machine.
SET DATEFORMAT
.-USER--.
>>--Set--DATEFormat-
I have a customer that is on z/VM 4.4 and the CMS file dates shown in a
filelist have only 2 digit years. They would like to see the 4 digit
years. I am on VM 2.4 and ours displays a 4 digit year. I know both of
these products are out of service. Would anyone know how to correct
this?
Jim Dodd
> I have a customer that is on z/VM 4.4 and the CMS file dates shown
> in a filelist have only 2 digit years. They would like to see the
> 4 digit years. I am on VM 2.4 and ours displays a 4 digit year. I
> know both of these products are out of service. Would anyone know
> how to correct this?
Hi Kris,
Thank you very much. This helped me a lot.
Best regards,
Florian
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:08:52 +0200, Kris Buelens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>A CRR declares many resources:
> q resource user vmservr
> Resource: VMSYSRType: Local Owning Userid: VMSERVR
> Service: 30F0F2F9 Ty
This morning when I reconnected to the system, an old exec that gets run
at reconnect time, announced :
It's Mike Cowlishaw's Birthday!
The old exec is a sample exec written in the very early days of REXX
while it was still IBM IUO by Mike Cowlishaw to demo what REXX could
do. It was called
A CRR declares many resources:
q resource user vmservr
Resource: VMSYSRType: Local Owning Userid: VMSERVR
Service: 30F0F2F9 Type: Local Owning Userid: VMSERVR
Service: 06F2 Type: System Owning Userid: VMSERVR
Service: 30F0F2F7 Type: Local Owning Userid: VMSERVR
Resource:
Dear all,
Last month I was asking to establish a ISCF connection between two z/VM
systems. I got the information that the resources of the SFS have to be
unique and that VMSYSx filepools are local.
I have now the necessary CTCs and wanted to activate the IS-links. Howeve
r I
saw with "q resourc
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